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so i’ve been thinking... here’s some snippets for arrowverse!jason that i’ve been craving.
please don’t steal my work and/or put it on other platforms w/o my permission this will result in a block + report.
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Jason knows something is wrong the moment Talia does not pick up the phone. He suspected something was up when he did not get a call as soon as he left All-Caste. And that makes him pause just long enough to see the news. He is not really concentrating on grainy and shaky footage of ruins of Starling City, no. His attention focuses on the caption below that has absolutely nothing to do with whatever happened in the city.
‘Gotham’s city billionaire Bruce Wayne has been missing for over two years. GCPD refuse to give any comments.’
His blood runs cold.
It cannot be true. It... It is just some weird plan. A ploy to lull rouges into false sense of security, so it will be easy to catch them at once and throw back to prisons that are just as efficient as paper towels against the flood.
Talia does not pick up the phone. Twice. In a row.
Jason calls the manor. Alfred. Alfred is going to answer and he will know it is just a fake piece of news.
No one answers.
He calls again.
And again.
And again.
The sense of dread is so overwhelming it even dulls the burning hungry feeling of bloodlust that has been nagging him ever since he came back. And Jason can think without the constant desire to take someone’s life for the first time in almost four years.
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Gotham is still a shithole. But not that kind that has paranoid old bastard in a furry batsuit as her vengeful protector. The kind that has been stewing for far too long without any supervision.
The manor is... For Jason it has always looked empty, no matter what Alfred tried to do. But now. Now it is truly abandoned. Jason can feel chills running down his spine. The flames of his soul that make All-Blades are the only thing that keeps him from shivering in his All-Caste uniform. Everything inside is covered in dust.
The cave is dark. It is silent. Jason realises there are no bats here when he switches on the lights. He looks around. Nothing is out of the place or broken. Everything is just the same as it has been when he wore stupid traffic light costume. The one that... His gaze falls onto the glass case with it torn and bloody inside and right above it is a golden plaque with ‘In Memory of Jason Todd — Robin — A Good Soldier’.
Of fucking course.
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Jason sits on his favourite roof with his gargoyle friend, fidgeting with the phone. Gotham’s sky is still as smoggy at night as he remembers it to be.
He calls Barbara’s old phone number. It disconnects. He tries calling the last known one, the one from Bruce’s database. It does as well.
He calls Dick, muscle memory typing in the number Jason used that day four years ago before going to Ethiopia. It goes to the voicemail. Fucking again. Jason shakes himself out of the flashback.
Why did the call come through? Dick has new number now.
He calls his new one, hoping the rumors he has heard about some crazy guy in black costume with blue bird on his chest are true and not just a ghost stories. It disconnects.
No.
Fuck.
No, no, no.
Without any hesitation Jason types in the emergency number, the one Bruce has said to only use when there was no other option. The call goes to the voicemail.
Jason stands up, walking away from his gargoyle, and punches the brick wall of the roof entrance.
“What the fuck!” He yells, wishing for all this to just be a nightmare. Jason even promises to himself he will throw away his stupid revenge plan and go back to the manor, to Alfred, to Bruce, to his dad. It was an idiotic plan, he knows, he fucking knows, why is not he waking up?
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Commissioner Gordon lights up Bat Signal every night. And every night no one answers.
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“Was I really just a soldier to you, Bruce?” Jason is in the cave again. He cannot stop going here, cannot stop torturing himself, cannot stop staring at his old Robin uniform and at the empty mannequin near the changing area.
No one answers him.
It is already a pattern he has grown familiar with.
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He cleans the manor. All of it. Until it fucking sparkles.
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Jason is walking through Crime Alley when he hears a whistle. Not the Robin kind. But the one some of the gangs used when he was a kid.
Actually, he tilts his head to the side, there was only one asshole who preferred it more than anything else.
Another whistle. This one is shorter.
Seems like Black Mask decided to expand his business.
Whatever.
It is not his problem. Jason needs to find Bruce. Or at least find out if Dick is in New York or not. If someone stole Bluebird from his brother and if yes who is he killing.
