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Once you start harassing people over their tastes in fiction, you've gone too far.
You should not be sending anon hate.
You should not be telling people to kill themselves.
You should not be contacting people's family members, job, or school.
You should not be sending people gore.
You should not be telling people that they deserve their trauma.
You should not be attacking people over liking something fictional. At that point, you're the problem. Not the person making things you don't like, YOU. Harassment is never acceptable.
#anti anti#pro ship#profiction#proship#anti ship#antiship#neutralship#neutral ship#ship discourse#fandom
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“I Just Fixed Their Art—“
No, No, No. You Defaced It. Use Big Words Art Theft.
Don’t You Dare Hide Behind Wanting To Help SA Victims.
If Anything You’re Hurting Them In A Way.
#Mouthwashing#Anya#ProShip#ProShipping#ProShippers#ProShipper#ComShip#ComShipping#ComShippers#ComShipper#DarkShip#DarkShipping#DarkShippers#DarkShipper#NeutralShip#NeutralShipping#NeutralShippers#NeutralShipper#ProFiction#ProFic#AntiHarassment#AntiCensorship#Discourse#Fandom Discourse#Ship Discourse#Shipping Discourse#Shippers Discourse#Shipper Discourse#Creative Discourse#Creativity Discourse
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I was gonna wait for the poll to close to share this, but I think I've gotten enough results on that one to move on. I've chosen to make this into a full-on survey because I don't wanna spam this blog with polls lmfao. I also included the poll question in case anyone who answered wrong the first time can change that. Once again, you don't have to be associated with either side (or even identify as 'neutralship') to take this. This is an open discussion.
Additionally, I encourage yall to reblog so others can answer too!/nf
Once again, please be civil in the reblogs. Also, rude/inflammatory answers on the final question will not be counted.
#tagging for reach->#proship#anti ship#antiship#anti anti#profic#profiction#neutralship#ship discourse#shipcourse#fandom wank#fandom discourse#fandom problems#self ship#antifiction#anti proship#anti profic#anti proshipper
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As an ex-anti, the way that some proshippers act regarding people who left the proship community due to traumatic experiences is honestly very disgusting and some of you really need to grow a heart.
Can you imagine a proshipper talking about their traumatic experiences as an ex-anti and in response, antis laughed at them? You all would be fuming, so why is it magically okay when it’s the reverse of that? “This is funny!” “Lmfao!” “Why seek help?” This isn’t even counting the times I’ve seen proshippers say that ex proshippers are dumb or evil or lacking in morals when being an ex proshipper ≠ being an anti.
Congratulations if you’ve never had a bad experience while in the proship community but a lot of other people, me included, can’t say the same.
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What is Neutralship?
Neutralship, often known as ship-neutral, refers to those who are "neutral" or unconcerned with shipcourse. They may be pro- or anti-leaning, or completely unaligned.
Neutralship also means your anti harassment. That implies you will not bother someone about their fandom preferences, or pass judgment on their fantasies or ships.
Neufic - those who identify as neufic may be pro- or anti-leaning, or wholly unaligned; they are neutral on fiction and do not engage in ship discourse
And for short, we are called newts.
The purple flags are peacefic. The pink is neutralship.
Peacefic Emoji combos - ☮🦢, ☮📖, 🌈☮, 🌈🦢, 🦢🌙,
Neutralship emoji combos - 🎀 🫧, 🎀🌙 , 🫧🎀 , 🌈🎀, 🌈 🫧, 🌈🌙
Neufic emoji combos- 💎 🦋, 🌈💎, 💍🦋
#neutralshipper#neutral ship#neutralship culture#neutralship#neuship#neutralshipping#neutralshippers#ship neutral#peacefic#anti harassment#ship discourse#shipping discourse#neutralship safe space#fandom#shipcourse#ship discussion#discourse#neufic#fiction discourse#tw shipping#ao3#fanfic discourse#fandom discourse#anti fanpol#Anti fandom police#proship#antiship#comship#darkship#Op is neutralship
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Do you know any other proship/neutral editblogs?
I want to follow some more editors and be a lil community but I have no clue what tags I'd have to look to find one- and figured you would know of some
Yes? No? So we usually don't really care about edit blogs' discourse stances so we don't necessarily have an easily accessible list of people who are explicitly pro/neu-ship
However,
Here are a few proship/neuship/no dni edit blogs that we DO know of!!
[not directly tagging anyone because the anxiety is really bad for some reason? but they're all the correct urls we promise just copy paste]
(also if you're mentioned and want to be removed let me know and I'll take you off!! /gen) (it might be a while since I don't check this blog constantly but I will do it 🙏)
Explicitly proship:
alphystims
cheeseyproship (doesn't appear to be editing focused but does do moodboards!)
stimmers-please-interact (do stimboards count as edits? I'm deciding they do)
black-salt-cage (also a stimboard account)
batexe (says profiction but I'm counting that lol)
shouta-editss
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Explicitly neutralship:
pleasantcherryblossomtreenight
- ★ -
No DNI or none that we could find:*
*we cannot guarantee these people are okay with pro/neu-ship interaction but they at least don't explicitly state they're not so. beggars can't be choosers.
moonstar-edits
aventurinecoins
deadwatchx
mydarlingedits (E) | pochisden (18+)
terabyte-teddybear
That being said...
