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season 5 of white collar is very pleasing to me because i love conman neal caffrey but it really makes me dislike peter. he tells every criminal he comes across that all they’ll ever be is a criminal, but also tells neal that he corrupted the system by getting him out of prison on a bribe but was your system ever really working if you keep putting people through it to punish them for their crimes but then also don’t think they’ll ever change? he’s lowkey turned into kramer this season
#peter has the balls to say that neal stole the coins cause he’s a thief#not because he wanted to save peter#and i’ve said this before but neal just doesn’t get angry#and so there’s no goddamn catharsis#so i just keep getting angrier and angrier#every time peter declares that neal’s a criminal and that’s all he’ll ever be#cause i do think neal goes back to pulling cons#because peter treats him like a criminal again#when neal had earned a right to be free before he ran to the island on peter’s signal#to not have to spend his life tied to the bureau just because he’s good at what he does#neal got peter the promotion because of how well they worked together#he deserved good things#and with no diana in this season it felt like he was working in enemy territory#i love him i hope he’s having fun in paris i hope mozzie joined him#white collar#neal caffrey#peter burke
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So confused where fandom/fic writers got this interpretation that Miles does stupid shit that doesn’t make sense or barely works out in the end or puts his friends in unnecessary danger all the time. Like in both movies the others simply underestimate him and don’t understand what Miles is doing cause he thinks like Miles, not like your everyday Spiderman. He uses his Venom Strike to throw Kingpin in the ITSV movie and literally saves Gwen and Peter because they went into battle less than ready. Then had the entire plan to lure the Spiders in ATSV, yet I keep seeing him written like he doesn’t think or gets his friends in trouble even when he understands the danger. Most of the time his different thinking has helped or led people to fix personal issues.
The first movie alone pretty much sets in stone that the exact opposite of what he wants is others to get hurt by his actions, inactions or the actions of others and trying to live up to that belief and the expectations it carries. Across the Spider-verse hammers it home with how he constantly tries to save people because that’s what he should do, rather than listen to some theory that is clearly not absolute at best and outright wrong at worst. Every fic has him being the one to cause issues and not fix them when his planning and actions literally helped save Gayatri and her father. (c’mon we know the glitching was the spot)
Yeah, I get making him stubborn or strong willed cause he doesn’t listen all the time but usually it’s for a good and valid reason, if he listened every time he was told not to, guess how many of our beloved characters would be dead?
#cause all the times he acts rash are because hes being lied to misled or not treated like he is gonna have to be spiderman and is spiderman#first gwen with the entirety of spider society and why he couldn't come then talked over by Miguel and blamed for what he couldn't possibly#control not to mention the shoddy nature of miguels entire theory#cause if it was true 1610b earth 42 and mayday wouldnt have happened or would collaspe casue miles was never supposed to be spiderman#so many things would be going wrong if it was true#miles is pretty level headed most of the time and quick he outsmarted the guy who made the trans dimension tech for crying outloaud#he simply doesnt tell his exact plan he does it and its up to others to figure it out cause why would he narrate his plan to them#he litteraly tells miguel he just doesnt know what miles is doing in response to miguel thinking hes just running blindly even Peter & Gwen#are suprised cause the whole point of miles story is others thinking they know it and underestimating him#him being dumb and rash and naive in fics just isnt a good source of conflict especially if its post ATSV and BTSV#he is constantly stating he doesnt need to prove himself as spiderman to anyone but himself soemthing he realizes in ITSVs climax#he already knows he spiderman and be damned if hes gonna try to prove it to someone who wanted his dad to die like yall treat him like he#learned nothing Miguel made more issues by not listening to Miles about the spot like he wants to wait for him to get stronger so Miles dad#will die think about that and say Miles is rash and doesn;t think again he isnt inexperienced or naive anymore save that for Pavitr who jinx#himself and has only been spiderman for 6 goddamn months#miles morales#across the spiderverse#atsv#spiderverse#atsv spoilers#spiderman#mini rant over im actually going to sleep now
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Okay but like Peter Parker reincarnated as dick grayson angst