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Joker escapes Arkham.
Gotham is ghost city for the next three days. No one even dares to open the curtains. Then there is a live broadcast with a teen dressed in a cheap Halloween Robin costume tied to a chair. She has blonde hair and looks so tiny Jason thinks she must be twelve, but then Joker gleefully tells:
“This little birdie here is just as old as the last one I killed! What a day it was! Magnificent! My dear friend was on a roll beating that brat for not having any manners with me! How sad she can’t join us today and that we have to play with dollar version of the real deal, who doesn’t even know how to fly, but don't ya worry folks, we’ll still clip her wings!” Joker is holding a crowbar.
Joker is holding a crowbar ready to strike Robin.
‘The party’s just got started.’
Joker is holding a crowbar ready to strike a kid.
‘...this is going to hurt you a lot more than it does me.’
Joker is holding a crowbar ready to kill a kid in Robin colors.
‘What the Batman doesn't know can't hurt me!’
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Batman may not know but Jason does. He does and he is in his All-Caste uniform. He does and he is no Batman. He does and he has absolutely no moral code when it comes to shutting down the livestream and beating Joker to death with the crowbar that has child’s blood on it.
Jason stabs him with the All-Blades, burning Joker’s soul with magic he is yet to fully grasp just so no one ever will be able to bring this fucker back.
“Fuck..ing... end h...him,” the girl’s voice is barely audible amongst the sickening crunch of bones being methodically broken and screeches of bloodlust in his head.
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Jason goes on his first patrol four months after he moved back to Gotham. He is not wearing Robin uniform or even Bruce’s classic Batman costume. He has bright red bat on his chest; it is the exact shade as the one that has been used in his Robin costume. Scarlet muzzle and domino mask of the same color connected to it. He added a hood to the cape after some thinking.
He does not have guns on him. But he hides small daggers, a lot of them actually, while batarangs are safely tucked in the utility belt.
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“You aren’t Batman.”
“Kid, be careful with the bo, I’m not gonna fight you,” Jason raises his hands, standing in front of the Batmobile, — can it even be call that now? — he cannot really get inside because the kid with quite expensive looking bo is blocking the door to the driver’s sit.
The kid hits him on the head with the metal bo. Then he squeaks, realizing who exactly he has just hit. And yet Jason can see he has not lost determined look in his eyes, even though he is clearly terrified.
Jason laughs. His head hurts.
“Are you hungry?” He is going to buy this scrawny teenager a burger.
Fuck. He even has black hair and blue eyes.
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“No.”
“But—”
“I said ‘no’, Tim.”
“You were Robin when you were my age!”
“How'd—” Jason looks at the kid, teenager, closer. “You're that stalker kid obsessed with first Robin. I even bought you a milkshake and you said I still wasn’t your favourite,” Tim’s face goes bright red, he tries to hide behind his burger. “You know who I am under the mask.”
“I figured,” Tim says in a small voice. “You were Robin.”
“And I died, Tim, I’m not going to let you—”
“I’ll help you find Mr. Wayne! And... And I almost found out where Mr. Grayson lives in New York!”
Jason chokes.
“Dick’s alive?..”
Tim lowers his gaze, taking a large bite.
“I think. There is Bluebird in New York for sure. But I’m not certain if it is your brother.”
“Where are your parents, kid?” Jason sighs.
“In Egypt, they'll be back in two months for three days.”
“The fuck?”
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“You should answer Bat Signal.”
“You should go to sleep, it’s past your bed time.”
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“Jason.”
“No, Tim.”
“Just... Just teach me how to defend myself?”
Jason rolls away from the Bat computer, staring intently on Tim who is holding his collapsible bo in hands.
“You’re telling me you’ve got no idea how to actually use it?”
“Um. I know. In theory. And I took self-defense classes! I just haven’t really used bo before.”
“Oh, for fuck’s sake,” Jason stands up, going to the training area. “C’mon, kid.”
“Not a kid.”
“Uh-huh.”