Any and all pro/neu-ship or no dni edit blogs feel free to reblog and promote yourself!!
Or reblog and promote your own favourite pro/neu-ship or no dni editors!!
#ive spent an hour on this ask btw . appreciate my hard work of going through so many profiles /silly#✧─── ıılıılı ✩°。 impossible comebacks are sorta my specialty ᯓ asks#proship#pro ship#proshipping#pro shipping#proshipper#pro shipper#profic#profiction#pro fic#pro fiction#antihara#anti hara#antiharassment#anti harassment#proship safe#proship please interact#neutralship#neuship#neutral ship#neu ship#no dni
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What’s “peacefic”?
I have been back and forth on this for a little bit now, but I think it’s important I make this.
In terms of proship/antiship discourse or discussion, I am on neither side. I am what you call peacefic and/or neutralship.
To clear up any assumptions after reading my stance, I do not like or support taboo shippings.
Most might label me a comshipper because most of my ships are interspecies (non-human x non-human, or things like alien x non-alien). A “light” comshipper specifically because I don’t like taboo ships. They are just not for me and I am incredibly uncomfortable them.
I do not support harassment over fiction. It is dumb. It can end up treading into illegal territory with things such as death threats or sexual harassment. Harassment solves nothing. It only leads to worse outcomes.
I block things I don’t like. Do I find people that ship things like pedophilia or incest weird? Yea, I do. I’m not going to sugarcoat it because I find those ships gross. But, I am not going to go out of my way and bother them.
With that all being said, if you’re curious about what peacefic is. Here’s a Carrd or you can search up “peacefic” on Tumblr or Google.
I don’t want there to be a ton of stuff on my blog about anti/proship discourse. I have negative experiences with both sides which contributes a lot to why I’m in the middle.
I’m not going to do a “DNI if you’re anti/proship”. That’s dumb and kind of beats the entire purpose of my stance. In other words, anyone’s welcome just respect my boundaries. I block freely regardless.
Yes, putting this out here is a big deal for me since I have been heavily involved with proship/anti stuff for two years now and have been conflicted as hell as to what I am.
And huge thanks to @snowie-flake for introducing me the peacefic term! Any harassment sent their way is not fucking tolerated.
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I dont think I have the energy to give a fuck about fandom discourse anymore when the world going into the shit in 4x speed. USA is going in the tipping point of either stay as it is now or going full fascism, Palestine is still being bombed, a pos military guy the product of soeharto's (second president and a dictator) era got elected as the president of my country, and bigotry is on the rise everywhere.
Like... I can't I cant give a fuck about people who are angry over incest ship or whatever, and the ethics of straight women consuming yaoi, or how you should treat Astarion ("oh my goD DonT ASCEnd HiM Oh My GoD DONt GEt hIS SCar TatoO"). Your energy better spent doing real changes to save yourself rn instead of getting angry over genshin impact ship, fan art, or whatever drama of the day...
Sure fandom can be used as activism, but whatever drama on your fandom pales in comparison to what happen out there
#i cant#fandom#fandom discourse#shipping discourse#fandom wank#fandom bullshit#proship#antiship#neutralship#yourmomship
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INSULTS TO USE INSTEAD OF KYS (Credit to William Shakespeare)
He has not so much brain as ear-wax.
Like the toad; ugly and venomous.
Thou art a boil, a plague sore, an embossed carbuncle in my corrupted blood.
Thou elvish-mark’d, abortive, rooting hog!
I do desire that we may be better strangers.
Out of my sight! Thou dost infect my eyes.
Thou cream faced loon.
Thine face is not worth sunburning.
Villain, I have done thy mother.
Thou art unfit for any place but hell.
Away! Thou’rt poison to my blood.
They have a plentiful lack of wit.
You are not worth another word, else I’d call you knave.
Heaven truly knows that thou art false as hell.
I’d beat thee, but I should infect my hands.
You starvelling, you eel-skin, you dried neat’s-tongue, you bull’s-pizzle, you stock-fish–O for breath to utter what is like thee!-you tailor’s-yard, you sheath, you bow-case, you vile standing tuck!
You are as a candle, the better burnt out.
If you spend word for word with me, I shall make your wit bankrupt.
The rankest compound of villainous smell that ever offended nostril.
This kiss is as comfortless as frozen water to a starved snake.
I wonder that you will still be talking. Nobody marks you.
Thou hast no more brain than I have in mine elbows.
Thou damned and luxurious mountain goat.
She speaks yet she says nothing.
