#istj stack

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HOW TO MEMORIZE MBTI COGNITIVE FUNCTIONS/STACKS

okay, so we're all familiar with the intj, esfj, entp and all those stuff! 16personalities would say that those people are merely "introverted, intuitive, thinking, and judging" and same goes to other mbti types, but when you fall deeper into this mbti thing, you realize that there are cognitive functions!! and now you're crossed with introverted intuition (Ni), extroverted sensing (Se) and all those stuff; sure you're familiar with them now, but you're still stumped on how you'll be able to memorize it!

people often say them memorizing it just "clicks" with them someday. but what if i tell you there's an easier way to memorize it?

i'll now share you an explanation that is easy for me to understand; i hope that it'll be as easy for you as well and you can use this to your advantage!! i'll try to make it succinct as possible with additional visuals for easier understanding! (i'll exclude the explanation of what the E/I, N/S, T/F, and J/P are, since am sure most of y'all are familiar what they stand for)

---explanation below---

xxxO (J/P)

• dictates whether xxOx is an extrovert or introvert function • J = dictates xxOx is an extrovert function (Oe) • P = dictates xxOx is an introvert function (Oi)

Oxxx (E/I) [Dominant and Auxiliary Function]

• dictates whether which of the two functions (xOOx) are the dominant function and auxiliary function

The Tertiary and Inferior

• follows an alternating stack by reffering to the first 2 cognitive stack • Oi Oe Oi Oe - or - Oe Oi Oe Oi • inferior function is the opposite of dominant function: N-S, F-T; and extrovert-introvert • tertiary function is opposite of auxiliary function: N-S, F-T; and extrovert-introvert

ISTP:

I hope those make sense XDD

But!!! I'll provide some visuals to better understand it. Let's use ISTP, ESTP, ESTJ, and INFJ as our examples! (beginning of demonstration always starts with a "XXXX") [there's also an image description provided :>>]

ESTP:

ESTJ:

INFJ:

I hope this helps!!! You can ask me further about stuff related to this post if youre still confused, i'll try answering as best to my knowledge! (i'm still learning thou coz LDKSFDHSLGF)

[typologyastro]

Mbti & Astro Observations (5)

They're my personal observations, so take it with a grain of salt.

🪐 Saturn in the 1st house may have an awkward body or the way they lay, sit, stand, walk, etc. is awkward. It's hard for them to relax their body. Their firm body reminds me of a group of soldiers marching in the military.

🦂 Scorpio Moons like to show their expressions as if they're subtly unhinged. You may find their expressions strange and be confused if they're bad or normal by their expressions. But you're attracted to them because anything unknown unconsciously draw people in.

🌑 Pluto influence may make someone have a strong jaw. Or they may look like they hold their anger in like they hold their teeth tightly when someone upset them makes the end of their lips downwards. I think they do feel like that commonly. I associate Pluto with Ni and Fi. I found some dominant Fi users have this feature.

Ex: Aubrey Plaza (ISFP), Jenna Ortega (INFP), Blackpink's Jennie (ISFP)

🩷 Venus in the 1st house, Libra Rising or Libra Moon may exhibit strong Fe traits. Libra Moon eyes are average-sized and give a pretty, charming, and gentle look.

Ex: Beyoncé (Libra Rising, Venus in the 1st house, ESFJ), Mehgan Markle (Libra Moon, ENFJ), Selena Gomez (Venus in the 1st house, ISFJ), Arianna Grande (Libra Moon, ESFJ), Twice's Mina (Libra Moon, INFJ), Madison Beer (Libra Moon, ENFJ), Olivia Rodrigo (Venus in the 1st house, Libra Moon, ESFJ), Jennifer Aniston (Libra Rising, ESFJ), Harry Styles (Libra Rising, Libra Moon, ENFJ), Angelina Jolie (Venus in the 1st house, ESTP)

🌙 Also, people who have strong Cancer placements, especially Cancer Moon and Sun, Moon Conjunction Midheaven, or in the 10th house may exhibit strong Fe traits.

Ex: Prince William (Cancer Sun, Cancer Moon, ISFJ), Kate Middleton (Cancer Moon, ISFJ), Meghan Markle (Cancer Sun, Cancer Rising, ENFJ), Taylor Swift (Cancer Moon, ESFJ), Selena Gomez (Cancer Sun, Moon Conjunction Midheaven, ISFJ), Jennifer Aniston (Cancer Midheaven, ESFJ), Angelina Jolie (Cancer Rising, ESTP), Arianna Grande (Cancer Sun, ESFJ), Olivia Rodrigo (Moon Conjunction Midheaven, ESFJ), Twice's Dahyun (Cancer Moon, ESFJ), Aespa's Karina (Cancer Moon, ESFJ)

🌹 Some suspect Blackpink's Rosé to be a Libra Rising and Cancer Midheaven. Coincidentally, she's an ESFJ.

🌓 Sun trine Pluto are passionate people and influential leaders. They love what they do and are the masters of what they love. Everything they achieve seem legendary because they follow their true path. Everything falls into place when you follow your dream. They may have Fi and Ni in their stack. Both Fi and Ni are passionate about what they love.

Ex: Suga (INTJ), Blackpink's Lisa (ESFP)

🌫 Easy aspects (trine, sextile) try their best not to sound like they attack someone in the way they talk, act, etc. They look like someone who gives advice because they genuinely want to help people to be better. They probably got compliments about the traits belonging to those aspects from people in the past. They give off a peaceful and gentle vibe even with Mars, Saturn, and Pluto soft aspects.

🪨 Hard aspects (opposite, square) always talk and act like they attack someone, and someone attacks them. They likely experienced people with the traits belonging to those aspects attacking them in the past. They feel everyone come at them. You think they attack you, but they probably attack their imaginating ghost in the past. They may still be as true as the ones with easy aspects but sound harsher.

🔥 Mars in the 1st house or Aries Rising just looks hot. Their eyes are sharp, pointed upwards, and fierce-looking. They may likely be the sensing types, especially dominant/auxiliary Se users since Mars rules the bodies.

Ex: Kris Jenner (Mars in the 1st house, ESTJ), Rihanna (Aries Rising, ISFP), Megan Fox (Mars in the 1st house, ISTP), Kendall Jenner (Aries Rising, ISTJ)

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˖⁺. ﹙ the hybrid mad scientist. ﹚: rishen herrera 209 .𖹭 ݁

. . . that boy is a monster !! 🍒 : “ eyes on me, mi cielo. . . those pretty eyes are just for me, huh? all mine. even when you have long since passed, I shall hold your heart within my hands. ”

꒰ verse ꒱ 209

꒰ species ꒱ moth-spider-mantis monster

꒰ ethnicity ꒱ mexican-indian

꒰ age ꒱ 38

꒰ gender ꒱ genderfluid, amab

꒰ mbti ꒱ istj

꒰ alias ꒱ red widow ( heroes ), the mad scientist ( the resistance ), the lunatic ( the resistance ), the scarlet plague ( mutants/resistance )

꒰ story ꒱ 

charming grins and lavish effortlessnness with a possessiveness for all that is his.

after undergoing experimentation, rishen emerges with a spider-moth-mantis mutation and a hatred for his fellow enigma. ceo of the mega science company, valence, after his father’s sudden death, he aims to lead the world with knowledge and science. while also working his way to top as a seemingly benevolent, charming businessman and world renowned scientist.

behind the scenes is where the mask falls. rishen has no issue with the mass experimentation on the enigma. being a driving factor of the enigma genocide across his world.

alongside his mad doctor partner in crime and husband, jingyi herrera, the two become an unstoppable and dangerous couple. committing atrocities and puppetting world order behind the scenes. deeming the control of enigma necessary in their self-righteous mission.

