#contrapoints

[mywitchcultblr]

This is what happen when people take the 'your brain doesn't mature till 25' pop-sci too literally and just ran with it, also transphobia

[maaarine]

"In her book "Girls Who Like Boys Who Like Boys", Lucy Neville argues that male-male erotica, Boys Love, slashfic, yaoi are very popular among women in part because they make more space for versatility and fluidity than heterosexual conventions will allow.

If women were submissive by nature, why would they sexually identify with men to this extent?"

Source: Twilight | ContraPoints

[nataliewynn]

Join me on the path to Twilightenment

[drdemonprince]

"noncon fantasies are a way to imagine the fulfillment of the desire for sex, while disavowing that very desire"

yeah sure, great theory, for many it is! but what about those of us for whom it is not the sex we want at all, but the violation itself? i dont have hypnosis sex fantasies for the sex, but for the hypnosis! i dont have forced sex fantasies for the sex, but for the forcing! many of my fantasies do not involve sex at all, but do involve some kind of deep violation.

the claim that people only fantasize about rape to cope with the shame of wanting sex has always felt so alienating to me. im not ashamed of wanting sex. i dont especially want sex. what i want specifically is something i do not want. i want the pressure, the alarm, the confusion, the dissociation. i want that stuff actually, not in a thinly veiled play-acting way as a precursor to sex. if it doesnt actually feel like a violation, i dont much like the sex.

it's just so frustrating to me when people act like nobody genuinely just has dark desires, that its all just a thin ruse to cover up an interest in vanilla sexual activities. some people do that sure. but us actual fetishists do exist.

[radfemsiren]

I think one of the biggest reasons people think “terfs” are oppressive bigots despite lack of any violent hate crimes is because people genuinely believe women insulting men’s appearances and hurting their feelings is violence.

Take being trans out of the occasion, it’s a common belief that women making fun of male tears or tiny dicks is on the same level as men literally killing and raping women: misandry vs misogyny.

I’ll never forget in Contrapoint’s JK Rowling “takedown” video, all of the “evidence” he had about how evil terfs were was… schoolyard insults. He pulled quotes of different women making fun of male pattern baldness, of stubble poking through foundation. I was like… how is this not identical to Andrew Tate MRAs screaming about how evil women are and how terrible misandry is and just pulling up jokes about male appearances?

Like before you label anyone as a bigot or oppressor, can you do 5 seconds of research and find any evidence of the claim? Women laughing at you is not violence lmao, no matter how much it hurts your feelings

[alinahdee]

Anyways, fuck Contrapoints. :)

[catboybiologist]

I missed contrapoints so much

[antinativefaves]

Jesse Wente (from the documentary Reel Injun) successfully takes down everything wrong with Contrapoints's racist, tonedeaf and dismissive take on John Wayne's influence.

[shamebats]

"One way indirect bigotry works is by camouflaging political struggles as intellectual debates. When Joanne says "sex is real", she sounds like she's staking out a position in "the trans debate". Which is then presented as an intellectual conflict about the metaphysics of gender, instead of what it is really is, which is a political conflict about the social equality of transgender people.

And the effectiveness of that strategy is actually a reason I'm not a huge fan of the slogan, "trans women are women". And this is just my opinion, I don't speak for any other trans people but there's a couple things I don't like about it. One, is trans men and non-binary people matter just as much as trans women. But you don't as often hear, "trans men are men" or “non-binary people are... valid?” Doesn't really work does it?

The other problem with "trans women are women", is it tends to invite the response "well what does it even mean to be a woman? Define womanhood!" And now you're immediately getting baited into some bullshit semantic debate about "what is a real woman?"

It doesn't really matter, does it? This is metaphysics. And life is too short for metaphysics. You know I've been down this road too many times already, and I always end up having these dead end conversations about gender performativity; or worse, conversations about what it means to "feel like a woman". Well the truth is I don't really feel like a woman. I don't think anyone feels like a woman honestly, except a certain subgenre of gay men and possibly Shania Twain.

[...]

