#im fucking tired of this shit
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birdiebirdjay · 4 hours ago
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YES!!!
(i'm highkey gonna be raging under the cut, i'm sorry to anyone who enjoys my normally positive manner :[)
Genuinely, I don't care what people say. Neville was an irresponsible, ridiculous, idiot. He leaves his 'beloved pet' around random places and loses him constantly, is cowardly and incompetent for the most part, and is the most forgetful person in the series that I can recall. See, this wouldn't really be a problem, except for the fact that he endangers other people frequently because of these flaws. For fucks sake he left a list of all the passwords to the Gryffindor dorms WITH A MASS MURDERER ON THE LOOSE!
Even the everyday things he does that are supposed to be regarded as funny or comedic relief are horrifying. Potions was an incredibly difficult subject, but Snape was an incredibly competent teacher (completely tossing the textbook out the window and teaching the subject properly). Neville was still out here creating the magical equivalent of pipe bombs! What would have happened if one of his fucked up potions blew up a cauldron and permanently incapacitated someone? (Actually, something pretty close happens in canon; the damage isn't permanent, but what if it had been? Thank god he never made it to N.E.W.T.s: "Neville had somehow managed to melt Seamus’s cauldron into a twisted blob, and their potion was seeping across the stone floor, burning holes in people’s shoes. Within seconds, the whole class was standing on their stools while Neville, who had been drenched in the potion when the cauldron collapsed, moaned in pain as angry red boils sprang up all over his arms and legs.") I don't know about you guys but I swear to god if this kid was in my class I would have fucking lost it.
Maybe I just think this because I'm Asian but the teachers were completely correct to chastise him for his incompetency. It was not their responsibility to coddle him or 'accommodate' his stupidity. He can clearly get shit done when Hermione is secretly whispering instructions to him, so why can't he copy the instructions that are written perfectly clearly on the board? What the fuck is happening during his normal working time? Is he just purposefully fucking everything up? It would have been completely different if even Hermione couldn't save him, but for god's sake, he is clearly at least capable of brewing a potion!
Draco Malfoy was turned into a small animal and bashed against a cobblestone floor multiple times! Do you see anyone crying about how he was traumatized and abused by a teacher/death eater in disguise? No! You see people glorifying said death eater and declaring it canon that he's secretly cute and gay and punk or whatever. Snape never physically abused OR abused Neville at all, actually, he was a rightfully strict teacher fed up with this kid's idiocy. He's not even the only teacher to lose it over him! McGonagall does it as well! Neville is just an absolute idiot, and it's tiring as fuck seeing people defend him!
You know what, fuck Neville Longbottom.
He was NEVER supposed to be a sympathetic character! He's very clearly a character written to be made fun of for being ridiculous! Him being so scared of everything isn't an endearing character trait designed to evoke sympathy and understanding, it's a FLAW that's meant to make you wanna shake him and yell at him to get a fucking grip!
I grew up reading boarding school books, specifically the Enid Blyton ones, which I believe almost every single British child has read. The school stories are mostly traditionally girls' books, and they all have very similar character tropes and themes, some of which are shared with Harry Potter, which is a boarding school story. There's always at least one jokester, such as Alicia in Malory Towers. She's brilliant, intelligent, but she's rather unkind and thoughtless, and always pulls pranks, or rather tricks, on people, especially the one french teacher. She's exactly like Fred and George, practical jokers who are popular and well liked but not always very kind and don't always consider the outcome of their pranks. There's always an incredibly strict teacher the girls don't dare play funny with. In the third book there's this one teacher I cannot recall the name for, but she, I believe, is considered mean and strict and awful up until the end where it turns out she's actually got a good heart. She's not the level of pantomime meanness as Snape is, (perhaps because she's not a male teacher and also not teaching the kids something that could kill them all), but she's a similar trope.
Actually, Snape reminds of the teachers from the old Beano comic, overly strict and mean, but when you consider the shit those kids put them through you can kinda understand why. But ultimately, Snape is a classic children's trope: the mean strict teacher who actually deep inside would take care of the students.
Neville? He's ALSO a trope! The ridiculous coward!
Going back to Malory Towers, there's Mary-Lou. She's a very cowardly, nervous girl (and a sweetheart, but a scaredy cat nonetheless). And that's a FLAW. NOBODY SYMPATHISES WITH HER BECAUSE WHAT SHE'S AFRAID OF IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF! They at best pity her because it's a miserable way to live, but they don't support her for it. There are multiple full plots where the aim is her having to do something scary to get her to shake off this cowardliness, at least one outright organised by another character in an attempt to show her she can be brave.