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“Are you going to answer Bat Signal?” Tim asks in his comms.
“Yeah. Yeah, I am.”
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“Why the fuck they call me Red Bat?”
“Are you dump or really don’t know?” Tim pointedly looks at the emblem on the chest of his costume.
“Oh, shut it, you know that rumors about Batman shouldn’t change or—”
“—or people would realize story isn’t a hoax,” Tim ponders it for a second. “You think, it'll be bad? If people knew you were real? Gotham is different. But Starling is shitty and they know Arrow or whatever that guy calls himself is real.”
“You said it yourself, Timmy, Gotham’s different,” Jason runs a hand through his hair. “And Oliver Queen has some agenda on top of whatever’s going on between him and the league. I’m just trying to protect Gotham as best as I can,” he knows there is bitterness in his voice, but he cannot do anything about it.
“Found out who he is?”
“Please, as if it was hard.”
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“I’m skipping patrol,” Jason declares.
“What? Why?”
“Because I’m teaching you how to make cookies and after that we’re watching movies.”
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“It was you. You killed Joker.”
Jason stops on the rooftop, all his attention is focused on Tim’s words.
“I thought you knew?”
There is silence.
“I... you... Batman doesn’t kill.”
Don’t I fucking know that.
“I wasn’t Batman. And I wasn’t gonna let that fucker go after what he did to Stephanie,” the girl’s name feels heavy on his tongue, he was almost too late to save her, he was too late to save the child she was carrying.
“Do you... Are you still?..”
“I’m not gonna kill while you're in my ears, kid.”
“Not a kid, Red.”
“Then choose a codename if you insisting on bothering me throughout the night.”
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“My parents had to leave earlier can I stay at the manor? It’ll be more effici—”
“Get inside, I’m rewatching ‘Home alone’.”
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“Red Bat, stop!” Tim’s voice brakes the blissful haze that bloodlust always cocoons him in. “Red, you need to stop please! You’ll kill him, you... You promised not to—”
“Where’s GCPD?” Jason zip-ties the pimp he has almost beaten to death; it reminds him of the day. The day Batman decided he became too aggressive to be Robin.
“ETA two minutes,” in a slightly shaky tone Tim informs him.
Jason leaves the guy on the ground, finding an access to the roof.
He breathes in cold winter air, stinking of something distinctly Gotham. It grounds him.
“I’m sorry, kid,” finally says Jason.
“You were dumped in Lazarus waters, weren’t you?”
And Jason wants to use it as an excuse. To pretend he has not killed by his own choice. To assure Tim he is not truly a monster who kills because he wishes to do so, but because he came back fucked up.
But it will be a lie, will it not?
His silence is the only answer Tim gets.
“I thought it is impossible to snap out of the—” there is typing on the Tim’s end, “—bloodlust.”
“Ra’s not a mindless monster high on it all the time,” Jason points out.
“You know what I mean. You were as you said ‘high’ and you stopped.”
Jason chuckles. He wants to laugh, loud and hysterical.
“Go dress in your pjs, we’re watching ‘Pride & Prejudice’,” he tells Tim.
“Not again,” he groans in response.
“Yeah again.”
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Jason is still shivering, his heart beats in his throat, and everything is in the sickly tinge of yellow from Fear Gas. His white knuckle grip leaves dents on the table.
“Tim, why are you wearing Robin suit?”
“I—”
“I told you ‘no’.”
“Yo—”
“Many times, Tim,” Jason’s voice shakes, he does not know if it is from the lingering terror or from anger. “You could’ve died!” He shouts.
Tim’s gaze shines with steel determination, he squares his shoulders, his neon yellow on the inside cape flutters with the movement.
“You would have died! Again!” Tim screams in response. “I saved you! You can at fucking least say thank you, asshole!”
“Ti—”
“And just so you know. If you did die, I would go and wear this,” Tim jabs red bat on his chest, “and do all the reckless stupid things you stop me from doing!”
Jason sighs deep through his nose.
“Where did you get this costume?” It is not Dick’s or one of his. For starters it has actual pants.
