#like. obviously this is just a me issue about being over-sensitive (and probably needing therapy or smthn)
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Is there like. a CW tag people use for posts that are like "if you do xyz I'm committing acts of extreme violence on you / you should explode"? Cus I often feel kinda icky about interacting with those posts and I'd like to at least be able to tag it for other people who might be more significant effected by it to filter if I ever want to reblog one of them
#like they often have good points that I want to agree with and reblog#but I'm also not convinced that a lot of my morality anxiety isn't a build up of seeing those sort of thing#like. obviously this is just a me issue about being over-sensitive (and probably needing therapy or smthn)#but I think it subconsciously makes me think that if I ever fail at being a perfect being with flawless morals and no internalized biases#then I clearly *deserve* to be murdered in my sleep because why else would everyone be saying it?#which freaking sucks but idk how to get rid of it so#just gotta work around it for now until I get get my brain held together with something stronger than paperclips and scotch tape#is this moral scrupulosity? or some kind of ocd thing?#just me rambling
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My Heart Needed You Part 11
AN: this chapter starts out sweet but was very hard to write, obviously I had in mind her story but writing it was sad and Iâve basically gone back and forth if I should change it - TW below. @lexondeck had the amazing idea to bring our friends of Charming back. I hope you all like this chapter, but please read with caution and I hope this doesnât offend or hurt anyone.
Warnings: consensual sex, angst, talk of abuse and sexual assault, miscarriage. Under 18 please do not read.
Tag List: @lexondeck @redpoodlern @nessamc @withmyteeth @chibsytelford @thegirlwhowritesfics
With everything that has happened the last few weeks, the drug run gone wrong, Christobal being taken, the hunt for who took him, and having to see the gruesome side of what Nestor does for Migue, your house, deciding to live with Nes until itâs done. Needing a break was an understatement.
Nestor had been so open and honest with you about how he ended up being who he was for Miguel, and you couldnât help but feel guilty that you havenât been as equally as honest with him.
You just werenât sure how to tell him, or if you should tell him everything. You were grateful to have a few days away and miles between the two of you so you could get your thoughts in order. Wendy had called a few weeks ago saying she and Nero were having a small party for Abelâs birthday. Inviting you, Chibs, Hap, and Tig and Venus - but with rules of no club talk and no kuttes.
âAre you sure you donât want me to drive you?â Nestor snakes his arms around your waist as you zip up your small weekend bag.
You grab his hands, lacing your fingers with his and he places a kiss to your neck. âItâs just a few hours, Iâll be there for 2 days and Iâll come right back.â He hummed in response now leaving a trail of kisses over your neck.
âHow long until you leave?â He says as he pulls his hands from yours and moves them under your shirt to rest on your stomach.
âMmm, probably an hour,â Moving to face him you wrap your arms around his neck and his move to your hips, as the two of you start aimlessly swaying,âDo you have something we need to do before I leave?â Your fingers are tracing lightly on the back and side of his neck.
âI can think of a few things,â he whispers in your ear as his hands make their way to your thighs lifting you into his arms causing you to squeal at the quick movements.
Your lips meet in a desperate kiss, your hands holding him to you. He lays you down, moving quickly to pull your shorts and underwear down while you pull off your shirt and bra, you move to your knees grabbing his belt and pulling him to you. As quickly as you can you are undoing his belt and pants, pushing them down as he pulls his shirt over his head.
He pushes you back and moves over you, lips meeting in a slower, greedy kiss. Your hands are roaming his back, lightly scratching with your nails, as one of his makes its way between your legs, immediately finding your clit. You gasp and let your head fall back.
He kisses from your lips, to your jaw, down your neck and landing on your chest where he bites and sucks leaving marks only the two of you will see, all while he works you with his skilled fingers. You are clinging tightly to his shoulders, âdonât stop, please Nes.â
His hand moves fast as he leaves open mouth kisses to your neck, âcum for me, baby.â With that you are thrown over the edge. Gasping and moaning his name, and your nails dig into his skin.
Before your breathing even settles he moves his body between your legs and pushes himself into you. His moan in your ear has you squeezing him tightly. âYou are perfect, Hails.â He moans as he slowly thrust in and out.
While you love slow and gentle Nestor, right now you need more. âHarder Nes,â you gasp out as your hands move to his ass pulling him into you further. He gladly obliges and with one arm wrapped above your head holding you in place, his other hand on your cheek, and his face in your neck he thrusts into you hard and at a punishing pace. In no time you are chanting his name, gasps and grunts filling the room.
His hand that was on your cheek finds its way to your clit, roughly rubbing and circling, and before you can get any words out you clench around him tightly and cum again.
He pulls out of you and between breaths says, âroll over, Hails.â Heâs quickly moving to help you and position you how he wants you. So youâre on your knees, chest and face pushed into a pillow and he quickly enters you again. He grabs your hands, lacing your fingers and he leans fully over you, his body completely covering you, and moves faster chasing his own release causing you to head towards another. You are so sensitive, you need him to cum so you start pushing yourself back to meet his hips. âCum for me, Nes, I need you to cum for me, please fill me up,â you beg him as you are gasping and moaning, squeezing his hands tightly. After a few more rough thrusts you are both over the edge and Nestor is filling you up.
âFuck,â he said as he pulls out and rolls over next to you. âNow you should be feeling me everytime you walk while youâre gone.â He flashes a big, cocky grin as you roll your eyes still trying to catch your breath.
âIâm getting a shower, you are not welcome because I need to be fast.â Pecking his lips, âIâm going to be late and you and those hands will make me even later.â
Heâs chuckling as you pull yourself from his arms and slowly walk on wobbly legs to the dresser pulling out fresh underwear. As you walk into the bathroom you look over your shoulder and see Nestor in all his glory watching you with a look of love on his face with his hands resting behind his head.
You quickly wash your hair and while you're rinsing the conditioner you are hit with cold air. You open your eyes and see Nestor sneaking in with a guilty but not sorry smile you couldnât help but giggle at the sight of him. He quickly moved to you and wrapped his arms around your waist, hands resting on your butt.
âIâm going to miss you,â he said softly as you were twirling the ends of his hair with your fingers.
âIâll miss you too, but Iâll be back first thing Monday.â You assured him, reaching up and leaving a soft kiss to his lips.
He moves his hands up holding the sides of your neck deepening the kiss, and you both stand there under the shower spray holding each other.
The water starts to get cold and you know itâs time to get on the road so you arenât late. âI have to go, Nes.â Squeezing you tighter he nodded leaving a sweet kiss to your lips. âYou get dressed and Iâll get your bags,â he gave you another squeeze.
He gets out of the shower first wrapping a towel low on his waist, and then holds his hands out to help you and quickly wraps you in a towel. Kissing your cheek he heads to the bedroom. Technically this one was his but in the last week youâve moved fully into it, but youâll be going to stay at his house until yours is ready. You got the house on the beach,and immediately hired a contractor to make all the updates and changes you want. It should be ready in no time and you couldnât wait.
You braid your hair in two braids, mirroring Nestorâs daily look, and get dressed. As you headed down the stairs you stopped by to let Miguel know you were leaving and you made sure to give Emily a hug. Letting them both know you could come back early if they needed you.
When you get to the door Nestor is there with a large cold coffee and he had your bags in your car.
âDrive careful, Hails. And let me know when you get there okay?â He says as he gives you a tight hug, you nod wrapping your arms around his waist and resting your chin on his chest.
He grabs your hand and walks you to your car, opening your door for you. But before you get in you turn and take a hold of his face to give him one more kiss. âI love you!â
He smiles, one that met his eyes and always melted your heart. âI love you too. Have fun with your boys!â
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The drive to Norco has taken a few hours, but it has been smooth and you got there before anyone from Charming. When you pull in you see Wendy and Nero on the porch and the boys swinging in the yard.
As you open your car door you hear the sweetest sound and tears come to your eyes as both boys scream for their aunt Hailey.
They rush to you and you to them, grabbing them both up in a big hug. âIâve missed you boys so much!â These hugs were exactly what you needed.
You put the boys back down and made your way to Wendy and Nero, giving each a long hug.
âHow was your drive?â Nero asked as he let you go.
âGreat, I left early so traffic wasn't too bad, a little slow in San Diego but thatâs all.â
He grabs your bags from the car and puts them inside for you, and heads back to the boys, while you and Wendy go to the kitchen. âIâm so glad you could come, Iâve missed you.â Wendy says as she gets you a drink.
âMe too, Iâve missed you and those boys, even Nero.â You chuckle.
âHow are the boys doing?â You want to make sure they are doing well here. âAnything you need?â
âThe first couple of weeks were rough, lots of tears and I guess you could call it anger. But I have Abel in therapy and that has really helped him a lot, Thomas transitioned with no issues.â She looks at you giving a small smile, âweâre doing really well. I couldnât have done it without you taking care of literally everything.â
You nod. âIt was all worth it knowing they are okay and thriving. This is what Jax wanted, for them to have a normal life without all that the club brings.â
Before the conversation went further another vehicle pulled up, and you could hear the boys screaming. You and Wendy gave each other big smiles as you got up and headed out.
âAye there is our girl!â You heard from Chibs, you practically skipped off the porch and over to him where he immediately engulfed in a hug. âI miss ye darlin.â
âI miss you too!â Next came Happy, the man maybe quiet but when you lived in Charming he quickly became your favorite Son but you wouldnât tell the others that.
âHey Hap,â you mumbled as he squeezed you a little too tight.
Then you were lifted off the ground by Tig, âoh Iâve missed you, Hailey girl!â
âI missed you too, Tiggy!â You said as you squeezed his neck.
When he set you down, Venus took over and hugged you tightly. âOh honey, weâve truly miss you so much!â
âIâve miss yâall too!â
Once all of the hugs and greetings were done you texted Nestor letting him know you made it, and then everyone went and sat out in the back deck. The boys played, Nero grilled, and we all chatted. It was such a fun night and Abel had the best time with his aunts and uncles, opening gifts. As the sun went down all the boys were outside running around and the sound of giggles filled the air. You, Wendy and Venus were inside cleaning up the kitchen.
âSo, Hailey, how has it been being closer to home?â Venus asks as she starts drying dishes
âYeah, how has it been? Nero told me that there may be a man in your life.â She turned away from the sink looking at you with a smirk.
âHow does he know?!â You ask a little more shocked than you intended.
Chuckling Wendy says, âMarcus called him a few weeks ago and may have mentioned it.â
âItâs a long story, but heâs actually my ex-fiancĂŠ. We had always been best friends out while lives, our moms were best friends, and then as we got older we just becameâŚmore. By the time we were 17 we were all in. He was everything to me, my first and only, I mean he was it for me. Weâre trying to rebuild now and itâs going really well.â You smile.
âSo what changed, Hailey, why is he an ex-fiancĂŠ? Because you clearly still love him with that look on your face.â Venus points out.
âIâve loved him my whole life, I canât remember a time where he wasnât by my side. He was a SEAL, and I was in law school. We bought a fixer upper house between home and San Diego. Almost every week we went to a beach restaurant and walked the beach after, he would reluctantly go dancing with me.â At that you all giggle. âJust before his last deployment he took me to the beach and proposed, obviously I said yes. He left about a month later, and it was justâŚâ you pause, trying to keep your emotions at bay. âIt was just really hard and some things happened while he was gone that I couldnât tell him about, or anyone really. His brother knew and he helped me but I couldnât face Nes, so I ran when he got home. Thatâs how I ended up in Charming, actuallyâ you chuckle, âGemma figured it all out, sheâs one of the only people who ever knew. She read me like a damn book.â Taking a deep breath and wiping the tears from your cheeks you continue. âI hadnât actually seen him in 5 years since his brother's funeral, and honestly, that didnât go so well. He said some things out of anger and grief that hurt, so I didnât go back after that.â
The three of you make your way to the dining room table with the tea Wendy made. âSo, how did the reunion happen and go from not speaking to this?â Wendy asked.
âWhen Jax died and you all moved away I had told my parents that I didnât know if I wanted to stay in Charming. Doing everything I did for Jax leading up to his death was a lot, and it hurt. I still work for the club and some others, but I just couldnât be there anymore.â
Your hands are fidgeting with the mug in front of you. âMy parents had gone to dinner at the Galindos and told them what was going on. Miguel needed an attorney that was fully on staff with him, and his accountant was subpar. Since Iâm qualified for both he made an offer that just felt right, Iâve missed home. So when we got there Miguel and Nestor picked me up, and I just broke down, finally letting out the emotions of the last couple of months. For the first few weeks we kind of avoided each other, things were tense.â
Taking a sip of your tea, they both ask, âthen what happened?â
You chuckle at their impatience, âhonestly we got in a big fight, he wants answers to why I left and I just canât tell him. So I stood my ground and he said things he shouldnât have, it was kind of a blowup.â
âHailey, why canât you tell him?â Venus was watching your face, and you could tell she knew that what you were keeping wasnât something small.
You look up at her, and since the first time you met her you felt safe in her presence. Moving your eyes to the table you whisper, âI feel ashamed, embarrassed, like I failed him.â
âHails, baby, what happened to you?â Venus is looking at you with a mix of love and concern. âYou can tell us.â
You shake your head, âI still havenât even told Nes. After the fight he agreed that he wonât ask me again, and that when Iâm ready heâll be ready. But the weekend after that fight there was a party for business associates, and Nestor and I just, I donât know, reconnected. We spent that night together and thatâs it.â
âAre you going to tell him?â Wendy asks quietly.
âI canât,â you look at her sadly. âI just know it will hurt him, and Iâm afraid of what he will do.â
âWhat happened, Hailey?â Venus is now looking at you with a more serious look, âbaby, did someone hurt you while he was gone?â
You canât look in their eyes, you just nod.
âYou can talk to us, Hailey. Clearly whatever it was is still hurting you. Donât carry this alone.â Wendy grabs your hand, squeezing it trying to encourage you.
Not moving your eyes from the table, âSince I was a teenager, I had worked for Miguelâs dad doing financial stuff. Numbers were easy and my dad was his lawyer, so he trusted me. During law school I would go down once a month or so and meet with him in person. Iâve always been a little afraid of him, I know what he is capable of.â You take in a shaky breath.
âI usually always had Nestor with me or even my dad, but when Nestor deployed my dad was working a big case with his law firm so I had to go alone. A lot was going on with the Galindos then so Jose wasâŚon edge. More ruthless than ever.â You peek up at them and they both give you a reassuring look. âNestor had been gone for about nine months, and honestly I was struggling. We didnât talk much, I felt so alone. I was planning a wedding, finishing our house projects, nearing the end of law school. I was so lonely and stressed beyond measure, and I think I kind of let my guard down. So I went to Mexico and Miguel and his mom werenât there, that should have been a red flag for me. But Devante, Joseâs second in command, pushed for me to come so one of Joseâs men came and picked me up, which was normal so I didnât question it.â
You pause for a few seconds, taking a drink of your now cold tea. âWhen I went there I just got a terrible gut feeling. I walked into the house and I could hear Jose losing it in his office. Once I got down there his anger was right on me. The cartel wasnât doing well, another cartel had come up and they were taking ground, and money.â
You are dreading telling this, but itâs been years since you've gotten to let this out and truly the only other person who you told everything too was Niko.
âJose grabbed me and he just started screaming at me, saying awful things like how stupid I was, that I was ruining him, Iâm a whore, endlessly berating me. I could smell the alcohol on him. While he was screaming he started hitting me, he busted my lip, gave me a black eye, bloodied my nose. When he was done I was covered in bruises, and I learned quickly that he wasnât done. He shoved me into his desk and he pulled my clothes offâŚhe forced himself on me and at that point I had no fight left in me.â Tears were streaming down your face as you look up, and Venus and Wendy both were wiping tears from their eyes.
âDevante cleaned me up, and the next day he brought me to Jose. And again Jose forced himself on me but this time Devante made sure to threaten me telling me to look like I was enjoying it because he was taking photos. That if I told anyone he would prove I was lying with those and use it as blackmail to control me, and that he would kill my family, and Nes. I believed him because I knew what he did for Jose, and truthfully I would have done anything and agreed to anything in that moment for it to be over so I could go home.â You wipe your nose with your hand and take a deep breath. âOnce he was done, Devante told me to call someone to come get me and they just left. I called the one other person besides Nestor who I knew would protect me at all costs, his brother. So he came down and it took everything I had to keep him from doing something stupid. I begged him to just take me back to California.â
âSo you never told your parents?â Wendy asked.
Shaking your head, âno, I believed his threat and I knew Niko wouldnât betray my request to not tell anyone. He took me to his place in San Diego and cleaned me up as best he could. I stayed there until the bruises on my face faded and I felt like I could be at my house alone. Since I didnât tell anyone, every month I still went to Mexico, I made sure to always have Niko with me so I could come and leave immediately. Before Nestor left I stopped birth control because we wanted a baby when he came home so I just decided to stop it.â The tears are pouring from your eyes now, you can hardly see. âI got pregnant.â You whisper barely loud enough for them to hear. âI took a pregnancy test at the office one day because I panicked, not even thinking that I had to go to Mexico that day alone. The test was in my bag and somehow Jose and Devante found it. Then all hell broke loose. Jose just started hitting me until I was on the ground and he kept kicking me, telling me he was making sure there was no evidence, no proof.â
They both gasp and reach for your hands. âBaby, Iâm so sorry.â Venusâ voice broke as she spoke.
âWhen he was done I got to my car and I just kept driving until I got to Nikos house. He met me at the door and I passed out. By the time he got me to the hospital I lost the baby. I had to actually have a procedure done to basically help it all along because my body was struggling. This was five days before Nestor came back. I couldnât face him, I felt so terrible, so dirty.â
âDid Niko know you were leaving?â Venus asked as she rubbed the back of my hand.
âHe did, when I told Nestor I was leaving I went right to Nikos house and he helped me move to Charming.â
âHad you not talked to Nestor during any of this?â
âNot much, it was the least we talked during any deployment, so I was already having a really hard time and then with everything else I was a shell of myself. I think Niko could see how hurt I was from not hearing from Nestor, and he was mad at him for shutting me out. Thatâs why he was so willing to help me leave I think. Before Nes came home I packed my stuff, and when he got to the house I gave him my key and ring and I left.â
âHailey, how have you carried this? And you still havenât told your parents? Or Nestor? Did Jax know?â Wendy got out between sniffles.
âGemma and Niko knew the most, Jax knew pieces, but thatâs it. Nestor knows I was hurt he figured that out in our fight, but he wants to know everything I just canât tell him. I canât lose him when he knows the truth.â Your tears are back at the thought of not having him.