 

꒰ appearance ꒱

maroon eyes, with slitted pupils ( wears contacts to hide his pupils ). typically uses winged eyeliner and sometimes red eyeshadow. he can have multiple pairs of eyes if his mutation is showing; his sclera and pupils might disappear completely in this case

mid-length, layered, fluffy and slightly curly very dark brown hair that trickles down his shoulders

very androgynous face, with sharp and soft features combined. has a bronze skin tone

slender physique, stands at the height of 6’2” ( 187cm ). can appear a bit feminine

typically dresses in reds and blacks. ranging from a classy style that can bleed into vintage. very genderfluid in his way of dressing

beauty spots: scattered on the right side of his face with one at the left corner of his lips

lips usually painted shades of red depending on his mood

retractable fangs with venom and claws

elongated tongue

fingers/hands covered with rings and chains, with long, red painted fingernails

ear piercings: a pair of standard lobe and industrial piercings — his right ear dons a transverse lobe, rook, orbital and snug piercing while his left ear holds a daith, stacked helix and forward helix piercing.

piercings: venom tongue piercings, septum piercing and nose ring, nipple piercings, navel piercing

can extend strong, flexible, scarlet and black tendrils from his back and arms

four spider legs that tear out of his back but he can retract

overall, if his mutation is having a bad day or he is going feral, he may display spider features such as multiple eyes, pincers, mouth glands that can secrete acid and so on

 

꒰ personality ꒱

oh so deceptive, in his smile, his voice and overall appearance. charming, sickeningly sweet with a faux amiability

even when he is hands-deep into an experiment, he keeps false kindness and friendly façade. gives off an eerie vibe to those with a good intuition

morally evil with a chilling lack of ethics. extremely cunning and two-faced

silver-tongued and charismatic

so effortless on everything that he does, exuding a cool confidence

intelligent and quick-witted. loves playing mind games on people and getting into their psyche

certain that whatever he is doing is for the betterment of humanity, beyond self-righteous

quite stubborn and makes sure to see his projects through, as a result has a tendency of overworking

may appear serene but is quite temperamental, displays his anger and bitterness in a scarily calm way with a charming smile and smooth words in spite of his horrific actions

 

꒰ with a lover ꒱

a yandere lover

that charming personality does not fade with a lover, rishen is often quite flirty and all sorts of teasing with his beloved.

loves flustering you — it is a part of his favorite pass-times. fluster you and then grab you by the waist, only to tease you further.

affection is mainly displayed in a physical manner. he will touch anything and everything on you that you allow him to touch and kiss, all so that he can worship you and make you feel good.

another form of his affection is through gifts. he adores spoiling you with a wide variety of whatever it is you either need or want.

very verbal in his love for you and shameless in every way; his tongue holds no filter.

late night dances in his office, bringing you coffees or teas through the day, and finding you in the middle of the day simply to pour his affection out on you.

he is a very passionate and dedicated lover — however, there is a darker side to it. rishen grows obsessive and quite possessive, his nature that of a yandere.

and yes he takes it to the extremes. . .

should someone merely look at you in a way he deems wrong, it is their funeral.

do not fight him on this, he’ll lock you away for his eyes only.

 

꒰ strengths ꒱

intelligence: highly intelligent from a young age, resulting in advanced, prodigal level of skill in science and technological fields.

increased bodily function: advanced strength, speed, agility and durability.

heightened senses: advanced sight, smell, hearing, taste and awareness of surroundings.

healing factor: an average healing factor that heals his injuries far quicker than an average human

tendrils: strong, resilient, red and black tendril-like appendages that can be produced from his back and extend from his hands

spider legs: large spider legs that tear through his back at times, it is extremely painful for him but are very useful in combat.

fangs & claws: retractable fangs that secrete paralyzing venom at will along with retractable claws from the pads of his fingers that can tear through a variety of materials.

 

꒰ weaknesses ꒱

mutation: his mutation as a whole, while it does grant him a wide variety of abilities is also his greatest weakness.

metabolism: has an extremely fast metabolism that requires him eating a lot through the day.

abandonment issues: he suffers from horrible abandonment issues, which can cause him to get erratic and panicked whenever someone he loves does leave him on purpose after arguments, tiffs, etc.

heart condition: suffers from a heart condition that requires him taking medication in order to make sure his heart stays stable.

stabilisers: in order to control his mutation, he is required to inject himself with stabilisers on an alternating daily basis.

 

꒰ relationships ꒱

jìngyí herrera: husband, best friend, business partner

javier herrera: father, deceased

rishima singhania: mother, deceased

alessio agresta arias: best friend, deceased

wèi lìxuě: enemey

liú tàishī: enemy

zhào haitāo: enemy

lorenzo agresta arias: enemy

park tae-hyun: enemy

 

꒰ extra ꒱

he is the ceo of valence and practically runs the city of nueva york

speaks spanish ( latin american ), speaks mandarin, speaks hindi, speaks tamil.

he knows asl.

has a cat named Beatrice Herrera Reina the 2nd queen of the abyssal dread. ( his and his husband’s “daughter” )

he has four dobbermen: cupcake, vani(lla), (cara)mel & macha

he sometimes smokes

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2sun on and off cameras

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*quotations in the bottom of the pictures are narrated by the video editor. dialogue in italics are spoken in english, dialogue in bold are spoken in chinese. content warning: one curse word*

*did i write this because i miss haechan? yes. yes i did. get well soon haechannie 🥺*

00z lives 2018 vs. 2020

in the 2018 live when talking about spoilers, hannah and haechan both started doing the same choreography, so jeno stopped haechan while jaemin stopped hannah.

they exchanged a look then continued the choreo, so jeno shoved haechan off the chair while jaemin pulled hannah onto his lap, acting like a straight jacket

(then moments later spoiling choreo again while dancing to chewing gum until renjun shoved them both away)

in the 2020 live, hannah and haechan explained the iphone macbook bit to jeno, then haechan reached over her to pinch jeno’s ears while hannah poked his side.

jeno just pinched haechan’s arm and started tickling her side, making them both start yelling

Bonus Clip #3 | Analog Trip NCT 127: Escape From Magic Island

they all agreed to throw haechan into the water, and he runs away and hides behind hannah

and she looks at the older members, grabs a paddle and looks at them “i will splash you if you touch my twin!” but there was a splash behind her.

she turned around and saw haechan dove into the water willingly, so she gave him a look

“i can’t help you if you do stuff like that!” “it was throw or be thrown!”

he was thrown anyway while taeil lifted her in a fireman’s hold, bringing her to johnny

[BE ORIGINAL] NCT DREAM(엔시티 드림) ‘ISTJ’ (Behind)

while monitoring their cuts, haechan’s backhugging her, patting her stomach and she starts squirming before breaking from his hold

he looks at her offended, then there’s a small pause before she pulls his shirt up, making him panic to hold it back down and hide his own stomach

he moves to do the same to until he realized she was in a bralette

“try. try. just you try, lee donghyuck” “don’t test me, lee haeeun”

and he just throws her over his shoulder, and she’s yelling and mark's just following them all “guys? guys? haechan, put her down”

PADO Dance Practice Behind VS Concert Performance

during a break, there’s just a clip of them trying to (for lack of better terms) out-babygirl each other while doing the chorus, and all the other members are just watching all amused

cut to them dancing the chorus after their shared pre-chorus facing each other, eyes intense just until the second “you got me so satisfied” where they turned to face opposite directions, but beside each other instead then fist bumping as the piano chords sound at the end of the chorus

2sun during concerts compilation

cue a compilation of them hoeing it out together during baby don’t like it stages

them stacking accessories on each other during candy stages

their slow motion to normal speed high five during faster stages

their play arguments before mfal stages

2016 Chewing Gum Making Film

taeyong speaking to the camera: “it’s so interesting. our 127 maknae is over there acting like an oppa to our haeeun. it’s so interesting to see, i don’t think he’s like this even with his actual siblings.”

the camera pans to hannah and haechan, but the two are just seen eating, so the camera pans back to taeyong

taeyong: “you didn’t catch it? such a shame, it was really cute.”

2017 Doyoung Hosting the NCT Dream MFAL Comeback Show

“hey, lee haechan, why are you being like this? where’s the maturity you said you’d have because you’re a hyung in dream?” “hyung, are you haeeunie?” “no?” “exactly.”

*doyoung looks at the crowd with an accusatory look while the dreamies laugh*

“no, but it really is weird seeing haechan being an oppa to hannah. he’s like a different person.”