#peter parker#dick grayson#nightwing#spiderman#Me in my little head listening to music and suddenly it auto fills a gap that wasn't even there and now I can't stop thinking about it#batman#story prompt#fic prompt#Fic idea#The angst would be juiciest if he didn't keep his powers#So like he's always pushing his body further to try and gain back just an inch more of what he had#Because even as spiderman he was too slow or weak to save everyone and he never realised just how dependent he was on his spider sense#At first he's living the dream with alive loving parents and acrobatics and travelling the world in peace#He's crushed when they die. In a way spiderman could have so easily prevented with his webs. He had to watch AGAIN. He's furious#With his experience from his previous life he latches onto batman and creates Robin from that. He balances school and hero life once more.#He becomes night wing when Gotham grows too dark and stifling. He needs out. To be a solo hero again. He hates that he has to leave batman#But at least he's alive to be mad.#When he gets siblings wow new experience!! Batman parenting normal kids is Such a bad idea but he'd die for them!#Then everything cascades and batman goes from iron man/daredevil to punisher/black widow and Jason doesn't want to listen#Even tho he died too and it hurt and b had a bio kid and he's batman until he isn't and he misses aunt may and still he loves being alive#Because spiderman was killed#And nightwing is older than he will ever be
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All the younger spideys keep finding ways to annoy superior cuz they know he isn't going to do anything except verbally react in a way that's so old man core that it is funny to them. They frequently prank that loser and he genuinely thinks hes just struggling to keep up with Kids These Days </3 but also if they request him to do something he will try even if hes suspicious of it (because he has a soft spot for kids and if he doesn't they'll go running to Peter slandering him) and everytime it ends with him being hit with a Delicious Pie to the face
#ESPECIALLY miles gwen pav and peni and margo because i know superior would support them all the way#hobie does it the best but superior still only at most yells at him to GET OUTT because again he is trying so hard#this probably makes no sense but see my beautiful mind:#superior is some old man hes trying his very best to be nicer and wants to help whoever he can to make up for his past.#plus he has a soft spot for kids especially cuz he wants to give them the support he never got#thats canon btw and also he wants people to like him (canon also) and he knows he has to work with these people#so the younger spideys can just go up to him and prank him sillystyle and he will always react so genuinely its so funny...#again view my beautiful mind: miles tells him to put his hand on the table and hes like . ok morales do u need my help or...#and then miles puts a cup full of water on his hand and hes trapped there or the water spills on all his tech#(very fixable situation but its for the gaffs the goofs.. and also stick it to the old people)#one time hobie tells him to spell icup and he goes im not falling for that. next hour hobie tells peter superior creased miles' shoes and#[the wolves get me]#superior spider man#superior spiderman#elliot tolliver#synth speaks#to be very clear superior would 100% be on miles' side he believes strongly in always trying to save people and also deciding ur own destiny
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when i die, don't look for me in the sunsets...
sirius — look for me in the sky. i know it's a cliché, but there is where you will see me. am i scared of death? no, of course not. i am endless, i am invincible, i am bright; i am the brightest star, actually. i will reach out for you, and i will light up your way. you will find me.
james — look for me in the sky. you will see the sun, bright and scorching. i will warm you up when you will grieve for me, and i will bring closure to you. i might be gone, but i haven't left you alone. i am here, still. and i always will be.
remus — look for me in the river. see the stones, smooth and cold. look at the water, running. its way is freedom, isn't it? it's all ended; it's over. however, that does not mean you can't go on. fall in love. live. without me. we'll meet again soon.
peter — look for me somewhere quiet. there is beauty in quiet, although some people can't see it. it's peaceful. come sit with me, won't you? death is imminent, of course; however, why won't we make the most of life?
dorcas — look for me in my lover's arms. i have been deceived so many times, death does not scare me anymore; it's the last bit of closure i have. look for me in the little things, where i hide. many do not see me, yet i am here. you just have to look for me.
lily — look for me at home. everything has a start and an ending, and i am always coming back. look for me where i can be myself, where everything is warm. look for me at home. maybe, one day, it will be ours to share.
mary — look for me somewhere bright. the sky, maybe. or somewhere colourful. it helps me forget how alone i am, really. i forget about the loneliness that aches in me. someday, i wish you'd search for me. for now, grieve.
marlene — look for me somewhere loud. it helps me forget. scared of death? of course, so i don't think of it. i let myself be washed away with adrenaline, pumped through my brain, and with a moment of pleasure. life is short, after all.
