#me if i was written by vivziepop
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i swear to fucking god im not a hater but if i see another fucking badly-made thumbnail boring neurotypical straight guy with lame monotone voice talking over buncha mfb clips video of the worst metal fight beyblade takes ive ever seen with the unfunniest jokes im gonna rearrange the DNA sequence of the closest person to me to that of a Doto greenamyeri nudibranch because i swear to god just shut the fuck up.
how the fuck do you meatheads base how much you like a character over powerscaling and win ratio. would you prefer a wild bear over your own mother because the bear is stronger than her? thats how you fuckin sound like. i gotta rant this shit out because i had enough if i hear another fucking "ryĆ«ga da goatđ„¶đ" "beyblade really is that seriousđ€Ł" "This show is so acousticđ”" "did you know that moses split the sea with a be-" WE FUCKING KNOW THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS AT THIS POINT. ALSO IF YOU DEADASS USE AUTISM AS AN INSULT LET ALONE USE THE WORD ACOUSTIC OR ARTISTIC FOR IT STAY 7 KILOMETERS AWAY FROM ME AND ALSO DONT WATCH METAL FIGHT BEYBLADE EVERYONE IS GAY AND AUTISTIC YOU KNOW WHYâïž which cishet neurotypical out there makin spinning tops fight with neon green or blue whateverthefuck hair half the cast looks like they been hiding in closet before their debut episode.
PRIME example of these bad takes is , because of powerscaling again the hate on masamune ? i thought people hated him because they thought he was annoying (like how i did when i first watched it when i was little) (FOUR YRS OLD) and like id get that as in he talks alot or whatever but people hate him because. fucking. "he has a low win ratio and claims to be the number one blader" BITCH THATS A 15 YR OLD. or like around that age somewhere you get the point. so what if the taco doritos colour palette guy a little confident in himself bitch you hate fun you hate sillyness. people also use him as like a tool to praise kenta? constantly i see takes like "kenta is like masamune if masamune didnt suck" or something as in they both try to rise to the top and get stronger but one of them doesnt talk shit like did you know you can praise a character without putting down the other one motherfucker. another one is "masamune isnt a legendary blader because he talks shit but cant actually back it up" Hey my brother in Allah lets play a little game. which one of the fucking legendary bladers talks big about himself. you have ten seconds. 10...9...8....KING. KING IS RIGHT THERE .
also saw someone say damian shouldve been a legendary bladerâïžâïžmf that boy was on rearrangement stereoids the effects of that wouldve already worn off by the time of metal fury how does that even WORKKđđ he was probably off with 3 big fucking pet dogs to eat custard pudding or sumn idk .RyĆ«ga dickriding has been a thing for for ever but right now for some reason people decided they didnt talk about that guy enough. theres so many videos on him guys there are other characters to talk about i can write a three billion word essay on damian but i dont think i can say anything about ryĆ«ga that hasnt been said at this point. also the people who claim hes alive BECAUSE hes alive in the manga is crazy like yall cant see those as two different universes? im not saying wether if i think hes alive or not this isnt about that dont miss the point. i wanted to make text posts about mfb for forever but i was embarrased for god knows why so i just posted my mfb fanart on my main but i cant take it anymore (eatina burger with no honey mustard) must speak this time im afraid
also sorry if this is hard to read im not good at ending sentences where i should punctuation jumpscare. powerscaling mfs will hear u say u like a character like for example tsubasa or sumn and immediately bring up ryƫga like shut the fuck up this shit happened on twitter i dont even use twitter i opened the app for 000.1 seconds. you just jelaous ryƫga will never serve like did mf also im not a ryƫga hater anyways i reached the character limit fuck
#rant post#Sorry i had to . FUCK.#mfb#beyblade#beyblade metal saga#metal fight beyblade#beyblade metal fight#beyblade metal fury#ryuuga#Ryƫga#masamune kadoya#me if i was written by vivziepop
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"fuck me in my little red hole" and "I'm gonna fuck everyone in that rancid shit hole I swear to God" are the two vocal stims the Hellaverse gave me that I really didn't need.
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I like how we donât see Fizz completely until he has his horns covered and how Fizz also doesnât wake up Ozzie until he has his horns covered.
That whilst heâs lying on Ozzie he is still almost completely under the cover. You can barely see the tip of his face and his arm.
