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💭🔮 MALADAPTIVE DAYDREAMING || MASTERLIST 🔮💭
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Yes! Multiple actually:
Factpara: para based on a real person
Verisipara [source]: mix of fictpara & factpara
Allepara [source]: mix of factpara & primpara
Of course, you don't have to use these terms and you're free to either lump them under other terms or make up your own if you'd like!
i know we got para terms like fictpara and primpara but is there a term for a para that is both fictional and real? (e.g. a biopic, video game/movie that heavily fictionalizes historical figures, etc) or do we just lump those paras under whichever term fits them best to us lmao
#maladaptive daydreaming#immersive daydreaming#reply#madd terminology#the excitement i get when i see people asking about madd terminology is unreal lol
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Actually curious about your take on this. I have been bothered by MUD because I feel like it is the antithesis of antipsychiatric thinking, where disorders are coined based on new patterns of behavior to be pathologized -- and this pathologization is glorified, like in the case of the most popular one (fantasy personality disorder) taking what seems to be benign, if not normal, traits or traits of other conditions like MADD and explaining them in the frameworks of symptoms of a disorder as if it's a DSM entry... Many of these coiners don't seem to have a real understanding of how psychiatry works as a social system rather than a fun hobby. That's how I've been conceiving of it but I admit I really haven't looked into it too much (I think the tag "mud" is banned on Tumblr for unrelated reasons) so I'm curious to see if you all can help me understand it better?
Actually I think your observation/ critique is a very valid one. I do think many of the people participating in the coining of MUD (medically unrecognized disorders, for those out of the loop), are fundamentally upholding the structure of the psychiatric industry in the sense that they find new ways to pathologize human behavior.
However, we don't necessarily condemn MUD as a concept or community. We think that many folks in it are people who have been done harm or neglected by psychiatry, which is what has led them to coining new terms in the first place. I really doubt that someone who would identify as having Fantasy Personality Disorder, isn't genuinely struggling in some way that they feel isn't adequately addressed by whatever frameworks are currently avaliable.
We sympathize with that. Despite ourselves being heavily antipsych, we still strongly identify with the term DID because we feel it adequately labels our struggles with dissociation. For one reason or another, these individuals feel that in some way, the psychiatric industry has failed them. And their response to that is to create new terms within a similar framework to make up for those gaps.
We think that even in a hypothetical post-psychiatry world, people will still likely come up with terms to describe clusters of behaviors. If the term DID didn't exist, we'd likely try to come up with something to describe our struggles, because terms like "disordered plurality" don't cut it for us personally. There is an undeniable usefulness in being able to put a word on your experiences, even at risk of being reductive.
So overall, while I do agree that the MUD community has some issues with continuing the same patterns of pathologization. I think that it stems from the same issues that antipsych thinking does - that they've been failed and neglected psychiatry. I think they've simply chosen a different direction for how they respond to it.
In a way, one could consider the community based coining of new diagnostic labels as a criticism in and of itself. In the way it makes a parody of the supposed scientific, peer reviewed construction of diagnostic terms. It forces one to question what makes an "official" diagnostic label legitimate, as opposed to a MUD term. To us, turning it in a social activity is actually much closer to what we'd want to see in a post-psychiatry world. Where the creation of new mental health terminology falls to the community and the people experiencing it, as opposed to the hands of a beauracracy.
We do hope that those in the community read up more on antipsychiatry, and stray away from intentionally trying to copy the format and rhetoric of diagnostic manuals. I think they do this in an attempt to seem convincing in their legitimacy, but as you said it does unfortunately recreate some of the same problems that the current psychiatry industry has.
We think there's a lot of potential here for opening up questioning of psychiatry and pathologization in general, but there's a lot of work to be done for sure.
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🔮💫 TERMINOLOGY 💫🔮
Words & terms that we resonate with or best describe our experiences. Note that madd/id/daydreaming heavily influences how we experience things.
Dreamway System: A dreamway system is a type of gateway system. The primary distinctive aspect of such a system is its particular structure; possible worlds to be accessed are comprised of daydreams and paracosm.
