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newt-mr-sunshine · 10 months ago
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Tbh both proshippers and anti shippers have this stigma of telling an innocent person from the other side to KYS from what I’ve seen
For anti’s it’s because they dislike what pros do.
And for pros it’s because they can’t fathom someone disliking something they like.
What happened to treat others the way you want to be treated? What happened to Love Thy Neighbor?
Telling someone to off themselves was never and will never be okay.
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hajihiko · 9 months ago
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It runs in the family
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cringefailvox · 7 months ago
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ideal radiostatic relationship progression for me personally is friends to enemies to codependency
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dxxtruction · 8 months ago
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"Louis acting like a pimp to Armand" And what is a pimp exactly? Quickly. And, oh so sexual trauma survivors can't engage in kink now without it being all about that? Pet names? They can't be submissive anymore? Consensually? Sexually healthy? Be serious. I'd hardly say there's much power difference between them during all this anyway, except that Louis is freer than Armand and it's been putting a strain on their relationship. Louis wants more from Armand, and less of this 'being his past' for them both, and so helping Armand with this could fix that. It's healthy to want to help your partners get out of a rough patch?
I mean, the whole exchange was very clearly set up as a "I want to help you" after such a great moment of vulnerability Louis feels just how much Armand is desperate for it. Louis called Armand so they could work out a plan together.
And the bit with the umbrella was Louis' way of asking 'are you willing to listen to me?' and Armand said yes by unfolding it. Louis goes on and explains, Armand is allowed to argue against it, but Louis makes his point. And then he gives Armand a way to make his own choice in it too. Armand's already decided 'I want you, more than anything else in the world', but Louis still asks after if he's sure of his choice, and with a name, Arun, that is the one of his fullest agency, running the point home. Honoring the situation Armand calls Louis Maitre - as a way of being like 'I'll do as you've said then'. To make this work he's going to have to give Louis some of the control, yes. But it's the first time such a role is ever established, and it was his choice to do it. So so what if they do it in a very suggestive way? They can't like doing that? I think it's them having fun.
I struggle to find how Louis is being overly domineering here when really he's giving and offering Armand the most agency he's ever had. Same with finding it manipulative. The manipulation was more earlier in the episode I think, when he was stringing him along, giving mixed signals. He's no longer toying with him like that. Louis might be pushing Armand, leading him on to make a decision, but he doesn't mean bad by it.
But back to this pimp thing. I find it frankly offensive that this is where people are going with this. I get it, but to run with it being the case is, on many levels, wrong.
Louis told us episode 1 this was the only sustainable line of work to support his family and keep their standing, at the time. It was never his choice to be doing this either but his blackness allowed no other options. He did what he did so his family could stay in that house and maintain all their same comforts. It gave him privileges most black men didn't have at the time that he wanted to maintain and even have more of. Anyway, it doesn't and had never defined him the way 'being good at running things' had. And in that case he just likes having that kind of control where he can get it, which makes sense.
The world is what placed that kind of role onto him of what he was allowed to be able to run, not himself. And on that he actually treated the sex workers he employed well and respected them enough to give them more opportunity.** He recognizes they don't have much in the way of options either.
Louis employed sex workers, yes, but he didn't subject them to abuse, (like how Armand was)*. He didn't oversee things in a way that would go against their consent (see; episode 1 again)**. Sometimes a job is just a job. And Sex work is work.
Armand's particular past with sexual abuses may strike a particular cord with Louis, given all that, but the very last thing either is thinking is that Louis' pimping Armand out here. This is merely their decision as companions, and had nothing to do with adding another line in a laundry list of selling Armands body out to people at the command of someone else. Armand rescinds some of his control to Louis' wishes, because he wants him, and he trusts him, that's all.
If you aren't allowing Armand that choice, and are doubtful it's fully his, you're putting him right back in the box of being defined by his abuses. Putting him back into that space where he isn't given any agency over what he does. (Which is exactly opposite of what the intent of this scene is for)*.
*: (edit) added for clarity.
**: (strike through) numerous people are saying I'm misremembering these points so disregard it. (Thought he was siding with Bricks, it was the other way around). (Technically one aspect of those opportunities were for getting around the law). I don't have a perfect memory, it happens. Let's not get mad about it. Doesn't change much of the point which is that Louis, now, Louis then, was always considering more about the running things and for stated purposes. So I guess I'd say he may only have respected the SWers enough sometimes for what allowed him to do that, and there are moments he certainly expressed remorse over the fact, but he has a great deal higher respect for Armand that is genuine. It's incomparable. Please read my added notes in the tags, it should address most other concerns.