Scaredy Cat characters in British children's media, especially in these school stories, are never scaredy cats to be sympathised with. They're there as a sort of comedic relief or to make things interesting, and are often considered a nuisance, the way Neville is! In the first book there's a very classic "you need to learn to stand up for yourself" piece involving Neville. Which he does!
People seem to be projecting all sorts of trauma onto Neville. Especially regarding Snape. There seems to be, in this current time, an attitude that him being a coward is something other people need to be accommodating for, and that he's a victim, especially regarding Snape. Neville is not a victim. He's not supposed to be accommodated for, especially in the climate he's living in. He exists as a comic character, and clearly to be a bit ironic as he's a coward in the house of courage. But regardless, his cowardice is not the result of trauma no matter how much people project it onto him and blame Snape for it.
Neville's cowardice is a flaw. It makes him ridiculous. He's afraid of absolutely nothing important at all. He's afraid of a teacher? That's absolutely stupid! Everyone laughs at him. Even he's aware that this is something stupid to be afraid of. He's more afraid of his grandmother, to the point that he didn't mention her because he was that afraid of her being his boggart. It just happened Lupin used the grandma, unaware of the situation, as an idea of how to make the boggart look ridiculous. So it makes me mad that people use the boggart scene as proof that Snape traumatised Neville. Neville is not traumatised. He's just an idiot.
Yes, I've gone there and I'm staying there. He is an idiot. He's frightened of stupid things. He keeps fucking up basic potions, basic spells, everything, to the point that McGonagall forbade him from doing anything in front of the visiting schools because he's that bad at everything. Can he help it?
Yes. He can help it. Instead of being a coward and crying about it, he can just as easily be confident, own up to it, and be more bold in trying to be better. His cowardly nature is what makes people lose respect for him. Something that makes sense considering the setting of the story!
Neville's arc is him growing up and getting confidence by going through difficulties and rising to meet them, not by other people gently helping him through his nonsense (and it is nonsense). That's not how things work in the setting of Hogwarts at all. In the setting and culture of Hogwarts, there's no gentle helping, it's "pull yourself together!". That's exactly the attitude everyone gives Neville, from the students to the teachers.
Neville's cowardice is ridiculous. It's as much of a flaw as Draco's arrogance, Snape's unpleasantness, McGonagall's competitiveness, and so on. He is not meant to be babied for it, or called "traumatised", he's meant to be scolded and shaken until he gets some sense knocked into him.
Snape's approach to Neville is exactly what you'd expect in this context. Maybe another teacher would have less of an unpleasant attitude about it, but in the end they WILL lose patience with him because all he's doing is not learning and trying to make him learn the same thing everyone else learnt last week is going to waste everyone's time. It makes zero sense to spend time trying to get one child to understand a basic concept that everyone else understood ages ago instead of moving with the curriculum. Snape is naturally mad at Neville for messing up the clear instructions that are right there on the board. He's rightfully mad about it. He's rightfully mad that Neville won't learn. He's rightfully mad that Neville's putting them in danger. Yes, he's got an unpleasant attitude, but he's right to be mad. He's also right to use Trevor to make Neville learn. People make it seem like he wanted to poison Neville to upset him. No. He was raising the stakes for Neville so that the love Neville had for his toad would force Neville to get his act together! Which is exactly what I'd expect from a teacher in this context dealing with a student like Neville! Fuck that, that's exactly what I would have done if I'd have had to deal with this idiot for multiple years and he still fucks up the simplest and clearest instructions. If Snape wanted Trevor hurt, he simply wouldn't have restored Trevor to his original state and killed him.
And lastly, not every unpleasant experience is a traumatic experience. One single unpleasant teacher is not going to traumatise Neville or anyone else! It's just a part of life. What, do you want everyone to be nice and coddle these kids so when they leave the safety of Hogwarts they aren't equipped to deal with people who are unpleasant? People love to project and find trauma in every unpleasant situation (for fucks sake they say DUMBLEDORE traumatised Tom when in reality Tom's a sulky baby who's mad that Dumbledore did not fawn over him like everyone else and actually called out his shit) but not every unpleasant situation is a traumatic situation!