So I know it sounds kind of outdated, very 1970’s, but I personally like the slogan, "trans liberation now!" ⚧ ✊ It's short, it's sweet, and instead of prompting "define womanhood!" it prompts people to ask "what do you mean liberation? Liberation from what?" And then you can say, “well I'll tell you!” And now you're talking about politics instead of talking about semantics. Isn't that better?

I feel like trans culture is just so obsessed with reassuring ourselves that we're “valid”, that we sometimes forget that the end goal of a political movement is not “validity”, it's equality."

- from J.K. Rowling | ContraPoints

[meraarts]

I love you Jenny Nicholson I love you Sarah Z I love you Contrapoints I love you hbomberguy I love you Quinton Reviews I love you Quinn Curio I love you CJ the X

[dappersappho]

In the Contrapoints video “Cringe”, she talks about Hbomberguy’s old videos about Davis Aurini and his efforts at looking cool, tough, masculine, etc. Brewis would basically zoom in on just how much a buffoon Aurini has been this whole time while putting on this ultra-masculine facade. Natalie goes on to say she has asked former sexist Dudebros what started their deconstruction of the man-o-sphere and a majority of them said it was Brewis’s videos. Basically, Aurini was Andrew Tate before Andrew Tate. When Brewis pointed out just how cringe Aurini’s antics were, a lot of men who saw themselves in Aurini suddenly wanted to distance themselves from him and his ideals.

What I’m trying to say is keep calling the Republicans weird. It might actually work.

[notaplaceofhonour]

something I realized looking at the stats for “breadtube” creators like Hbomberguy, PhilosophyTube, ContraPoints, etc. is, as much as we may tend to think of them as all having comparable platforms, it really isn’t even close.

yes, many of the core group have a similar number of subscribers (1-2M) and many of them are friends or have collaborated in the past, but in terms of actual viewership, none of the others even come close to having the same reach as Hbomberguy.

at time of writing, his last video got 24M views. 6 of his last 8 videos got ~10M or more. The average viewership for his essays is ~5.6 million, a number that ContraPoints has cracked a total of four times, Lindsay Ellis and Shaun once each, and PhilosophyTube never.

there isn’t a huge point to this other than that it kinda reframes the scale of their platforms, for me at least. none of them have a platform even remotely comparable in size to hbomberguy.

[maaarine]

"I wish that people who are inclined to crusade against "dangerous books" or "abusive ships" would try to think about fantasy in a way that's less literal and more psychological.

Like do furries and omegaverse fic writers "normalize bestiality"?

No, the fantasy of human animality is not about literal animals, it's about unleashing what is symbolically "animalistic" in us, the drives and urges that human taboos and decency forbid.

Are people who are into "Daddy doms" or diapers or whatever "literally normalizing pediatrics?"

Well no, it's not usually about that at all. Ageplay is usually about fantasy regression to the social position of someone who has no responsibilities and needs to be taken care of.

The fantasy, or the roleplay scenario, gives you permission to be taken care of.

Edward Cullen's notorious "I like to watch you sleep" feels creepy to a lot of people. And fair enough. "Creepy-ness" is subjective.

But I feel like you can find Edward creepy and still understand that for Stephenie Meyer, "Twilight" is not the expression of a literal desire to be stalked by creatures of the night.

The fantasy is of a protector watching over you. A witness. A guardian angel.

Like when you're a kid and you want your mom to stay in your room with you until you fall asleep. (…)

When I watch "Fifty Shades", I don't feel like I'm watching a seasoned predator. I feel like I'm watching a woman's fantasy. Because I am.

And if people like Gail Dines are too obtuse to notice the difference, that's kind of their problem.

I've been holding this in for 10 years, and I'm gonna say it.

I am begging these people to learn to think psychologically instead of literally, so that they're not constantly baffled and traumatized upon encountering literally the most common type of sexual fantasy that people have."

Source: Twilight | ContraPoints

[butchnavi]

it's giving quinn fabray

[idridian]

the new contrapoints video truly has everything. a detailed examination of 'problematic' fiction and sexual fantasy as a concept (and practise). natalie listing fanfic tropes. all my favourite clips from hannibal. hbomberguy namedrop. interpretations of twilight that literally made me gasp out loud. a tangent about the marquis de sade. male elephants.

[waytoobiased]

MOTHER NOTICED ME