But then the alarm goes off and he has hidden himself entirely under the sheet.
#helluva boss#helluva boss season 2#youtube#vivziepop#helluva boss fizzarolli#helluva boss ozzie#helluva Boss - OOPS#I need a fic about this immediately#some emotional hurt/comfort#if it gets written u have to send me a link
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Reminder that this is the level of drag 'representation' angel dust gives :/
This is bottom of the barrel feminization towards drag performing arts :/
And since helluva boss fans are only do passive as to read everything at surface level only here is the Spitting definition of drag queens/kings
At no point is it intrinsically all about just sexual performance or sexual drive, it can be a factor or a small portion but it is not just a large generalization as much as people are trying to make drag performing seem to be.
Drag is an art form. It is a statement. It is a person of beauty and the love and appreciation of fashion and expression!
Angel Dust is the complete opposite of sex workers or drag performers at all! If AD is supposed to resemble the theme of abuse in industry [something she already failed to portray with fizzerolli] and the toll that sex workers and addicts within the industry for that matter, we have no clue how he will act in Hazbin but the sneak peek of him in leather gives me no hope if the implication is that he will purely be centered around valentinos abuse. Considering someone on the team ship's and actively adores the ship that is Angel x Valentino
How can you claim to support sex workers while actively seeing them as purely fetishism gay yaoi bait THAT YOU ACTIVELY MERCHANDISE AS """SEXY""":/
There is nothing to angel dust besides the appeal of a feminine man being sexually abused.
#anti vivziepop#fucked up#i am a transmasc nonbinary binding male please. debate me over this. ive also dealt with addict and od's within my family.#helluva boss critical#hazbin hotel critical#please stop supporting spindlehorse#vivziepop critical#anti helluva boss#please stop supporting vivziepop#spindlehorse critical#been meaning to make this post for a while#vivziepop is aphobic#vivziepop is homophobic#*if she isnt her writing sure the hell is#also im acearo while im now an ex-kinnie of AD so i know my shit as to what the fuck im talking about with vivzie history and her art ;/#there is no characterization or bite to angel outside of his drag sona#the merch is problematic becaua ei thought the red smoke resembled the control valentino had upon him so... why????#is it just me am i the only person noticing the problem???#leather with no mystique and lace with all the abuse blatantly written over :x#anti raph
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Having been in both fandoms, I seriously don't understand why two characters (Jimmy from mouthwashing and Valentino from hazbin hotel) don't get the same or even similar treatment from the fans despite both of them having SAd someone.
#is it because Valentino is gay? is it because Vivziepop likes him? what makes him special?#like I've seen despicable things done to Jimmy and people apologizing for 'having to draw him'. censoring his name etc#but Valentino fans are ok with all that he's done?#is it the narrative? the creator(s)?#I understand that these two fandoms consist of completely different kind of people but still...#Val doesn't get enough hate and Jimmy gets way too much#Jimmy is mentaly unwell and written like a real human. Val is like. neither. he's just like that#I'm tired#sa mention#cw sa mention#not really but yk#mouthwashing#mouthwashing jimmy#jimmy mouthwashing#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel valentino#not art#text#me complaining#fandom critical#I'm going to sleep this off actually I'm sure it won't be as confusing in the morning
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A lot of people are going around saying that Amity in Season 2 is just "Luz's girlfriend", or that her character just revolves around Luz now. The thing is, in order for a character to solely revolve around another, their relationship to that character needs to be the ONLY major character trait they have and the story can't develop them much outside of that. For Amity in Season 2 to be defined by Luz, she needs to have no development beyond "Luz's girlfriend" and that's it.
So...is Amity defined by Luz in Season 2?.....not really. Sure, her relationship with Luz is a major part of her character, but Luz isn't the only thing that Amity was going for her character in Season 2, there is still the conflict with her parents shown in Escaping Expulsion and Reaching Out, as well as Clouds on The Horizon. Not to mention Eclipse Lake which has Amity relating to another character with similar struggles to her.
Amity's relationship with Luz in Season 2 is a big part of her character, yes, but she isn't solely defined by her lover, she has other things her going on in Season 2, and it's kind of annoying when people reduce Amity in Season 2 to just that.