Median System: A median system is a system where members are not as distinct or separate from each other. It can be considered being somewhere between multiple and singlet.
Imagian: An imagian is someone that feels that their imaginary friends make them feel plural and/or make them plural. The imaginary friends in question may also be referred to as imagi or imagimate.
Imaginagenic: Imaginagenic is a system origin where a system forms from either imagination play or roleplaying.
Soulbond: A soulbond is, broadly, a member of a system or a presence in someone's mind that is based on a character or real individual.
Paragenic: The term paragenic describes a system's or headmate's origin as having been caused or influenced by Maladaptive Daydreaming Disorder, neuronarration, immersive daydreaming, or other similar neurodivergencies.
Cogisian: Cogisian is a term that describes member of a system who feels like they’re in-between being a headmate and an imaginary friend.
#plurality#dreamway system#imagian#imaginagenic#paragenic#cogisian#* kristal / general#* kristal / journal#terminology#median system#soulbond
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You might want to look into Immersive Daydreaming. It's MaDD but without the negative effects and sounds like what you're describing here.
DayD Coining Post
now, im a little new to the coining scene, so if somebodys already created a simalar term please let me know! im just trying to fill a niche that ive been looking for :)
DayD-
DayD is a term/label for those who experience/engage with vivid daydreams. This term is meant to be an alternative from maladaptive Daydream Disorder, as somebody who uses the term DayD engages in it as a casual thing and not as a coping mechanism! this term could apply to writters who experience their worlds before they write them, storytellers, post recovery MADD, systems who see this label as useful for their headspace/ alters, etc!
This is Not a MADD label!!! While daydreaming seems like a good way to comfort yourself, using it to cope can cause severe mental issues such as depression. Engage safely!!!
no DNI :)
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💭🔮 MALADAPTIVE DAYDREAMING || COMMON TERMINOLOGY 🔮💭
ultimate daydreamer's guide • other madd info posts • masterlist || Every so often I see a newcomer a little confused by the terminology the Daydreaming Community tends to use, which is fair — we've made up a lot of words! This post is gonna explain the most common ones.
Para: A daydream character. This can be an OC, Canon Character (ex: Tony Stark), or a Real Person (ex: Gerard Way). Paras may also be referred to as "OCs" or "Characters".
Veritbond: A very special type of para. The definition is vague in order to encompass a variety of experiences: A para that the daydreamer has a deep emotional connection to / A para that is on some level “sentient��� or otherwise aware that they’re a para / A para that is autonomous on some level.
Parame: Main Character of your daydreams, the para you daydream through. You can have more than one. Often gets confused with Paraself.
Paraself: The self insert of the Daydreamer. Not all Daydreamers have one, and that’s totally normal. Often gets confused with “parame”, as people often make themselves the Main Character. Not always, of course.
Paracosm: A detailed imaginary world, can be about literally anything. Despite it being claimed by the Daydreaming Community, "paracosm" is an actual word that technically anyone can use if they wish.
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this is more of a question from someone who is 99 percent sure they have MADD- is the character that i can see watching me all the time (and cant get rid of them) a para?
my other question is that- i'm always daydreaming and seeing myself in a different world (i have two main ones that are based off of books ive read) and each one contains one of the two characters that i can see watching me (they alternate on the day) (i think theyre called paras??), are those paracosms? this is mostly just ab the terminology- im a bit rough on the terms and i wanted to check!! apologies if this makes no sense, i havent slept in like 24 hours!!
Nah you're alright hun. I do want to specify that even though we've had MADD since at least 9 years old (probably earlier) we're very new to learning all the ins and outs of it all. We are also not a therapist so if you have the ability to see one, I would recommend that as well.
For the terms, paracosms are characters. They are characters that live in the daydreams.
These differ to system alters as paras don't control the body at all. Alters forming are also outside of the child's control and are there to protect them.
They also differ to hallucinations as they don't show up in the real world, and we don't see or hear them and we know they aren't real. They can't interact with the real world at all.
The main question I have about the first question is: Are you able to see them in your head, or are they seen in the outerworld? From what I've experienced and heard, paras don't typically know they're paras and don't typically "watch" you.