#amc iwtv#iwtv spoilers#iwtv season 2#Loumand#louis du pointe du lac#armand#interview with the vampire#IWTV#Many people are ranting about this but I'm throwing my hat in too#signed someone who went through csa and is close friends with many swers#long rant#noticing spelling errors in this after posting ffff#added note: I'm not saying armand and louis dynamic is without it's flaws or that louis was somehow without his exploitation and faults#while he was a pimp#as a pimp though he certainly wasn't going about it in the same way as what had happened in the brothel or with marius#I more so say that their very actions are of a healthier dynamic than that this is true even if they themselves are not exactly so#all for nuanced and messed up relationships that run everywhere in this show#But I still don't see it as that specific dynamic I wouldn't call it that there's just an amount of that dominence at play#neither want to be tethered to the roles they've been playing previously and they aren't entirely different for it but#are still arriving to this idea of needing something new to define themselves by and something they both want#they're exploring with this companionship that they're still trying to get a feel for#we as an audience might know they never do fully work their shit out and so are doomed but they don't at that point#last thing I guess is that I am not here to start shit it's fictional and not that serious 4 me 2 care enough 2 go after any1#not individually no#These are just my thoughts#I heavily caution using this idea of it being like the pimp 'jumped out' or whatever for reasons above#and its racist implications as others have said more bluntly (I've implied it)
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phoenixcatch7 · 2 years ago
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Identity reveal shazamily fic idea:
They're fighting some big bad in a huge cave or throne room or in an air pocket miles underwater (the Rock?) and the league and shazamily are all there, every two stuck in separate areas (magic barriers? Cave ins? Enemies simply not letting them close?).
The roof is starting to collapse. Billy catches it, but with his powers divided, he's struggling. With a time limit before he falls, the battle intensifies.
Mary and her jl partner fells her opponent first, and looks across the room just in time to see him stagger under the crushing weight. She cannot reach him (in time?). They meet each others eyes. The wisdom of Solomon, or perhaps Mary batson, has an idea.
In a crash of thunder, she detransforms, in front of their enemies, and the entire justice league.
With power returned, captain marvel stands a bit straighter. The roof grows heavier. Cracks scatter across the high ceiling.
As Mary is carried to safety, the family understands what they must do.
In conjunction with the league member they were trapped with, they work to defeat their opponents, and one by one transform, each time revealing people too small, too young. The crash of thunder marks each victory. Rubble starts to fall and shake the earth as the league members pull their partners to safety, gathering together by the entrance, bandaging their wounds. All eyes are on Marvel, trapped under a great pillar of stone. (They have been working with him for years now, but each of his family has been revealed to be children. Is he, too?) Each time he raises the ceiling a little higher, and each time it grows heavier as the battles and the ticking clock destabilise the thousands of tons above.
At last, the final group win, and exhausted league members piggy back the last child hero over the rubble.
All are evacuated, but Marvel cannot move. Rapid power transfer and hours of stress have taken their toll, and he needs to transform back as well.
Finally, finally, green lantern and superman reach him, and with their help he is freed, collapsing to the side in relief. No one says a word.
With one final lightning strike, the last member of the team is revealed.
He's twelve years old.
And the league needs to take them all to safety.
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annasofthe11thdimension · 7 days ago
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is Like A Wheel Everturning becoming a loopdile fic?
Depends how we're defining 'loopdile' or…tagging ships in general really?
If you mean, 'will these two be hilariously codependent and extremely weird about each other by the end of this story?' then the answer is: yes.
However the DETAILS of their relationship will be dependent on how the stories between here and the ending pan out. Like I DO have an outline for the plot beats, but I tend to leave more room for fluid change in character relationships.
Though for all i say that…i am beginning to accept that no matter my thoughts on this, at SOME point I'm going to have to start tagging this with Odile/Loop…with all the extra gesturing towards 'STRONG shades of aro/ace, meaning the vibes are all one foot to the left from shipping, but likewise whatever they've got going on is too intense to NOT tag as a ship' that will go with that.
When that happens will be seen. With my track record (of having characters end up REAL different places in relationships then i planned for and having to hurriedly rework ALL my tags to reflect this) I'm not really comfortable committing to tagging stuff like that until i have to lol. too annoying to have to go back and change shit later.
I want to know the end game before i tag anything basically - so! Final answer is a helpless shrug and 'oh probably at some point, i guess'.