2018 Taeyong Vlive

“haeeunie is my daughter, everyone. now that she’s in 127, i’ll be taking care of her more. but i don’t think i can ever beat haechannie. haechannie is our maknae, but he’s like a real oppa with our haeeunie. he avoids doing it on camera, but he always takes care of her very well. it’s sweet, if you think about it.”

2019 Chenle and Jisung live

jisung: “hannah noona and haechan hyung? they’re with the 127 hyungs right now, working very hard.”

chenle: “right. i feel so thankful to them for working hard for both 127 and dream. i feel sorry whenever i see them go from one schedule to another, it’s like they aren’t resting.”

jisung: “but they’re taking care of themselves for sure! haechan hyung especially makes sure hannah noona always eats and sleeps well”

chenle (imitating haechan): “haeeun-ah, time for lunch” “haeeun-ah, let’s go to bed, you need energy, okay?” “is our haeeunie okay? is she hurt? is she tired?”

jisung: “woah, you sound exactly like him!”

2020 Kun live

“kun baba?” *chuckles* “i am. i’m huanuo’s kun baba… partly. don’t get me wrong, i love hannah and the fact that we’re working together again after two years, but i don’t see her all the time, you know? i can’t be her baba all the time because she’s always off on schedules.” *sighs* “i’m just glad she has haechan. You may not believe it from haechan’s very bright and energetic energy, but he becomes very mellow and caring when he’s with her. it’s like watching him turn into a dad.”

2021 Yangyang live

“do you ever get jealous of haechan and hannah? no, i don’t. maybe once, but that was for, like, two seconds. yeah haechan is actually very big brother to her, you know? you guys have never, like, hung out with just those two without staff or cameras, there’s a switch. i mean, hannah is still her, but just a little more kid-like. just a little. haechan becomes like an extra protective big brother. they really are like actual siblings. them and mark hyung, too!”

2022 Sungchan live

*sounds of the door opening, sungchan looks, bows his head, then looks back to the live*

“i thought it was hannah noona. she likes checking on me every now and then, but i forgot she’s still on tour. that was a staff just now. hannah noona… she’s like my second mom. she really takes care of me well, which is why it’s a little strange for me to see her with haechan hyung. He’s like hannah noona’s personal hannah noona. do you get it? did i say that right? it’s a little bit like if me, chenle, and and jisung have hannah noona, noona has haechan hyung.”

2023 Yuta on Weverse

hannah is ignoring me right now

not by choice

haechan has my kitsune wrapped in a blanket because she has a cold right now

i want to take care of her but haechan said it’s his job and she’s his responsibility

when did he get so grown up, our maknae?

[N’-153] We gon’ resonate 🔥 | NCT 2020💚MAMA 안무연습 비하인드🌟

around 7 minutes and 20 seconds into the video there’s a really quick moment where you can see them behind johnny dancing while the choreographer was discussing details

she was looking down, and he was just a little hunched over to be more at level with her while holding her face, looking like he was asking her something, and she shook her head, then he nodded, and that was all seen before the clip cut

Mark’s IG Story

hannah straight up just walked into a glass door because she was on her phone, then haechan cradles her forehead, lightly scolding her for not looking where she was going meanwhile mark’s just in laughs going “cute, why are the babies so cute”

[Un Cut] Take #3 | ‘Kick It’ Dance Practice

while taeyong’s talking about the famous dance moves in the choreography, you can see hannah and haechan’s reflection in the mirror where he had sat on the floor, making her sit next to him then urging her to drink water while they both marked the choreography in the mirror

2020 앙게이트 20 📝 #1 | 2020 ENQUETE 20 | NCT RESONANCE Pt.2

in the very corner of the video when jaemin is answering the eighth question, they’re walking, and hannah trips. haechan quickly catches her, wrapping an arm around her shoulders and helping her walk

DREAM SKETCH : Page #2 | THE DREAM TOUR BEHIND

at the very beginning of the video when jisung is vlogging with the mirror behind him, you can see the reflection of hannah and haechan on the couch where haechan is rubbing something onto her knee

“woah, can you see that? this is rare to see on camera, everyone. haechan hyung’s natural state when he’s with hannah noona. let’s not disturb them, he’s putting muscle reliever on noona’s knee because it’s been bothering her”

Dance Practice Behind | Ep.1 | 2023 NCT CONCERT - NCT NATION: To The World

when jisung, ten, and renjun are talking, you can hear haechan and hannah in the background

“haeeun-ah, have you taken your medicine?” “yes, and i’m fine” “just making sure. i didn’t see you eat breakfast today” “i’m good, oppa, i had a sandwich a while ago, and jungwoo oppa and i are gonna have a big lunch. it’s just a cold, stop worrying” “you know i can’t do that”

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hirano typology analysis <3

okay, everyone! let's start off from this page first thing first.

as you can see he's typed estj 1w2 but let's go further in this:

estjs are te-fi si-ne axis based which means his te and his si need fi and ne to function (this axis is applied for ti-fe se-ni as well and goes both ways).

(for anyone who doesn't know how this works: cognitive function in a stack of 8 make a type AND it's shadow type (your "opposite" type) as you can see in the screenshot up there functions are set this way: introvert > extr. > intr > extr. OR extr. > intr. > extr. > intr.)

let's start with his dom-aux stack

honestly, i believe he's an estj as well so im going to stick with this typing.

his dominant function is Te, i think this guy has an unbearable amount of Te here 😭

up to now I've noticed he is:

- rational

- more in his head than his heart

- pragmatic

- focused on efficiency

- very responsible

- direct (says what he thinks in your face even if it might hurt you (for ex. like when he rejected kagi for the first time)

as for his Si, which is high as well, this is what I've noticed:

- respects traditions (doesn't mean he supports them but he has nothing against them)

- sense of duty and responsibility

- he needs structure and order

- he's loyal

- resistant to major changes

- stubborn

- tidy

actually about his dominant function (between Te and Si) i have something to say about his Fi in the tert-inf stack. i think he uses much more Fi than Ne so I'd move it to tert. position and put Ne in inf. that'd make him an istj tho. in the latest chapter we can see how he thinks it's "right" not to stop Kagi from moving on but it's not an action of pure morality since sensei's shown us his whole reasonment. we can see that it's more of a "rational morality" which in a in a typology aspect is clearly Te and Fi working together. Still, i think both an istj and estj typing are correct since there's only a difference in the functions positions (estj: Te-Si-Ne-Fi istj: Si-Te-Fi-Ne).

okay now comes my fav part of typology!

enneagram, tritype and instinctual variants!

im gonna note them here so I don't have to scroll up over and over again.

enneagram: 1w2

tritype: 152

instinctual variants: so/sp

alright, so. I'd make some changes here.

first thing, his enneagram. i think e1 is correct for him since e1 is a perfectionist who thinks they have some kind of mission, they're usually systematic and responsible (in his case his self-given mission could be helping kagi with his studies for ex.) while for his w2, i honestly don't know because e2s help others out of a personal gain (to feel better about themselves) which I don't think is hirano's case because he genuinely helps others even if he doesn't get anything in return. he could be a 1w9 in my opinion. type 9s look for harmony and peace and fear having their harmony shaken/broken which could be related to his change avoidance? i think it's surely better than 1w2 (since type 2s are subconsciously selfish and he isn't selfish at all).

tritype: i think it's correct, although I wouldn't type him an e5 since he's not shown us he likes to collect knowledge "just because"

instinctual variants: I don't think so/sp is accurate, he's probably an sx/so. from my point of view it's like he values his close relationships more, by this i mean it's like he's completely comfortable with only one person (which is kagi) and I wouldn't change the social typing

we reached the end of my analysis!

it's probably confusing since my thought process is very messy to begin with, I'm sorry if it seems like that 😭

cyaa <3

[infectedcannibalcorpse]

introverted cognitive function (Ni, Si, Ti, Fi) dom stacking (IEIE, IIEE)

INTJ: NiTeFiSe, NiTiFeSe

INFJ: NiFeTiSe, NiFiTeSe

ISTJ: SiTeFiNe, SiTiFeNe

ISFJ: SiFeTiNe, SiFiTeNe

INTP: TiNeSiFe, TiNiSeFe

INFP: FiNeSiTe, FiNiSeTe

ISTP: TiSeNiFe, TiSiNeFe

ISFP: FiSeNiTe, FiSiNeTe

extraverted cognitive function (Te, Fe, Ne, Se) dom stacking (EIEI, EEII)

ENTJ: TeNiSeFi, TeNeSiFi

ENFJ: FeNiSeTi, FeNeSiTi

ESTJ: TeSiNeFi, TeSeNiFi

ESFJ: FeSiNeTi, FeSeNiTi

ENTP: NeTiFeSi, NeTeFiSi

ENFP: NeFiTeSi, NeFeTiSi

ESTP: SeTiFeNi, SeTeFiNi

ESFP: SeFiTeNi, SeFeTiNi

[rainytypology]

ATEEZ Wooyoung MBTI Analysis

- ESFP -

An in-depth analysis of an idol's MBTI type. Based on my opinion and observations, may change later. Not an expert.