“Remember you were wondering why you were spending more on other stuff for the last six months?” mumbles Tim, his face goes as red as the upper part of Robin’s suit. “And I am an heir to Drake estate.”
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“That’s so cool!” Tim, Robin, flies above Gotham’s dirty alleyways.
Jason, Red Bat, is right behind like a protective shadow.
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“They call me Red Robin,” Tim smirks, shoving Jason. “You started a trend, old man.”
“Hey, I’m not that old!”
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“Who the fuck are you?!” growls Bluebird, it is Dick, it is his big brother, shoving his escrima stick under his jaw with his fingers on the button, ready to zap him.
“I thought you were smarter, birdbrain!” Tim jumps from the shadows, distracting Dick with the neon yellow color of his cape just enough to throw one of his birdarangs at him. “I liked you more because of it!”
“Did you just call me stupid?!” Jason pushes Dick on the ground and takes off his face mask. “Hey, hey, Dickiebird, it’s me,” he smiles unsurely.
“Little Wing?.. Jay... Jason? Wha?.. How?”
His face gets scratched.
“What the fuck was it for?”
“You’re not Clayface.”
“Since when Clayface calls you ‘Dickiebird’, dickface?”
— end of the season one —
#jason todd#dc#batman#tim drake#robin#robin tim drake#red robin#red bat#red bat jason todd#he isn't red hood#arrowverse#dick grayson#bluebird#bluebird dick grayson#he isn't nightwing#no kryptonian to let him know about the name#dc universe#oliver queen#green arrow#bruce wayne#All-Blades Jason Todd
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I really love the concept of Tim hiding in small spaces randomly, and his family just completely accepting this as normal behavior.
Like,
Dick, mid conversation with Wally, grabs a cookie from his plate and reaches behind the couch, sticking his arm down there and pulls it up with no cookie. He doesn't falter once in his conversation.
Wally blinks in confusion a few times and then carefully asks, "Did you just... put a cookie behind the couch?"
Dick blinks as well. "Tim is behind there." He said like that should be obvious.
"What?! Dude, has he been listening to our conversation??"
"Nah, he's got his headphones on." Dick says dismissively.
Tim reaches his hand up and taps Dick on the shoulder to get his attention and then mimes writing. Dick hands him a pen.
"This happens all the time, doesn't it?" Wally asked, amused.
Dick snorts and nods. "Are you really surprised? I mean, I hang upside down when i need to think, Damian cuts things, Jason shoots things, Bruce broods. Tim hides."
Wally laughs. "Fair enough, man."
Or,
Mid Justice League meeting, Bruce looks under the desk he's at, grunts and motions to the side of his head. Then, he grumbles "Notepad." A second passes, he straightens up and starts scribbling something onto a notepad.
"What the hell just happened?" Hal asks bluntly.
"Red Robin is under there." Clark says immediately, used to this whole thing.
"Okay... Is there, like, a reason for that?"
Bruce grunts, and Clark says, "He likes it under there."
"Ooookkaayyyy then."
#dc#idk how to tag this#batman#bruce wayne#tim drake#dick grayson#humor#wally west#clark kent#superman#red robin#nightwing#the flash#tim drake being a little weirdo#i love him#at any given time a bat family memeber will hand a case file to a random hiding spot because Tim is in there#sometimes he isn't#its awkward
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Tim: My stomach's been feeling off lately.
Dick: Maybe you're pregnant.
Bruce: Don't be ridiculous. Clark has never impregnated a male, there's no chance Conner could.
Tim: Clark didn't have TTK either, but look at Kon.
Dick: *chokes*
Bruce: ...HN.