âBut Hailey, he deserves the truth. He clearly loves you, neither of you moved on with another relationship in all those years, and clearly keeping this inside is hurting you. Donât let what Jose did ruin your future. Because baby, when you let the past dictate the now and the future, you only ever get to live in the past.â Venus told you as she stood up and envelopes you in a motherly hug.`Thank you for trusting us with this.â
âWe are always going to be your family, Hailey. Weâre here anytime you need us.â Wendy said as she joins the embrace. As you were all pulling yourselves together the boys came barreling in and Wendy sent them straight to the bath, while you got yourself ready for movies on the couch which was a request of both boys.
You all piled in the living room, Abel was on your right side tucked under your arm holding your hand tightly, while Thomas climbed right in your lap. The three of you cuddled up and before too long were all asleep. What you didnât know was that Nero snapped a picture of the three of you, and sent it to Marcus who happened to be with Miguel and Nestor.
Seeing you cuddling with your boys made Nestorâs pulse quicken, and let him imagine coming home to that view. Miguel gave his friend a knowing look, a smile on both of their faces. âYouâve gotten a second chance brother, take advantage of it.â
âI plan on it, Mikey.â Nestor said confidently.
He couldnât wait for you to be home tomorrow night and moving back into the house even if it was just until your new house was ready.
#nestor oceteva#mayans mc#nestor oceteva x hailey teller#mayans mc imagine#nestor oceteva x oc#hailey teller#venus van dam#tig trager#chibs telford#happy lowman#nero padilla#soa#my heart needed you#mayans mc x reader#nestor oceteva imagine#mayans mc imagines
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ALSO CAN I ASK FOR SOME RANDOM GOM HCS U HAVE? like just random ones u have or if u want like some toxic hcs abt them :D
Iâm assuming that I can include their negative traits of their personalities as well đ Also including Momoi in thisâŚÂ lots of analyzing for this hc, so I used my brain here pls appreciate AGAIN these are all headcanons/interpretations of possible toxic hcs about them and only a few are canon
[Headcanons]
Kuroko Tetsuya
Kuroko is the hardest person to find a ânegative/toxicâ trait in, and it doesnât seem like he has any
kind, understanding, hardworking, and compassionate; heâs everything a good-natured protagonist is
but heâs only like this to people/hobbies he cares about/close with; anything else heâs quite apathetic and also very passive/neutral about
the biggest hint to this is when Akashi criticizes Kuroko for cherry-picking who the GoMs should âgo all out againstâ and who to casually toy with
and Akashi is absolutely correct
most of the series is portrayed through Kurokoâs perspective, and Akashi is the first direct outside perspective who comments on his actions/attitude
itâs obviously not that Kuroko didnât ânoticeâ... he clearly sees and knows what these GoMs are doing; after all, he had a conversation with Aomine about how observant he is to everything around him
of course, if you were close to him, all your opinions and issues matter to him
itâs the fact that whatâs not really important to him is suddenly now important just because someone he knows is involved
just an example: if someone was advocating climate change, he has no opinion on it until someone he knows cares about the issue
in other words, he has a subtle hypocritical view on things, especially when he interacts with others
another clear negative trait could be that heâs too idealistic or perhaps naive, seeing things in a clear black-or-white picture and not necessarily a gray area
WE know, as an audience, that the GoMs honestly needed therapy and a proper adult to guide their out-of-control talents
but Kuroko, in his eyes, had viewed them as âbadâ and âevilâ in their ways of basketball until they changed after their respective matches
heâs probably someone who doesnât yield to other opinions once he forms his own, and this may make him unable to consider things in other peopleâs perspectives
which is again, ironic: someone who doesnât have generally a strong stance but once they do, itâs very unyielding, which further proves Akashiâs comment about Kurokoâs tendency to nitpick which to care about
a final hc about a potential flaw he might have here in a different ask!
Kise Ryota
yâall⌠itâs as canon as day that he has a mean side
straight from the author himself, itâs confirmed that Kise is only kind to those who he respects, and to the rest, heâs cold-hearted
in the manga, itâs very clear that heâs super judgmental on every first impression on people he meets, boxing them into categories based on the way they look, act, and speak
only when they surpass his preset expectations (low or high depends on his preliminary judgments of them) is when he opens his mind to the rest of their personality
this is a very close-minded way of thinking, and I hope I donât need to explain why LOL
this can be interpreted as him being two-faced by the majority of the people in his school
his way of speaking can definitely be very cruel and crass, and to sensitive people, his words can easily shatter hearts
Kiseâs negative/toxic traits are pretty straightforward here, so letâs move on
Midorima Shintarou
his harsh words can be considered a ânegativeâ part of his personality, but I think itâs a lot more than just that
itâs confirmed in the series that heâs a bystander and almost always minds his own business
on one hand, one can say heâs self-driven and that he constantly strives for self-improvement
on the other, it can be interpreted as him being very dangerously ambitious and selfish, in which most actions he takes are for the sole reason of self-improvement and not for altruistic reasons
for example, when he helped Kuroko and Kagami in the training camp, it was under the reasoning that them becoming stronger would be a good challenge for himself to test and learn
thatâs not to say that he canât have friends, but most friendships heâs built are with capable people who can potentially provide him with some new beneficial skill/goal to strive towards
after all, heâs only learned to trust Takao as a friend only after seeing him as someone capable
because heâs so focused on himself, heâs extremely likely to turn a blind eye to injustice, most also likely to use Oha Asa to justify their âmisfortunesâ as he continues on his day
heâs not cold-hearted, but altruism comes by Midorima a lot rarer than the average person
now, we know that his Oha Asa aspect is used to balance his serious side as the âcomedic sideâ of him, but if we really think about it, his obsessions with the horoscopes could be a huge obstacle in the future, where he may refuse to listen/depend on others in favor of his own intuition and the stars; after all, no one knows everything, and depending on the stars as oneâs next source of advice and guidance isnât a sound decision to commit themselves to
he seems like the person who overthinks and jumps to conclusions when it comes to social situations, but instead of confronting the person, he turns to fate and fortune if Takao isnât near to help
Aomine Daiki
I wouldnât be surprised if Aomine had a skewed sense of beauty standards from all those magazines he consumed and from being around Momoi for the majority of his life
of course anyone can distinguish pieces of media from reality, but during the most impressionable years of life, without experiencing other types of people and physiques, he would have limited knowledge on what âbeautyâ is and whatnot
this probably would be more of a problem in his adolescence than adult
a very given negative trait is his short temper plus his tendency to turn to physical violence when someone nags him to a certain point, seen with how heâs treated Wakamatsu in the beginning (though this seems to almost disappear by the end of the series)
what Iâve noticed in every scene heâs in, is that everything seems to revolve around him and his hobbies of basketball and Japanese idols
what I mean is that everytime we see Aomine, itâs always Momoi approaching to Aomine or just him always being the center of attention; never once has he approached Momoi for anything and itâs always been the other way around
in other words, people have to cater to him in order to get along with him/be in good graces (additional example: Imayoshi letting him do as he pleases to get him to be cooperative and participate in the games)
weâve actually never seen Momoiâs hobbies outside of being a manager for her basketball teams and just anything basketball-related
he can be quite apathetic, choosing to only pay attention and try in things heâs interested in⌠which is basketball and those magazines
he seems to mature in the Last Game though, so Iâm not quite sure to what extent these headcanons would apply to older Aomine (these also donât really apply to Puremine)
Momoi Satsuki
the author probably also included this type of anime trope as comedy, but belittling another female for her body is definitely a no-go in reality; I feel like this is something most people gloss over really lightly
her body comments on Riko are actually what made me skeptical of her character at first before the show really shows her entire personality
that being said, it seems that she always takes the opportunity to look down on other girls (especially to those she is a stranger to) as a sort of âcompetitionâ when thereâs boys around
definitely at certain moments, she screams a âpick-me girlâ type of person (real phenomenon, you can search this up!)
while Kuroko doesnât seem to actively mind this, I think she also has no good sense of boundaries and whatâs considered appropriate touch and consent; people can chalk this up to âoh itâs just infatuation,â but this definitely isnât okay if we really think about this
her life also seems to revolve around either Aomine or Kuroko, and based from that, Iâd feel like sheâd have a difficult time forming her own identity/life separate from her âmanager life,â especially once she graduates from Touou
can definitely be interpreted as too clingy at certain moments, while others may think itâs her way of showing that she cares
Murasakibara Atsushi
most people would chalk up Murasakibara as âlazy,â and on the surface level, it does appear to look that wayâŚ
I think his true negative trait is that he has a lack of intrinsic motivations to drive him to do things
itâs different from being lazy; someone can be lazy while still having a goal, and certainly someone can be lazy while theyâre motivated by thoughts of âI want to learn more,â âI want to get stronger,â etc. (you guys, itâs me right now in college)
and he doesnât have that
part of this was contributed to the fact that heâs already so gifted with genetics and thus, thereâs never been a goal for him to have to work towards to when heâs already at the top
he doesnât actively seek out, and while that may be a characteristic of sloth, itâs not exactly right either
he willingly does things if people around him give him the motivations/reasons to do so; a person of sloth wouldnât do anything even with all the motivations and goals handed right to their face
snacks/food are examples of extrinsic motivations that fuel him to carry on daily life
Himuro is always the main motivator for Murasakibara to come out and watch matches, and he also does whatever Akashi orders in both Teiko and present days // a person who can give the giant the motivation to do tasks would get along with him the most
searching out for a challenge against his basketball skills is something thatâs never crossed his mind
why? he grew to be like the way he is because of the lack of results from his âsearchâ of a challenge throughout his games
again, itâs only when Murasakibara gets handed a silver-platter of a challenge, Jason Silver, that actively gets him pumped up and raring to go
as such, Murasakibara is equivalent to a rusty machine, extremely difficult to start up and find compatibility with, but very powerful and efficient once he finds that spark
Murasakibara finding any partner or friend in the future would be extremely difficult because he ticks a different tune from the rest
Akashi Seijuro
his entire Bokushi side was a giant-ass red flag for very obvious reasons LOL anyways, moving onâŚ
itâs difficult to pinpoint a negative characteristic for Oreshi because heâs the pinnacle of a gentleman character⌠but that technically is also his negative trait
for him to maintain that perfect image for himself and others, he has always carried himself in such a way that doesnât allow for errors or expressions of âweaknessâ
thus, bottling up his frustrations and emotions to the point of no return is something very familiar to Akashi, and Iâd feel like Bokushi is the result of his overflowing emotions left unchecked in the first place
I also predict that if Akashi continues to carry himself without letting himself wind down and feel emotions on the spot rather than locking it up inside him, a day will come when he splits into two halves again with a ânewâ Bokushi to deal with his current life (and let the current Oreshi take a backseat in his psyche to take a break from the turmoil)
also will tend to overwork himself to manage peopleâs expectations as well as his own, and heâs not one to depend on people not because he sees them as inferior or incapable, but because heâs doing this out of habit from being in positions of authority and responsibility for much of his life
and so, he may tend to hide important things or just not speak about his problems in general to those close to him because he feels like he can do it all himself and spare everyone the work and stress associated with them (a leader mentality)
throughout the majority of his life being calm and calculated, his emotions would definitely escape from him in forms of uncontrollable lashes of anger⌠before he would realize what heâs done⌠that is, assuming that another Bokushi hasnât form within his subconscious yet
#knb#knb headcanon#knb headcanons#kuroko no basket#generation of miracles#gom#teiko#teiko middle school#knb teiko#kuroko tetsuya#kise ryota#kise ryouta#midorima shintarou#midorima shintaro#aomine daiki#momoi satsuki#murasakibara#murasakibara atsushi#akashi seijuro#akashi seijirou
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Headcanons for ADHD characters Masterlist
I was asked for this a while ago and I feel this is a good discussion subject because the canon representation for ADHD is kind of abysmal and is often a caricature or a joke.
usual disclaimer, I'm not a therapist, this is not a diagnosis tool, just for fun, etc etc...basing this on my own experience/knowledge with ADHD and meeting a lot of ADHD people IRL. I'm going off the main symptoms first (inattention and/or hyperactivity, restlessness, impulsivity, problems with emotional/focus regulation, daydreaming, messiness, hyper-focus, fidgeting etc) and then looking at character traits that are not a necessary symptom but often associated (substance abuse and addiction, need to please, sensitivity to rejection, compassionate and creative, thrill seeking, very imaginative, charming and witty or withdrawn and shy or angry and irritable, whimsical and fun and a bit child-like, out of the box thinker, self esteem issues, unstable life, comorbidity with anxiety and depression, very intense feelings, functions better with adrenaline/in an emergency, disregard for rules and problems with authority OR extreme compliance, codependency, perceived as weird, clever in an atypical way, problems in school, extremely good at one specific thing, etc)
Also I found this list with actual canonical representation
BOOKS :
The 'fits to a T so I'm seeing it as my personal canon' list :
note : doesn't mean that the authors actually meant to create representation but it's very likely they at least got inspired by people who did have ADHD (even when the diagnosis itself did not exist) and explained it with 'it's just their personality' OR the story happens in a setting where the label doesn't exist as such. also not meant to be exhaustive.
- Helen Burns (from Jane Eyre by Charlotte BrontĂŤ) One of Jane's school friends from the start of the novel, fits the inattentive type to a T : she can't seem to focus or learn her lessons, is constantly daydreaming, describes herself as messy and careless, forgets rules, and is easily distracted. She talks constantly about her own 'defective nature' and seems very sensitive to criticism but incapable of changing. She doesn't defend herself against the nuns' harsh punishments as she thinks she deserves them. She's presented as kind-hearted and compassionate, almost too good for this world, and hyperfocuses on her faith. Apparently sb even wrote an academic article on this. She dies so it's not super fun representation but it is interesting to see in an older book, to push back against the idea that ADHD was invented yesterday by Big Pharma lol.
- Grantaire (from Les Miserables, Victor Hugo) Part of the student revolutionary group Les Amis de l'ABC and resident skeptic, does not believe in the cause but is fixated on the group's idealistic leader (and yeah it sounds very gay, they die holding hands, there is a lot of Symbolism). He spends his time ranting about things that are only vaguely connected, is described as brilliant but incapable of sticking to any one profession or hobby, is an alcoholic, has a creative streak (was a painter at some point), likes wandering around the city, has massive self-esteem issues and is a general mess but does seem to care about his friends. This is not a very flattering portrayal as Grantaire is described as morally deficient but again, interesting in an old book. ADHD!Grantaire is a popular take in the modern fandom (i was in it before I was diagnosed it brought up a lot of Things) and it's very cathartic to see him get actual therapy in fic lmao.
- Luna Lovegood (from the Harry Potter series) JKR sucks but this is probably the most high profile case of a possible inattentive ADHD character so I didn't want to leave it out. She's a daydreamer, she is a big space cadet and seems to live in her own world, she has a very out of the ordinary sense of style, she's bullied for being weird, but she's also very kind and perceptive and cares a lot about her friends, and good at coming up with out of the box solutions. I wouldn't call it good representation, she's described as a wacko whom a lot of characters find cringeworthy but she's also pretty heroic, so. And she does seem to hyperfocus on magical creatures. Plus her father could also have it (and it runs in families).
- Jasper Fahey (from Six of Crows duology, Leigh Bardugo) Part of a young group of thieves with a heart of gold, he's a charmer and a compulsive gambler who quits college and incurs debts so massive he stops talking to his father out of shame. He's also an extremely talented sharpshooter and the scenes where he describes how the whole world slows and the rush of adrenaline when he is shooting sound like hyperfocus to a T. He's a loyal friend but also quite dependent on Kaz, the leader of the group, to keep him in line. He's witty, messy and he likes danger. His boyfriend later in the series, Wylan, is dyslexic and the way they learn to accommodate each other's issues honestly makes them one of my favorite couples ever. I need to reread these books and I am so stoked for the series I hope they do Jasper justice.
- Julian Diaz (from Cemetary Boys, Aiden Thomas) Love interest of the book, introduced as the 'high school resident bad boy', energetic motormouth who can't sit still and actually very endearing, has issues in school and gets bored easily, main problem is that he's a ghost...sort of. The whole thing was very cute and I love that Julian's personality is described as fun and attractive instead of annoying (which is, if you haven't noticed already, a pattern).
- Evie O'Neill (from the Diviners series, Libba Bray) She's a flapper in 1920s New York who ran away from her boring little town to make a life for herself ; she's a party girl and an impulsive thrill-seeker who hates standing still and is always looking for excitement to 'fill the void'. She craves fame and attention and pretty things, she can be a loyal friend but is also frequently self-centered and forgetful, she's street smart, resourceful and very charming and witty. She's also grieving, drinks too much and is definitely depressed. She's obviously meant as an archetype of the era, caught between trauma and excess, but it does come over as very hyperactive ADHD as well. Her powers to read objects also really pinged me as a good metaphor for the ADHD tendency to be overwhelmed by details.
The 'bit more of a reach but there's a vibe' list :
- Emma Woodhouse (from Emma, Jane Austen) Frequently cited as a character with ADHD, I didn't come up with this one but she fits. She's daydreaming, easily bored, has flights of fancy and hyper-focuses on matchmaking, is a bit impulsive and thrill seeking, clever in an unconventional way, described as a bit immature, mix of caring and self-centered.
- Ronan Lynch (from the Raven Cycle, Maggie Stiefvater) Ronan just has Neuroatypical Vibes, even though it's not entirely clear what, and I've seen people label him all sorts of things which is very valid. As for ADHD, he's restless, impulsive, likes to Go Fast and do street racing, he has very strong emotions he doesn't know what to do with, and big self esteem issues esp. at the start, is very all or nothing with people, snarky, drops out of school to be a magic farmer, problems with authority, looks like a scary mean goth but is actually a big softie (but like, with a few people), pulls shit out of his dreams. Is kind of dependent on his best friend at the start too.
- Sherlock Holmes (from the eponymous series by Arthur Conan Doyle) Again a character who has been diagnosed with all sorts of things. The biggest ADHD vibe for me is 'my mind rebels at stagnation' and the way he needs drugs to function outside of the thrill of a case, and the way he hyper-focuses on information he needs to be a detective while completely ignoring common knowledge. Also sort of dependent on his best friend Watson and isn't great at social interactions. Doesn't care much about upholding social conventions either. The RDJ adaptation is the one that has the most ADHD vibes to me.