ESFP (Se - Fi - Te - Ni)

Dom: Se (Extroverted Sensing)

A perceiving function that uses our 5 senses to process the external world.

Wooyoung is always aware of the present moment, quick to react and to take action. He also pays attention to physical things such as aesthetics, the visuals of the performance, the way he looks, etc physical appearances matter a lot to him.

He enjoys photography and videography, which are pretty good activities for Se - it allows him to use his senses to make visually stimulating images and videos. Physically engaging activities seem like the best way to energize him e.g cooking and riding a bike. Cooking is great for his Se as it engages with all his senses - all the movement in cooking, tasting the foods, the aromas, watching the food cook, plating, maybe he enjoys hearing the sounds of food cooking as well and/or the way kitchen tools slightly hit each other (e.g knife on a cutting board).

This moment especially was an incredibly Se dom moment. Comparing it to Si user Jongho (Si has to step back and assess first), being the Se dom he is, Woo just went for it.

Aux: Fi (Introverted Feeling)

A judging function that uses one's own values and belief to compare and make choices

As Fi wants to be authentic, that is what Wooyoung always strives for - he always wants to express himself well, to be real. He wants people to like him for him. He returns the same gesture with others - he wants to know the real version of others. Wooyoung tries not to make assumptions at first meet since he knows he will not learn everything just from one encounter. He seems very empathetic.

Tert: Te (Extroverted Thinking)

A judging function that uses established facts and systems to make objective, working decisions.

He's quite goal oriented and takes time to plan to achieve these goals, even if it's not the most detailed. Either way, he knows how to get what he wants and works hard to reach his achievements.

Wooyoung lays down the rules as well - Te can be by the book, which Wooyoung can be sometimes. E.g when he was explaining how he found it rude when juniors would not put in the effort to correctly bow down to him and other senior artists. Wooyoung has a strong belief in being humble and kind (Fi) and wants to implement this in everyone.

Inf: Ni (Introverted Intuition)

A perceiving function that uses one's own personal insights and ideas

In his episode of "Fill in the Blank" series, Wooyoung said he wanted to use dance to convey deeper messages and emotions for others. He wants to be a sense of comfort, the light in other's darkness. He has always wanted to make an impact on others from a young age, especially considering how much he values relationships.

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Why is he not an xSFJ or ISTJ

Both types use Si - Ne, which I do not see in Wooyoung at all...xSFJ's Fe is understandable, but Wooyoung is sometimes a bit too straightforward and honest to be using Fe in his main stack though lol.

And ISTJ just does not make sense in general for him.

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Other analysis:

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Kpop typology list

[saltyfishdream]

ENTP and ISTJ

ISTJ: And how did you prepare for the presentation?

ENTP: With my brain, thank you very much.

ISTJ: ...OK. (This guy is hopeless)

ISFP and ISFJ

ISFJ: (being emo) I don't have Fe...

ISFP: It's alright *at least* you have more Fe than I do (has no Fe in their function stack)

ISFJ: ;-; That's too true...

ENFP and INTP

ENFP: I want someone to hurt me

INTP: Good. (Takes out the hair removal wax)

ISTJ and ENFP

ISTJ: I read your ESFJ x ISFP fanfic and I didn't like it.

ENFP: Come on it says Dead Dove Don't Eat in the tags if you don't like it then don't read it!

ISTJ: The taboo themes is just a minor problem.

ENFP: So what are you complaining about???

ISTJ: I have never seen so many grammar mistakes in my life.

ENFP: *dies of probably annoyance

[dr-lizortecho]

Liz Ortecho’s MBTI (or Cognitive Personality Type)

So before we get into this, I’m about to say something that is going to make a lot of people familiar with MBTI have an initial gut reaction of “no”, make them furious or just give them comical floating question marks above their heads. It’s going to challenge the understanding of the personality types that are presented in mainstream quick click through quizzes and yes- even the annoying ones they made you fill out at work to analyze your work style. Because I am not using MBTI as presented by Myers Briggs, instead I am using Cognitive Theory (as far as I understand it without having completed multiple Psychology degrees). This theory is the one Myers Briggs read and re-interpreted and made into the recognizable 16 personality types. It’s also been built off of by many people since her- and my understanding of it is impacted by all of the readings I have done across all of these psychologists and other people’s works on this theory.

Now- let’s clarify a very important feature of why what I’m about to say is gonna make people clench their teeth or call me stupid- the LETTERS IN THE PERSONALITY TYPES DONT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK THEY MEAN (that being that you know of them from Myers Briggs tests). Instead they are a coded formula that informs you of the equation to get the placement of the right cognitive functions. Essentially the E and the I inform one of the dominant loops direction (that being introverted or extroverted) which in turn informs the direction of the other two functions. If none of that makes sense- I apologize, I’m not here to talk about it (lol) but rather say…

Liz Ortecho is an ENFP. However, her unique trauma can on occasion make her present ESTJ and/or ISTJ (now ik some of you are asking “what do those have in common?”- the answer being them and the INFP all share the same four cognitive functions! Just with different preferences).

But we are here to talk about what an ENFP is and why Liz is one.

So the ENFP is of course characterized by their functions which are Extroverted Intuition (Ne) Introverted Feeling (Fi) Extroverted Thinking (Te) and Introverted Sensing (Si). Making their function stack: Ne-Fi-Te-Si. Now this probably looks like a string of letters (I am so sorry- ik what all of this looked like when I was first learning- so I’m sorry, but this is the best I can do). Now for someone who is mostly familiar with Myers Briggs they are probably thinking something along the lines of “why isn’t Liz’s thinking function higher?” to which I can only simply say that it is. It’s higher then it looks (take Max for example, his function stack is Si-Te-Fi-Ne, and yet his thinking function is functionally lower) this is because when using functions the most visible to the outside eye are the dominant direction loop and/or the extroverted loop (the latter being more so easy to see personality characteristics vs overall easy to see- idk if that makes sense). So essentially Liz’s dominant function loop and her extroverted loop is Ne-Te, which makes those functions her primary resources and most easily identifiable characteristics.

Now what do these functions mean? We’ll look at them through loops since that is how they will generally appear (sorry- I sound so dumb talking like this, someone shoot me).

Liz’s dominant function is Extroverted Intuition (Ne), this is her strongest cognitive function and the one all her others will serve (that is to say the other three don’t tend to function as individuals but as ways to inform/validate the dominant function- the exception to this rule is the auxiliary function (her Fi) which we’ll talk about later). Now to define Extroverted Intuition: this function takes in and connects information from the broad external world, it’s a system that focuses on the interconnectedness of systems and can follow these connections using an objective logical framework. This function is characterized by its ability to see and hold multiple possible outcomes, as well as its continuous unconscious connection of seemingly unconnected ideas. Now this doesn’t really say what Ne is, it only really explains how it appears (let’s just say the intuitions are tricky to explain). For Liz this function appears in almost every interaction and scene she is in, it’s her dominant function and her primary way of interacting with the outside world. She is full of possibilities and curiosity. Wanting to understand for the sake of understanding as well as seeing how different possibilities affect the outcome of any scenario. In this lies her love of science, which is a logical framework which allows her to dissect these interconnections and use this function on a daily basis. As well as feeding the curiosity and giving her concrete answers and scenarios. In addition, Ne works to give intuitive guidance to the user, and this cognitive version of it is used to make intuitive ideas about the external/objective world. This can be seen with her “gut” focusing on Max’s lies and the actual physical world around her. Liz is very attune to her intuition and lets it guide her more often than not, it’s her strongest function after all.