The second question I have is: Are they able to see what you see? As in, do they comment on what's happening in the real world?
I'm not going to say if they're paracosms or not, because a. I don't live in your head and b. This doesn't sound like a daydream I've experienced. If someone else could provide some insight that would also be appreciated.
Also please get some sleep.
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Hello! I’m new to the Endo system terms, and I just have questions?
(If this ask is rude in any way please void it)
What’s the difference between endogenic systems and Willow-systems?
Is a median-system (monoconcious) strictly endo? (That’s the label that matches me and my facets, but I’m not an endogenic system and don’t wanna accidentally use it wrong)
And are dreamaway systems considered endogenic? (Dreamaway systems formed from like Maladaptive daydreaming or MaDDs)
Thank y’all for y’all’s time!!!
Hi! We might not be the best people to ask as we're not an endo system but I can explain it to the best of my understanding and if I get anything wrong then hopefully an endo system can correct me.
As far as I know, the difference between endogenic and willogenic is that endogenic is a more general term for anyone whose plurality isn't caused by trauma, whereas willogenic systems are created on purpose.
Neither median nor monoconsious are specific to endogenic systems, there are just different kinds of systems with varying levels of amnesia, varying levels of differentiation, varying levels of feeling separate etc. and you absolutely don't have to label yourself/selves if you don't want to, some systems just find it helpful, but yes a traumagenic system can absolutely be median or monoconsious.
I don't know much about MaDD so you may be better off asking someone who has it, but I'd imagine it varies depending on the system. It sounds like having MaDD is probably an inherently traumatic experience for some people so they may wish to consider their system to be traumagenic, or some may prefer like paragenic/parative terminology (??) I think that's right? I don't wanna leave the app and Google it in case Tumblr eats this ask
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Hi, we're a plural system with partially paragenic origins. We've had MaDD/Immersive Daydreaming our entire lives. MaDD/ID has definitely had a huge impact on our plurality and the formation of some of our headmates.
We're not sure if there's a huge community of paragenic systems online, but we have definitely seen a few. You all are welcome to use whatever terms you're all comfortable with, but we figured we'd share some of the paragenic terminology we've discovered on our journey to help your search.
Related to Daydreaming:
https://pluralpedia.org/w/Category:Daydreaming-Related_Terms
We'd recommend looking up specifically
Prevera, Paragenic, Parative, veritbond, Araisagenic Systems
Related to Imaginary friends:
imaginagenic, imagitive
It's unfortunate and frustrating that the term 'para' means more than just a character from a Paracosm, especially on Tumblr, but perhaps these additional terms could help with connecting to the right group.
Ignore the haters. Your system is valid and real. There's a lot of support out there, you're not alone.
-the Dream-Spared System
Thank you so much for your kindness and sharing your research. I will take a look at it. We also have another blog specifically for the paragenic side of my person’s system. It is @auraindigos-paraspace . Give that one a follow as well. I have really came into my own recently, at least in the past month. She has accepted me back as best as she could. It can still be hard since she is an adult in her 30s and imaginary friends are unfortunately not as accepted when one is an adult even if I did not come into being until she was around 18-19 years old. Anyways, I do feel like I am an imaginary friend tulpa even though the mean people and haters can be discouraging many times.
#imaginary friend#tulpa#madd paras#madd para#plurality#plural#endogenic#endogenic friendly#endogenic plurality#endo safe#endogenic safe#pro endogenic#pro endo#endo system#endogenic system#endo friendly#endogenic supporter#anti endo dni#ask answered#thank you
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You may want to put in your bio or pinned post what a para actually is. I assumed you were referring to a paraphilia (this word is currently most often used online as a euphemism for pedophilia/necrophilia; some people do shorten that word to “para”) and almost blocked you on sight.
I understand what you're saying but my blog title says I'm a MaDD account. Para only has one meaning in relation to MaDD. It's not my job to defend terminology to people outside the community I post for
If someone blocks me for misunderstanding bc they aren't in the community that isn't my problem
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It's so difficult to write about things you just casually are, so you have to be in a constant state of self-discovery and gaining infinite new insight.
Luckily for you peeps though, I& do have some insight.