#toh#the owl house#amity blight#luz noceda#lumity#I got a lot of comments on my âIf TOH was written by vivziepop postâ telling me that most of the stuff I listed was what TOH already was#and...#that's kinda baffling#it really just shows how this series is a MAGNET for awful takes being parroted around
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ur post about queerbaiting and the dismissal of people in fandom to critical analysis is so incredibly true thank you. i feel like marcille's writing in the anime has been super misogynistic a lot of the time and every time i bring this up all anyone wants to say is "well maybe this isn't for you! and you shouldn't watch the show!" like. i don't think this is about taste lmao, i am analyzing the text in front of me and coming to conclusions about the craft of it.
[This is in reference to this post]
YES!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
It is so so frustrating!!!!
It's like being at a restaurant and being served a bunch of delicious appetizers, but then one of the bread appetizers is literally just a plate of crumbs; and then when you're like, "Hey, uhh, why are we being served literal crumbs?", a bunch of the other folks eating at the restaurant are like,
"WELL HOW ABOUT YOU JUST DON'T EAT HERE THEN??!? YOU MUST NOT BE THAT HUNGRY, SO JUST FIND ANOTHER RESTAURANT AND DON'T EAT WITH US!!"
And maybe they say it politely, but "Aw, sorry, maybe this restaurant just isn't for you đ" is just trading out an aggressive dismissive tone for a patronizing dismissive tone. It's the same message.
And it's like! I was honestly happy to move on from the crumbs once my complaint was acknowledged because the meal overall is still delicious, but then all these folks got SUPER WEIRD AND DEFENSIVE ABOUT IT, so now I find myself double-checking all the other dishes -- and, actually, you know what those eggs DO look a Iittle misogynistic undercooked!!!!
#original#queerbaiting#dunmeshi#dungeon meshi#falin x marcille#marcille x falin#marcille donato#delicious in dungeon#dungeon meshi marcille#listen i like marcille but u r right she is basically there to be a wet blanket a LOT of the time and that is a sexist trope#i think the bar is super super low for female characters in adventure anime and the lack of constant ogling maybe makes the female#characters feel better written than they are. i mean falin basically has no personality. she's got an innocent heart but that's nothing.#and i think these conversations are worth having bc no piece of media is perfect and this is how we learn to do better#also like. I've seen media criticisms that make me go 'oh you straight up should reserve commentary bc you#haven't watched the show and you're wrong' or 'i see what you're saying but you are simply incorrect' but like#i don't think I'd tell someone to just NOT watch Hazbin Hotel bc they have a bad take - and certainly not bc they have accurately#pinpointed a real flaw about the show (of which there are more than a few but frankly not what became the biggest subject of Disc Horse)#Angel is actually an amazing character & i think people mistook a criticism on the way abuse is glamourized as actually glamourizing abuse#like his song about abuse is called Poison and he's trapped in an abusive performance contract - bringing to mind Britney Spears#i think it is a wildly triggering and painful scene but i think a lot of people took the pain it gave them to mean it was bad art#but tbh they are still allowed to eat at the table if they so choose!!!#sorry i got sidetracked - as an abuse survivor Angel just matters a lot to me. i have a couple serious criticisms of vivziepop's work but#Angel is very much not one of them#also in regards to the actual subject of this post i think the most audacity of the responses i got was the one that said#that by complaining about queerbaiting I was 'de-incentivizing writers to write any interaction b/t women that could look even a little gay#and I'm just like. good. I hope they stop writing entirely. if the takeaway from 'please don't sell me bread and then serve me crumbs' is#'WELL NOW I JUST WON'T BAKE ANY BREAD PRODUCT' then that person is a bad chef. they should find a different job.#or at least do a whole lot of work on themselves. but either way i wouldn't be too broken up to know i won't be getting any food from them.#'just leave then' is so obviously a gut reaction defense mechanism & it implies media criticism should only be for things you don't like
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I think that Rosie and Alastor would like letters a lot! Whether love or another sort it feels accurate to their time period <3
#cicisays#tw vivziepop#tw hazbin hotel#i wanna send Rosie secret admirer letters haha#i feel like Alastor wouldn't even keep em as soon as they show any hint of romantic implication#but Rosie?#i bet the written word makes her dead little heart soar#<333#don't mind me#feeling gay on main again#your honor i love her!#i love theeem!#i'd write to Rosie whther dating or friends#\but oh#the gay urge to secretly write her poems and songs and sing her praises from the rooftop#to watch her react rom affar as warm fuzzies bubble up#đłđłđłđł#i bet it's loike no other feeling
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Love that Tumblr is a self-curating experience. Itâs only here that I can truly protect myself from seeing Hazbin Hotel content against my fucking will.