What an ass!
Also I browse for people to add using a separate account, so blocking me won't work if you harass and want to avoid getting added.
#proship#antiship#mod talks#discourse#insults#insults to use instead of kys#syscourse#disk horse#fandom discourse#death threats#neutralship#radqueer#anti radqueer#transid#anti transid
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Tbh both proshippers and anti shippers have this stigma of telling an innocent person from the other side to KYS from what I’ve seen
For anti’s it’s because they dislike what pros do.
And for pros it’s because they can’t fathom someone disliking something they like.
What happened to treat others the way you want to be treated? What happened to Love Thy Neighbor?
Telling someone to off themselves was never and will never be okay.
#neutral ship#neutralship#to be honest#we need to acknowledge#both sides can be bad#neither is above the other
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when I say writing as a craft is dead and shipcourse killed it I'm implicating both sides in it, by the way.
Like, between proshippers being like "writing is just playing with dolls and you don't have to respect your characters at all! characters aren't people lolol" and antis implying that giving your characters BACKSTORIES is pedophilia... I'm not taking writing advice from any of you people
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I Don’t Know Why, But I Think Someone Is Single.
Actually My Theory Is That A ProShipper Broke Up With Them And Now They’re Just Taking It Out On All ProShippers.
#Ships#Ship#Shipping#Shippers#Shipper#ProShip#ProShipping#ProShippers#ProShipper#ComShip#ComShipping#ComShippers#ComShipper#DarkShip#DarkShipping#DarkShippers#DarkShipper#NeutralShip#NeutralShipping#NeutralShippers#NeutralShipper#ProFiction#ProFic#AntiHarassment#Discourse#Fandom Discourse#Ship Discourse#Shipping Discourse#Shippers Discourse#Shipper Discourse
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A few days ago I started a survey intending to document the experiences others have had while partaking in shipcourse. After going through responses of the first survey, and after reading some critiques and questions yall wanted to know, I think it's time to share the second and final survey of my research!
As usual, please be civil in the reblogs. This is an open discussion. Tagging for visibility: @proship-anti-discussion @proshippers-against-censorship @olderthannetfic
Like with the last survey, this one will remain open for three or four days. Also, you guys are allowed to send in asks detailing your experiences with either side, in case you don't feel like going through the survey.
#tagging for visibility#->#proship#antiship#neutralship#shipcourse#fandom wank#fandom discourse#ship discourse#anti proship#anti anti#darkship#comship#proship safe#antis please interact#proshippers please interact#i knew i forgot to include those tags lol#EDIT: rephrased question 5
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saying “you can write about whatever you want” shouldn’t be a fucking controversial statement
#i’m just like that :tm:#DONT come at me with that ‘you’re a proshipper’ bullshit#because I’m neuship#but honest to god#I’m tired of seeing dead dove writers in the osc get harassed#and everywhere else rlly#and I’m tired of having to use an anonymous account to comment on dead dove shit on ao3#because knobheads would find it and use it to harass me#and the sad part is most people would unfollow me for that#sure some would be uncomfortable and that’s hit but most do it to follow the herd#it’s frustrating#neutral ship#neutralship#neutral#profic#pro fiction#anti censorship
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MEW STIMBOARD
I got the gifs on pinterest credit to whoever made the stim gifs
Neutralship and peacefic users please interact! Also stimboard requests are open! ^_^
#neutralshippers#neutralship safe space#neutralshipper#neufic#neutralshipping#neuship#neutralship#neutral ship#cartoon stim#stimboard#anti harassment#pokemon stimboard#peacefic#neutral-ship#ship neutral
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Disabled neutralship culture is seeing both sides constantly be ableist and use disabled people as tokens and as gotchas.
"What about the people who can't separate fiction from reality?" Let them speak for themselves or boost their voices, don't just use a hypothetical disabled person you never have interacted with to feel morally superior.
"What about disordered paraphiles?" Again, let disabled people speak for themselves.You don't actually know about that experience if you're using us as a hypothetical scarecrow.
The list goes on and on. It's disgusting that the people who are tokenized have a hard time actually talking about our experiences when both sides push misinformation on experiences and take over our tags and spaces for clicks and engagement. Or we are assumed to be inherently pro/anti due to being disabled, which is really ableist and demeaning.
I get shit for telling both sides to stop tokenizing people like me and using ableism for their personal comfort.
Not to mention misuse of "purity culture" when it is a specific kind of religious abuse and not just "ew sex/kink/fetish/paraphilias gross." I'm a survivor of it and both sides misuse and water down the term for the type of long term sexual abuse and grooming that's been common since the 80s/90s and even longer in some religions in some aspects. It's not a fandom term, especially with how purity rings (Rings to symbolize not having sex before marriage or showing your purity belongs to your father before being handed to your husband, both beliefs go hand-in-hand) were trendy in the early 2000s.
i have nothing to add. this is straight facts.
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