- Harley Quinn (DC Comics/Movies) Big codependency issues (that's arguably the thing she's most known for) and sadly people with ADHD are often prone to getting into abusive relationships. It depends on the story too but she's very energetic, zany, impulsive, she likes shiny things and bright clothes, she's fun and chaotic and likes to break the rules, she's a criminal but she does seem to have a heart, she's also frequently immature and rash, etc.
What are your headcanons ? I would love to hear if you have some so I can add them to the list. I'll make a TV/Movies list soon.
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Anger isnât an emotion Iâm awfully used to. And I donât know how to handle it because itâs like a quiet and internal anger. Like obviously I express it verbally or itâs obvious to see on me sometimes. Thatâs just normal everyone has that.
But itâs like I have this other type of anger thatâs fully internal and fully at myself. Iâm angry at myself. Iâm upset at myself. Itâs like a level of resentment. I resent being me. I resent being a lesbian. I resent being mentally ill. I resent being unaccomplished. I resent being ugly.
But at the same time Iâm so unbelievably sensitive about so many of those things. I can cry every which way about how I donât want to be a lesbian and being a lesbian is hard or isolating or seems to always bring forth frustrating situations or people assuming Iâm a bad person - but suddenly a discussion around sexuality or lesbianism comes up and Iâm fully on the defensive. I get so tense and my chest gets all tight and itâs like I have a build of adrenaline ready to shut everyone down. But then as soon as itâs over I crash and fall into a pit of despair and more self hatred. And honestly I donât understand it.
I donât understand how I can be so okay and comfortable and accepting of my sexuality while simultaneously being so on guard and angry and upset over it.
Like I know logically itâs probably just my ptsd over it. And since itâs not something I can âwalk away fromâ I havenât yet had the break I need to deal with it in a healthy and manageable way. Like Iâm probably just being really triggered and hyperventilate. But it still messes my head up because it doesnât make any sense. And I feel like all these floods of emotions I feel over it donât reflect me or my actual beliefs. Iâm just running on fear and chemicals.
But itâs hard when I do get all those physical affects. Itâs hard to ignore. When my chest becomes incredibly tight. When it feels like blood is pumping everywhere. When I get shaky. When my head starts spinning with thoughts. When my stomach drops. When my heart feels like itâs being squeezed out of me.
Itâs so hard to not have an emotional reaction to that. To not fall into a ball of rumination and sadness and confusion and anger at myself and just so much resentment.
And I feel like I donât know what to do with it. Like I donât know how to cope. Iâd argue thatâs where some of SH issues come from and some of the reason I sleep a lot. Because it really does take it out of me.
But Iâm wholeheartedly at a loss on how to handle this. Because I canât slowly dip into exposure therapy when Iâm ready and take it slow because it just pops up. This is my personhood. This is who I am. I live in a world where my existence is a debate no matter where I go. Iâm constantly being put in edge and triggered and reminded of things when Iâm not ready or not in a safe place to do so.
So I donât know what to do other then shut down. Because being triggered and having so much trauma over my own personhood makes things really , really difficult for me.
#just a rant and half#it is happening again surprise surprise#so Iâm trying to go something to get the feelings and panic to go away#Tw self harm#tw ptsd#tw homophobia#personal
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it just is | pjh
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title: it just is pairing: park jaehyung (jae of day6) & you genre: angst with a happy ending words: 4.2k
authorâs note: this took a few days to write because i wanted to approach it with sensitivity, and some realism from personal experiences. as i get to know jae as an artist, a day6 member, and a person even more, i feel so grateful for his music and his vulnerability that oftentimes is met with differing opinions from other people. i wanted to express that in this fic, and i hope i did the genre justice.Â
content warning: discussions of online hate, criticism, feelings of worthlessness, coping through them
any requests? check my pinned post if iâm accepting any at the moment, thanks!
You donât get itâ or maybe you do. Youâve been given criticism before; on a powerpoint presentation, college-level essays, exams with written solutions needed, even for work performances. It has its benefits, having other qualified people observe you through their own lenses. It makes you notice the errors in your answers, mispronunciations, and flaws in your work ethic you wouldnât have been able to catch if you were tasked to evaluate yourself.Â
Thereâs a difference however, in the ways that youâve experienced being given criticism and the way Jae has.Â
He gets criticized. Instead of firm and blunt observations that he needs to take into consideration, and adjust when necessary, he isnât given a room for improvement. He just receives these words with a punch to the gut, a slap on his face, and it stings. A whole damn lot.Â
You think about the unfair times you were given criticism for work or a task that you originally thought was executed decently enough, at least for your standards. But thatâs the point of being handed blunt feedback, is to let you realize that you can reach higher than this, go beyond what you previously had shown to others or even to yourself.Â
Criticism given to you over the years had always spared space for you to reflect, and grow with it. It was always supposed to be a weapon for you to take into your own hands, and wield it yourself. It was never meant to attack you full force, and leave you bleeding with no help in sight.Â
So maybe you do get it, but also you never really will when it comes to Jae.Â
Either way, youâd be lying if you said you wouldnât pick up the phone at a time when everyone in the city should be fast, fast asleep. When people have already drifted off into a deep slumber that enables them to dream beautiful things.Â
Youâd be lying to yourself if you said you wouldnât ride your bicycle so late at night which you absolutely abhor. The cold air hitting your face as you speed up against its current is rarely a welcomed feeling, but that was the least of your concerns as you turned the corner to his apartment.Â
When it comes to Jae, your mind hums a low beep, static noise to blaring fire alarms and resounding thoughts in an instant.Â
You don't think much of it, however. He's just another friend, one who is in need.Â
You never truly believed he could be alright by himself, but you wanted to give him a chance. Now, hearing his voice crack through your phone followed by the connection breaking apart, you struggle to forgive yourself for letting him be. Even for just a little bit.Â
There wasnât a need to knock, but youâre worried Jae may have forgotten he even called you in hesitation in the first place. In order to avoid spooking him, you make your presence known more clearly in the darkness.Â
âJae, itâs me. Iâm coming into your room.âÂ
The door squeaks lightly, but the view isnât any different. It remains dark, and lifeless in here. Stepping inside, the air just got a little bit heavier, and Jaeâs breathing sounds more difficult that you began feeling aware of your own heart rate speeding up.
Retracing your steps from the multiples times youâve been here, you get to the small lamp he barely uses on his desk. You turn it on the lowest brightness setting, giving the room a bit more dimension. It gives you a better view of Jae laying down on his bed, eyes staring into the ceiling. His hands support the weight of his head, lifting it up from the sheets.Â
He sniffles for a split second, and your heart thuds like a mic stand dropping on the floor at an empty stadium.Â
âHey,â you approach him, careful not to be too loud with your movements.Â
The mattress dips from the weight of your body, and Jae slightly shuffles to the side to give you room. The side of your lips twitch in response as you make yourself comfortable laying down next to him.
For the next few minutes, no one talked.Â
Not even a hello back from him, and thatâs new.Â
Itâs⌠concerning, to say the least. Even in his most stressful days, youâd stop by his place knowing itâd annoy him but the sight of you and the smell of homemade spam musubi never fails to brighten up his mood.Â
He doesnât forget to tell you that, and it makes you feel needed.Â
Taking in a deep breath, you look at him in the corner of your eye. Heâs not asleep, although his eyes flutter back and forth from keeping it trained to the ceiling and drooping it ever so slightly. You squint further, noticing dried streaks of tears blurring onto his skin.Â
Your voice shakes. "Tell me where it hurts, Jae.â
You will yourself to resist your own choked out sobs. Youâre not even sure what the issue was today. Itâs always different, as if they have a giant wheel reserved just for him that someone gets to spin for their own pleasure.Â
Sometimes it lands on the same, debunked misunderstanding. Other times, youâve become shell-shocked at how quick they fill in the blanks with made-up accusations for the sole purpose of hurting him even more.
None of it makes sense, and what angers you the most is the fact that Jae made you promise not to interfere. You hate that he used that word with you, promise me, please? because both of you know the importance behind them, especially when said between the two of you.
Did he change his mind tonight? Did it suddenly become too much to bear that breaking the very promise he asked of you was his last resort for help?Â
âTell me,â you repeat with more determination now than overwhelmed nerves.Â
âYou wouldnât understand,â Jae answers, cold and empty.Â
Any other day that you pester him with a makeshift therapy session, youâd take that as a challenge. But tonight, his words linger in the air and you canât shake off the goosebumps on your skin.Â
Maybe heâs right; at this point, shouldnât you be more irritated than concerned? If heâs not willing to at least describe how inflicting the pain must be with every word online stabbed into him, why do you bother cleaning up the mess?Â
âHow do you know that?âÂ
âBecause youâre not me. They say those things because itâs me. Iâm the problem.â
âJaeâ"Â
You have the script memorized, the tirade of counterpoints to every blame shifted upon himself, but tonight you stop the words spilling from your mouth.Â
You turn your body towards him, hands folded underneath your cheek, a lone tear falling from your right eye.
âDo you believe them?â You ask, and the pause in Jaeâs staring doesnât go unnoticed.Â
He finally looks at you directly, ever since laying down beside him on his bed. With his body still laying flat, he turns his head to face you, his lips pressed together roughly.Â
You elicit a tsk sound, ignoring the amount of time that has passed since your question. Your fingers meet the cracked skin on his lips as you gently pry them off of each other. Itâs wet, and the bright ring of blood doesnât surprise you. Instead, you wipe it away, pulling your hand back to smear it off your shirt.Â
At some point, Jae mouths you a sorry but you donât acknowledge him. Just as heâs obviously avoiding your own query.
âYouâre not sleeping well,â it was more a fact than another question thrown at him. You reckon heâd be more cooperative with you if you say it how it is without him denying openly obvious things.Â
âYouâre only drinking dubious cups of coffee in a day with one meal in between, at the most.â
âI havenât had an appetite recently.â
âBut youâd cater to your growing caffeine addiction more so than bring your appetite back?âÂ
You donât want to sound mean, but the stress lines forming on your forehead arenât helping with your attempt to ease into the conversation more slowly.Â
Jae sighs, and itâs one of his many signs that entails he wants to move on, talk about something that is less targeting his questionable behavior and more mundane shit that doesnât fit into the mood of the room at all.Â
âI didnât think youâd come.â
Unexpectedly, you look back at him and answer with a hint of surprise, âYou think so low of me.â
Jae laughs, and for a moment the room became brighter. Just a little bit.Â
âDude, do you know what time it is?âÂ
âYes, do you?â It was a rhetorical question, but youâre sort of glad heâs not just staying silent anymore. âI donât have class in the morning. Even if I did, Iâd still be here. Just cursing you out more for making me bike in the cold.âÂ
âItâs because you donât wear enough layers, dummy,â Jae points out, pointing at the lack of thick clothing covering your upper body.Â
Your first instinct is to flick his forehead, nudge him by the shoulder, and call him a fool. How can you even think of yourself that way when you receive a call from someone whose voice was on the verge of tears?Â
But you let it go for now, itâs not like heâll believe you. Itâs not like it matters.Â
âI still havenât gotten my From Friends merch, Jae,â you taunt him and he laughs once more. Slowly, you feel his mood change from dreary to a few degrees warmer as he sits up on the bed.Â
You follow his lead, keeping your knees close, chin resting atop them. Youâll humor him for right now, itâs probably best that you donât force his feelings out in the open as unwanted as they may be. He might not allow you in the future if you do.
âYou can have one of mine. They gave me a ton from the first test batches,â he offers, leaning into you as if to convince you even more.Â
âIâm seriously gonna hold you onto that. Iâm not leaving your apartment tonight without a sweater or two,â you respond, darting your tongue out. Normally, Jae would reciprocate, and if heâs feeling even riskier, inch his face towards yours for shock value.Â
Tonight, heâs definitely acting differently than normal. Especially with what he says right after is not something youâd expect from Jae.Â
âDonât leave tonight.âÂ
âIââÂ
âJust for tonight?â Jae pleads, gaze fully on yours now. âIâm sorry for being selfish, but⌠Iâm really, really glad you came. I wouldnât know what⌠Iâm just.. lost and I donât know what else to think. Iâm sorry.âÂ
âDonât be. Iâll stay,â you reassure him, not entirely sure what this entails.Â
This doesnât feel like those nights youâd be here for sleepovers countless of times before. Those nights were planned, prepared, and eventually ends up with Jae sleeping on the couch and you hogging his bed, as per your request (yet he willingly lends you his blanket).Â
Maybe two, three hours at bestâ this was the amount of time you believed youâd stay. Youâll listen to him vent, or just sink into the silence with him. Either way, you knew your presence can only soothe his pain temporarily, and he wonât say it out loud so you show yourself out the door voluntarily.Â
He wouldnât protest, just hug you goodbye and ask that you text him when you get home.Â
You awkwardly stretch out your legs, placing your hands on your thighs. Swallowing a nervous breath, you let out, âSo, um, do you want to talk about it, pal⌠orâŚâÂ
All of a sudden you canât comprehend a single word youâre saying, while Jae just stares at you amusingly, his lips in a tight smile waiting to burst out in giggles.Â
âIâm trying to comfort you here!â you whine, pouting at the way heâs making fun of you. âWhen you suddenly ask me to stay just like that, it makes it⌠weird!â
âIâm sorry,â Jae chuckles airily, carding a hand through his ruffled dark brown locks. âItâs fun for me when Iâm not the butt of the joke,â he continues on, tone spiraling to that of seriousness again.Â
âIs it something incredibly absurd again? What was it? What happened?âÂ
Jae shakes his head. âThe words donât matter.âÂ
You argue back, âYes, they do. Itâs what hurts the most.âÂ
Youâve seen the tweets, sometimes even the hashtags and you wish there was a way to mass report the whole app altogether, and throw it all away in the trash. But Jae reprimands you for overreacting, even if you catch him smiling at the suggestion.Â
âDebatable,â he sighs outwardly, clasping his hands together and resting them in between the wall and the nape of his neck. âA lot of them are just empty words, sure, but the pain they inflict is something else entirely.âÂ
Thereâs something about the way Jae speaks about criticism thrown at him that makes you frustrated.Â
Itâs not a secret that there isnât an ounce of defensive vein in you when youâre at the receiving end of people finding faults in your work, your character. You believe humans are overprotective of who they think they are, theyâve become, as much as they like to hide it.Â
But with Jae, he sounds way too calm and composed for your liking. Ironically so, since he mentions pain. Perhaps this is his coping mechanism, take them as they are, unembellished and oftentimes hurtful.Â
But it doesnât have to be that way, because the more he speaks of them so nonchalantly, the less his eyes sparkle and show his true feelings.Â
Your eyebrows crease even further, examining Jaeâs facial features that remain still and unmoving, giving attention to anything else in his line of sight but you.Â
âA lot of them are false accusations, you donât have to accept what you think is false.â
âAre they, though? To an extent, I think it shows what others perceive of me on a daily basis.âÂ
âSo youâre saying you do believe what they say about you?âÂ
âAt this point,â Jae starts off, stretching his arms upwards before crossing them against his chest languidly. He looks tired. âWhat else do I believe in? You know when the negativity becomes so loud in your head, I canât explain it, but the words that tell me to keep going get muddled and overpowered by everything that screams Iâm not enough?âÂ
Youâre not sure whether to respond.Â
It doesnât seem like anything you say can add value to his confession. You look down on your hands, not knowing what to do with them so you keep them intertwined. Itâs sweaty, yet the buzzing of his air conditioner fills the air. For some reason, you canât stop your heart from pounding heavily inside you either.Â
In a way, itâs possibly because of the realization that all you can offer Jae is an ear to listen to. All you can offer him is your body warmth hopefully exuding onto him, having the presence of another person in his space just to ensure that someone is listening to what he has to say. When no one else seems to let him do so online.
But you want to be more, you have wanted to be so much more. You wish your hands can extend themselves to his, pull him closer so he can hear your heart beating desperately for him. If it had a morse code of its own, it would have confessed the love you feel for him all this time.Â
Itâs gone quiet again, so you slowly lift your head to sneak a peek at him. His eyes are closed, and you wonder if heâs fallen asleep with unwanted thoughts fogging his brain.Â
Great, the guilt makes it way on your shoulders, weighing you down with it. He asks you to stay, you donât believe his sincerity, and when heâs opened up so much in one night, you lack the response he needed to hear.Â
âIf it means anything, I donât believe them. You have your share of dumb moments, sure, but who hasnât? If they figured out how much stupid shit I have said or done in my lifetime, I donât think Iâll have a career ever again,â you mutter, mostly to yourself now.Â
Your mind wanders back to those times that youâve made yourself look like a fool in front of Jae, and he still holds you against them to this day.Â
âRemember when I said owls were the cutest animals ever? And then I saw a tumblr post of what their legs looked like underneath all of those feathers? I felt so betrayed,â you recall out loud, snickering at times the group chat you shared with Jae and your mutual friends consisted solely of those creepy baby owl pictures that have surfaced on the internet-- seemingly their only purpose was to torment you with the truth.
