#neutralship

[tamarahtalkstv]

I Don’t Know Why, But I Think Someone Is Single.

Actually My Theory Is That A ProShipper Broke Up With Them And Now They’re Just Taking It Out On All ProShippers.

[bewareofdeaddove]

Once you start harassing people over their tastes in fiction, you've gone too far.

You should not be sending anon hate.

You should not be telling people to kill themselves.

You should not be contacting people's family members, job, or school.

You should not be sending people gore.

You should not be telling people that they deserve their trauma.

You should not be attacking people over liking something fictional. At that point, you're the problem. Not the person making things you don't like, YOU. Harassment is never acceptable.

[demonic-shadowlucifer]

I was gonna wait for the poll to close to share this, but I think I've gotten enough results on that one to move on. I've chosen to make this into a full-on survey because I don't wanna spam this blog with polls lmfao. I also included the poll question in case anyone who answered wrong the first time can change that. Once again, you don't have to be associated with either side (or even identify as 'neutralship') to take this. This is an open discussion.

Additionally, I encourage yall to reblog so others can answer too!/nf

Once again, please be civil in the reblogs. Also, rude/inflammatory answers on the final question will not be counted.

[slowlyshamelesscolor]

What is Neutralship?

Neutralship, often known as ship-neutral, refers to those who are "neutral" or unconcerned with shipcourse. They may be pro- or anti-leaning, or completely unaligned.

Neutralship also means your anti harassment. That implies you will not bother someone about their fandom preferences, or pass judgment on their fantasies or ships.

Neufic - those who identify as neufic may be pro- or anti-leaning, or wholly unaligned; they are neutral on fiction and do not engage in ship discourse

And for short, we are called newts.

The purple flags are peacefic. The pink is neutralship.

Peacefic Emoji combos - ☮🦢, ☮📖, 🌈☮, 🌈🦢, 🦢🌙,

Neutralship emoji combos - 🎀 🫧, 🎀🌙 , 🫧🎀 , 🌈🎀, 🌈 🫧, 🌈🌙

Neufic emoji combos-  💎 🦋, 🌈💎, 💍🦋

[lungofthefang]

As an ex-anti, the way that some proshippers act regarding people who left the proship community due to traumatic experiences is honestly very disgusting and some of you really need to grow a heart.

Can you imagine a proshipper talking about their traumatic experiences as an ex-anti and in response, antis laughed at them? You all would be fuming, so why is it magically okay when it’s the reverse of that? “This is funny!” “Lmfao!” “Why seek help?” This isn’t even counting the times I’ve seen proshippers say that ex proshippers are dumb or evil or lacking in morals when being an ex proshipper ≠ being an anti.

Congratulations if you’ve never had a bad experience while in the proship community but a lot of other people, me included, can’t say the same.

[mywitchcultblr]

I dont think I have the energy to give a fuck about fandom discourse anymore when the world going into the shit in 4x speed. USA is going in the tipping point of either stay as it is now or going full fascism, Palestine is still being bombed, a pos military guy the product of soeharto's (second president and a dictator) era got elected as the president of my country, and bigotry is on the rise everywhere.

Like... I can't I cant give a fuck about people who are angry over incest ship or whatever, and the ethics of straight women consuming yaoi, or how you should treat Astarion ("oh my goD DonT ASCEnd HiM Oh My GoD DONt GEt hIS SCar TatoO"). Your energy better spent doing real changes to save yourself rn instead of getting angry over genshin impact ship, fan art, or whatever drama of the day...

Sure fandom can be used as activism, but whatever drama on your fandom pales in comparison to what happen out there

[proantiharrasblocklist]

INSULTS TO USE INSTEAD OF KYS (Credit to William Shakespeare)

He has not so much brain as ear-wax.

Like the toad; ugly and venomous.

Thou art a boil, a plague sore, an embossed carbuncle in my corrupted blood.

Thou elvish-mark’d, abortive, rooting hog!

I do desire that we may be better strangers.

Out of my sight! Thou dost infect my eyes.

Thou cream faced loon.

Thine face is not worth sunburning.

Villain, I have done thy mother.

Thou art unfit for any place but hell.

Away! Thou’rt poison to my blood.

They have a plentiful lack of wit.

You are not worth another word, else I’d call you knave.

Heaven truly knows that thou art false as hell.

I’d beat thee, but I should infect my hands.

You starvelling, you eel-skin, you dried neat’s-tongue, you bull’s-pizzle, you stock-fish–O for breath to utter what is like thee!-you tailor’s-yard, you sheath, you bow-case, you vile standing tuck!

You are as a candle, the better burnt out.

If you spend word for word with me, I shall make your wit bankrupt.

The rankest compound of villainous smell that ever offended nostril.

This kiss is as comfortless as frozen water to a starved snake.

I wonder that you will still be talking. Nobody marks you.