#later tim tells dick he's kidding#but dick isn't 100% certain#bruce wants to run tests#on kon#not on tim#possibly on tim to be safe#he's curious but also his son is involved#tim drake#dick grayson#bruce wayne#incorrect quotes#bat family#timkon#superbat#<-if you squint#conner kent#batman#red robin#nightwing#mpreg
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I tried something new
Part 1 -> Part 2
Masterpost
#DC#DCU#DC Comics#Dick Grayson#Damian Wayne#Bruce Wayne#Clark Kent#Lex Luthor#Nightwing#Robin#Batman#Superman#Superbat#Jason Todd#Red Hood#Cassandra Cain#Batgirl#Black Bat#Wayne Family Adventures#WFA#Damian's username isn't a representation of his character at all but rather a nod to that one DCAMU movie because I thought it was funny#Don't take it too seriously#Tim's username is based on that one comic panel I saw where he stayed up all night and Alfred found him like that#It just stuck with me and I wanted to honor it#Also Alfred here is Damian's cat Alfred
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Jason (buried underground): *panic, clawing, digging, catatonia*
Dick: *sings the beatles*
#dc comics#batfamily#batfam#dick grayson#jason todd#nightwing#red hood#clawing your way out the earth isn't all that bad#it's just a matter of perspective#dick grayson is a ray of sunshine#which is why he's singing this song as he zombie claws his way out of the ground#also imagine you're just walking by and you see fucking nightwing burst out of nowhere singing the beatles#comic panels
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I believe Dick views acrobatics the way artists view nude art.
Outsiders will be talking about how 'sexy' or 'hot' it is. Many sexualize it because they have all the inappropriate thoughts about his flexibility and body. The muscles, the curves... Some will think he does it on purpose. Such a tight costume? Of course he does it on purpose, right?
But it's nothing like that to Dick. He enjoys it like an artist does painting. He sees beauty in the art of acrobatics and performs with every movement. It's what his parents taught him, what's been part of him practically his whole life. You don't think of exotic something you see as natural. It's not erotic when it was never presented to you with that purpose. You don't think of double meanings when it only means one thing to you.
#I personally hate the sexualization of dick#specially when it's because of his acrobatics#one can think he's provocative all they want but dick isn't jumping and dancing in the air with that in mind#dick grayson#nightwing#dc comics#dc#hot take???
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Nightwing (prodding his father's arm with his shoe): Batman? Batman? Hey, Batman?!
Batman (lying on the dirt ground in pain): What?!
Nightwing: You're clearly too… um, sore to drive. I'm going to take you home.
Batman (weakly raising his arm): You… can't drive the Batmobile! You're not equipped.
Nightwing: I’ve driven it before, you had me drive it when I was fourteen. Then I would take it for a joyride around Gotham when I was a teenager.
Batman: You what—? Oh, I felt a pop in my spine.
Nightwing (shrugging with a smile): I did a lot of things as a pre-teen and then when I got my license I really enjoyed taking the car for a spin. Did you know about the time I tried mushrooms with Roy?
Batman: What?
Nightwing: It was a crazy night. I’m definitely glad I tried shrooms once—never again. In the mix, I tried heroin; I can’t remember how—probably snorted it. Just know it didn’t go well. Thankfully, right?
Batman (surprised): You tried heroin? I knew it was odd that you could taste it.
Nightwing laughed, nodding.
Nightwing: Never did that again. It did give me a better reason to want to help Roy. It took time to help him, you know that whole song and dance.
Batman (exhaling as he spoke): No.
Nightwing: Whatever you say Dark Knight who took a drug called venom to become OP. As for me, I ended up in the hospital. The doctor was nice that night. Whew, glad I got that off my chest. Oh, and remember the time I snuck Kori into the pool house? When we first started dating, and then again when we got back together? The second time? Way better. Fun times!
Batman (staring at the sky, wondering if this was a nightmare): This can't be real. I must be hallucinating.
Nightwing: It’s very real. Don’t worry, this last confession isn’t that bad. Sometimes I would use the Batmobile to take Jason out for ice cream. People think we hated each other when he was a kid. It wasn’t like that; I was just going through a phase. But the ice cream always made things better. He was just a little kid back then!
Batman: He was fourteen! Why are you telling me all of this?
Nightwing helped prop up his father on his back and began to walk him to the Batmobile.