You had posted your intense distaste of the animal on your Twitter, rather proudly even. It was a good thing your account was private, but the shame you felt was too intense to keep it on your profile for too long so you ended up deleting it, anyway.Â
But imagine if someone had somehow saved that tweet and called you out for being cruel towards unsuspecting birds?Â
âOr the time I got so drunk, I basically roasted all of your solo songs, calling them the national anthem of a hopeless romantic who will never find the love theyâve been praying for?â This was before It Just Is with Seori, and it was a dare that Younghyun had given you as payback for making him act out a lovey-dovey manhwa scene with Dowoon.Â
You think, if their supporters heard that out of context, youâre most likely toast.Â
Understandably, these are all a stretch, and at the end of the day, youâre not as famous as Jae. And if anything, the âroastâ you had blurted out was completely inaccurate of what you actually think of his solo projects.Â
A projection, if you will, of your own feelings. If anyone in your circle of friends wears the title of a hopeless romantic, the crown has been glued to your head since meeting Jae.Â
âIâm not making any sense,â you say, rubbing your cheeks for comfort while watching Jae just doze off into the night. You werenât sure if he still needed you to stay, but youâd feel it would be amiss if you left.Â
You begin to shuffle your way off the bed to give yourself more space to think about your next move until you feel Jaeâs hand reach for yours, and squeeze it tight.Â
âI didnât say you can go,â he mumbles sleepily, eyes still fluttered close. Yet his lips are smiling, almost as if heâs dreaming lightly. If that were the case, you humor him, and let his hand fall into yours. You like it that way, too.Â
âDid you hear what I just said two minutes ago?â
âNo,â he lies.Â
âMhm,â you hum, slowly making your way on the bed again. This time, you sit next to him, his sweatpants clad thigh leaning against your leggings. Your hands still held together, albeit loosely, he lifts it up as if to examine it with droopy eyes.Â
âThanks, though. Oddly enough, that made me feel a little better,â he admits. âExcept for that time you said hated my songs. I donât think Iâm letting that go easily.â
âI was apologetic, and it was a dare! I offered you food for a week,â you protest, shaking his hand off but he doesnât budge. He keeps it in his palms, and you donât know what to do with yourself.Â
A blush escapes on your cheeks, pink and warm, and most definitely as a result of your nerves getting the best of you.Â
âTrue,â he recalls, and tilts his head to the side inquisitively, âbut it sounded like you really meant itâŚâ
âJae, you know thatâs not true. I literally stream them on soundcloud almost every day,â you say a matter-of-factly, but regret it since it wasnât something that he had no knowledge about before tonight. He pulls your hand closer to his chest, and excitedly beams at you.Â
âNo way?â He exclaims, and you have no choice but to confirm, a helpless pout on your face. âYeah, I listened to it on the way here.âÂ
âMy number one fan, huh,â he coos, tracing the lines on your palm. You gulp hard, knowing how much sweat your hands had accumulated since meeting his touch. You really donât want him to notice, but the soothing caress of his fingers felt better than not anything else in the world.Â
âWhatever floats your boat, dude,â you try to brush it off, and Jae nods animatedly.Â
You try your best not to appear sleepy as a yawn finds its way out your lips. Jae notices this, and sadly lets go. Then, he taps on his shoulder, the one right next to you.Â
âSleep, my child.âÂ
âNever call me that. Ever again.â
âDonât be dramatic, and just lean in,â he insists, cradling your head until you plop down on him.Â
It feels awkward, angled a bit on the uncomfortable side. But he adjusts for you, and you feel your body giving in to the source of support for your weary mind.Â
âI can sleep on the couchââ
âShh, no more talking.âÂ
Silently, you roll your eyes and say nothing more. Your fingers fiddle with each other once again, remembering how much of Jaeâs skin slid next to yours, and now your cheek is pressed down on his frame.Â
Again, this isnât the first time itâs happened, but the events leading up to this particular night is all new to you. You allow your body to get comfortable, used to this feeling, even if itâs just tonight.Â
Your original plan was to be Jaeâs shoulder to lean on, but the roles seem to have reversed.Â
Softly, Jae calls your name. For a second, youâre too immersed in the synchronized breathing the two of you share. When he brings your hand into his, your senses perk up but you refuse to look into his eyes; afraid of what he might see in yours.Â
âWhat? You said no more talking.âÂ
âIâm happy youâre here,â he tells you, even softer than before as your hands melt together, filling the spaces between. You donât know whether to let this happen, not understanding the meaning behind his actions.Â
Itâs.. weird, unknown, foreign, but addicting. His touch is addictive, and you know youâre going to crave for more if youâre not careful with the dosage.Â
Biting your lip, you struggle to reply. He might mean it in a friendly way, but the invitation to relax right onto his shoulder, lacing your fingers as if theyâre meant to be locked in place that way, itâs all too much for your brain to processâ and definitely your heart.Â
Face hot, heart heavy with emotions, you say shakily, âIâm happy you asked me to.â
âHm?â
âI.. want to be the person you call first when youâre feeling like shit. If possible, I want to be the only person.â There was no going back, no swallowing words youâve let go in the open.Â
As you speak, Jaeâs fingers tighten its grasp around yours. You feel weak, but you appreciate him supporting you this way as you keep going.Â
âI probably will never understand what it is you feel when certain words pierce through you too deep, like you said. But that doesnât mean I donât want to. I want to know how youâre feeling, from good to bad. From the best and the worst of it all. I want to be there.â
âWho said you arenât?â Jaeâs low voice interrupts your stream of emotions, and it compels you to finally see his eyes. Theyâre shining, teary, and smiling at the same time.Â
You feel your cheeks soaking wet, and a hiccup arises out of your lips. With your free hand, you hide half of your face in embarrassment. Two idiots, crying together, hands never letting go of each other.Â
It didnât seem long until you fell asleep on his bed. The only difference this time, from all the other times youâve been here, Jae was sleeping beside you.Â
Arms over your frame, his long fingers finding their permanent place within yours. The two of you have exhausted your emotions enough that night, and there was plenty of time in the day to talk it all through.Â
You dream of what seems to be a possible future for you and Jae. Moments when heâd fuck up, when youâd say something out of pocket, but it was met with a healthy discussion between you.Â
And even if there are days when people online couldnât understand the growth happening in his life, you see it. You see him, and you donât hesitate to forgive, and give him space to grow. As he does with you.
#day6 imagines#day6 scenarios#day6 x reader#day6 au#park jaehyung imagines#park jaehyung scenarios#park jaehyung x reader#park jaehyung au#day6 fic#by:jiae
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who do you think is the most dateable dark matter thief?? i know you have an opinion and i need to hear it
sorry for the late response anon i honestly had to think abt this one for a few days lmao, but yeah i have opinions. below the cut bc fr i have opinions, all of them have major pros and cons (based on my characterization at least) and really i just have to break it down for u
Boros, everyones obvious first choice, but certainly not mine.
Pros: rich, tall, pretty, fun af, passionate, will kill for you np, give you anything you want, literally anything.
cons: has a god complex, doesnt respect you, not his number one priority at all, will forget about you once its not interesting for him anymore, probably argumentative/combative af, is very very smart and has no problem manipulating you in all the worst ways, is very entitled so he will never feel bad about anything, cant win arguments either bc heâll want to settle it with combat, will get offended over little things just to argue bc he thinks thats fun
this is a relationship youâd get into if you literally have nothing to lose and dont care about your mental health. like hes hot but this shit would be toxic af and he will ruin your life and leave you to go fuck around and fight someone on the other side of the universe. this will be the best of times and the worst of times for you and you will never be the same afterward mentally or emotionally. the only way i would even consider it is if i lost my damn mind. The only way a relationship with him would ever work long term is if you were physically stronger than him and were capable of putting him in his place OR you were smart enough, suicidal enough, and interesting enough to him to engage in some psychological warfare and reject him if he asked you. Make him chase you for years, say yes, then decide that /heâs/ boring /you/ and leave him for another member of the squad to just destroy their established hierarchy and humble him to the point that heâs obsessed with you.
i dont have the energy for all that, so iâll just smash and pass.
0/10 completely undateable
Geryuganshoop, also a probable second choice for many:
pros: cute, nice, tentacle alien (obviously), will respect you np, will also give you anything you want, not antagonistic at all, telepathic communication so no risk of miscommunication, emotionally intelligent and available, loyal to a fault,
cons: horrible boss/best friend that you will have to listen to him vent about for at least 3 hours a day, complete yes man as well so he will not tell boros no or cut him off and you will be stuck dealing with this no matter what, severely mentally ill and wont go to therapy bc he thinks hes handling it well, workaholic, needs a lot, and i mean A LOT of attention
this relationship would be great if not for boros lol. boros sabotages his social and romantic life but geryu has been friends with him too long to either cut him off or establish boundaries. he has no backbone (figuratively and literally) and wouldnt even consider it. heâll ignore you in favor of his job too, to a massive degree. also i think that while the telepathic communication would be a major plus in most cases, here i feel like iâd have no less than 16 different, never before seen on earth, mental illnesses projected right into my brain just from being within a certain radius of him.
im already fucked up enough in that sense so pass unfortunately.
it would be a yes without boros in the picture tho lmao
so prob like 4/10 iffy datablillity, 1 level increase with each decade of therapy he gets tho so a lot of potential :D
Groribas, my fav girl:
pros: straightforward, realistic, very clear expectations, will not fuck around with you whatsoever like there is no mind games or anything here, will kill for you, rich and non materialistic so sheâll basically just let you do whatever with her money since she doesn t care about it, cares about her job but like...a normal amount. she absolutely has a good work/life balance, highly organized so she will not forget important dates, loyal af and will defend your honor under any circumstances, mean but in a funny way, a ton of fun to hang out with if youâre into that, no eyes so i dont have to worry abt eye contact ever
cons: extremely high expectations, like exhaustingly high, and not even a bit of flexibility there, if you dont meet the cut its a no, sheâll let you know and leave same day, she will also bully you, you need a thick skin and great sense of humor to survive, bad at feelings if you need emotional support???? go elsewhere, shes mega emotionally unavailable, will probably want to share bodies as a form of intimacy
overall its a solid 6.5/10 dateability for me i love the directness and no bs approach, we would def get along well. however, while im not sensitive, shes def gonna hit on some insecurities at some point and it will cause an argument lol. but i mean whatever. it happens. the body sharing would be an issue though, same reason i wouldnt be chill with having a symbiote despite being a major venom fucker. i need my space i cant deal with that. so thats a possible deal breaker if she couldnt get over that lol. and she wont, so we wouldnt work out. i wish it fuckin would thođđđ i would take whatever crumbs of attention she would be willing to give me
Melzalgald, my fav they/them bastard:
pros: amorphous and shapeshifting aka extremely attractive according to my taste in monsters, tall af but could chose to be a more reasonable survivable size lol, self contained and self-entertaining so they dont need a ton of attention to be happy, funny af, rich, will give you whatever you want and probably a bunch of shit you didnt know you wanted, very fun, built in friend group if you didnt already have friends, extremely emotionally intelligent and great people skills due to living in a collective, stupid af by choice, like some of em are very smart, but they dont claim that, will say fuck work and tell boros to eat shit to spend time with you, will kill for you as well, but only if you ask them to bc their first inclination is to just bother someone to death, very loyal, once they like you they like you really forever, it would take some pretty extreme circumstances to make them dislike you
cons: annoying af and its unavoidable, will talk over you, all of them at once will talk over you and do so loudly, no respect for personal space, they dont even know what that is, will probably accidentally manhandle you, they act stupid but arent so they can be manipulative, even if it isnt bad and they dont really mean to be, impulsive, forgetful of the needs of organic creatures so they will bother you at all hours of the day and night if you arent firm with boundaries, disgustingly extroverted and will bring randoms to your place without asking, or just...make new cluster members and you have to roll with it, will eat or absorb literally anything you have, will antagonize and bother you for fun, major jump scare risk since sometimes the forms are....fleshy
this ones hard for me like theyre hot af and i feel like theyâd be super fun and good partners, but god....the noise. idk how long i could deal with that lol i dont like people in my house. it would drive me up the wall, but then again...i can simply kick them out when ive had enough. they arent projecting mental illness directly into my brain or requiring me to share a body sintelligento major plus. creepy thing/symbiote style hot monster without any of the invasiveness so tbh 8/10 dateability
some people date loud annoying extroverts who dont understand personal space that /arent/ rich, loyal, or emotionally intellegent so iâd be winning on a few different fronts lmao
#lord boros#geryuganshoop#groribas#melzalgald#dark matter thieves#opm#i put way too much thought into this after not thinking abt them in a long while#it was fun tho#Anonymous
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Response to being asked to give an opinion on Connieâs calout by residentevil-4
(Tw: CSAM, rape fic, incest fic, predatory behavior, racism, ableism, kink mention, nsfw mentions. Minors should probably dni.)
âConnie and I know each other irl and went to school together for 3 years, although they now live in a different state and have cut contact with me. We went to a private therapy school in Manhattan as we're both disabled and were deemed unable to attend public school. Even though we were pretty close, Connie didn't like having photos taken of them, so I don't have any selfies of the two of us; however, these are from our sophomore and senior yearbooks which at least confirms that we were in the same year at school. People who have seen Connie's selfies should be able to confirm that that is what they look like. First and foremost, Connie is not TMA. They are intersex and the two of us have discussed intersex issues both in person and online, but they are still decidedly CAFAB.â Ok so first off, I want to address this part of the callout. To be honest...was it really necessary to literally doxx Connie ehre? Because this textbook definition of doxxing. Yes Connieâs done some shitty things but I freally donât think that what theyâve done warrants this level of doxxing. Or...even better, any doxxing. This feels like a really unnecessary breach of privacy, revealing sensitive information on Connieâs childhood that they choose to confide in you with. I really donât agree with this aspect of the callout as it feels very invasive and bordering on stalkerish. Btw when I say bordering on stalkerish Iâm not directly calling you a stalker Bonnie. Just so weâre clear. I am not defending Connie supposedly faking being TMA. Because faking being TMA is a very serious issue. HOWEVER since I donât know Connie irl and to be quite frank itâs none of my business what the nature of their agab is. Were not close and Iâm certainly not going to like lead Connie onto thinking weâre friends just to confirm this with them because that would be creepy. So to be honest Iâm going to take this part of the callout with again of salt for now.
[ID: A cropped screenshot of a numbered list Connie posted to their blog hadrosaurs in response to an ask.Â
â3. Iâm TMA And thatâs completely irrelevant. Iâm not accusing them because of their gender I didnât even know their gender when they said that to me saying that they said that because they fucking said that and the reaction to it was incredibly alarming. Donât fucking say that stuff to people.]
I mean Iâm not a trans woman so take this with a grain of salt if you want but...I donât see how this is really proof of Connie being deliberately transmisogynistic? Yes Connie gives iffy retellings of mistakes theyâve made in the past. Iâve seen that on their blog before and I wonât pretend it doesnât happen. BUT here they sound genuine enough and to be honest a growing issue Iâve seen with callouts as of late is. A person confirms they in fact did not do the thing they were called out for. And then the people who make the callout choose to see it as proof of incriminating behavior anyways. To be honest itâs a big problem and itâs also incredibly unfair to the person being called out. If youâre so determined at that point to see the person as bigoted no matter what they say then of course anything they say can be seen as proof. So Iâm going to have to pass on this bit of evidence. âConnie responded: âFinal note: I have spoken extensively with several trans women about using TMA to describe myself. I will not be getting into discourse about that on this blog again. All that leads to is people demanding my medical records and calling me slurs. If you wanna have a thoughtful conversation about it direct message me cause itâs not happening again here.â Again this really doesnât seem all that self incriminating. Connie mentions here that theyâve talked to rl trans woman about whether or not they can be considered TMA. Connie really doesnât have to disclose that personal information to people for any reason. Yes even when people are e including this ask response in a callout. And considering lots of people DO get invasive about Connieâs medical history ans general personal life over matters like this? I feel their reaction is pretty understandable here. âConnie has constantly compared âexclusionistsâ (or anyone, really) to TERFs, even when the people in question are not transmisogynistic, trans exclusionary radfems, or are even transmisogyny affected themselves.
â Gonna have to disagree with this part of the callout too. Lots of ace inclus blogs, even some run by trans women , have proven that the ace exclus movement was started by swerfs/terfs. But the blog that has the most evidence for this is courteousmingler on tumblr. I suggest you check out that blogâs archiving of the history of ace exclus rhetoric before rushing to call me a transmisogynist for disagreeing with this part of the callout. I looked through all of the evidence for Connie being racist and tbh as a black ndn it all feels incredibly flimsy. Itâd be one thing if Connie was using their experiences to derail and invalidate the discussions about how black people are oppressed But they werenât doing that there at all. This part of the post feels incredibly biased. And like OP is looking for things to be mad about. Going to have to pass on this list of evidence. Also uh I seem to recall that residentevil04 got called out for some questionable behavior as well. âBoth me (insepsy, hi) and ezrat have had really weird spikes in activity on our Statcounters, both on the same day. (Saturday, 4/17/21) For both of us, majority of the pages looked at by these visitors have been related to or about Connie, or have been posts that Connie would find "problematic" such as the f slur untagged or something related to "panphobia"/aphobia. Iâm sorry but...none of the proof of cyberstalking holds any water. Visiting someoneâs blogs and rbing posts to disagree with them is not cyberstalking. Keeping tabs on urls that an abusive person who has harassed are using so you can block them (in this case with kyoshi) and warn your mutuals is not stalking. As a victim of rl stalking itâs...really weird to call this legit stalking at all. Much less claim that you have damning proof of it being stalking when no such evidence exists in the callout. Besides after Connie and nonbinarydave called out one of kyoshiâs buddies for sending a death threat hate anon to nonbinarydaveâs toddler st4lker partly admitted to doing it a few times. Then other mutuals in kyoshiâs toxic social circle clearly began joining in. Making side accounts where they tried to spin a false narrative of nonbinarydaveâs daughter being one of their alters (ableist as hell.) And also trying to do it in such a way that they thought would trigger nonibnarydaveâs psychosis (also ableist as hell.) If youâre going to drag Connie for their mistakes and never let them move on from those mistakes then itâs only fair to do that to people you agree with who also do toxic/bigoted things. ALso the fact that your wording here suggests that you think panphobia and aphobia arenât real makes me doubt this claim even more. Exclus and their allies are notorious for mislabeling inclus disagreeing with them as stalking. âconnie said that they would release that info at a later time and the minor began to argue with them that they had a responsibility regardless of their complicated relationship with age. in this argument connie for a time kept their age ambiguous and at one point told the minor (who confirmed in a later ask that they were severely traumatized by adults) that they obviously werenât traumatized. connie quickly deleted this ask and any mentions of it and the next post they reblogged was about how wrong it was to try and quantify or discount othersâ trauma. on my old blog i @ed them in the replies and asked if they had just done that. connie admitted to it and said it was fucked up but quickly blocked + deleted my comment. i canât remember whether or not connie apologized to the minor, they may have? but yeah. i thought that was pretty weird.â] I do agree with some of the concern here that adults shouldnât over expose minors in discourse. Iâve been contemplating this for awhile myself. And trying to figure out how to take better steps to avoid including minors who are triggered by discourse in discourse, especially. HOWEVER I have one little issue with this addition to the callout. If that is the case then exclus and their allies need to practice this as well. You cannot ignore the fact that the reason a lot of minors are getting involved in exclus discourse is due to adult exclus and their allies forcing minors to pick a side in the discourse. Yâall are not at all exempt from this problem. I still remember an ex mutual of mine trying to convince a minor to agree that aces canât face corrective rape. And based on how aggressive it got with me when I tried to avoid giving an opinion on the matter, I canât imagine that it wouldâve reacted better to the minor refusing to give an opinion or to the minor outright disagreed. Refusing to put these standards on exclus and their allies is both hypocritical and quite frankly very transparent. The claims about them glorifying dark topics on AO3 through their fics also seems unfortunately legit. I mean those asks of shaming people who ask their viewers to not romanticize or glorify abusive relationships in their works is very damning. Iâm very disappointed to see that Connie has taken being an inclus to the point of validating antis anti culture wholeheartedly. I canât think of much more to add to my opinion on that part of the callout. As for the issue of Connie interacting with pro shippers in the past, I do know that this claim is legit. Iâve seen it before and so has Breeze. This was why for a brief time we decided to stop following their blogs. Because it was triggering to have pro shippers put on our dash. And sometimes we just donât feel itâs worth it to always let people weâre platforming know theyâre rbing triggering stuff. So sometimes we just quietly unfollow and choose to not interact until weâre sure theyâre filtering what they do and donât rb in some way. I definitely donât agree with that behavior. And if theyâre still doing that Iâll deplatform again. âThe anon asks: âA weird question but do you know any other stimboard blogs with your follow criteria? (No radfems, racists, fandom antis, etc.) I was hoping to find more through your âsimilar blogsâ but a lot have no anti-antis for their DNI or allow truscum/transmeds and exclus. :(â
The user responds: âI know of @turtle-pond-stims, @outofangband, and @kinaesthetics! đđ" â[ID: A cropped screenshot of an ask sent by Connie from their now-deactivated blog, butch-with-a-tortoise.