Thou hast no more brain than I have in mine elbows.

Thou damned and luxurious mountain goat. 

She speaks yet she says nothing.

What an ass!

Also I browse for people to add using a separate account, so blocking me won't work if you harass and want to avoid getting added.

[newt-mr-sunshine]

Tbh both proshippers and anti shippers have this stigma of telling an innocent person from the other side to KYS from what I’ve seen

For anti’s it’s because they dislike what pros do.

And for pros it’s because they can’t fathom someone disliking something they like.

What happened to treat others the way you want to be treated? What happened to Love Thy Neighbor?

Telling someone to off themselves was never and will never be okay.

[heavy-buddy]

saying “you can write about whatever you want” shouldn’t be a fucking controversial statement

[tamarahtalkstv]

I’d Make A Reblog Of My Last Post, But I Genuinely Don’t Wanna Ruin The Chain Of Happy Posts Attached To It So I’m Just Gonna Post An Update To It Here.

I Don’t Know How They Found Me, But It Doesn’t Matter.

This Is Just F*cking Nasty.

[roguetelepaths]

when I say writing as a craft is dead and shipcourse killed it I'm implicating both sides in it, by the way.

Like, between proshippers being like "writing is just playing with dolls and you don't have to respect your characters at all! characters aren't people lolol" and antis implying that giving your characters BACKSTORIES is pedophilia... I'm not taking writing advice from any of you people

[demonic-shadowlucifer]

A few days ago I started a survey intending to document the experiences others have had while partaking in shipcourse. After going through responses of the first survey, and after reading some critiques and questions yall wanted to know, I think it's time to share the second and final survey of my research!

As usual, please be civil in the reblogs. This is an open discussion. Tagging for visibility: @proship-anti-discussion @proshippers-against-censorship @olderthannetfic

Like with the last survey, this one will remain open for three or four days. Also, you guys are allowed to send in asks detailing your experiences with either side, in case you don't feel like going through the survey.

[slowlyshamelesscolor]

i feel like both proshippers and anti shippers speak over victims a lot? like its mostly non victims trying to dictate that how a csa/sa victim should or shouldnt act. also it feels like purity culture and bootlicking are heavily misused

Yeah, they speak over them much too much, which is wrong. No one should be speaking over someone anyone over fictional content.

[neutral-ship-culture]

Disabled neutralship culture is seeing both sides constantly be ableist and use disabled people as tokens and as gotchas.

"What about the people who can't separate fiction from reality?" Let them speak for themselves or boost their voices, don't just use a hypothetical disabled person you never have interacted with to feel morally superior.

"What about disordered paraphiles?" Again, let disabled people speak for themselves.You don't actually know about that experience if you're using us as a hypothetical scarecrow.

The list goes on and on. It's disgusting that the people who are tokenized have a hard time actually talking about our experiences when both sides push misinformation on experiences and take over our tags and spaces for clicks and engagement. Or we are assumed to be inherently pro/anti due to being disabled, which is really ableist and demeaning.

I get shit for telling both sides to stop tokenizing people like me and using ableism for their personal comfort.

Not to mention misuse of "purity culture" when it is a specific kind of religious abuse and not just "ew sex/kink/fetish/paraphilias gross." I'm a survivor of it and both sides misuse and water down the term for the type of long term sexual abuse and grooming that's been common since the 80s/90s and even longer in some religions in some aspects. It's not a fandom term, especially with how purity rings (Rings to symbolize not having sex before marriage or showing your purity belongs to your father before being handed to your husband, both beliefs go hand-in-hand) were trendy in the early 2000s.

i have nothing to add. this is straight facts.

[leitereads]

Nobody gives a fuck (including myself), but anyway:

I am not a shipper. I don't ship fictional characters. I couldn't care less about who fictional characters are fucking. I couldn't care less about who you want fictional characters to fuck. I couldn't care less about the sexuality of many fictional characters (not that I don't think it isn't important for representation purposes though).

The point is: you want to ship something considered "problematic" or "controversial"? Go ahead, I couldn't care less. I can block tags if there is something I reeeeeally don't like/don't want to see. I am not a pro-shipper, because I am not even a shipper myself. But if people want to ship and they are not doing anything illegal, I really couldn't care less. Make sure to tag stuff accordingly, so people can block tags they feel uncomfortable with though. It's common sense.

Just let me watch/read the fuck I want in peace and leave me the hell out of any discussions that may arise because of shipping.

[newt-mr-sunshine]

I’m sorry but you people need to stop thinking in fucking extremes

If you think me being against harassment is me being a proshipper you are stupid.

If you think me having my own opinions on what content I consume to curate my own algorithm and not wanting to consume romanticized content of how my parents were assaulted and how I was abused makes me an anti shipper you are stupid.

I don’t want to be any of your labels because they feel fucking wrong.

And if you’re concerned about me aligning with a label get off my blog, this is not for you.