Nightwing: Because you’re too sore to stand up and scold me. I'm not afraid of you anymore either. Like, I was a teenager; I did teenager stuff.
Batman: Trying magic mushrooms and heroin isn't "teen stuff"!
Nightwing: Alfred told me you smoked weed while traveling to Germany at seventeen.
Batman sighed, clearly annoyed.
Batman: The keys are in one of my pocket. If you can just get me into the passenger seat, I’ll pull them out myself.
Nightwing: Awesome! Ice cream is on me.
Batman (begrudgingly): I want rocky road.
Nightwing: I knew you'd say that.
#there comes a time as an adult where you can confess stuff like this to your parent and not be scared#I now headcanon that Dick isn't even remotely scared of how his father might react to stuff like this#plus Bruce can't ground him because he was a kid back then lol#nightwing#batman and nightwing#batman#batfamily funny#dick grayson#bruce wayne#batfamily adventures#batfamily comedy#batfamily#batfamily headcanons#batfamily fanfiction#script fic#mini fics#dc fanfiction#fan writing#batfamily wholesome#batfamily mini fics#batfamily shenanigans#flash fiction#wayne family adventures#dc stands for disregard canon#writer on ao3#batdad#nightwing just seems like the type of try shrooms it's a relatively mild drug... right?#ficlet#no beta we die like jason todd
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i think it's pretty clear who's who




#having intense rhato brainrot...i miss them#alt titles:#jason and his emotional support redheads#kory jason and their fav white boy#roy and his green glowy eyed freaks#rhato#red hood and the outlaws#joyfire#dc#dc fanart#art#my art#jason todd#roy harper#koriand'r#red hood#arsenal#starfire#jason todd fanart#starfire fanart#roy harper fanart#also jason's pins are really important to me!!!#nightwing pin bc he loves his brother despite what he'll tell you#park row public library pin <3#dead robins club pin that steph made them#pro palestine pin bc obviously#and many more political things#if jason isn't at least a little bit of an anarcho communist is he even jason
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Robins at therapy, ft. Dr Harley Quinn(pt 1)
Jason: So yeah, That's why my most favourite place to visit in Gotham is gargoyle number 256-
Harley: Let's talk about batman now.
Jason: no.
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Tim: It just scares me! Why am I gonna be Gun Batman?
Harley: You're gonna be what?
Tim: Is it because I don't have a spleen?! DOES NOT HAVING A SPLEEN MAKE ME AMORAL?
Harley: Hold on! Lemme just refer you to my therapist!
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Dick: I guess the way Batman just brought the joker back was one of the reasons I lost faith in him
Harley: That won't do! Get in the car, we'll end him again so ya feel better !
Dick: Yay!
#if you're wondering why jason isn't talking about Bruce it's because he's protecting his peace#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#batman#batfam#Nightwing#red hood#red robin#dc comics#dc#batfamily#batfamily headcanons#harley quinn#dc shitpost#batfam shenanigans#batfam at therapy#incorrect batfamily quotes#incorrect batfam#incorrect batman quotes
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Batfam in the new batman ninja trailer




#i love how everyone is commenting on damians hair just be happy he isn't bald anymore#lowkey going insane#damian wayne#red hood#dc comics#dick grayson#dc nightwing#batman ninja#dc batman#bruce wayne#tim drake#red robin
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if you're gonna make jason be angry at dick being a cop you gotta allow dick to be angry at jason for being a crime boss
#listen#the mob literally killed dick's parents#so if jason's pissed at dick for being a cop dick's got a very valid reason to be pissed back btw#and besides dick's time as a cop was actually very short and he was trying institutional reform#this isn't anti either of them#but it's annoying to pretend dick shouldn't be judging jason's decision to be a crime boss#i dont think its any of his business (unless its as nightwing) but if its not his business#then dick's job isn't jasons business either so#jason todd#dick grayson#red hood#nightwing#dc#dc comicss#dc batfam#dc robin
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They put Dick in a Wonder Woman shirt? Oooh I know Jason stans are gonna be mad about it lmaooo.