Connie says: âhey anon I have safe stim blogs. dm me if you want them. And radfems/bigots arenât allowed to interact. For my own safety (because the community is honestly terrifying) I canât publicly say on my blogs that Iâm safe for proshippers/kinky people but I try to spread word how I can.â] [ID: Screenshot of a post by evilwriter37, which reads, âIâve been seeing posts about fandom police leaving ao3, and itâs like: Good. We donât want you here anyway. Go find your own fanfiction site.â
The post is tagged â#Fandom #AO3 #Antis #Purity Cultureâ and has 87 notes. It was posted on December 21st, 2020.
There is a reply from main-to-outofangband-andothers saying: âthere are Silm antis on that site who are against Russigon (Maedhros and Fingon) not because theyâre cousins but because theyâre both male (coded)â] [ID: A screenshot of an anonymous (though signed off as being from outofangband) ask sent to evilwriter37, which says, âMelkor and Viggo solidarity is âLook thereâs nothing wrong with keeping my enemy chained up in my personal chambers at all times so please just focus on the war efforts and Iâll focus on the boy* in my chambersâ -@outofbangand.
*boy used figuratively @ antisâ
The user responds: âPfft!!! Hahaha! Youâre absolutely right! (And Viggo does refer to Hiccup in canon as âmy boyâ).â] I canât really say anything to refute this. Because these are all posts of Connie outright stating that they disagree with antis. And not only sympathize with anti antis but are fully against antis. Looks like very damning evidence. Although ngl Iâm not entirely against kinky blogs as a whole? Just so long as they truly stay in their lane with their kink content. And donât force it on others in any way. Or shame people who are triggered by their kinks. It is true that being entirely against kinky blogs no matter what is dipping your toes into swerf rhetoric. Tbh Iâm not going to look at the rest. This is pretty much all I need to make a decision on whether or not Iâll continue platforming Connie. Though I will try to get some more perspective from people who I interact with as well. Because I feel better about making a more definitive decision after doing that. Also in general please donât not try to get an opinion from me on how I feel about syscourse. A lot of the claims about Connieâs age weirdness and them using their alters as a shield feel like syscourse to me. Especially if this callout was written by one or several singlets. Singlets should never be trying to judge how legit someoneâs system is ever. Even if their system friends encourage them to. You can call out a horrible person with a system without trying to insinuate that theyâre lying about their alters in some way. Doing otherwise is ableist ESPECIALLY if youâre a singlet. Also in general the reason I stay out of discussions of judging how someone is handling their systems is because itâs syscourse and syscourse is triggering for my system and I. If this post was an attempt to get me to give an opinion on the validity of Connieâs system I donât appreciate it. And I would appreciate not being dragged into such matters again, thank you.
In general thereâs like a few parts of this callout that feel legit. Which is unfortunately cluttered with obvious bias and obsessive hatred of Connie. Iâm not here to stan or coddle Connie. I know they are not a perfect person. Especially since no human being in the world is perfect. But I feel the way this callout was created was very sloppy since a lot of the evidence was messy at best. And some points were very hypocritical as well as there being some no true scotsman moments from OP. In acting like exclus never do any of the thing that they tried to call out Connie for. Which is behavior that I am not a fan of. This is why people need to be more careful about callouts and like make roughdrafts and have a more unbiased person helping them if they donât feel they can do it on their own. Iâm even trying to make a resolve to do better at that myself. So itâs not like Iâm unwilling to put my money where my mouth is. Anyways those are all my thoughts on this messy callout. And tbh Iâm not going to get too much more heavily involved in this. Because I need to focus on more immediately serious rl stuff more often, like doing what I can to get out of the hellish landscape of a house I currently am stuck in.
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this is just vague rambling, I agree with the sentiment of that one post like âdonât be a creepy adult, have boundaries when you talk with minorsâ but it feels like itâs directed at adults being creepy on purpose which means folks who donât need the message can rally around it but that doesnât address what to do about adults who are consciously acting predatory (because adults doing that shit on purpose wonât listen).
(imo thatâs one of the problems with Vent Posts As Rallying Points, bc theyâre not anything new & itâs not anything actionableâat least to the people who are willing to take action)
so maybe one way to make a more effective message is to be like âhey fellow adults if you see red flags in how someoneâs acting with a minor itâs up to us to know how & when to interveneâ which... isnât necessarily a simple question with a simple answer
sort of related, I donât think this was intentional but I just remember seeing in passing someone who gave me. really uncomfy vibes of putting their self-worth & mental distress onto the people around them, which, I think, included minors, & thatâs a lot harder to know what to do withâI feel like thereâs not enough discussion about stuff like this, which isnât necessarily predatory, but is a huge boundary problem (for adult peers as well as minors, but itâs a lot harder to navigate for minors since itâs like. 1) them interacting with an adult WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER, and 2) a sensitive topic they might not have experience with and might feel more pressured by)
and I think the convo for adults to have with adult peers really boils down to
1) if youâre not sure you can be the bare minimum of Responsible Adult itâs partially up to you to do what you can to keep minors out of your space (notices, byfs, blocking, etc)
2) even if a minor is a friend and a good listener it is A TERRIBLE IDEA TO RELY HEAVILY ON THEM FOR EMOTIONAL SUPPORT, OR TO TALK TOO OPENLY ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS WITH THEM, IT PUTS THEM IN A REALLY WEIRD POSITION!!! IT CAN MESS THEM UP!!!!! FIND A PEER AND/OR GET THERAPY
3) what do you do when you see a peer that seems to have trouble enforcing functional boundaries with a minor? obviously itâs situational whether itâs something that can be talked over with the individual or whether itâs something a minor needs to be directly warned about, but then that goes into how do you talk to a friend about boundary issues? how do you talk to a stranger who seems unaware of their own boundary issues? how do you talk to a minor when youâre noticing Something Kind Of Concerning going on? because in these circumstances you probably want your approach to be nonconfrontational and nonjudgmental so that the other party would be receptive to hearing you out, but like, yknow, not everyone on the internetâs gonna have training in like. mediation. might be easier to navigate in a closed community where people are familiar with each other and there are moderators.
anyway those are the three main points that come to mind when it comes to what adults should consider with their peers. I mean thereâs also stuff like âwhat to do if a minor or adult is intensionally stirring up conflictâ but I feel like that falls a bit outside peer-to-peer considerations.
#my ramblings#csa implied ///#kind of?#ok to rb I guess but Iâm not gonna have any more coherent thoughts on this#long post
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Melvin and the Silent Diagnosis for a Brilliantly Broken Psyche
Hypothetical Diagnosis Insecurity masked with narcissistic tendencies characterized with compulsive obsessions driven by blatant autism, and no that is not an immature insult I test extremely highly for Asperger's myself Here's the Evidence: (I will state before hand that Melvin-borg is a completely separate character in my mind, and thus will not be included in this particular theory.  Melvin decided not to turn out like him, so they are canonically separate characters) He is obviously and frequently inspired by George and Harold, but his deeply embedded fear of rejection makes him dangerously bitter, and it doesn't help that everytime he breaks out of this protective shell, he is rejected or betrayed once again. Itâs important to note that while he may be high-functioning (aka: Aspergers) he is still Autistic. Thatâs because Aspergerâs is not a form of autism- it is autism. Period. And any kind of autism or mental attypicality left untreated can develop in to many, many other severe mental disorders, or, in general, make life a metric heck ton harder and complicated than it already is. I also need to confess that I test highly positively for autism myself as well as being an INTP female (Myers-Briggs Personality Test). Not to brag, but all that combined with my naturally creative nature makes me rare af, but it also means I can't communicate or handle stress #liketheothergirls, so that has lead me to being/feeling bullied and ostracized.  I also have anxiety and depression issue which run in my family, and mild insomnia, and may or may not be relapsing into an eating disorder. Paired with psychical problems like acid reflux and severe neck tension, health, whether psychical or mental is of uttermost importance to me.  It suffices to say, autism is not easy to deal with and if not taken care for properly a person, especially if not made at least aware of what autism truly is, it can truly ruin their life. Combined with the neglectful nature of his parents (at least in the books) I and many others in this fandom truly believe Melvin is at least autistically coded. Not only does this fit the archetype of his character but it also fits the theme of the books to a TEE. At its core, CU, of all things, is a children's book series, about living your best life despite not being ânormal.â Even characters like the teachers or Mr Krupp who strive for ânormalityâ are shown to actually have deeply repressed creativity, or, in some cases, deep trauma from their own childhoods. It suffices to say that I resonate deeply with Melvin. Say what you want about him or me, I was able to relate to him the second he spoke his first line in the second book. Sorry to turn this into a long vent, but I feel it is best to use myself to support this theory as well as harder evidence, even if it is mostly a means of self-therapy. To start, we both are obsessed with school even to a detrimental degree. Ever since head-start (Pre-K but a million times better), these "book-smarts" were the first thing I ever truly excelled at. When the other kids bullied (or as I now know as teasing) me, I would lose myself in a stack of homework or a book 2-3 grades past my grade level (this is before I drew or wrote as a main hobby). Similarly, Melvin is rarely seen without a book or gadget, just like me. We both over analyze things and hide our feelings. We both have intense crushes on others but are terrified to dare express them, or do but to nothing but awkwardness. We were both science kids, and fascinated by words and/or numbers alone (I still am just in a more artistic way). We both struggle to communicate and relate to others. We both have a unusual sense of humor and are highly observant of surroundings all the while missing whatâs in front of our noses. We both have interests that quickly spiral into obsessions and dropping the obsession only when sick of it. We both practice similar forms of stimming. We both not only thrive but crave control and structure with the world around us, even to the point of being "control freaks" and creating odd habits, routines, and rituals regardless of whether they are necessary or make sense. We both have an intense fear of intimacy and rejection to the point of practicing self-isolation and in some cases self harm or other unhealthy coping methods (seen with Melvin over eating sweets or over working himself. For me itâs disordered eating or self flagellation, something I have all but completely dropped but still) We also both tend to see ourselves as inferior to others and attempt to mask those feelings with a superiority complex (I feel bad for my siblings but I didnât know what I was doing, and no it was not abusive just sibling rivalry and Iâm the oldest anyway, and we are country kids and understand ârough-housingâ =/= using each other as a punching bag, but accidents happen I'm sorry) We both seem to become easily overstimulated and have explosive mental and emotional breakdowns when things just . . . become too much However the harsh divide between male and female and fictional and nonfictional means we both present certain traits differently. Whereas he presents a more linear line of thinking my mind is overwhelmingly sporadic. Also, I have over sensitivities to touch and light (and sometimes certain noises, but not anything not normal? Wfk.) But maybe he does have oversensitivity but I can't think of an example off the top of my head. Enough about me however. I know Melvin and autism has been done to death.  Hell, I just did it to death.  My actual theory is more on the inner mechanisms of his mind and predicting how he will develop should the series allow for full character development. Also, similar to my Krupp theory, I will be listing his crimes out and give him a proper sentence for his age and maturity level (which will be light as I am sympathetic to his plight).  This is already getting too long, so Imma try to finally get to the point. Characters with autism are honestly a mixed bag, sometimes there as standardized as my mystery Daddy Sherlock Holmes and other times they are as subtle as Pearl or Peridot from Steven Universe (has Rebbaca Sugar confirmed this? sorry). Honestly, it does distress me that autism is almost always used to have an evil genius character or some weird side character for brownie/ diversity points. (this makes me a bit hypocritical I guess, considering my own stories. I guess tropes are tropes for a reason) And while Dav Pilky May not be subtle with his scholastic politics or humor his one spectacular tool in his writing books has always been, when it comes to his characters, showing instead of telling. This is something I latched on to even as a kid, and I was already thinking up theories on the characters before I even knew character theories were a thing.  Like what happened to Harold's Dad (hint, hint).  Why was Harold's sister rarely used?  Does Mr Krupp actually like their comics (a now accepted theory, but not just min? And many many others I'm probably never gonna write.  It took until how long in the books to reveal George and Harold have ADHD? Before that they were simply described as being as smart as Melvin but just in different ways. Personally I feel that autism is inverted ADHD. This is an opinion Iâve recently formed so if Iâm wrong bloody attack me in the comments. Anyway, Melvin presenting autism makes him the perfect foil to George and Haroldsâ more sporadic antics. The only true difference between autistic folks and ADHD folks is that those with autism tend to crave a structured environment full of rules, and set goals to achieve, while such an environment is HELL to children with ADHD (aka:George and Harold). (Even though if with adults they can trust, children with ADHD thrive in structured environments if they are surrounded by adults or authority figures they can trust.) I know some will tell me ADHD is on the spectrum, but I just learned this like actually the other day and donât fully understand it. My prediction is that Melvin will eventually and naturally mellow out if just because staying so high strung all the time is a huge waste of mental energy.  I know good as hell I had to.  Also, he mellowed our in the books and went from a screeching revenge exacting lil narcissistic white boi prick to a person who simply wants to pursue his interests and even helping George and Harold (selfishly, but help nonetheless). He even went from enjoying the fame and attention of hero-ing to realizing it did not fufill him. Indeed quite the opposite.  His true passion lay in solving world problems through science, and I don't think the ending for him in the books could have been any more perfect considering his character.  In the Netflix show, similar to how I think Krupp's personalities are merging, I believe that Melvin will eventually become more like his Broski alter ego (which I calmly demand more of).  Overall, given that this show needs to go back to the status quo more often than not, I don't think his core character will ever change, and it doesn't need to.  Multiple times throughout the series he's been shown to crave friendship from George and Harold, despite audibly hating him . Textbook Tsundere, I know.  He will form a friendly rivalry with George and Harold, I have almost no doubt about that, taking the season 1 finale, season 2 finale, season 3 first episode, and halloween special into consideration. (Yeah, if someone will send me clips I will give them my eternal gratefulness) To conclude, because by god this is long, Melvin is, SHOCKER, just a little kid.  A little kid who likes muffins and dolls and has big hopes and dreams.  A little kid whose love for science and unrecognized creativity is channeled into making inventions that are even more impressive than those of Professor P (sorry P).  But he is a little kid with his own needs and stuggles which at this point remain unmet.  His parents are canonically neglectful, I cannot repeat that enough times.  The effects of neglect are a hell-hole of its own regardless of growing up with undiagnosed autism.  But that's just a theory- Alright, that was a banger, I guess next up is Melvin-borg since writing this has given me some interesting ideas for him. Letâs see how long this hyperfocus train will go!
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"You're gonna regret that winky emoji"
Buckle down, because if this was a rollercoaster it'd be the Tower of Terror. It's also very long, TLDR at the bottom, if you can find it..
Now, just as a little disclaimer, the person involved may not read reddit but her son very well might. So, I've changed names, places and specific details, and I'm not going to describe the person's appearance. I will however, be telling you of a revenge that started off petty in nature, has since had a pro outcome - and is still ongoing.
I'm a University student (f,19) in *Canada*, studying *history*. Since September, I've been struggling with both my physical and mental health. The problem with a free healthcare system is that sometimes there is long waiting lists for mental health services and despite being put on medication, my condition was worsening. I'd gone to a member of staff, who we shall call PC, to explain the situation. Initially, she was helpful, giving me extensions on assignments and special considerations for my exams. I passed the first semester with a whopping 62%, impressive given the fact I hadn't really been into any lectures.
After the Christmas break, my mental health was so bad that I ended up in hospital. I also struggled to get back into lectures as planned and submit much work. I was seeing the student support team the university had supplied, and the mental health team the hospital had provided. I have a personality disorder and sometimes find it hard to control my emotions, and PC is well aware of this. However, she is going -above and beyond- her normal duties and it's starting to get a little distressing. She'd offer to come to my GP appointments with me, constantly email me (3-4 separate email chains a day), and then got my personal phone number off the university system and started texting me. Being naive, I thought that having her phone number would be useful, as I check my texts significantly faster than my emails.
What. A bad. Idea.
What was confirming attendance for meetings quickly turned into "hope to see you soon", and asking how things in my personal life were going. The event that knocked me for six was when she turned up at my GP surgery after I had told her my appointment went badly. Luckily I was on the other side of town by this point, but she sent me a string of four texts starting with "I'm at the GP, where are you?" and ending in "I'm not going to nag you" before ringing me 3 times despite me hanging up IMMEDIATELY the first time.
(Side note at this point, she very obviously cares about me, but she's incredibly overbearing).
I had gone in for a routine procedure at the hospital to try and sort my physical health out (a cystoscopy, if you fancy a cringe), so she sent me a text asking how it had gone. I'd been put on the same antibiotics as I was before, and when I tried to explain to the consultant that I was already on them and that the pain hadn't stopped in months, I started getting a little angry and upset. Not enough to cause a scene - but enough for them to firmly tell me to leave. I explained this to PC and she replied with "stop arguing ;)". Now, given the nature of the procedure, the position of responsibility PC has and the fact it's coming from her personal phone number, I found this extremely inappropriate.
This kind of behaviour went on for a couple months, I'm trying to keep her at arms length - I still need her in terms of getting assignments in and stuff, but I don't want her reaching in to my personal life - but she keeps trying. She's told me repeatedly that I will have a "fit to work" procedure put in place due to the lack of assignments put in, which would decide my future at the university - and that the options would be getting suspended or getting expelled. This added a load of anxiety to my life and ultimately destroyed my mental health, so after a *not so helpful* session with the mental health team, I submitted the worst essay I've ever written with a sarcastic note at the bottom (still got 18%, success!). In hindsight, this was probably the worst way of trying to get back at her, as PC called me in for another meeting, but not before ringing my boss and my mental health consultant asking to attend my therapy sessions, and then telling me I'm "making it more than it needs to be".