Liz’s tertiary function is Extroverted Thinking (Te), which is her logical framework and her second most visible/strong function. This function uses external logic to seek efficiency and organize data. Extroverted Thinking is characterized by its ability to see information as objective and outside of oneself, it aims to deconstruct information and reorder it into the universal system. This function essentially creates its own intellectual formula with in which to understand and interpret the external world. This formula is seen by the creator as the objective truth. Liz used this function to dissect and organize information as she comes across it. It serves her Ne through adding logic and sound reason to her previously seen possibilities. This can be seen when she tells Kyle in 1x03 that “murder investigations have clues. I want a clue… I need a motive… I need to understand what happened that night, before I blow up his life”. She is seeking to prop up and inform her Ne’s gut feeling of Max being involved/lying with evidence, this evidence would support her Ne “hypothesis” and make it concrete instead of a possibility. Furthermore, Liz’s Te is visible in her talking patterns, her endless drive to define and logically order information as it comes through her system (for example, her verbally following Michael’s discussion of biology and tech in 2x01). This function paired with her dominant Ne makes her an amazing scientist and mystery solver, as they pretty subconsciously follow the scientific method. That being creating hypothesis’s and creating logical/objective/recreate-able processes to prove or disprove them.

Liz’s auxiliary function is Introverted Feeling (Fi). This function is defined by an internal/subjective moral framework built from a young age by the internal self. Introverted feeling is a more hidden and in depth version of feeling and processing emotions. It is characterized by being concrete and difficult to adjust, subjective to the point moral/ethical choices are shaped by and shape the understanding of self, and ethics being developed based on personal preference instead of other people’s value systems. Liz’s Introverted Feeling (Fi) primarily serves her Ne, however, since it is the first function of her introverted loop it can sometimes act in and of itself. This function is most visible in Liz’s personality by how she approaches interpersonal relationships and moral dilemmas. Within her relationships Liz relies on her Fi to guide her as well as to process her feelings. She is very much in her own head, feeling things without tangible connections and struggles to put words to those feelings however intense. This is something that can be seen in her struggle to communicate her feelings to Max in 1x04 when he asks how she feels- leaving her to angrily wave her hands and say “I feel this” and motions between them. Liz is guided by a moral and ethical framework built on her own understanding and preferences- allowing her room to fall outside of social expectation. Her Fi is very evident in scenes in which she discusses how her subjective morality will affect her sense of self in the long run. This can be seen in 1x07 when she tells Isobel any future violent actions will be on Liz’s hands for not revealing her, in 1x12 when she reveals she hasn’t been sleeping or eating in an attempt to save Noah because she is afraid what letting him die will make her and again in 3x12 when she tells Heath she is worried about who she is if she prioritizes her people over the good her research could do for the world at large. Now extroverted sensing could make all of these choices given the framework had the same values and interpretations of actions, however, the focus on how Liz’s emotional internal sense of self would shift depicts Introverted Feeling.

Liz’s inferior function is Introverted Sensing (Si). This cognitive function is characterized by the perception of the world through an internal lense, that being checking newly perceived information through a system of knowns. This system is heavily based on memories and past experiences. Introverted Sensing is a conscious recall of information that was “sensed” in the physical world, be it music or trauma. This function not only recalls this information but uses it as a basis of knowledge to draw meaning and connection to the current physical experience. Liz uses this function to help inform or draw connection between the past and the present. Whether it be her bringing up Helena’s car accident to Rosa in 2x02 or their defeat of Noah and Jones to Max in 4x07.

All of which to say Liz’s strongest and most visible functions are her Ne-Te, which creates her logical framework and curious nature. But not far behind that is her Fi, which is her heart, the part of her that strives to be good in everything she does and fight for what she believes in.

[skyechorus]

Mbti analysis of teru mikami

Before jumping into the analysis, the ending of death note needs to be brought up because people tend to have a misconception about it.

More importantly, cutting right to the result of my analysis, i think he definitely is an ESTJ. Here's why:

It's a general notion that light had failed because of his overconfidence but if we think about it, he actually had no reason not to be overconfident. It wasn't that Light's plans were inherently flawed. It was that Near used Mikami's predictability to his own advantage. Mikami has a rigid way of thinking and his worldview is pretty much shaped by his childhood circumstances. We see him relying heavily on his past experiences and having internalized rules from the past, which clearly gives me Si vibes. Most people think his intelligence is his Ni in action. However, that assumption comes from bias. Si focus on tradition and precedent allows him not to challenge kira's ideology which aligns with his own black and white moral code. He clearly states that he categorizes people into two parties: good and bad. Nothing in between. He clings to kira's structure because it reinforces his Si based wordview.

Noticed how Mikami struggles to anticipate Near's counter-strategies? That's his underdeveloped Ne showing up. Also it's evident because he is that punctual, disciplined, routine-based, systemic and methodical person. His approach is no-nonsense and straight to the point. Not letting himself get diverted by irrelevance.

Moreover, it's very much clear that Te ranks the highest in his cognitive function stack. He is efficient and not the type of person to shy away from taking a step, which Light himself being a Te user finds commendable. Light was convinced that he'd found the one who he could rely on. Mikami's mechanical and systemic elimination of targets show a proficient Te user. And that means he automatically has Fi as his inferior function. His absolute judgment of things around him indicates his lack of flexibility and nuance.

To sum it all up, estj fits him the best because his behavior consistently leans to Te-Si. Since he emphasizes routine, structure, and his strict adherence to what he deems "right" based on his past experiences.

But one could even say it's istj, given his solitary and detached nature. And yes, he surely is detached and we know why but it doesn't have anything to do with him being an introvert. He is actually pretty good at communicating and doesn't shy away from confronting (remember how he'd asked takada to hand over her phone to light even though he didn't know who it would go to). His energy is very outward focused and he undoubtedly is extremely decisive, efficient, at the same time task and action-oriented. So yes, he is in fact an estj.

Why not Ni?

Like i said, imagine Light, someone of Ni use could've anticipated potential vulnerabilities and threats and would've adapted accordingly. But Mikami's strong adherence to routine sabotaged his potential. He couldn't step outside his established methods. And Near had perfectly pinpointed this weakness of his. Near won because he exploited Mikami's Si driven predictability which he himself confessed. In the last Ep. Gevanni says that Mikami goes to the bank on the 25th of every month and since he went to the bank for two days in a row, it was easy for them to suspect there's a reason. As detectives, it's their job to find abnormalities in a system and connect the dots accordingly.

In a scenario, where light and mikami get to work together, i imagine them being formidable. They had so much potential together. Mikami would have helped Light be more grounded and Light would have helped Mikami be more flexible. Even more potent than the Light and L duo in my opinion, because of so many reasons. I might discuss it sometime later.

That is all. I wrote this because i haven't seen Mikami being typed as an ESTJ anywhere on the internet, even though it makes the perfect sense for him.

[literatureloverx]

Hi Snow White 💜 I hope you're having a beautiful day just as you are 💜

What do you think about XNTJs in general? Do you blend well with them?

Thank you very much for the compliment, dear anon.♥️

First of all, I love INTJs. Second of all, yes. However, this isn’t because I’m an INFJ or because INFJs are always good with xNTJ types. It’s simply what I’m attracted to, whether platonically or romantically.

I prefer INTJs because they have the auxiliary function Te. While I love strong Te users, I prefer it as the auxiliary function in the cognitive function stack. Te-dominant types have inferior Fi, and their use of Te can sometimes be overwhelming. They often lack the awareness when it’s too much or not well received (Fe demon). That’s why my primary choice would be either an INTJ or ISTJ, and my secondary choice would be ENTJ or ESTJ.