And you know what, fuck it but some people have to go through a traumatic event to learn a fucking lesson. Dudley abused his cousin. Being "traumatised", or rather punished for his actions by being turned into a pig is what he deserved/needed, and even then did that stop him tormenting Harry? No! Draco being turned into a ferret? Yes, traumatising, but he's also a bully who needed to be taken down a peg! Neville being "traumatised" by Snape? Good! It may kick the cowardice out of him and make him a bit more cautious about dangerous potions!
Trauma is Snape being bullied by the Marauders for no reason, being abused by his father. Trauma is Harry being abused by the Dursleys. Trauma is what Ginny went through in her first year. Trauma is Neville having to see his parents there but not there when visiting them.
Trauma is NOT dealing with an unpleasant teacher.
Especially when you look at the context of when Harry Potter was written and where Hogwarts is set.
And Neville's cowardice isn't cute or endearing or something to baby, it's a fucking flaw that needs to be dealt with sternly.
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sevikasenby · 1 year ago
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why do minors think they’re so fucking entitled to be in adult spaces. like y’all need to learn some goddamn respect.
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jojotichakorn · 2 years ago
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yeah im still not back, but i knew people would be talking shit as usual, so just popping in to remind everyone that a parent not wanting their child to be queer because "the world will be cruel to them" is fucking bullshit, and apart from everything else is a fairly common trope for parents of queer kids in media that shows how NOT to fucking react
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transbeeduo · 10 months ago
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STOP DISCOURSING MATPAT IN MY NOTES STILL
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I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself I am estranged from myself.
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ohposhers · 11 months ago
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i want floyd to get high at a rock concert and start a fight in the moshpit
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deadtotheworld597 · 6 months ago
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I be checking my phone like I mean something to someone
😂silly fucking me 😂
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hussyknee · 1 year ago
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Your "non-confrontational" choices not to communicate hurt the people you don't confront btw. You're not a martyr for keeping everything inside and then running away when other people don't know what's going on with you. You just decided avoiding rejection and sparing your own feelings was easier than being honest and giving them the agency to respond and make their own decisions. You chose to hurt them so they didn't hurt you. You think your feelings are realer and more important than their own care and love for you. You were always just waiting for a sign to run.
"If they cared about me they would have–" did you tell them that? Did you let them know how you feel? How much importance you place on those requirements they don't know they have to meet? This secret criteria and secret signs for your secret feelings? Or are you making them play a game they don't know even exists?
Your choice not to communicate isn't cute. You didn't run because they didn't feel the same for you. You ran so you wouldn't have to risk rejection. You chose to prioritise your own self-protection over their trust in and love for you. At least own that.
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rotting-bitch · 4 months ago
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try to be gentle while tearing me apart
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umblrspectrum · 6 months ago
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i got lazy in the second panel and didnt feel like coloring or whatever bite me
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sforzesco · 1 year ago
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something. about. the horror of being sent on an impossible (death) quest and obligations and hospitality politics. the trauma of not having a home, and then the trauma of being in a house that becomes actively hostile to you, one that would swallow you whole and spit out your bones if you step out of line. all of this is conditional, your existence continues to be something men want gone.
it's about going back as far as I can with the perseus narrative because there's always a version of a myth that exists behind the one that survives. the missing pieces are clearly defined, but the oldest recorded version of it isn't there! and there's probably something older before that!! but it's doomed to forever be an unfilled space, clearly defined by an outline of something that was there and continues to be there in it's absence.
and love. it's also about love. even when you had nothing, you had love.
on the opposite side of the spectrum, this is Not About Ovid Or Roman-Renaissance Reception, Depictions And Discourses On The Perseus Narrative.
edit: to add to the above, while it's not about Ovid, because I'm specifically trying to peel things back to the oldest version of this story, Ovid is fine. alterations on the Perseus myth that give more attention Medusa predate Ovid by several centuries. this comic is also not about those, either! there are many versions of this story from the ancient world. there is not one singular True or Better version, they're all saying something.
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Perseus, Daniel Ogden
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Anthology of Classical Myth: Primary Sources in Translation, edited & translated by Stephen M Trzaskoma, R. Scott Smith, Stephen Brunet
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necroticghost · 1 year ago
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why the fuck am I the way I am
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brokenxheart · 4 months ago
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If they only knew....
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quirkle2 · 11 months ago
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a little bit crazy
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vinestaff · 1 month ago
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i see
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cynicallyneutral · 4 months ago
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「coward」
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