#aside this being an insight in the kind of people they are i think it is also an insight of the way they perceive death#sirius thinks he's for the most part invincible and endless and therefore no one can kill him#james knows he will die and he made peace with it however he does not want people to feel alone just because he's gone#remus knows people will grieve over him and he doesn't want them to. he wants them to continue living without them#peter is a bit scared of death and he would like to live to the fullest so when he doesn't die he can't regret not living#dorcas is not afraid of death and willing to welcome it if it means saving someone else from it#lily believes death and life are a circle that end/begin home and so it's her way of coming back to watch over her loved ones#mary knows she will be left alone in the end and she wants to forget it and shelter herself from grief and pain and so she tries forgetting#marlene is scared of death but would never admit it. so she keeps her mind busy. she knows she'll die but she's scared of the idea of death#anyways this got waaay too long in the tags sorry#sirius black#james potter#remus lupin#peter pettigrew#dorcas meadowes#lily evans#mary macdonald#marlene mckinnon#my writing
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me going into marvel's spider-man 2 expecting to be unwell levels of horny for venom, only to come out of it attracted to harry osborn:
#i've never liked harry in past iterations because he's always depicted as an entitled brat#sure. he's sympathetic when you consider his dad. but they sort of just pack on the incel with him in the animated shows and live actions#vs seeing a harry osborn that's not only sympathetic bc of his fraught relationship with norman but ALSO#bc he has every reason to feel betrayed in this game#he's forced into a legacy he doesn't want to pursue by a father who is way more canonically loving than usual but still dangerous#he loses his mother who is his idol at a young age to a terminal illness that he then inherits and has to accept he won't recover from#except he might. because this miracle alien in his body could save him#and yet he gives it up to peter as he lay dying because he cannot lose his best friend#only now it looks like said best friend wants to keep that miracle from him because it makes him feel more powerful. and he tries to be#understanding but his body is FAILING him. he needs venom but venom doesn't want him#but even when he gets venom back he still is sound enough to realize the carnage (ha) venom leaves in his wake and begs peter to KILL him#because he's a dead man either way#and he won't hurt the people he loves. and he won't hurt others#not like norman#because he's not norman. he's his mother#mjspeaks#anyway.#i made this post bc i'm writing harry again and i love him
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just got home from watching tasm 2 in a theater for the first time in my life and everything is hitting me in layers
#i have an inside joke with that spider-man and he remembered it and MADE it the inside joke#the crowd laughed the most when peter said ‘god save the queen’ which was so random but go off i guess#the kendrick/drake debates in the hallway after the end credits#the last line in the movie being ‘there’s no place like home’ and andrew’s spidey getting shelved until No Way Home#the way that movie literally has at least eight different genres in it#that spider-man gave me a double high-five because he wanted to#i’ve met andrew garfield#what the fuck#how this entire movie is about time and the passing of it#how andrew’s spidey’s never been a natural all he does is try try try#gone gone gone#‘do i have to lose you too?????’#how this entire film runs purely on hope#i could go on forever but i’m tired of writing tags#that was a canon event for me#seeing that on a big screen with a full audience was a canon event#and i might never recover#i love you andrew garfield#thank you for your service#the end
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#been thinking if they did kill off somebody#would tend to agree with the general consensus that it would (probably?) be bobby#the big bobby storyline coming and the bts of peter…. 😬#i would be very surprised if they killed buck after just getting done with the bi buck arc#feels a little too close to the bury your gays trope rn lol#i’ve always maintained that the will likely saves eddie from being killed off#because i just don’t see this show wanting to actually go through with giving christopher to buck#unless they decide to undo the will entirely (which is possible given some of the bts we’ve seen as of late but prob not likely)#i trust kenny is correct in his assertion that madney is post-wedding bliss so they’re probably fine#i don’t see them killing off hen after doing this mara storyline#and they’re not gonna write off angela bassett a second sooner than they have to lmao#tommy feels… possible? not super likely given the same reason as buck but he’s not a main so who knows#marisol straight up doesn’t matter enough to be considered lmao#doubt anyone at dispatch is involved either#so that being said… bobby feels like the most likely choice#with eddie as a slight possibility#and maybe tommy if they aren’t going mcd (god please no)#anyway#just had some thoughts given the new episode title#i hope no one is killed but with the network move and tim being back… it feels more real than it has in a while
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Thank you to the state of Ohio and English record producer Mickie Most for giving me a wonderful eclipse day, yesterday 🙏