I blend well with them, not in the way they would primarily choose, though. I appreciate them in the most sincere way. I value what they’re good at, and I admire their minds and works —as well as their reasons. Not many people do this in the truest sense, and they respond well to it. I’m not overly emotional but still warm and caring, which is usually refreshing for such types, according to my observations.

However, I should probably mention some downsides as well. I dislike being forced to squeeze out results, as it stresses me out easily because I worry so much. They’re not very sensitive to such “weaknesses” since it may come easily to them. They would need to notice it and think about it first in order to empathise. Also, if the dynamic shifts drastically, I could end up in a situation where I’m always giving but never receiving.

(I will say something very controversial, and I hope no one kills me for saying this: xNTJ types are sensitive—just not in the same way as strong Fi users.)

[ophelia16stufff]

Persona 5 Royal MBTI types

made a self-indulgent mbti typing of persona 5 royal characters. i did this by going through different cognitive stacks, and double checking if the corresponding mbti 16 personality types kinda mapped with the actual characters.

so basically, the dominant and auxiliary functions have to be a pairing of the perceiving function and the judging function.

the perceiving function is how the character takes in the world, and the judging function is how the character affects the world.

Nx and Sx are both perceiving functions, Tx and Fx are both judging functions.

furthermore, the introverted and extraverted attribute isnt necessarily about whether the character is an introvert or an extrovert, but rather about the nature of the functions itself.

so if a function is extraverted, it is sourced from the external world. if a function is introverted, it is sourced from the internal world. perceiving and judgmental functions can be sourced from both worlds.

so, these are the interpretations that i have taken about the cognitive functions, that ive treated as the base rules.

Ne vs Ni: connections made from the present environment vs long term understanding of the world

Se vs Si: awareness of material reality vs reality processed by past experience treated as fact

Te vs Ti: objective logic vs subjective logic

Fe vs Fi: objective value vs subjective value

below ive mapped the characters with an MBTI personality type and corresponding strengths and weaknesses that i feel match the character pretty well.

akechi goro - ENTJ || dom - Te || aux - Ni   

Te - Ni - Se - Fi Strengths: Efficient, Self-Confident, Strong-Willed, Strategic Thinker, Charismatic  Weaknesses: Stubborn, Dominant, Intolerant, Arrogant, Poor Handling of Emotions, Cold, Ruthless

kurusu akira - ENTP || dom - Ne || aux - Ti 

Ne - Ti - Fe - Si Strengths: Quick thinker, Original, Brain stormer, Charismatic  Weaknesses: Ego-centric, Dislikes practical matters 

sakura futaba - INFP || dom - Fi || aux - Ne 

Fi - Ne - Si - Te Strengths: Empathetic, Open-Minded, Creative, Passionate  Weaknesses: Self-isolating, Self-critical 

kitagawa yusuke - INTJ || dom - Ni || aux - Te

Ni - Te - Fi - Se Strengths: Informed, Independent, Determined, Curious, Original  Weaknesses: Dismissive of emotions, Overly critical, Socially clueless

takamaki ann - ENFP || dom - Ne || aux - Fi

Ne - Fi - Te - Ni Strengths: Perceptive, Enthusiastic, Excellent communicator, Easygoing, Good-natured, Positive Weaknesses: Unfocused, Disorganized, Restless

makoto - ISTJ || dom - Si || aux - Te

Si - Te - Fi - Ne Strengths: Honest and Direct, Disciplined, Responsible, Practical, Organized and Effective  Weaknesses: Stubborn, Always by the Book, Judgmental 

ryuji - ESFP || dom - Se || aux - Fi

Se - Fi - Te - Ni Strengths: Bold, Positive and enthusiastic, Hands-on and observant, People skills  Weaknesses: Sensitive, Easily bored, Poor long-term planner, Unfocused 

haru - ISFJ || dom - Si || aux - Fe

Si - Fe - Ti - Ne Strengths: Supportive, Reliable, Observant, Enthusiastic, Hardworking, Humble Weaknesses: Represses her feelings, Reluctant to change

sumire - INFJ || dom - Ni || aux - Fe

Ni - Fe - Ti - Se Strengths: Principled, Passionate, Altruistic Weaknesses: Sensitive to criticism, Perfectionistic, Prone to burnout

alrighty, so i did struggle for some of the characters, so ill just drop explanations for the ones that i feel are maybe controversial:

kurusu akira

so this guy is heavily debated, and i think he's the character most left to interpretation, therefore maybe being the hardest to type, but i do think i have a solid argument as to why i think hes an entp. entps are quite rebellious, and the whole point of the game and the protagonist of it is to be rebellious. challenging the status quo, refusing to accept that 'this is how things are meant to be' is how he unlocks his persona. hes the character with the biggest rebellious streak, in the sense that he will always be the contrarian. i mean, his final persona is literally a demon lord, shooting the god of control in his face. cant get more rebellious than that, methinks. furthermore, when the PT kinda lose sight of what they are supposed to stand for before the mementos boss and facing maruki, i feel that its canon that joker refuses to accept what society deems as reality. he is the leader, and he decides that the PT decides its own justice- justice that goes against gods made from the wishes of the masses. when it comes to his personal life, one may argue that he has to be a feeling type, cuz of the many confidants hes got. but i think joker is more of a thinking type- hes definitely not a saviour or saint, he makes deals with his confidants. its a give and take relationship, something that both parties initially agree to, before it becomes something more personal. ive also noticed that his responses that are logical counter arguments as opposed to emotional words of comfort, tend to be the best response. many of his confidants prefer challenging words and different ideas of thought, and i think its safe to assume such words are canon, or atleast a facet of his canon cuz i do like to think his crack responses are canon lol. another thing that i feel is entp behaviour is his competitiveness. this is most expressed with akechi, a character that he has intellectual debates with and games where they keep score of victories. i like to think that in the metaverse and in matters related to the metaverse, he leans more into entp behaviour. but outside, he tends to tone it down, which is why its a bit harder to type, but i do think the entp kinda shines through. i disagree with the theory/idea that joker is the mask akira wears in the metaverse. akira is the mask that joker wears in the real world, and the whole point of the true ending when akira removes his glasses is his acceptance of his true self, his reflection that is joker. this is not to say that he is that one dimensional leader character whatsoever, akira is a really interesting 'silent protagonist' with his many masks. also, his mbti type's weakness being ego-centric might seem pretty harsh but keep in mind that the game's bad endings- him accepting both Yaldabaoth's deal and Maruki's deal is pretty much a consequence of that characteristic.

sakura futaba

[TLDR at the end] umm ok being an intp myself, im really surprised by the number of people who have typed her as an intp? hopefully im not wildly incorrect about her being an infp, lmao. but i feel like many people went off by stereotypes to type her as an intp? like the fact that shes very techy and is like a genius hacker, she finds social situations to be quite hard to navigate, her typical intp-ish interests ig are kinda misleading and...dont really have that much to do with her character. i think interests and personality types can be just correlation and not causation. now as to why i think shes an infp, when i looked at the cognitive stacks, i really felt that Fi and Ne fit her. for starters, ill address why i think her judging function is feeling and not thinking. this is simply because of why she decided most of her actions in the game. her starting medjed, her isolating herself after her mother's suicide, her becoming a phantom thief. infact, ill compare it with the actions of another character whose judging function is thinking, with similar circumstances: akechi goro. both characters are prodigies in their own fields - goro being a supernatural assassin at 14, and futaba being the founder of medjed when she was around the same age. both choosing their respective paths for enacting justice. they are both characters who have suffered to being blamed for their mother's deaths, and from child abuse. however, when their methods of personal justice compromised moral values, they reacted very differently. goro chose to sacrifice his morals, while futaba stopped associating herself with the international hacking group she had founded when it strayed from her morals. the difference is in what motivates both characters' decisions. goro chooses to sacrifice his morals of what is good and what is bad, justifies his alarming bad moral choices by his logic that it has to be done to entrust his position as shido's loyal hitman. meanwhile futaba is scared, paranoid and drives herself into suicidal guilt that she an unforgivable person. she is so distraught by the notion that she is an awful person, and condemns herself to lie in a tomb of her own making. a lot of other of futaba's dialogues and actions also just make sense to be of a feeling type. she tries to express her emotions and be empathetic of others. her social awkwardness does not come from intrinsic values, but rather the fact that she is unused to social situations due to abuse. she genuinely enjoys hanging out with her friends, and seeks them actively. TLDR basically, when we consider Tx vs Fx, i think she is less likely to go along with a decision if she doesnt feel right about it, even if its logically correct.

takamaki ann

for ann, i dont think her being an enfp would be wildly incorrect, i just want to explain the reasoning behind her weaknesses. unfocused, disorganized, restless, all come from the rather callous and laid-back attitude she initially has towards modelling. not wanting to be an expert in a hobby is perfectly fine, but ann herself seems to be unsatisfied with her own attitude towards modelling after interacting with mika.

i would be hella surprised if anyone read this, if anyone does, its much appreciated <3

[tigreblvnc]

Okay so I’ve looked into cognitive functions (specifically jungian typology and socionics) and I think I might know why I don’t exactly fit into the mbti type.