This meeting was hell.
She started off by stroking my knee - not sensually, but wayyyy too close to be comfortable - which put my back up immediately.
She tried to get me to cancel the submission, which I wouldn't, and then told me I'm going to get her fired or reprimanded if I don't. (hello, emotional blackmail).
I repeatedly tried to explain I was struggling, and it's a case of mentally having to fight myself to get out of bed in the mornings, let alone research and write essays, do complex maths and attend 12 lectures a week. She kept shouting me down with things like "Just because you have a mental health condition doesn't mean you're special" and "it took me 3 years of intensive therapy to sort my head out, so you should be fine by August".
Eventually I was frustrated, sobbing and bent over, head to my knees in the chair. This cut off the circulation to my legs after 40 MINUTES of feeling trapped in her office, so when I finally got the courage to leave, I physically couldn't. I made it halfway across the room before stumbling. I didn't fall, I had hold of the table. PC shot up from her chair like she'd just won the lottery and HELD ME FROM BEHIND. I got out as quickly as I could. She later sent me a text (at 22:50) telling me that "it was really valuable".
Finally, the revenge;
I was so angry I decided I was going to come down on this woman like a ton of bricks. I spent 8 hours collating the year's emails and texts, annotating them all and putting them in a folder alongside evidence I was actively seeking medical help - a condition of the university for students who are ill. I affectionately called the folder The Brick, because if all else fails I'm going to hit her with it. This folder weighs at least 5kg, just to give you an idea of the amount of trees I had to kill for this. I submitted a complaints form for 3 separate issues (emails and texts/blackmail/physical contact), as well as a designated form for harassment. This would normally go to PC, but since I was complaining about her, I took it to THE DEAN. Phase 1 complete.
Phase 2 was the picking apart of her emails and making a case for mistreatment. The fit to work panel I attended (after 5 months of being told that it would happen), were going to expel me completely, until I whipped out The Brick and showed them 8 cases of unprofessionalism in ONE EMAIL. My "sentence" was reduced to only suspension, meaning I still have access to my uni email address, and student union services. Useful for phase 3.
Phase 3 is taking my case to the University Legal Team and holding this over the Dean's head until a satisfactory outcome is achieved, or I'll take it to court. I'll keep you updated.
And so, dear redditors, after successfully enacting phases 1 and 2, I can confirm PC has gone on 6 MONTHS of "sick leave". Let me tell you exactly why she's not on sick leave and has in fact been suspended - she was supposed to be on my fit to work panel, 3 DAYS after going on this sick leave; the whole department has been told not to contact her and if they have an urgent matter, they must send it to a different person through an online reporting system which will be "more closely monitored". We were also told that she would not be replying to emails because she's "ill", which made me laugh because she'd been wanting me to write 5000 word essays despite the fact I am genuinely ill. Given the nature of PC's role at the university (handling sensitive information, dealing with vulnerable students), this will be a major blemish on her record at the least, and could well cost her her job and prevent her from getting a new one in the same field. I have since left the university for health reasons, no doubtedly made worse by the actions of PC.
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TLDR; tutor at the university harasses me in more ways than one, causes a severe decline in my mental health. I complain with 8 months of evidence and get her suspended/nearly fired, potential legal case pending.
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Blue Blood [Part 15]
Universe: Detroit: Become Human
Rating: PG-13 (swearing)
Characters: Connor, Evelyn (OC)
Tags: interspecies, romance, fluff, detective, law enforcement, original character, continuation, sex
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âWell, that was...an adventure,â Evelyn noted as they departed.Â
âAnd informative,â Connor added, thoughtful.Â
âYeah? Anything in particular come to light?â she prompted. They pulled out of the estateâs grounds and were back on the main road quickly, the destination: her apartment. Theyâd done more than enough investigating for one day, a simple arrest leading to looking for a missing person leading to a chat with the matron of a powerful crime family.Â
Forbes obviously needed her weekend break by now, he assumed, so he was fine with letting the trail be for now. They could pick it up again tomorrow.Â
Glancing at her, he said, âI think Elias and Ămelie were lovers.âÂ
She nodded. âI was getting that impression, too.âÂ
âUnless Elias crossed her somehow, I donât see a motive for her being involved in his death,â he went on.Â
âHugo might have,â she suggested. âIf they were lovers and he found out...âÂ
âItâs possible,â he agreed. âBut I donât think Hugo wouldâve cared. It seems their marriage is more one of business than romance.âÂ
She inclined her head. âItâs very common. Especially with that comment Ămelie made -- about Hugo being âoverjoyedâ that a woman is interested in him.âÂ
âExtra-marital affairs,â he said.Â
âOr an open marriage,â Evelyn offered. âThose are pretty common these days, too.â They were both quiet for a moment, then, before she checked, âFind anything of note while you were looking around?âÂ
He shook his head. âNothing possibly crime-related. No recent blood stains, footprints out of place, nothing in the air...the house, at least, is crime-free.âÂ
âUnless everything is digital,â she noted.Â
âLikely. I found it odd there wasnât a computer in the study -- just a TV set.âÂ
âAnd how close the desk was to it -- Iâm betting there was something behind there, the TV was just a better mask than a painting would be.âÂ
âHeavier, harder to move, more innocent -- I can see it,â he agreed.Â
âIâll just file that one away for later,â she said, âin case we ever raid the place.âÂ
Smart. Heâd already done so by the time she verbally declared it. There was something intriguing, even comforting, about the knowledge that they followed the same train of thought, he noted.Â
Like they really werenât all that different, androids and humans.
He asked then, âSo...you know French?â He was impressed.
She laughed. âActually, no -- that was a bluff. I know two sentences in French. That was one.â
Amused, he asked, âAnd whatâs the other?â
She grinned and, between chuckles, forced out, âOĂš sont les toilettes?â
Where is the bathroom?
He laughed. Of course sheâd know one profound statement -- and a ridiculous query. âWell, your pronunciation is fairly accurate,â he noted.
She shook her head. âYeah, I practiced that.â
âWhy?â he prompted. âWhat drove you to learn exactly two phrases, and those two in particular?â
Chuckling again, she answered, âI-I didnât, really. I picked them up from TV. Films, I think. I do this thing sometimes where Iâll repeat foreign languages, try to work out the pronunciation. And sometimes they stick.â
âAnd those two stuck?â he checked, doubtful.
âYeah. The former cause it was difficult so it took a lot of work, the latter cause it was so simple,â she explained.
âYour mind is a curious thing,â he noted.
âFrom my perspective, my mind is fine. Yours is the curious one,â she countered.
A fair point, he agreed. He doubted humans and androids would ever fully understand each other; as he understood it, the way they thought was entirely different despite the many similarities. His thoughts could be broken down into Binary if he dug deep enough, he was sure, and he was actively recording everything he saw and heard as video and audio files.
Humans often thought either in pictures and sounds or words, some of them hearing their thoughts as verbal communication and others only as abstract intention. Neither aligned very well with how androids thought.
They were so different in their cores, humans and androids, despite how visually similar they were.
That thought managed to loop back around to another from earlier that day, and he asked, âMay I ask you a personal question?âÂ
She smirked, amused. âLet me just answer that indefinitely: yes, you can ask. Whether or not I answer is another matter, but you can always ask.âÂ
That was good to know. âYour leg,â he began, âyou said there were metal pins in the bones?âÂ
She hesitated, that simple inaction telling him a great deal -- namely that this was a very sensitive subject. He could understand that, he thought; she mustâve faced a great deal of trauma to have received such a wound. Psychological after-effects were common to the point of being expected.
At length, she offered, âUh...yeah. Old wound, permanent damage,â she hinted.Â
He absorbed that, thoughtful, then ventured, âMay I ask what happened?âÂ
She gave a smile, but it was strained -- tense. âAccident involving a tower of weights. They fell over on top of me. My leg got the worst of it. Woke up three days later in a hospital bed.âÂ
That...definitely sounded traumatic, he admitted. âWhere did this happen, Brass Balls?â he asked, concerned. If this happened at that shop...well, he already knew it was barely up to code. This would be the kind of thing to shut it down, and...thinking of Quincy...he really didnât want to do that.
Nowadays his gym is his family, Evelyn had said.
Connor didnât want to be the one to take that away.
Shaking her head, she hedged, âNo, this was...before I graduated. Had this...injury...my whole adult life.âÂ
Her pauses, hesitating over certain words, got his attention more than what she was saying. She was implying much deeper psychological damage than she realized, he thought -- possibly more than she was aware of, herself.Â
And he found himself both impressed and confused as to how she wouldâve ended up an officer with such issues. Officers had to have pristine physical health to get accepted; Evelyn had a bad leg, it seemed. Yet, heâd never seen her limping or displaying such an injury. The only time she favored her leg was when she was sparring, and even then she was just keeping it out of danger.Â
He noted, âYou donât seem to be bothered by it.âÂ
âIt doesnât slow me down, if thatâs what you mean,â she returned. âI just try to stay conscious of it.âÂ
Hesitating, he asked, âDoes it hurt?âÂ
At once, he could feel her tension skyrocket. It was such a bizarre thing -- she barely changed in a physical sense, only her throat giving a strain before relaxing again, yet he was aware of just how much that question had distressed her.Â
She answered, subdued, âSometimes.âÂ
Sometimes, he repeated. The way she said that made him think that it didnât hurt often -- but when it did, it was very painful.Â
In his mind, he tried to construct how her leg might be functioning based on the information heâd been given, and ultimately he determined that either the pins could fall out of alignment -- or sheâd suffered nerve damage and sometimes it acted up.Â
Either would account for sudden, unpredictable spikes of pain, he thought. And he made a decision then to keep an eye on her, just in case she fell prey to those surges when he was around. He wasnât exactly built with physical therapy in mind, so he couldnât offer a great deal of help, but heâd do whatever she needed.
Then she said, more sharply, âAbout this...I need you to not talk about it. Donât bring it up with anyone.â
Surprised, he checked, âAt the precinct?â
âIn general,â she corrected. âNo one knows -- I donât want anyone to know. Outside of my family, itâs -- it doesnât exist.â
He could see that, he thought. If it came to light that her leg was permanently damaged, she might lose her job. Sheâd told him that it was her career that kept her going, kept her from falling into depression. It was clearly vital to her, and more so, she was a fantastic officer.
Her case history was more than enough to prove that, but over the last few days heâd seen some of it in action. Even visibly exhausted and overworked, sheâd still managed two-hour drives and active chases and hours of research. Her work ethic was admirable.
She was valuable in this profession.
âAlright,â he agreed easily. âI wonât bring it up. For context, though, may I ask who does know?â
âMy parents and my sisters -- sister,â she corrected.
He sidestepped that particular landmine, checking, âThen, your husband...?â
âDoesnât know,â she confirmed with a nod. âI never told him.â
Curious, he asked, âWhy not?â
She hesitated over that question, hedging, and after a few moments of struggling for a response, she said, âPlead the fifth.â
...Noted.
That was highly suspicious, but he supposed everyone had their secrets. It wasnât his place to pick apart her brain and try to figure out why she chose to keep some things quiet over others. She had her reasons, he was sure -- and those reasons were probably traumatic. Best not to prod at them.
Nodding, he relented, replying, âThen I take it you never wanted me to know, either.â
She inclined her head. âNot really. But there wasnât anything to be done about it. Metal detectors are my bane.â
His, too. âI wasnât certain Iâd set it off,â he said, thoughtful. âI wouldâve thought CyberLife wouldâve found a way to prevent that by now -- they already succeeded in protecting us from electricity, so it seemed logical.â
âWell, are you magnetic?â she asked.
âNo.â
âThatâs probably about as much protection as they felt you needed,â she said. âUnaffected by electricity and magnets -- boom, youâre safe from all the big things. Keeping you from setting off metal detectors was probably determined as being a luxury, and lord knows big companies arenât keen on providing luxuries.â
He could definitely see that.
âIâm surprised you set off the metal detector, too,â she began. âI thought you were plastic?â
âExternally, yes,â he agreed, âbut internally thereâs still metal casing and things similar to bones.â Patting his chest, he explained, âKeeps everything sturdy and in place.â
âMakes sense,â she noted, nodding. âSo you have, like, a rib cage?â
âNot so much. More of just a spine, shoulders, arms, legs...the frame is simplistic. Its design is more to keep all our biocomponents and parts in place while keeping us light in weight.âÂ
âCool.â
He smirked, amused.
They fell into small talk then, mostly Evelyn sharing information about L.A., which he appreciated. He could look up the history of the city from its founding in 1835 or even earlier, but none of that would account for a citizenâs perspective. Her insight was invaluable.
The most important things were obviously how the city functioned currently, but he was curious about everything. Like Detroit, it had a storied past, entire books written about this one city. So old and intrinsic to the U.S. as they both were, they were living monuments of human achievement and persistence.
Evelyn didnât know much beyond when sheâd begun working at the precinct a decade earlier, but it was more than enough to get him up to speed. Combined with his foot tour the day prior and he was compiling a great deal of information about the city as a whole.
It was a contradiction, this city -- simultaneously one of the richest and poorest of U.S. cities. The SubTube had seen to that, he thought, at once both despondent and impressed with the transportation achievement. Its speed and capability were incredible and priceless, but the effects L.A.âs populace were suffering for its release was...painful.
He was worried Evelyn would end up one of those displaced by its appearance. It would be a disaster, both for her and all those she helped on a daily basis. He could only hope that, if it came to that, her husband would be able to keep her off the streets.
Following that thought, he asked, âDetective? What does your husband do? Heâs employed, correct?â
She seemed surprised by the question but answered, âYeah. Heâs a manager at a hotel. La Esencia,â she explained.
He ran a quick search on it, concluding itâd been built in 2027. Reviews stated it was smaller but comfortable, four stories tall with ten-to-fourteen rooms on each floor. It was ranked as four-star and just recently began plans to expand out of L.A.
What had begun as one hotel became three in 2033, then six in 2038, and now itâd been announced that they were going to start opening hotels across the country. Construction had yet to begin.
And Richard Sinclair was the manager at one location, it seemed.
âThatâs likely lucrative,â he noted.
âIt certainly was,â she agreed.
Curious, he checked, âWhat changed?â
âThe revolution,â she answered. âMost of the employees had been androids. Richard said only two came back after everything settled -- cut down from thirty-two,â she hinted. âThe workload on all of them has skyrocketed.â
A little shocked, he checked, âDid he not have any human employees?â
âSix, yeah, and theyâre still on,â she agreed, âbut theyâve all had to take on heavier loads. Granted, tourism plummeted in the last month, too, so theyâre not having to wrangle the raw numbers they once had, but still. Itâs hard on them.â
And Connor heard the sympathy in her voice as she spoke, the almost reluctant affection. She was concerned, he realized.
âYouâre worried about him,â he concluded.
Her shoulders dipped a fraction. âYeah. I worry. He used to run the front desk, then worked his way up to manager. He knows the ins and outs of every part of the job. But that just means he can -- and will -- do everything.â
Drawing a picture, he suggested, âAnd youâre concerned heâll hurt himself doing so.âÂ
âHeâs hurt himself before, doing so,â she answered quietly. Shaking her head, she said, âHe works too hard sometimes. He messed up his knee just from how much walking he does around the hotel.â
And now Connor was seeing a parallel between husband and wife. Both of them seemed to be very hard workers, willing to put themselves through Hell for their careers.
With a sigh, she went on, âFrom a personal standpoint, the revolution happened at a terrible time. Itâs bad enough just being separated like this -- and now weâre both bogged down with extra work on top of it. Itâs chaos, everywhere, and we canât even be there for each other...â
Sympathetic but not apologetic, he replied, âI wonât apologize. We needed our freedom. But I feel for your individual situation.â
She gave the barest smile, reaching over to give his shoulder a rub. âI donât expect apologies. And I agree with you, Connor. None of this is your fault,â she told him, âexcept all the good parts.â
It was surprising, how much relief he felt from that simple statement. âThank you,â he said, sincere.
Her smile warmed, then, and she replied, âThank you, too.â
Touched, he could only respond, âYouâre welcome.â
--
The rest of the day passed quietly -- which, after the last few days, was preferred. It was barely four in the afternoon when they made it back to the apartment, and Evelyn was more than ready to get in some relaxation. Connor, on the other hand, never quite stopped thinking about the case.Â
She made herself a late lunch, then sat down to catch up on the news. He watched absently, his mind elsewhere, ultimately concluding that nothing worthy of national news had occurred since yesterday evening. He did, however, catch a brief news report about âthe first android assault caseâ in L.A.Â
Evelyn glanced over at him with a smirk. âSee? Told you thereâd be a statement.âÂ
He couldnât withhold a grin, pleased. Sheâd been right. Then, settling on a different thought, he said, âIâm curious about something.â
âWassat?â she prompted.
âHave you ever...had an android?â he asked her, though he had difficulty with the phrasing. He found he couldnât ask if sheâd owned an android, the very idea scraping at him.
She shook her head. âNo, actually, funny though that might sound.â
âWhy would that sound funny?â he wondered.
âCause these days, pretty much every human bought at least one android,â she pointed out.
âYet there were only 120 million across the planet,â he countered. Now closer to 100 million, he knew, but he opted not to think about that.
âFair point. The answer is no,â she told him.
âSo youâve never had an android?â he pressed. It wasnât that he doubted her, he just wanted to be sure. He told himself as much.