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miharuhebinata · 6 months ago
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you guys really weren't kidding about how fucking good lake mungo is
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acaptainbyanyothername · 8 months ago
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Midst spoilers for S3 E16: Trustfall
This is sort of just a jumble of my own interpretation of Phineas and Jonas’ dynamic (which is definitely influenced by my being aspec and having a strange understanding of romance) but I honestly don’t think the kiss complicates their relationship any more than it already is complicated. I feel like their overall dynamic would have been relatively unchanged if they hugged in that moment instead of kissed. Phineas said it best— they’re each others’ person. They both made atrocious mistakes and fucked each other up, but at the end of the day they love each other. When going into this episode, I had no idea if they were going to kiss or not (I knew both were possibilies, but didn’t know the direction it was going to take). But I knew based on their respective arcs and views of each other they were going to plan their futures in conjunction. They were always going to be the most important person to each other. They just so happen to be similar-aged and both attracted to each other, so they used a kiss to demonstrate that to each other instead of other methods of affection. I think trying to wrestle them into typical “romantic” or “platonic” boundaries will always fundamentally miss an aspect of their dynamic. They both fucked each other up, but they want to work through it and plan a path forward. They are the most important person to each other, and they demonstrated in multiple ways througout they episode, one of them being a kiss.
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reimeichan · 10 months ago
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God it's definitely super weird for me to read through things related to DID experiences that are just. Painted in a negative light????? And not just by others but even like, the others in my brain and the stuff they post can sometimes get so sad and woe-is-me and stuff. And for the most part, for me, I've not really experienced my DID as a negative in my life. Like yeah sure I experienced a lot of trauma growing up and it absolutely sucked and it probably says something about me as an alter that I can kind of handwave that away (relatively speaking), buuuuut also I remember for me being really excited as I was going through my own syscovery back when I was 12 years old or so. And yeah, I did kind of think of DID in a "friends in my head" kind of situation, but more than that it felt like stuff finally made sense for me! Oh, so that's why I sometimes say things I don't mean. That's why my friends tell me I said something the other day that not only do I not remember but I also now vehemently disagree with. That's why I feel like I can never make up my mind and why my brain is so noisy all the time. So much of my life and my experiences suddenly fell into place that I felt a huge sense of relief to know that what I was experiencing actually made sense! I can't relate to anyone who talks about living with DID as if it's some sort of curse they're struggling to break out of. For me, knowing about my system and my DID has been a huuuuge blessing in my life and a source of so much joy for me.
I dunno, I just... I know this isn't even an abnormal experience online, but I know a lot of people who see posts by people who don't feel all doom and gloom towards their disorders as, idk, making light of a serious thing? And I'm not trying to do that! I just want my experiences to be able to live equally beside those who do struggle with their DID. I mean... I share a brain with people who don't find joy in our diagnosis. I get it. But there's also those of us who are happy that we exist the way we do. And I think it's important to have room for both sides of the spectrum in the community, and for anything in between or even outside of it.
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sunburstsky · 8 months ago
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So in this last episode we had confirmed:
1. Indri, who 2/3rds of the party is infatuated with, is Big BAD Lady in a very real way and can call down the memories of stars, including the ones shining into her library
2. If you “flee” (and i just feel that the definition of that might be a little squishy in this specific scenario) *within a mile* of Grimore, you are as good as dead
oh this is DELICIOUS
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limewatt · 27 days ago
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let’s study hard rui: “but, mizuki… mizuki seems like she’s having much more fun, now” an: “really? i guess i only know the mizuki we have now” -> ena5 rui: “i’m sure, if it were the mizuki from back then, […]. but right now, i can only see it as ‘i don’t know’. mizuki has changed with meeting everyone.” sickening 😍! he doesn’t know her anymore!
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bumblingbabooshka · 1 year ago
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Two people on a small bipartisan science station gently fall in love.
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😐😑😐
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meggsssart · 4 months ago
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Just me wondering how my D&D characters would work in a party together. Spoiler: they wouldn't.
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compacflt · 1 year ago
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I don’t know why, but I totally believe Mav is one of those skincare people. Just look at how he takes care of his body. Anyways, he doesn’t have a multi-step process since he’s busy, but does have a couple good pricey serums. I also think as a retirement gift, Ice got him an appointment to get one of those chemical peels that takes a few weeks to recover from. Okay, that’s it.
agree to very very much disagree. maverick wears hanes t-shirts that you buy in plastic-wrapped counts of 12 for less than $20 and he wears jeans that were on buy-one-get-two-free sale at macys. Sorry. you could not Pay me to believe that man invests in skincare.
imo ice & mav are superhumanly blessed with good skin & good hair. to the extent that they use dollar store shit and are totally fine and never ever see the need for nicer shit. like a neutrogena commercial will play on the tv and they’re clueless. like “who actually needs that stuff? just wash your face once in a while, you’ll be fine” (the same advice they give to middle school/high school Bradley, who finds their advice summarily unhelpful) they have no knowledge of skincare or any of that stuff because they’ve annoyingly never needed it. they’ll put sunscreen on when they go to the beach… but, like, that’s it. they’re just dudes.
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janthonyfell · 7 months ago
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hear me out- HEAR ME OUT.
Terzo in his white "He is" music video suit and Copia with his white suit, together just like Nihil and Imperator in the "Dance Macabre" music video, having that peculiar wedding and kissing while it's raining blood-
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