#maumee ohio thank you your dr pepper was good#seeing the eclipse was sOOOO COOL. SO COOL. I LOVE ASTRONOMICAL EVENTS I LOVE SPACE ROCKS.#brought the animals with me of course because i always bring them with me to ohio#I WANTED THEM TO SEE IT TOO!!!!!!#my mom and i went to an antique store as well and gOSH THE HAUL WAS GOOD!!!#got a couple of herman's hermits albums because Mickie Most Moment (thanks peter noone for talking about him in your shows)#and ANIMALS!!! OHHHH WHENEVER I FIND ANIMALS I CRY.#i didn't have the 'bury my body' ep yet or the '73 'best of the animals' album yet!!!!!!!!#love how barry doesn't play on a single one of those songs on the larger album b u t he's on the front picture 😔🙏#and i found..... 'take it easy/i'm crying'....... ooohhhh PRICE-BURDON HELP ME#i had to snatch it... i'm going to give it to my friend in england!!! 😭🙏 since i have two copies already aaa......#i also found a copy of 'o lucky man!' and i was sooo tempted b u t again#i own two copies already so ..... i left it so someone else can enjoy alan for the first time 😭😭😭😭💞 ALAN PRICE SAVED MY LIFE.#...going to listen to 'o lucky man!' as i finish his birthday drawing eeee......#almost got a donovan album too b u t all of the donovan albums i've been finidng recently are soooo expensive 😭😭 maybe later...#saving up for london part 2 and magazines.... also a convention next month#anyway. THANK YOU MICKIE MOST.#the seviper card too eeeee one of my favorite pokémon#FOUND A SHINY WIMPOD IN TOLEDO HASHTAG WIN#the animals#eclipse 2024#herman's hermits#things i said today
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I could've been insane in an interesting way at least but noo, I just think about a stupid guy so much that I lose my mind, how fucking stupid is that
#I didn't mean that. he's not stupid. some of the ones before him though.. yeah#but like why. whyyyy#'how have you been?' 'oh not great I'm mentally ill in a way that makes me get so obsessed with men that everything else stops existing so#I'm actually not even a person right now I'm just a thing that's in love with John Larroquette :) '#also I absolutely know why that started and that makes it so much worse!! haha my parents ignored me and were mean to me so I had to#fixate on fictional characters to get through my childhood haha that's fun I'm so normal :)#at least now I'm not hiding under my blanket crying and praying that [random guy I was obsessed with as a child] will come save me so#that's something I guess#(no actually it's just as bad. and I'm a whole fucking adult. why.)#also I'm now remembering random shit like that time I followed around a man in his 30s at a wedding when I was 10 because he was pretty and#my mother didn't want to deal with me. so. time to keep staring at this man I guess! his name was Peter lol why do I remember that#or the less funny things#seriously wish I was exaggerating when I say I get obsessed. oh it's not an exaggeration. I mean that literally.#personal
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Stiles Stilinski is my favorite/comfort character, which means that I have a deeply desire to ship him with everyone, wish pain and suffering upon himself and an unresolved need to read 'Dead Stiles Stilinski' fics.
I need more angst in my life. I need him to suffer
#but also I need more what if fics with Stiles dying in many situations. like why there's no fic where he's the third virgin sacrifice????#what if stiles died after getting kidnapped by gerwhateverhisname?? like maybe he tried to do something to save Erica and Boyd that got him#killed or just the events took a darker turn than canon#stiles dying in all those instances where a gun has been pointed at his face#THE NOGITSUNE MAN. Stiles getting affected by the bite Scott gave his double and dying because of it??? Stiles actually dying instead of#losing concussions after they got the nogitsune??? Stiles not having a divine move and actually following with the suicide route????#What If the Nogitsune possessed Allison and is Stiles the one who dies when they go rescue Lydia??? That idea is living rent free in my#mind not gonna lie. I could see Stiles spending time with mr Argent trying to understand why he was able to hurt an Oni#Imagine Stiles stealing Chris's gun (the one he used back then) with only a few bullets in it and a silver knife and when the bullets run#off he stabs the last oni and that's when it hits him. is silver.#ANYWAY the idea was that.therr's no enough dead Stiles Stilinski on AO3 !#and I wanr more#teen wolf stiles#teen wolf#stiles stilinski#all I want for Christmas is more angst and rare ship fics with this boy#PETER EITHER FORCING THE BITE ON STILE OR HIM ACCEPTING ONLY FOR IT TO NOT TAKE???? WHERE'S THAT.FIC AT HUH?????#just... the showdown is over peter is dead and derek is the alpha. everything nice and all until stiles... just falls on the ground.#the argents and jackson didn't need to be werewolves to tell that Stiles was hurt and bleeding but no one beside Derek knew why the blood#was turning black. anc Chris but how do you tell a bunch of kids that one of tgem was dying????#ughhhh my heart man. Derek.offering to mercy kill Stiles??? omg Stiles being like 'Dad. I can't die I can't what about dad?' like he would#ve so worried about him!!! because if Claudia dying broke him? then Stiles dying too would kill the sheriff#so much angst potential yet nothing. unbelievable
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For the questions for fic writers, 49 and 50 please?