Here’s what I found based on some personal observations/investigations and tests of it:

dom: Ti

aux: Ni

tert: Si

inf: Fi

So basically, all of my functions have an introverted attitude which is kinda insane. This makes it practically impossible to match my cognitive functions to any standard mbti (compared to the typical extroverted aux and inf) or any standard socionics types.

In socionics, the most roughly corresponding one was is ILI (Ni-Ti-Se-Fe) - which is loosely equivalent to INTJ in mbti. Other close ones were LII (INTP, Ti-Ne-Si-Fe), SLI(ISTP, Ti-Se-Ni-Fe), LSI(ISTJ, Si-Te-Fi-Ne). But none of these actually match my exact cognitive stack.

I don’t know if something went wrong during my study or I was misguided because usually, it’s theoretically possible to have all introverted attitudes it is also extremely rare. Jungian psychology and MBTI assume that people need a balance between interacting with the external world (extraversion) and processing their internal world (introversion) so having only one attitude disrupts this balance - this means I’m very cognitively imbalanced and atypical from a jungian point of view (which is true to be fair, from my neurological context).

What are your thoughts on this?

In general, I don't recommend studying two different models at the same time, as you'll likely be tempted to find exact correspondences between them. You can't, because the models are constructed differently. It's similar to learning two languages at once, even if they share the same roots; each has evolved differently, and mixing them could lead to confusion with the specific features of each.

From your questions, I assume you're new to MBTI. So, I suggest setting socionics aside for now and studying it only after you’ve mastered MBTI on its own. Once you’re comfortable with MBTI, you’ll be better able to make proper distinctions between the two. Remember that while these models can complement each other, they aren't directly comparable or designed to offer exact type translations. For example, the INTJ in the MBTI isn't exactly the INTj in socionics, and vice versa.

That being said. Regarding your results, I think it's safe to lean toward an introverted type. When you take a test, you may not be entirely objective and might focus on specific moments in your life rather than looking at the bigger picture. This means you could, consciously or not, select memorable instances you went through, instead of reflecting on your general way of functioning over your whole life. That's why asking people who know you well can be more helpful than relying solely on self-assessment.

In conclusion: I advise you to read each MBTI type carefully and proceed by elimination. Rule out those that you are sure do not match you. When you have the remaining profiles: use cognitive functions to find your two dominants.

Related answer:

Can one have 3 different MBTIs at the same time?

[valentine-cafe]

. ˚◞♡ 𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒓𝒂 209 — mutant-monster mad scientist◞ ₊˚

⊹ ۪ ࣪ ᥫ᭡ “ eyes on me, mi cielo. . . those pretty eyes are just for me, huh? all mine. even when you have long since passed, I shall hold your heart within my hands ” ꒱

. ˚◞꒰verse꒱ 209

. ˚◞꒰face claim refs꒱ ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x )

. ˚◞꒰species꒱ spider, mantis and moth mutate 

. ˚◞꒰ethnicity꒱ mexican-indian ( awadhi-tamil )

. ˚◞꒰age꒱ 38

. ˚◞꒰gender꒱ typically genderfluid but male-presenting ( sometimes works on the way people perceive him on different days )

. ˚◞꒰mbti꒱ istj

. ˚◞꒰aliases꒱ red widow ( heroes ), the mad scientist ( the resistance ), the lunatic ( the resistance ), the scarlet plague ( mutants/resistance )

. ˚◞꒰appearance꒱

𖹭. maroon eyes, with slitted pupils ( wears contacts to hide his pupils ). typically uses winged eyeliner and sometimes red eyeshadow. he can have multiple pairs of eyes if his mutation is showing; his sclera and pupils might disappear completely in this case

𖹭. mid-length, layered, fluffy and slightly curly very dark brown hair that trickles down his shoulders

𖹭. very androgynous face, with sharp and soft features combined. has a bronze skin tone

𖹭. slender physique, stands at the height of 6’2” ( 187cm ). can appear a bit feminine

𖹭. typically dresses in reds and blacks. ranging from a classy style that can bleed into vintage. very genderfluid in his way of dressing

𖹭. beauty spots: scattered on the right side of his face with one at the left corner of his lips

𖹭. lips usually painted shades of red depending on his mood

𖹭. retractable fangs with venom and claws

𖹭. elongated tongue

𖹭. fingers/hands covered with rings and chains, with long, red painted fingernails

𖹭. ear piercings: a pair of standard lobe and industrial piercings — his right ear dons a transverse lobe, rook, orbital and snug piercing while his left ear holds a daith, stacked helix and forward helix piercing.

𖹭. piercings: venom tongue piercings, septum piercing and nose ring, nipple piercings, navel piercing

𖹭. can extend strong, flexible, scarlet and black tendrils from his back and arms

𖹭. four spider legs that tear out of his back but he can retract

𖹭. overall, if his mutation is having a bad day or he is going feral, he may display spider features such as multiple eyes, pincers, mouth glands that can secrete acid and so on

. ˚◞꒰personality꒱

𖹭. oh so deceptive, in his smile, his voice and overall appearance. charming, sickeningly sweet with a faux amiability

𖹭. even when he is hands-deep into an experiment, he keeps false kindness and friendly façade. gives off an eerie vibe to those with a good intuition

𖹭. morally evil with a chilling lack of ethics. extremely cunning and two-faced

𖹭. silver-tongued and charismatic

𖹭. so effortless on everything that he does, exuding a cool confidence

𖹭. intelligent and quick-witted. loves playing mind games on people and getting into their psyche

𖹭. certain that whatever he is doing is for the betterment of humanity, beyond self-righteous

𖹭. quite stubborn and makes sure to see his projects through, as a result has a tendency of overworking

𖹭. may appear serene but is quite temperamental, displays his anger and bitterness in a scarily calm way with a charming smile and smooth words in spite of his horrific actions

𖹭. yandere esque

. ˚◞꒰with a lover꒱

𖹭. that charming personality does not fade with a lover, rishen is often quite flirty and all sorts of teasing with his beloved.

𖹭. loves flustering you — it is a part of his favorite pass-times. fluster you and then grab you by the waist, only to tease you further.

𖹭. affection is mainly displayed in a physical manner. he will touch anything and everything on you that you allow him to touch and kiss, all so that he can worship you and make you feel good.

𖹭. another form of his affection is through gifts. he adores spoiling you with a wide variety of whatever it is you either need or want.

𖹭. very verbal in his love for you and shameless in every way; his tongue holds no filter.

𖹭. late night dances in his office, bringing you coffees or teas through the day, and finding you in the middle of the day simply to pour his affection out on you.

𖹭. he is a very passionate and dedicated lover — however, there is a darker side to it. rishen grows obsessive and quite possessive, his nature that of a yandere.

𖹭. and yes he takes it to the extremes. . .

𖹭. should someone merely look at you in a way he deems wrong, it is their funeral.

𖹭. do not fight him on this, he’ll lock you away for his eyes only.

. ˚◞꒰strengths꒱

𖹭. intelligence: highly intelligent from a young age, resulting in advanced, prodigal level of skill in science and technological fields.

𖹭. increased bodily function: advanced strength, speed, agility and durability.