âNope. Never.â Then, waving her hand, she corrected, âWell, Richard did, when I first met him. A secretary,â she explained. âNamed her Joanne.âÂ
âBut he didnât keep her?â Connor checked.Â
Shaking her head, Evelyn explained, âI told him I wasnât comfortable, having an android in the house. So he sold her. No idea what happened to her since,â she said, a note of melancholy to her voice.Â
He felt a bit the same, a part of him wondering what happened to Joanne and if she was even still alive after all this time. Generally androids didnât last that long, either due to being replaced or mistreated until killed.Â
A memory rose to the fore: Eden Club, the back room, androids of numerous appearances standing in lines to be diagnosed after sustaining damage. At the time heâd had other focus, had felt indifferent to the sight, but Hankâs horror and the perspective of hindsight painted a different picture. Now he felt...sorrow, a yearning to go back and help those he couldnât at the time.Â
He hoped Joanne had found a better life.Â
But, for now, he tried to stay in the present. âYou werenât comfortable?â he echoed, confused to hear Evelyn having that reaction to androids. He pointed out, âYouâre fine with me.âÂ
âYouâre my partner,â she told him. âJoanne was a...servant. I donât like that -- never did. Donât like being served, like Iâm incapable of handling my own affairs. I got why he bought Joanne in the first place, though -- running a hotel isnât easy. Secretaries help. I told him Iâd feel better if he hired a human rather than use an android, he said androids are better with computing -- we argued,â she hinted. âUltimately I got my way...and Iâve regretted it ever since.âÂ
Concerned, Connor asked, âWhy?âÂ
Shaking her head, she explained, âI put my comfort over her safety. Richardâs a gentle one,â she told him. âHe never mistreated her and I wouldnât have allowed it anyway. If I hadnât been so pushy...I couldâve at least watched out for her. But, then,â she added wearily, âI couldnât have predicted this: the revolution. How would I have known that she mightâve needed me?âÂ
âEvieâŚâ he murmured, a feeling of sorrow welling up. Her heart was too soft, too kind; she was clearly suffering in guilt for things that mightâve happened, and years after the fact.Â
She glanced over, pulled from wherever her mind had traveled, then said, âI guess thereâs no point in worrying over it now. Canât change the past, canât predict the future...the only thing any of us can really do is try to be better than we were yesterday.âÂ
Excellent point. âThatâs a good philosophy,â he noted. âOne everyone -- human and android alike -- would be wise to adopt.âÂ
She gave a half-smile. âEvelyn Forbes, zen guru, full of pearls of wisdom,â she joked.Â
He chuckled. âWell, you are fifty-seven times older than I am,â he hinted.Â
âOh -- oh, ow,â she complained, patting her chest. âUgh, straight knives, right to the heart! How dare you,â she pouted.Â
He shrugged. âItâs the truth,â he tried. Then, as another thought came to him, he asked, âHad you ever thought about...buying an android?â That was difficult to ask, he found. The very implication that Evelyn might have bought an android went against the grain, given what he knew of her. But he admitted that people change, and the way she was now didnât mean she wasnât different before his arrival.Â
That took her by surprise. She answered, âWell...yeah, the idea crossed my mind. Plenty of times. Case in point, back in â35, for a while L.A. was obsessed with personal trainer androids, and I train on weekends, Tuesdays and Thursdays. It was a sensible idea,â she explained.Â
âBut you decided against it,â he concluded.Â
She shrugged. âI didnât really need it. Besides which, my routine is a source of pride for me. If I got help, started depending on an android to keep track of my progress -- well, there goes the whole point.âÂ
âYou have a lot of pride,â he commented.Â
âNoticed that, did you?âÂ
âDay one,â he hinted.Â
She laughed. âWell, itâs not like I was keeping it secret.âÂ
âOut of curiosity,â he said then, âwhat was it about androids that caused you so much irritation? Most humans seemed perfectly fine with, and even excited by, the prospect of android slaves.âÂ
She paused, thoughtful, then replied, âThe unofficial tagline -- do you know what it was?â He didnât; he gestured to her to continue, and she answered, ââYou donât wanna do it, have an android do it.â At first Iâm sure it seemed like a great idea. Hate doing dishes? Have an android do it. Hate washing clothes? Have an android do it. It went on. Hate cooking? Hate cleaning? I certainly do,â she added to herself. âAnd it spiraled from there.âÂ
God, if it hadnât, he agreed.Â
âBoring jobs turned into dangerous jobs turned into greed and from there into true, infinite laziness.â She shook her head. âHumans very quickly started using androids for absolutely everything. Housework, heavy labor, secretary work, policework,â she hinted, âand finally to sex. âWhat you donât want to doâ turned into âliterally every possible taskâ.âÂ
âNASA had planned on sending androids to Jupiter with no return plan,â Connor noted. âThey were designed to die, alone and stranded in space.âÂ
âWere going to be,â she corrected. âHopefully that plan was shelved.â After a momentâs pause, she added, âDo you know what really got me? Child-rearing androids,â she told him. âHow...fucked up is that, that we consider raising our own kids something we donât want to do?âÂ
She was tense, he could see. This clearly scratched her deep. He tried, âHumans have had nannies for millennia. Is it really so strange, having someone else raise your children?âÂ
âNot in that context, I guess,â she allowed, âbut thereâs still a key difference, Connor: choice. Any human can hire a nanny, pay them for their work -- instead they chose to buy an android and leave it at that.âÂ
âI donât expect as many people had that choice available to them as you think,â he argued. âIf your choices are to buy an android for $900 or pay a human for the foreseeable future at a fixed rate, and youâre already struggling to hold a job, what choice is there?âÂ
Shaking her head, she shot back, âYouâre assuming anyone struggling to keep a job will just have $900 on hand at any point, and they donât. The poor couldnât afford to buy androids -- only the rich. And chances are, they have the time they need to raise their kids, they just find it unpalatable.âÂ
âMaybe,â he allowed, âor maybe the poor had greater need, so they found a way to afford the costs.âÂ
She inclined her head. âCut corners, clipped coupons -- I can see that. But choice goes both ways. Humans can choose to be nannies, to raise children, because they enjoy it. We never gave androids the chance to enjoy anything -- just forced them into the roles we wanted.â
He considered that for a moment, then offered, âI suppose, on the scale of undesirable tasks, child-rearing is easily one of the best. I imagine if you gave every deviant the option to go back to their former lives, the ones most likely to do so would be nannies. Thereâs an inherent joy to it.â
That seemed to give her pause, and at length, she nodded. âI can see that. Raising children can be incredibly rewarding and even euphoric, depending on the person. Whoâs to say androids wouldnât enjoy it, too? For that matter, whoâs to say how many androids had been perfectly happy with their lives before the revolution and would go back if given the chance?â
He couldnât speak for all androids, but heâd quite enjoyed being a detective -- hence why heâd returned to this profession.
âBut youâre still missing the biggest -- and arguably the worst -- android luxury there was,â she went on.
That had him curious. âWhich was?âÂ
Catching his gaze, she answered, âThe YK500. Literally children you can program to behave exactly how you want them to. No worrying over hunger or struggling to get them into bed at night. All the love, none of the nasty surprises -- like waking up to hear your kid screaming in pain and finding they fell out of bed and broke their arm, or sudden illnesses cause they ate something they shouldnât have, or puberty as a whole. No temper tantrums,â she hinted. âAll the things that make raising kids actually worth it -- poof, gone.âÂ
He couldnât argue that one -- both because he had no idea what raising children entailed or what its rewards were, and because sheâd made her point very concisely.Â
âThatâs when I knew the decline of humanity was imminent,â she said. âIt was always inevitable, but now itâs right on the horizon. Weâve reached the point where it was considered okay to have robots raising our kids while we raised robotic kids instead. Taking the easier path in every sense of the term.âÂ
Something heavy and uncomfortable hit him then, right in the chest. Empathy, he wondered? Was he picking up on Evelynâs obvious turmoil -- or was this his own?Â
âThereâs no point, you know,â she told him. âNo point to android kids except the phrase âI wantâ. Greed coupled with apathy -- I want kids, but I donât want real kids with flaws and unpredictability. I want kids I can tell how to behave and theyâll do it. Just sheer obedience. Slave children,â she said, voice hard.Â
And he didnât know how to respond to that. She was right -- at least about there being no point to android children. If the purpose behind androids was usefulness, then the YK500 had none. It certainly lent credence to the theory that there was more to android creation and marketing than what CyberLife claimed.
Most androids had a hypothesis about the truth by now. Among them: androids were meant to replace humanity; androids were meant to be immortal bodies for rich humans, they just needed to be good enough first; androids were meant to lead humans to a utopia of unrivaled bliss; androids were meant to supplant and destroy humans...the list went on.
Then again, maybe it really was all about money. Thatâs what Amanda had told him: that CyberLifeâs goal was just to keep selling androids and making money. But then what? What happens after, when androids outnumber humans? What was the end goal? There was no way CyberLife didnât have a plan for what comes next -- the question was what that plan was.
They were both quiet for a time, lost in their own thoughts, before Evelyn concluded, âAnyway, thatâs why androids make me so uncomfortable. Not for what they are -- for what you are,â she told him, âbut for what it represents for humans. The end,â she said, melancholy.Â
The end...of humanity? Thatâs what androids equated for her?Â
âEvie,â he murmured, hesitant. The decline of humanity is imminent, sheâd said -- and this is what she meant? Not androids destroying humans, but humans allowing their own destruction through androids��� existence?Â
The future is going to go one of two ways, sheâd said when they met. Either androids are going to grab us by the ears and pull us out of this hole, or theyâre going to grab shovels and bury us.Â
âWhat is it you expect to happen?â he asked, cautious. Her signs of depression were stronger than ever before, and he knew how easily it could tip into suicidal thoughts. He needed to proceed carefully, get a feel for her mental state, and hopefully get her on steadier ground.Â
She shook her head. âI honestly couldnât guess. Aside from the total decline of humanity,â she added, âbut I expect thatâll occur regardless of android intervention rather than because of it. But for all I know thatâll take millennia yet.âÂ
Still hesitant, he ventured, âYou know most androids donât want a war, right? Markus, especially -- after everything thatâs happened, he truly believes that humans are good, as a whole. The bad ones just stand out more.âÂ
âNegative affinity,â she mused. âFunny -- itâs one of humanityâs worst traits, and somehow we managed to give it to you, too.âÂ
Negative affinity, he repeated: the condition of seeing bad things as worse than they are, largely because bad things are more rare than good ones and, thus, are less expected. Getting into a car accident or falling ill were noted because it happened comparatively rarely to successfully driving to your destination or having another perfectly healthy day.Â
âOr we developed it on our own,â he pointed out. âItâs useful for reminding ourselves how fragile the good days are -- and how much we should appreciate them.âÂ
She glanced at him sideways. âLook whoâs the zen guru now,â she teased.Â
He smiled.
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Everything and everyone sucks
CW: depression, the fash, leftist despair, enbyphobia
Yeah, Iâm still here, even though itâs been over a year since I posted anything. The reason for that is that I am severely depressed, like really bad, and Iâm losing hope that there will ever be a time when I wonât be depressed. Itâs not easy to be hopeful when itâs been 10+ years and youâre just not snapping out of it despite doing both therapy and meds. Itâs just an extremely dark place to be in.
I have several theories as to why my depression appears to be incurable, and the truth is probably a mix of all of them and perhaps something else that I havenât thought of yet. I believe part of it is genetic, as my parents (my mom in particular) have both suffered from decades of depression as well, so thanks for those shit genes you dickheads. They also never sought help for their issues and never taught me how to deal with negative emotions appropriately, so nurture is likely a big part of why I canât cope as well. A third issue is that my temperament is just fucking crap, Iâm sensitive like a mushy potato, everything scares me and I have an extremely short fuse. A fourth is that I am utterly confused and dysphoric about my gender and my sexuality, I just have no fucking idea who I am or what I want in that regard and itâs just a big olâ mess. And then thereâs the fifth thing, which is the one I would like to discuss today: partially, Iâm depressed because so much about the world just genuinely sucks.
Looking at the world right now is fucking heartbreaking for a bleeding heart leftie like myself. Capitalism (and no, I donât mean crony capitalism or late stage capitalism, I mean the entire economic system and Iâll fight you to the death on that) has brought us to a point where money always matters more than people, large corporations can do whatever they want and parts of the world are literally on fire, and instead of tackling these issues we have fascists plopping up everywhere and making everything so much worse by blaming all our white people problems on the brown people from countries that we ourselves fucked up for (what else) monetary gain. Itâs just messed up beyond belief. Iâm not even going to get into Trump, letâs just say that if I was religious or spiritual in any sense I would take him as a sign that the world is ending. He, and the fact that he wonât be impeached because republicans have no morals and no spines, is a perfect symbol for how utterly weâve failed as a species. I may not live in the US, but damn you fuckheads are dragging us all to hell in a hand basket. (Note: by âyou fuckheadsâ, Iâm not referring to sensible Americans, just Trumpers, Republicans and those who think that Joe Biden is an acceptable presidential candidate. You need Sanders. The others are trash.)
Then again, the left fucking sucks too. NOT AS BAD AS THE RIGHT, so donât get any ideas about my political allegiances here, but hot damn we suck. The world is burning around us, and weâre way too focused on our own in-fighting to get anything meaningful done. And Iâm not going to be cute about it, of course Iâm talking about Contrapoints since thatâs what weâve currently chosen to focus on instead of, idk, the bush fires that are burning up half of Australia or the impending Iran war or the fact that people still think Joe Biden is an acceptable presidential candidate. And now Iâm doing it too, because I suck as well, but also because I think it highlights a bigger issue that we definitely have on the left. Call it cancel culture or wokescolding or purity testing or gatekeeping or whatever you feel like, Iâm not really here to argue semantics. I just find that we suffer from a lack of nuance and, what is worse, a lack of basic human empathy in certain situations, and itâs extremely off putting to me.
So, Contrapoints did a bad. She had Buck Angel in a video and tweeted some shit about enbies that wasnât great (full disclosure though, to my personal sensibilities the tweets werenât all that offensive, but your mileage may vary and Iâm not here to police what youâre allowed to be offended by). As someone whose gender is, as I stated above, a mess, and is certainly somewhere on the enby spectrum, I think being hurt by this behaviour is understandable and acceptable, as is criticizing her for it. But that ainât what happened is it. What happened was straight up harassment no matter how you slice it. A short association with a problematic person and a couple of problematic tweets are just not grounds for driving someone back into alcoholism and hounding their friends to denounce them entirely, that shit is ridiculous and anyone who participated in that should be ashamed of themselves. If you donât want to support her anymore because of her actions, thatâs fine. I, for example, donât support Vaush because to me, heâs just another white guy whoâs way too enamored with himself to recognize his privileges and heâs way too cool with slurs and other questionable shit like telling people to kill themselves. So I donât like him and I avoid him. I suggest you do the same with Natalie if you canât phrase your criticism like a grownup. Call that tone policing if you want, I think there is a difference to be made between tone policing and not condoning outright harassment. And above all, the world is burning. I wish we could focus more on that than the fact that Contrapoints did a dumb.
See, the right donât have this issue. Partially, this is to be expected since the right doesnât really give a ratâs ass about human rights anyway, so why would they take offense with one of their own saying some crap. The left is better at holding our own accountable, which is not a bad thing UNLESS we do it like this. Weâre no match for the right if we keep eating each other. Now obviously your mileage may vary on what you find acceptable, but could we at least agree that harassment is bad and save our punches for the Nazis? No? Ok. Weâre doomed anyway, so why even bother anymore. Weâve already lost.
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That post you made was a mess, just fyi. 1) I went through the thread you linked, and I found the authors reasonable and respectable. The playwriter's worked with people with disabilities for 10 years, and it's clear he cares about the issue. 2) The fact Lawrence is a puppy isn't automatically pejorative. That's how art works. I haven't seen the play, but it's probably a metaphor for the teen's lack of agency or something like that. Also writing something a certain way doesn't mean you -
â- approve of it. Have you even seen the play? 3) Please stop pretending anyone represents the autistic community and that you guys speak with one voice. Itâs seriously dehumanizing to think a large and diverse group of people shares the same views. In that view there is an autistic man who loved the play - I guess his voice doesnât count because he disagrees with you?â
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I love this anon message because it contains pretty much every argument that people are using against the autistic folk protesting this play.Â
Like, Iâve been watching #puppetgate unfold since day one, read the reviews, read the responses from @allinarowplay. You think I havenât heard these points before?
Iâve read them so many times now in tweets and reviews that your message just looks like one of those ransom notes that are made from cut and pasted words out of the newspaper.
But since Tumblr is new to #puppetgate, SURE, letâs address them!Â
First of all, my #puppetgate summary was a truthful, if flippant, tl;dr of the past two weeksâ worth of Twitter drama.Â
I apologize if my brief humorous take on a complex and nuanced debate didnât meet the standards of a random stranger on the internet.Â
Letâs discuss it in more serious detail.
1) You can care about an issue and still handle it really poorly. No one doubts this playwrightâs intentions. But, as you say, he was a CARER for 10 years. That doesnât mean he understands how it feels to be autistic and in fact, ableism is built right into ABA and other therapies used by carers.Â
So yeah, he cares. And he still made an ableist play.
Also, the thread you mention was BELOW the video I linked to wherein the puppet designer says, and I quote:
âLaurence is non-verbal, and the power that puppets have is that they explore movement and with a turn of their head or a small movement they give life and character that you wouldnât achieve with a human actor.â
Which is why I snidely summarized their position asÂ
â This puppet is going to be SO MUCH more like an autistic child than a human could ever be!â
https://twitter.com/allinarowplay/status/1092410318960148481ďťż
Also, there is a brief shot of their script in that video at 2:19 and if you pause it and look at it you can see that the parents are joking about how their kid is like a puppy.
âShits wherever he wantsâ is clearly visible.
This is the stuff the positive reviews consider funny, honest, and brave.
According to reviews, the child is present in the background throughout most of the play. Which means they talk like this IN FRONT OF HIM and this is never brought up as an issue/problem.Â
In fact, non-autistic reviewers donât even seem bothered by it, probably because they share the common misperception that non-verbal high needs autistic people donât understand what is going on around them. SoâŚ. yeah. I donât care how well meaning the playwright was.Â
The playwright consulted the National Autistic Society and they told him they couldnât support the play âdue to its portrayal of autism, particularly the use of a puppet to depict the autistic character alone.â
But he didnât change his mind about the puppet.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/critics-say-new-play-that-uses-a-puppet-to-portray-an-autistic-boy-dehumanises-those-with-the-condition/ar-BBTk5kC
So again - sure, maybe he cares. But he also wasnât willing to change his vision despite the warnings of the Autism organization that he was hoping would endorse his play.Â
2) Of course a puppet isnât inherently pejorative. For one thing, the autistic community is very positive about Julia, the autistic muppet on Sesame Street.
The outrage involves a lot more nuance than that. First of all, itâs the choice to make the puppet grey and ugly. This was obviously an artistic decision. The first version of the puppet has black hair too and no eyes, just dark sockets like a skull.Â
Not exactly Julia. Â
And even with that, I was on the fence and willing to wait for the reviews to come out before I made a judgement.Â
Like you, I thought perhaps it would be made clear in the play that his puppet-ness and greyness represented lack of agency. And maybe the designer was thinking that way.Â
But if that is the case, it does not come across.Â
In fact, the reviewers who enjoyed the play repeatedly dismiss the controversy by saying that the play âisnât really about Laurence.âÂ
https://www.timeout.com/london/theatre/all-in-a-row-review
âThe production is also about the situation, rather than about Laurence himself.â
https://www.thereviewshub.com/all-in-a-row-southwark-playhouse-london/
âsadly the grey-faced puppet adds nothing to the production that a living actor â adult or child â could not have provided.â
Iâve read a LOT of reviews of this play by now.Â
Reviews from mothers of autistic children who feel a kinship with the stressed, unhappy, dysfunctional parents.Â
Reviews from people without a connection to autism who feel like they learned something.Â
Reviews from autistic people and disabled allies who cringe at the ableism.Â
None of them - NONE of them - allude to any kind of symbolism or thematic point running through the play which justifies or explains the puppet or its weird appearance.