49. What are you currently working on? Share a few lines if you’re up for it!
I've been bouncing back and forth between the last chapter of toy rosaries and the next chapter of nhthcth. Here's a few lines of toy rosaries:
Not two seconds later, they notice him gawping down at them like a fool. The man in the mask freezes. Claire jabs a finger at him like she’s tattling to the recess monitor.
“He says this guy kidnapped a kid and we need him to tell us where he is.”
Oh, so there’s where he kept the Devil. He hadn’t felt it in some time. But it’s right there, next to the pit in his chest. It seems comfortable as it finds its way up his pulse.
“I’ve got a pair of pliers,” says Jack, jerking his head back from where he came. “If that’ll help.”
50. Answer any question of your choice, or talk about anything you want to talk about!
Let's do this one: 17. What highly specific AU do you want to read or write even though you might be the only person to appreciate it?
Okay so I have one for TMA and one for Marvel.
TMA: Danny, Jon, and Gerry Buzzfeed Unsolved AU. Jon runs into Agnes Montague while at Oxford, and it changes things. He goes on the run from the Web, picks up an amnesiac man he semi-accidentally rescued from some fucked up circus freaks, starts running even faster. They find a kind goth who joins them in their scooby adventures, because Jon is HIGHLY susceptible to serial killers and Gerry is kind enough to help him escape being bookified. They end up starting a ghost hunting YouTube channel, Ghost Hunt--not to be confused with Ghost Hunt UK, who hates them on a profound level--to cover up their monster hunting supernatural shenanigans. It gains immense popularity--because of Jon's skepticism about the existence of supernatural.
Marvel: the idea is that there are many Peter Parker's in the Multiverse, and the Collector just wants the one that no one would miss. A very lonely version of Peter gets nabbed right when he's starting off his Spider-Man career, before anyone even knows the name, by a Collector who's decided he's the centerpiece of his collection. This one is so dramatic. There's TRAUMA. There's SPACE. There's a GLADIATOR ARENA. There's MIND GAMES. the REVENGERS are there. And, Yes, I found a way for the Frank Castle's dead family to be there too. This is yet another one of my defridging the castle family stories. I am obsessed with this AU and it is so ridiculously niche. If anyone wants to ever read a space odyssey featuring Peter Parker and the Punisher's dead family, by fucking god, i have you covered.
#i want you to know in the buzzfeed unsolved au there's a meme about how the ghost hunt boys are actually secret monster hunters#because of all of the people who insist that the ghost hunt boys saved them from supernatural monster#and jon and the rest are fucking sweating#danny is the camera man on account of there's a bunch of fucked up clowns who want his spectacular skin#they don't want to give clues as to his location#the web knows where they are at all times no matter what they do#and gerrys mom doesn't know how to use a computer#so jon and gerry get to be the hosts#melanie is absolutely VIBRATING becuase these guys are besmirching the ghost hunting profession#and also people keep confusing the names#meanwhile jon and gerry in peter lukas's apartment complex trying to save the world: sometimes the real horror is capitalism#lets talk building code violations#*in a haunted building that's trying to bring the apocalypse* this isn't haunted we just need to marie kondo this space and sue the manager#in the peter parker one peter stole mjolner from the collector#ned gets it every second tuesday and on christmas to keep in his room as the world's sickest knickknack#thor's like 'haha are you. are you not using it for anything else. is it. could someone else maybe use it better. maybe--'#and everyone's else like 'thor stop trying to wheedle mjolner back from the plainly traumatized child'#i don't know why i'm so obsessed with the castle family but maria castle has a space gun and a bestie relationship with matt Murdock#matt's a smug asshole about it to#he comes over and maria's like 'MATTY' and Matt's like fully picking her up and twirling her around like HI BEST FRIEND and franks like >:(#i am so fucking convinced that matt and maria castle would be best fucking friends and i will put it in everything i can#why do i care so much about these two universes
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Rewatching Bobby begins again for the 50th time and I really do think Bobby is my favorite character on 911
#his story is just so important to me and it doesn’t hurt that Peter Krause be acting his pussy off every scene he’s inn#but him in s1 going from making a list of people he’s saved so that once he cancels out the lives he accidentally took he’ll kill himself#to accepting he not only deserves to live and has so much more to offer to the world but he also deserves to enjoy life and be happy#Bobby in s2 kinda walking on eggshells around Harry and may and Michael because he doesn’t want to overstep#and he also doesn’t feel like he has a right to say or do anything#Bobby’s ‘I’m no body’s father’ in s2#to Harry saying he was gonna have 3 dads and may saying he’s her dad in s5#to may saying that Athena brought 2 kids into the marriage and he brought buck#🥺#Bobby reaching out the the drunk driver who caused the accident and trying to help her recover#Bobby being a character who almost let all his darkness and pain consume him but instead he’s able to move on#and be a beacon of life and love and happiness and support for everyone in his life 🥲#anyways I love Robert Wayne Nash with my whole heart#Kelly watches 911
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My love for Peter B. Parker died
Spider-Ham is my favorite now
#what the hell was that?#he really told a 15 year old to let his dad died#and then immediately show off his baby to him#“I know you're mad because we want to stop you from saving your dad's life but look how happy I am with my family” -Peter B. Parker#Spider ham would not have done this to Miles#spider man: across the spider verse#across the spider verse
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I GOT TO THE FUCKING SCENE. WITH DAVID. I'M RUINED.