𖹭. heightened senses: advanced sight, smell, hearing, taste and awareness of surroundings.

𖹭. healing factor: an average healing factor that heals his injuries far quicker than an average human

𖹭. tendrils: strong, resilient, red and black tendril-like appendages that can be produced from his back and extend from his hands

𖹭. spider legs: large spider legs that tear through his back at times, it is extremely painful for him but are very useful in combat.

𖹭. fangs & claws: retractable fangs that secrete paralyzing venom at will along with retractable claws from the pads of his fingers that can tear through a variety of materials.

. ˚◞꒰weaknesses꒱

𖹭. mutation: his mutation as a whole, while it does grant him a wide variety of abilities is also his greatest weakness.

𖹭. metabolism: has an extremely fast metabolism that requires him eating a lot through the day.

𖹭. abandonment issues: he suffers from horrible abandonment issues, which can cause him to get erratic and panicked whenever someone he loves does leave him on purpose after arguments, tiffs, etc.

𖹭. heart condition: suffers from a heart condition that requires him taking medication in order to make sure his heart stays stable.

𖹭. stabilisers: in order to control his mutation, he is required to inject himself with stabilisers on an alternating daily basis.

. ˚◞꒰relationships꒱

𖹭. jìngyí herrera: husband, best friend, business partner

𖹭. javier herrera: father, deceased

𖹭. rishima singhania: mother, deceased

𖹭. alessio agresta arias: best friend, deceased

𖹭. wèi lìxuě: enemey

𖹭. liú tàishī: enemy

𖹭. zhào haitāo: enemy

𖹭. lorenzo agresta arias: enemy

𖹭. park tae-hyun: enemy

. ˚◞꒰story꒱

after undergoing experimentation, rishen emerges with a spider mutation and a hatred for his fellow enigma. inheriting the mega science company, valence, after his father’s sudden death, he aims to lead the world with knowledge and science. while also working his way to top as a seemingly benevolent businessman and world renowned scientist.

behind the scenes is where the mask falls. rishen has no issue with the mass experimentation on the enigma. being a driving factor of the enigma genocide across his world.

alongside his mad doctor partner in crime and husband, jingyi herrera, the two become an unstoppable and dangerous couple. committing atrocities and puppetting world order behind the scenes. deeming the control of enigma necessary in their self-righteous mission.

. ˚◞꒰extra꒱

𖹭. he is the ceo of valence and practically runs the city of nueva york

𖹭. speaks spanish ( latin american ), speaks mandarin, speaks hindi, speaks tamil.

𖹭. he knows asl.

𖹭. has a cat named Beatrice Herrera Reina the 2nd queen of the abyssal dread. ( his and his husband’s “daughter” )

𖹭. he has four dobbermen: cupcake, cinnamon bun, horchata, strawberry

𖹭. he sometimes smokes

[mbti-notes]

Hello, INTP here. I’m learning stack dynamics and want to improve my judgment. Is there a correlation between personal growth and success in life? Like if one steps out of their comfort zone and faces up to their fears, but it brings them difficult times in life and struggling to fulfill basic human needs. For example, an ISTJ having a solid career started to see the low moral values in the system and finally decides to quit to meet Fi needs. However, their life quality goes down.

You haven't explained the purpose of your question or defined what you mean exactly by "success". Not everything that appears positive/negative is actually so. Life doesn't abide by simple formulas. Living life well is challenging but also exciting because, a lot of the time, you really don't know how things will shake out in the end. This is why faith and trust are also important for personal growth.

[that-frozen-queen]

Oh thats interesting I always thought their types fit them well, but ofc I ve only done some brief reading about it.

What would you type them as, now I am curious👀?

To be fair, had I not gone through a phase, and I just knew MBTI from like, 16 personalities or something, I would probably think the same! However, I unfortunately went through a phase, and learned about cognitive functions and stuff, so given that, I disagree with their typings.

Also, contrary to popular belief, typing characters is subjective, because we each interpret characters differently. So you are welcome to disagree with my typings, in fact a lot of you probably will.

Now to start:

Elsa

Elsa, I think is a little hard to place, because of her isolation in the first movie, but between both movies, I think she is definitely an ISTJ, especially after taking cognitive functions into account.

Now, people are often hesitant in typing Elsa as ISTJ, because of the stereotypes associated with it- that they’re unemotional, stone cold etc. Which is simply not true- ISTJs are some of the sweetest people I’ve ever met.

But again, as far as cognitive functions go, Elsa fits ISTJ much better than she fits INFJ- even when it comes to the weaker functions.

First, an introductory to intuitive and sensing cognitive functions:

Ni (Introverted Intuition): Zooms in on one idea

Ne (Extroverted Intuition): Focuses on many ideas.

Si (Introverted Sensation): evaluates experience against curated memories.

Se (Extroverted Sensing): Focuses on experience as it unfolds

These are very watered down definitions, but I am tried to avoid giving you a crash course on cognitive functions and how they work because this is already going to be a very long post.

INFJs strongest functions are Ni & Fe, which in my opinion… she is lacking in both, especially Fe (we will get into thinking and feeling functions in a moment).

I do think a case could be made for her being Ni, and I can also see her being an INTJ. However, I think as far as decisions she’s made, she looks to the past or present to make decisions, rather than the abstract or future.

Even at Elsa’s healthiest, the unknown excites her, but she is very hesitant in leaving behind what she knows. I always interpreted Into the Unknown as her dominant Si and inferior Ne conflicting with each other.

She never exactly zooms into one idea. When she is able to use her intuition freely, she is open to many possibilities, and is influenced by the past. Throughout her journey, in both movies, she is constantly equating current events to things that happened to her in the past.

So that is why I personally see her as Si vs Ni.

Now onto feeling and thinking portion:

Fi (Introverted Feeling): Prioritizes individual values / emotions

Fe (Extroverted Feeling): Prioritizes group values / emotions

Ti (Introverted Thinking): Subjective logic.

Te (Extroverted Thinking): Objective logic

Now, a case could also be made for Elsa having Ti somewhere in her stack. However, again, the logic she follows, whether flawed or not, has been presented to her from an outside source. Elsa has no subjective opinion when it comes to her logic, she goes by what she is told.

As for Fe vs Fi, I do think she has no Fe whatsoever, but I do understand where people are coming from when they say she does. Because again, the way anything online, even the definition I gave, a lot of people misinterpret it into meaning:

Fi is selfish and Fe is selfless, and that is not even close to being the case.

Fi users can be selfless if they have selfless personal values and Fe users can be selfish if group values are generally selfish… if that makes sense.

The thing however, is that everything we see of Elsa, every decision she makes can be traced back to personal values. The act of isolating herself from her sister to protect them are selfless acts… but they also come from her valuing her sister and her kingdom. It never comes from the kingdom’s values.

Even in Frozen 2, her own personal desires and values are what drives her motivations. She often doesn’t take into account the fears of others when it comes to making her decisions.

Overall, I just don’t see her as having an Ni-Fe-Ti-Se (INFJ) stack. Si-Te-Fi-Ne just seems to fit her better.

Anna

Now, Anna I have a bit more of a controversial take. A lot of people don’t see her as ENFP, but most people who argue against that type argue for ESFP… but I really don’t see that either. At least not after Frozen 2.

No, her personality type for me, is ESFJ.

She isn’t a mind reader, she doesn’t always know how everyone is feeling, but her emotions are also directly impacted by everyone else’s emotions. Even when she does explore her own feelings, she almost always pushed them aside to understand others emotions.

In Frozen, her anger at Elsa is almost immediately dispersed when Elsa’s situation is revealed, then she focuses on Elsa’s. In Frozen 2, she does have her own fears, but she almost always acknowledges Elsa’s feelings before explaining her own emotions.

Not only that, Anna, just like Elsa, is also very hesitant to change, arguably more so. The only reason she is so eager for things to change in the first movie was because she was lonely.

Not only that, but her logic, especially in the first movie is very subjective, and based on things she has seen or noticed in the past. Her ideas of true love aren’t influenced by an objective source, from what we can see.

So I guess I can understand where the exfp type is coming from, but I personally don’t see it.