#STOP â showing me that shit#I donât want to see the badly written adult animation show with shitty jokes and horrible character designs#also everything is weirdly pink#Iâll never forgive yaâll for making vivziepop famous in any capacity
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how i've felt for three months fr
this is one of my schmoopsy medias, it's an autistic special interest for me. i like to do some critical analysis of it within my circle but sooo much online critique of it is so cliquey and mocking, and then seeing the honest to god vivziepop dickriders responding to it? unbearable. i just love my little show, i love my friends who watch it with me and make it fun, and nothing will ever take that joy away <3
#hazbin hotel#hazbin#vivziepop#hellaverse#spindlehorse#lions and sheep#i seriously do not give a fuck what you think about this show#i also DONT support vivziepop as a person#i dont think the show is written well#i just love it so much :D#and it gave me my beloved husband#great way to weed out ableists who hate autistic people it turns out#autism#hazbin fan#gekkering
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fuuck i forgot how stupid hot Melon was. unfortunately, his vivziepop self has captivated me to no end. i hate it here.
#fugo.txt#beastars#beastars if it was written by vivziepop its FUCKING strange isnt it? FUCKING carnivores and FUCKING herbivores should SUCK DICK#I HATE HOW JOKER HE IS. HE COULD BE SUCH A GOOD CHARACTER. THE SMALL MOMENTS WHERE HE STOPS PRETENDING#AND ACTUALLY SHOWS HIS TRUE FEELINGS FOR ONCE ARE SO IMPORTANT TO ME. WE COULDVE HAD IT ALL!!!#AHHHHHHHH#I CAN FIX HIM. (lie)
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â ïžNEW EX- SPINDLEHORSE MEMBER - KENDRAWS SOUR EXPERIENCE WITH VIVZIEPOP DOCUMENT AND EVIDENCE. â ïž
SoâŠthis is a VERY big important post guys, so be alert and spread this as much as you can. You may know artist KenDraws, who was responsible for boarding on the Hazbin Hotel pilot, as well as WRITING too. Here is the links to the boards they did below:
Recently, I was given the opportunity to be handed a document they had created not that long ago, about their experience with Vivziepop, and why they and Viv arenât fond of one another anymore and donât work with one another. The document includes commentary by Ken themselves, and screenshots of conversations they and Viv had together. The timeline of the screenshots go from 2017, where Viv was developing the pilot, to 2020, where she was pitching the show, where Ken lists everything that Viv had done. Before I post the link, I want to show a message that Ken had said in the end, to why they made this document:
With that said, I ask that you PLEASE read all of this, to get the full context, and as I said, PLEASE share and spread this across the fandom and community. Here is the document link, all written by Ken.
DOCUMENT LINK: https://docdro.id/zyvFyCb
Do with this information as you will, but I ask that you spread this, so more people can see what kind of person Vivienne Medrano is, and more importantly, how something like this wonât happen again.
For now, I have no commentary, Iâll say my thoughts on my own posts, but for now I just want to get this out. PLEASE take the time to read it all, and please spread the message, and donât pester KenDraws. Thank you.
#vivziepop critical#spindlehorse critical#helluva boss critical#hazbin hotel critical#helluva boss critique#helluva boss criticism#anti vivziepop#helluva critical#Hazbin hotel#Vivziepop#vivienne medrano#vivzmind#vivziepop drama#helluva boss#vivziepop criticism#vivziepop critique#spindlehorse toons
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Makes me sad the way Mammon is treated
I think he's cute, I rlly like the idea of him being neurodivergent and needing stim toys, it's adorable (the way he's focused on spelling "cunt" with toy blocks is adorable u can't change my mind)
But I don't like the fact that his inability to focus was used as an insult... it felt insulting to ME as someone who needs stim toys to focus...
Along with the missed opportunity for a funny joke...