#i can't do this i can't do this i can't do this i can't do this i can't do this i can't do this i can't do this i can't do this i can't do#fuck. i. fuck. make me cry why don't you. holy shit#something about gustavo being genuinely happy and content with someone. genuinely smiling. speaking so softly.#being attracted to this person. liking this person. but never truly loving him. he could never truly love him.#(his heart belongs to someone else)#FUCK man i'm breaking down. i am breaking down. this is not okay#peter gould...................... i have words to share with you#i am. in pain. destroyed. utterly ruined.#he bought that wine that probably expensive ass wine i bet because david went on and on about it#and he says he's saving it for a truly special occasion. an invitation. AN INVITATION. and david says he'd love to hear about it.#he'd love to. he'd love to hear about it. when it happens. he wants to hear.#(he doesn't want to be there)#bro :(((( gustavo asked him out!!!!! GUSTAVO ASKED HIM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and he turned him down.#AND GUSTAVO FINISHED HIS WINE AND FUCKING LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE PRETENDED TO BE CALLED AWAY HE WAS SO UPSET ABOUT THAT REJECTION#gustavo could've found love HE COULD'VE FOUND LOVE he didn't love him yet but he could learn he could move on from max#but david REJECTED him and then walter KILLS him and he will never move on from max's death#and he'll never experience love stronger than what he had with max because the one man he cared for rejected him#and the one man he ever truly loved is dead and gustavo will never get revenge and gustavo will never move on. he can't move on#god this scene fucking devastated me holy shit i am going to CRY#AND IT'S RIGHT AFTER HE STARED INTO THE POOL MAX BLED INTO. RIGHT AFTER HE STARES AT THE SCENE OF HIS LOVER'S DEATH THIS HAPPENS.#HE KILLS LALO AND HE MAKES THE DONS MOCK HECTOR AND HE STARES AT THE SCENE AND MAKES A CHOICE AND DAVID REJECTS HIM DO YOU UNDERSTAND#fuck i'm gonna cry. ugh#the coca cola company's cock and ball stories#the coca cola company buys brba
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Random thought but I do imagine that Owynn and Eak occasionally saw other people over the years, especially when their relationship was going through a rough patch. I don't think they ever considered their relationship to be open, it just sort of... Became an unspoken agreement between them.
#eakwynn#it was half because owynn liked getting into things with fellow celebrities once he got famous#he didn't feel like dating any of them but he did think they were attractive and it helped boost his career so#why not make out a little?#and half because eak didn't particularly feel like waiting for owynn to make up his mind forever#like. a guy has *needs*#he wasn't really interested in finding someone new but occasionally fooling around with a stranger was... nice#it made him feel desirable and was a good way to forget about all his responsibilities + complicated feelings for a while#that whole thing kind of petered out the older they got as their relationship started stabilizing#and eventually they agreed to stop it altogether because they wanted their whole focus to be each other (+ their son)#I don't think they ever talked much about the subject though. they just said enough to be on the same page#eak knew some of the stuff owynn was up to based on paparazzi and honestly didn't want to have any more info than that#owynn meanwhile would like to know. but he also knows himself and knows that he's a very very jealous person#so if he got details about what eak did and who he did then he'd probably never stop thinking about it#to save himself the headache he just asked if it was anyone he knew (to rule out liontrap) and decided to move on from that
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