I& discovered the term xenreve (an alterhuman identity influenced by MaDD/neuronarration), which tbh I&'m sure I&'ve heard before but forgotten. Unfortunately it doesn't change anything and is no revelation, as I&'ve been thinking these thoughts for a while now on how "fictionkin" and even "fictionlink" doesn't quite cut it. Hell, I&'ve been aware of the nature of my& identity since the start of this blog, hence the note in the pinned about it.
My& problem is that terminology in this case is useless to me& unless everybody I& talk to understands what I&'m talking about. But when I& try to use terminology that is far more popular, I& start fitting my& experiences into what I& say. I&'m like half certain I&'ve probably already talked about this but I& won't bother checking my& blog.
This is why discovering any pre-existing terms with 3 google results total doesn't exactly evoke any reaction beyond "hey, neat".
Trying to fit my& experience into a purely daydreamer narrative is hard too - despite my& suspiscion being that it's one of the most common experiences out there, immersive daydreaming is extremely niche, somehow even more niche than maladaptive, and this all being a voluntary choice for me& is important. I& like the emphasis on my& self agency. You can't gatekeep a choice.
But most daydreaming stuff very rarely focuses on how much you become your parames. How seeing the art of you evokes not just a "hey, I& have some ties to that character" but a direct "that is me&, a drawing of my& direct experiences". How little it talks about the fact that you literally live through everything that happens in your daydreams, on an emotional level. How that can impact you outside of the paracosm sometimes.
So, a mix of the two would have been the perfect place for me& to go to, only issue being it's empty there.
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﹛♛﹜Welcome to my blog!
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Hello! This is my sub blog for all things related to my paras and paracosms. I have MaDD or Maladaptive Daydreaming disorder. A very simplified explanation of this disorder for people who haven't heard of it before is; I am addicted to daydreaming.
Disclaimer: I don't have full control over what I daydream about. If you think some of my paras/parames are "cringe" then leave. Also, there will be some triggering topics mentioned in some of my posts and I will tag them accordingly. I tend to have dark daydreams, but they do not reflect my beliefs or character irl. Don't steal my paras because I'm very attached to them. Fan art is accepted though! Also, this obviously only applies to my ocs, not paras that are someone else's character. I'm also pro xenogenders, trans rights, queer rights in general. If you don't like that then leave.
‧͙⁺˚*・༓☾ About me☽༓・*˚⁺‧͙
Name- Soiree, Ambrose
Age- adult
Pronouns- ae/aer and they/them
Gender- Nonbinary
Sexuality- Queer
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Ishtar's Gate AU (Gravity Falls genderbend au)- #IG_Paracosm (redirecting posts to @ishtars-gate-au )
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Hey, what are paracosms? Google gives me stuff about kids and I dont wanna get a skewed view of it
heyo! tbf, the first thing that came up (if we got the same result) isn't too far off, paracosms are imaginary worlds, they're just not limited to kids. they're not exactly limited to people with MaDD (maladaptive daydreaming disorder) either, but it's commonly used terminology. basically it's the world people daydream in, they can be really developed in people with MaDD and like have their own history, rules, customs, culture, ect.
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SORRY to barge in but "fictpara" & "primpara" were actually coined by @spherearc [source]
Fictoparative culture is being your source and wanting to be treated like your source while also being so much more than your source, being more expansive and multifaceted with all the maladaptive daydreaming we did before I formed.
~Dabi 🦋 from @seraphim-collective
SO valid and sooo relatable. fictparative struggles frfr
:P (required sign off)
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Alright who let me into the madd tag on tumblr (it was me, I let myself into it) (I knew I had this shit for years but now I can actually use terminology to describe my weirdass problems)
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one of the links in my doc is dead. does anyone have the post that coined "paraetin"? according to my doc it's "Systems whose functions are affected by their daydreams". the source used to link back to my blog but for some reason it looks like the post just disappeared. not sure what happened there.
side note: i did find "paratien", a "system that’s headspace is fused or the same as their paracosm/day dream world (or one of/multiple of their paracosms)". due to the similar definitions I'm not sure if I made a typo or if it's just a case of similarly coined terms.
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