Maybe instead of Bee looking at at HIM with disgust as he devours food, it could be the opposite where the skinny character is stuffing her face with food grossly as Mammon, the fat character looks at her in disgust...
I also find it weird the way he's hitting on the envy demon (she's so forgettable I forgor her name đ) considering he's supposedly canonically ace??? It felt just as offputting as Frosty over here talks abt how "hot" his sister is considering he's supposed to be GAY(?????)
I want Mammon to not be the butt of all jokes, even the ones that insult a portion of the fandom who probably have a hard time with attention spans, whether it's the way you grew up or neurodivergency... it tells me a lot when I find out that this episode as written 3 YEARS AGO with NO REVISIONS...
Viv doesn't care and that makes me sad for this series and these characters with such wasted potentials :/
The whole series is a mess and it's sad because it had so much potential but Vivziepop shows that she doesn't give a shit about the series because if she did, she would improve her writing or accept criticism for it. Seeing Mammon (one of my favorite villains because he's australian like me lol) being reduced to simply fat jokes and hopelessly flirting. As for the Andrealphus thing, yeah it weirded me out seeing him calling his sister 'hot' despite him being canonically gay and NOT into women..
#vivziepop critical#helluva boss critical#helluva boss criticism#vivziepop#helluva boss#ask response
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episode 1 n 2 suck, theyre just generally super boring n stolas is one of the most unlikable characters ive ever seen? i would not mind if the show wasnt so insistent hes suddenly a cool guy, literally hed work perfectly if it wasnt constantly trying to convince you "we actually decided hes not bad anymore so feel bad for him" n his relationship w his daughter is also just.so bad.they want it to be "your dad fucks up sometimes" but literally weve had two episodes where shes in it at all n in both of them he fucks up so bad she runs off, it doesnt matter he was cute w her when she was a child octavias life is absolute misery bc both of her parents r insufferable get my girl OUT of there
episode 3 me n my friend watched by accident back when we were watching season 1 n its definitely miles better than the first two, ive noted this before but ignoring the super "eh" handling of SA in hazbin vivziepop is actually like.p good at depicting abuse.its uncomfortable in a "oh this is bad" way
episode 4 was.just a whole bunch of nothing.literally 20 minutes to establish nothing that cant be established in the future w a one liner.the definition of "what was any of that for".i dont even have anything to complain bc theres nothing worth the effort in it
episode 5 i will admit we skipped bc i commented i heard it was one of the most disliked ones n smth i heard abt second hand embarrassment humor in it n my friend Utterly Refused To Watch It so we just did a summary.if its actually a masterpiece of cinema im willing to take the blame for missing out for both of us
episode 6 was.actually i rly liked that one ! ignoring the insistence theres anything good between blitzo n stolas (bc yk.making a guy sleep w you so he wont lose his job n making unwanted advances for most of your screentime before the writer decided youre a good guy now is like.not an issue worth addressing if your childhood was sad n your wife hates you) it was just.it was nice it had heart blitzo n fizzs relationship was fun to watch improve n the action scenes had rly fun choreography, frankly not only the best helluva episode so far but also still one of the best episodes from HB n hazbin combined.just.i liked it! was such a good note to end our watch on
i had seen essentially everyone say the show loses its premise between seasons n yeah no it absolutely does.this isnt a show abt "smth happens while the funny demons r trying to kill someone" anymore its an intense romantic drama between two guys who should see the psychologist n stay 50 feet away from each other at all times n bc its so insistent that nooo its totally romantic !!! you dont even get like.some toxic yaoi tragedy stuff its just bad to watch
*lights up a cigarette* helluva season 2 is.i feel like im watching the rock bottom of the basement of the quality scale.
#i dont think i ever shared my thoughts on the first season uhhh#same feelings as hazbin tbh ?#first half is bad unfunny n uninteresting#second half is actually quite fun to watch but bc of the first i cant say i recommend it#specially knowing season 2 might as well be a different show#i like.fizzarolli was it.yeah hes dope ! alex brightman popped off as he naturally does#his character was just generally nice n written well good for him ! literally was in the best episode a vivziepop show has to offer#its no wonder !#i think stellas funny also just bc we both hate the same guy.like yeah i want stolas dead too get his ass girl ill cover for you#ultimately neither of them can beat out my girlfriend who i miss so dearly actually i should watch#that compilation of her scenes again.i miss my wife tails.i miss her a lot.#oh n they made a r slur joke during one of the episodes n it made me chuckle bc im literally the only person#affected by ableism who deals w that by enjoying it.like aww was that supposed to be insulting to me thats so cute#i might even giggle if you say it again !!! idk how to explain it i just enjoy stuff meant to insult me lmao.some crazy level of reclamatio#going on in my brain n GOD let my girlfriend say the r slur next hazbin season thatd be so godamn funny#im ASKING please let her i need to hear her say it its ok everyone i let her.shed still say it if i hadnt but thats gotta count for#smth right?