And the reasons for the puppet given by the playwright, director, and playhouse make very little sense.Â
In that promotional video I linked to they say that the puppet can communicate better than an actor could. I disagree. So does a non-verbal autistic mime who commented in the thread below.Â
They also say that it allows them to avoid being offensive or stereotypical, which makes little sense because they still had a grown man grunting and flapping on stage, just with a puppet sprouting from his waist.Â
They repeatedly argued that they couldnât use an autistic child, as if acting wasnât even a thing. They repeatedly argued that a human actor couldnât do the sounds and movements, even though a human puppeteer was doing just that.
My favourite one was the review (linked above) that argued that âLaurence isnât a character a person could play (neurotypical or not) as his autism is so particular and at times violent.â
...Has this guy never seen Titus Andronicus?Â
A person can play ANYTHING.
On Broadway I have seen human actors play cats, lions, baboons, and witches.Â
On multiple occasions a fine-boned actress has been used to play Peter Pan. Iâm pretty sure you could cast a small actor to play a pre-teen boy. Then the play wouldnât have attracted so much negative attention.
As for âwriting something a certain way doesnât mean you approve of it.â
True.Â
My fans can tell you that my main character spouts a fair amount of ableism. Theyâll also tell you that this flaw is addressed openly and resolved as part of her character arc.Â
Theyâll ALSO also tell you that the âvillainsâ of my story embrace ableist ideals. So yes, I wrote ableist stuff. But you can tell by the waythese things are framed how the writer wants you to feel about them.
No, I havenât seen the play because I donât live in the same country as it and it would take 12 hours to fly there. But I read what people write about it and I draw my own conclusions.
And the fact that ableist jokes are punchlines does not endear me to the playwright or the puppet.Â
You say you havenât read the play, and from the sounds of it you havenât read many reviews either.Â
If you think itâs wrong for me to criticize it after watching all of this unfold over days and days, and reading a dozen reviews by people who loved it and people who hated it, then how is it right for you to defend it?
3) Aw, look at that straw man lying on its side! You did a good job there.
Nowhere in my puppetgate summary do I claim that 100% of autistic people feel the same way.
I was summarizing what has been going down on Twitter over the past two weeks. I know because I was there. Donât believe me? Actually spendsome time on the puppetgate hashtag and the actuallyautistic hashtag and see what people are saying.
And of course less than 100% of #actuallyautistic people feel the same, but I want to point out that at the time of this writing, my #puppetgate summary post has nearly 11K notes, all of them expressing disgust at the idea of this play.
Autistic people are disgusted. Autism allies are disgusted. Even people with no connection to autism can often see why this is effed up.
Yours was the only message I have received trying to defend the idea of a play featuring a messed up family arguing, discussing bukkake, calling their child a âpuppyâ using language which results in the play being rated as 16 plus... all in front of their eleven year oldâŚ
But what really bothers me is that somehow people come out of there identifying with the parents and thinking that it is âbraveâ and âhonest.âÂ
They blame autism for what it has done to this family.
THE DAD SHAT ON HIS WIFEâS PILLOW AND BLAMED IT ON HIS OWN SON.
And the really sad thing is that your lonely messages in my inbox didnât contain a single unique thought. Iâve been seeing those tired excuses and straw man arguments all over twitter for weeks.
They donât stand up.
Iâve performed in theatre. I was willing to withhold judgement until more details about the play emerged.Â
I was hoping they would say something brilliant and profound about what life is like for an eleven year old child with autism who is being sent away because his messed up family canât stand it any more.
But facts are facts⌠they didnât.
All they are doing is telling audience after audience that it is funny to insult your autistic child in his very presence and that autism wrecks marriages.
You can understand why a LOT of autistic people would be a bit sensitive about that kind of message.
It doesnât have to be everyone.Â
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Life of a School Shooting Survivor
Just some ramblings about a minor detail that I feel stuck on. (For context: I was there at school that day and I was traumatized but I did not witness the event itself nor was I particularly close of any of the casualty victims. Because of this I sometimes have a hard time accepting that my trauma is valid, and I certainly donât feel like Iâm a good candidate to be a speaker on the topic. However, I do feel the need to be heard at some level, so I would appreciate people reading.)Â
[Warnings for discussion of school shootings, negativity, and Jerks in the YouTube comment section]
I have a couple of drafts for stuff like this that I wanted to post on the 1-year, but it ended up being a really hard week so that didnât happen. But I had a little bit of a tough time today and Iâm feeling like talking about it again. Iâm doing so much better now. I think the one year was super hard but even a week afterward, I felt better. I felt less heavy and I could talk about it the most openly that I ever have outside of therapy, which was amazing. I was also So Super Busy which kept me distracted which is nice but itâs also probably part of the reason itâs taken me so long to reach this point. Not that thereâs a time table for how to get over trauma, but I notice that so many of my schoolmates, even people who were significantly more involved than I was, are doing better. Maybe part of it is that Iâm a very sensitive person. Maybe it was just that it was one of my nightmares literally come to life for me to experience in 3D Surround Sound. Whatever it was, itâs taken me quite some time to get over it.Â
Teachers are back to showing violent movies in class with just some cursory warnings. You talk to Freshman who donât really know what happened. The world around me is moved on, and in many ways, I have as well.Â
But thereâs one detail, one tiny super unimportant STUPID detail, that bothers me so much. It was kind of stupid of me sure, but I was freshly traumatized and wanting to talk about it to an audience who hadnât heard the story before, so Iâm not going to blame myself. In fact, while perhaps ill-advised, it was perfectly innocent and in my eyes maybe a good thing.Â
Iâm not sure who remembers, but after Parkland, Li-Manuel Miranda and Ben Platt made a medley of You Will Be Found and Story of Tonight called Found/Tonight. They wrote it FOR the school shooting survivors. They wrote it FOR March For Our Lives. I listened to it for several hours at a time in the days following the shooting. And like two or three days after, I decided I could leave my story in the comments of the video. (Iâm sure you all can see where this is going.)Â
I donât remember the entire comment, and I really donât want to go back and find it, but essentially it was the first time I told the story. It wasnât the actual event itself, just the context and the aftermath. And how the car ride home from the evacuation site was silent. But the first time I listened to music after it happened, I was listening to the radio and they put Found/Tonight on and talked about how it was for the school shooting survivors. And I was feeling a lot of things then, but I just remember in that moment, listening to the voices of two celebrities I was enthralled with at the time, singing this song that was written for kids like me, and I just felt....so much less alone. Other people had gone through this (my first reaction just now was to type âother people had gone through worse,â but I need to stop invalidating my own trauma which has been a huge obstacle for my recovery and honestly I think this event Iâm talking about was a lot of the source of that) and ended up okay. It was like breathing out for just a second. It was the first time I finally had a moment of clarity to be like âOkay. Things arenât okay now, but look: they will get better.â And OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT MOMENT FOR ME.Â
I didnât see any other survivors in the comments of the official video, but this song was FOR US so I thought, âHey maybe if I share my story, other people might share theirs.â And so I wrote my comment, and went to sleep (I was doing a lot of sleeping these days.)
I wake up to a reply!! (How exciting!! I had -100 internet presence and had literally never commented on a YouTube video before this...) And I DO remember the reply. I donât even have to go find it, itâs pretty ingrained in my mind. It said âSorry sweetie, but this song canât played on the radio yet. Stop trying to make your life sound cinematic.â Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, itâs stupid. Itâs short, itâs small, itâs insignificant, but I saw RED. I wrote a reply and it was stupid and angry and flustered and very very upset and Iâm kind of embarrassed by it, but I want to be kinder to myself and honestly I made some okay points had I been a little more articulate with them never mind that they fell on the uncaring ears of youtube commenters. My main points were like: 1. Okay first of all, even if this WAS a fake story (itâs not) why???? Did you decide it was your job to âcall it outâ???? 2. On the âoff chanceâ it WASNâT a fake story (it wasnât) how could you just thoughtlessly weigh the consequence of invalidating a traumatized kid to be less than the rush of satisfaction for âcalling outâ a âfake storyâ?? 3. Itâs NOT a fake story, hereâs the FACTS 4. Itâs probably too much to hope that you feel a modicum of remorse, but hereâs to hoping you have a scrap of human decency.  So posted than aaaand went, you guessed it, back to sleep. Wake up to ANOTHER reply and THIS ONE...Hoooodee hoo this one is.......reading this one felt like the Edgar Allen Poe meme. I donât remember what this one said because I soon as I realized it WAS too much to hope that they had a scrap of human decency, I just kind of shut down a little bit again. Essentially they SUMMARIZED THE SHOOTING THAT HAPPENED AT MY SCHOOL TO ME and said âOnly like one person died, and then a cop shot the kid and it stopped. Why are you being whiny about it?â Like first of all...thatâs not even what happened. Second of all..................yeah you read that right, this person said âOnlyâ one person died. (Which is ALSO not true).Â
I donât know why that person was watching a video intended for school shooting survivors and the profits from which went to MFOL, an anti-gun protest.....I donât know why they felt the need to say what they said......Maybe they were having a Bad Life and needed to take it out on someone...maybe they were feeling defensive because they were wrong........whatever it was. I recognize fully that the comments are not a big deal and that my trauma and feelings are valid... I was just thinking about it so much today and I wanted to get it out.Â
Thank you for tuning in to this weeks issue of Talking About My Trauma to the void of the internet (and the several internet friends who will see this and care <3 If youâre reading this, hi I love you and thank you for reading.)
P.S. The sad part is I havenât really worked myself back up to listening to the song.Â
P.P.S. So many people in the comments were like âOMG THIS IS BEAUTIFUL, PLAY THIS AT MY FUNERAL!!!â and considering it was written for kids whoâve been to more than their fair share of funerals, I thought that was in very poor taste. Like sure I get the edgy âHaha planning my funeral!â Jokes, but some discretion would be nice, yeah?
#School shooting survivor#tw: school shooting#I would appreciate if you took the time to read#You may reblog if you would like#I'm not sure why would want to#But you're fully allowed#Second disclaimer: if you would like to comment please don't do it directly on this post
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ive been thinking nonstop about the possibility of me having adhd since my sister and her boyfriend brought it up to me last week (iâm FINALLY seeing my therapist today so we can talk about it) and iâve been doing a lot of research and i found the howtoadhd channel on youtube
and literally the number of times in the past 2 hours alone that iâve teared up or started legitimately crying because of how much i relate to things that these videos are saying is ridiculous, like some of them are word-for-word things iâve said that i had NO inkling of an idea could be related to adhd
like this one video of this guy who was diagnosed at 43 and said that prior to his diagnosis he had just accepted that he would feel dissatisfied for his whole life, that he would never feel content, iâve been saying that for YEARS and just was resigned to it and chalked it up solely to my depression
and just like. having been able to do well in school as a kid but constantly being told that iâm ânot living up to [my] potentialâ and now that iâm in my early 20s and my intelligence canât compensate for like....not being able to regulate my emotions and not being able to organize my life and not being able to motivate myself to do things, which is supposedly why a number of people get diagnosed around this time, because metrics for success are different in adulthood (you canât just take a test and rely on being smart to compensate for all the other problems), and i was always just. thinking that i fucked up and wasted my life through laziness or whatever the case may be
iâve always considered myself to be âcraftyâ and âresourcefulâ in the sense that i may not go about doing things in the typical way but i can almost always find a way to accomplish what i need accomplished, even if itâs unconventional -- apparently thatâs common with adhd too! like iâll say âoh i couldnât figure out how to do [x] so i did [y and z]â and someone will be like âwhy didnât you just do [thing everyone else does]â and usually i either couldnât figure out how, or it didnât occur to me, and my way was weird and unconventional, but it worked for me!
and then of course iâm just recognizing all these signs that have always been there that i either didnât notice or attributed to other things -- iâve been trying to observe the way my attention functions this week and literally i space out and miss things SO much more often than i ever realized, like i miss so much information because iâve drifted off. or i get really stuck on things in conversations and even after everyone else has moved on i have this urge to bring it back so i can say that last thing iâve been rehearsing over and over for the past 5 minutes so i didnât forget it, and now itâs in my head and everyone is talking about something else and itâs SO inconsequential but i have to forcibly drag myself away from whatever the thing is (yesterday my sister and her friend and i were talking about early 2000â˛s fashion and i wanted to make a comment about wearing ugly scarves as belts and they saw a dog and moved on to talking about cute things our dogs have done and i just couldnât stop thinking about the scarves as belts thing for like 10 minutes until i just had to sigh and be like...well i canât bring that up again now)
when i was younger i would rush through tests so i could go back to whatever book i was reading and i just thought it was a silly quirk like âoh i just like to read lolâ but i realized i still do similar things -- if iâm reading a book or watching a show or working on something, THAT is what iâm doing. anything else, whether itâs work or sleep or eating or hanging out with a friend or fulfilling any sort of responsibility? thatâs a break from the thing iâm doing. if iâm reading a book, even if itâs the 3rd time iâm rereading harry potter for the year, for example, then in my head, iâm reading harry potter. i have to go to work all day but then i can read harry potter. all iâm doing is thinking about reading harry potter. i rush through my responsibilities so i can go BACK to reading harry potter, because thatâs what iâm doing and anything else is just taking a break from reading harry potter. (you see how this can negatively affect the accomplishment/fulfillment of important tasks and responsibilities)
and my sister has pointed out things that i didnât really notice, like she said itâs really difficult to hold a conversation with me when iâm excited about something because i canât calm down enough to let the other person talk. and iâve always known that i tend to finish peoplesâ sentences for them during conversations, which i always thought was a way of showing that iâm listening! but ive realized itâs actually that, if i already know what youâre going to say, and youâre saying it too slowly, i get impatient and i need to blurt out the rest for you so we can move on and i can say my next thing before i forget it
and like obviously all people experience some symptoms some of the time, daydreaming isnât exclusive to adhd, neither is walking into a room and forgetting what youâre doing there. but this week as iâve been paying attention, i notice i do it CONSTANTLY. the other night i opened up my phone before bed because i remembered i hadnât set my alarm, so i picked it up from where i place it for the night (i was about to go to sleep). 15 minutes later i put my phone back down and decided to turn in for the night again, and then realized i still had never turned the alarm on because i got distracted and did other stuff. and things like that happen with almost comical regularity, now that i know to look for it.
iâve known i have executive dysfunction issues for a long time so i wonât go into those, but like weâve known i have problems with directions and organization and spatial processing and knowing how to complete tasks for a long time
the rejection-sensitive dysphoria is something i didnât really realize was part of adhd, but it makes SO much sense. i think itâs part of why i thought i had bpd for a while, because a lot of the symptoms were similar and i knew i was dealing with something more than just depression and anxiety but didnât know what, and a lot of the symptoms i experienced also seemed to fit the bpd diagnosis even if my actual behavior and personality didnât seem to
there are so many more things iâve noticed this week and thought about differently but i literally canât remember what they are lmao i think iâm gonna try to write stuff down so i donât forget to tell my therapist today but like.Â
so many of these things i didnât realize had anything to do with adhd, like emotional dysregulation, iâve always known i have horrible mood swings and trouble regulating my emotions, iâve always noticed a lot of these different symptoms but it never occurred to me that they could all be part of the same thing??
like i havenât been tested or diagnosed yet and iâm worried iâm getting carried away but the only time iâve ever felt this sort of relief was a few months ago when realizing my dad is a narcissist. like the feeling of âoh my god, i knew this was something i experienced but i didnât think i could attribute it to anythingâ and âoh my god, this is word for word something i say all the time, i didnât realize it was part of a patternâ
and it genuinely made me cry! hearing people talk about things that describe me that i never would have guessed might have to do with adhd, finding something that seems to encompass a very broad range of symptoms that i previously thought were unrelated or results of a myriad of things (and obviously they all play off of one another but thatâs a whole separate issue)
but it would explain so much of my behavior and challenges -- why i struggle with finishing up a task or project once the big, complicated part is done; why i get super obsessed with something and then once it wears off i never mention or think about it again; why iâve always needed my momâs help to clean my closet or pack for a trip, even though i felt like i was way too old to need help with that; why people constantly are like âi know you heard me say this because you said âokââ about things i genuinely have no recollection of
but i just canât stop thinking about that guy talking about how he was just resigned to thinking he would never been satisfied or content with his life because that is something i have been feeling and saying FOREVER, for years ive just been like âeverything is so hard, the idea of spending the rest of my life struggling to get up in the morning and going to work every day, dealing with all my responsibilities, i feel like iâm exhausted and underwater just thinking about it, iâm never going to feel fulfilled or satisfied, itâs always just going to be slogging through my responsibilities and itâs never going to endâ and apparently thatâs....a normal thing, and i just thought it was depression and maybe part of it is, but maybe the reason i struggle so much with those every day things is because my brain is wired differently?
and maybe iâve fucked up because at this point i think iâll be really disappointed if i donât get the diagnosis because iâm not really sure what else could explain these issues, it certainly makes sense and i feel like it fits and i feel relieved just thinking about having that answer, and it certainly negatively impacts almost every aspect (if not every aspect) of my life. so like if i donât get diagnosed idk what iâm gonna do and i probably fucked up by spending the last week obsessing over it lol
but like....the relief i feel every time i read or hear or see someone with adhd say âi experience [x]â and iâm like holy shit??? me too???? and it just. feels like maybe thereâs an explanation for all this horrible dissatisfaction and unhappiness i thought i was going to be stuck with for the rest of my life, and there are other people who experience these things and there are things that can be done, medication and therapy and strategies and...my whole life doesnât NEED to feel like a challenge, maybe itâs not an indisputable fact that iâm just going to have to live with forever.
if you read this far and you have adhd (especially if you were diagnosed after childhood) i would love to hear your thoughts on this, obviously i didnât list every single symptom and experience and i know there are more but these are all i could think of at the moment, if i seem like iâm way off base obviously please let me know
#me.txt#adhd#long post //#honestly if you read this whole thing....thank you#also don't rb obviously#adhd tag
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