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Is it just me or Helluva boss feels like the creator just decides to forcefully mix some plots together into one helluva mess. Like it feels like there's multiple writers but they have lack of interaction with others so when the story written, it came out differently and putted into one.
Itâs funny you mention that because there are literally only three writers: Vivziepop, Brandon Rogers, and Adam Neylan. đ
If you look through the season 1 credits it was mainly Vivziepop and Brandon. Vivziepop admits like ages ago that she would go to Brandon for help and pitch ideas to him. During season 1, it would either be Vivziepop or Brandon writing the episodes separately. Or they would collaborate on a few season 1 episodes.
While Adam Neylan wasnât part of the writing team in season 1. He is in the special thanks if you look at the season 1 credits. For example:
Season 2 is basically where everything goes on fire. Adam Neylan is now a new writer for season 2, which he (by himself) wrote episode 2 (Seeing Stars), episode 3 (Exes and Oohs), episode 5 (Unhappy Campers).
As for the Helluva Boss Shorts Adam wrote short 2 (Antarctic) and 3 (Weaboo). Vivziepop only wrote short 4.
Brandon, however, has written only 1 episode which is âGhostfuckers.â
Then Vivziepop for season 2, she (by herself) wrote episode 1 (The Circus), episode 4 (Western Energy), episode 6 (Oops), episode 7 (MMMM season special feature fizz), episode 9 (Apology Tour), and episode 11 (Mastermind).
Episode 8: Full Moon is written by both Adam and Vivziepop
So, basically season 2 has been Vivziepop and Adam Neylan. Brandon is nowhere to be seen and it shows in the writing compared to season 1. I donât know what is happening in the Helluva Boss writing room, I wish I was a fly and looked around but whether Vivziepop likes it or not they need Brandon or at least hire more writers as help.
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Narrative: Handling Complicated Situations
I saw this Twitter thread about this particular scene from Spooky Month 6 and I really enjoy seeing people engaged in the discussion understand the grey areas and complexities in this scene and that no oneâs truly right or wrong. No one is going âHe was so mean to herâ.
Despite Father Gregorâs harsh words and his strict ideals, we as the audience know he comes from a good place. Heâs shown to genuinely want to help people and cares about the boys. We also know Lila loves her son and wants to protect him but the show isnât afraid to call her out on her faults. We see the consequences of the boysâ actions with the demon. Even then, we see their personal issues that we can sympathize with.
This also had me thinking about the Hellaverse (particularly HB) and how it often fails at presenting nuanced situations like Stolitz, Stolas and Stella, or Blitz and his sister, Barbie. Usually, they only show one characterâs perspective, expect you to sympathize with them, and frame the other character as one-dimensional so far. The only situation I can think of that was given some nuance was Stolas and Octaviaâs relationship in Looloo Land. However, after that episode the show stopped exploring Octavia as a character and wanted to give Stolas more sympathy.
Father Gregor couldâve easily been made into a one-note character, given his brief appearance in the last Spooky Month, but the show decided not to do that. They put effort into giving depth to almost all the characters. Donât mean to sound cliche but if Father Gregor was written by Vivziepop or in HH/HB, he would be this one-dimensional, judgmental, self righteous character youâre meant to hate (pretty much Lute). He wouldâve called Lila a bad mother instead of irresponsible so the audience can easily side with Lila.
Both of these are indie cartoons. The difference is one allows characters to be flawed/human while the other is more concerned with the audience liking certain characters.
#vivziepop critical#vivziepop criticism#helluva boss critical#spindlehorse critical#helluva boss criticism#helluva boss critique#spindlehorse criticism#hazbin hotel critical#hazbin hotel critique#hazbin hotel criticism#spooky month
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