Nothing Butt Nightwing #24
#even though they have no right to be bc wonder woman wasn't canonically jason's fav anyway#he met her and made some comment about her legs freezing bc of her costume#whereas w superman he was like wow!!! can i get your autograph?!#see the difference young padawan?#besides wonder woman isn't dick's fav either/this is from nothing butt nightwing so who actually cares#but i can't remember if wfa gave jason a wonder woman hoodie or something#again not that it matters bc it's wfa and has no relevancy to actual canon#but i do enjoy the chaos of pitting nbn dick against wfa jason over a piece of wonder woman merch#Dick Grayson
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Bruce tried to avenge Jason, not Dick
This is just a rant about a lil thing that keeps coming up in fics I read. Often, Dick is "forgiven" by Jason because he "avenged Jason" by killing the Joker and Bruce "ruined it". Or Dick is written to have tried to kill the Joker after Jason's death but not Bruce, and Bruce may have tried to stop him.
First of, Dick did not try to avenge Jason. Y'all really want him to be okay with killing and ready to kill to avenge his loved ones, but Dick is better than Bruce, and that also means he is less likely to cross the line. No, Dick did not want to kill Zucco (Apart from the Titans show, but this show's characterization is awful), and no, he did not want the Joker dead. When Dick killed the Joker, it was in a moment of rage because Tim was in danger. He did not plan it and he immediately regret it. Bruce, with the help of HELENA who is fine killing people, brought the Joker back to life for Dick, because it would have broken him. And Dick still hates himself afterward, for killing the Joker even tho he is alive. And, again, he did not do it for Jason.
And, sure, you can have your hc, but the moment they are in conflict with who the character is (Dick is disgusted by the idea of being a murderer, killing someone or letting someone be killed, even the murderer of his brother), then we are going to have a problem.
Now, about Bruce. Upon discovering Jason's body, Bruce was settled on avenging him. It's why he took away every evidence, so he would not have anyone interfere between him and the Joker. He spent the days following Jason's death, and then Jason's funerals, looking for the Joker to kill him. He refused to call Dick because he did not want him to interfere, he was only thinking about his revenge and did not think the emotional importance of telling Dick about Jason.
The man is not thinking straight. And when he thinks he found where the Joker may be, Superman shows up, telling him that a Gotham's criminal is now under diplomatic immunity and the US gov doesn't want Batman being a bitch about it. And Bruce punches Clark in the face. That's how fucking unstable he is at this point, punching Clark without kryptonite because he is standing between him and killing the Joker.
Clark learns the Joker killed Jason, and he tries to make Bruce accepts to only kill the Joker, the only justice Bruce is accepting at this point, once he isn't a diplomat. YES, SUPERMAN DID NOT STOP BRUCE. Batman nearly succeeds in killing the Joker, but the helicopter they are in is going down, so Superman saves him. Bruce, the fucking madman he is, obsessed over bringing justice to his boy, doesn't care about his safety, he wants the Joker's body! And when it isn't found, he isn't satisfied but accepts to go home.
The Joker will come back at least a year later, and with some ptsd from his last encounter with the Bat and escaping death. Bruce, doing better mentally now that he has a new child to take care of (which he sends with his whole class to Japan to protect), is afraid he will kill the Joker. He keeps bringing up to Alfred how much he wants to kill him for TAKING JASON FROM HIM. But Alfred reminds Bruce again and again that he is a good man and he will resist. He does. This was not the last time Bruce faced the Joker after Jason's death and thought about killing him for Jason.
And, let me be clear, I do not expect Jason to know Bruce did that. The only people who know he did that are Clark, Alfred and Bruce himself (who will probably never tell Jason himself what he did). And maybe Dick, if you want to think (like me) that Bruce sat down with him (way later, after Tim is in the picture so Bruce is better mentally) and explained his mental state when Jason died, and how he didn't tell him not because he was trying to push Dick away, but because he was obsessed with killing the Joker he wasn't thinking rationally about his decisions; not to excuse his actions but to explain how it happened.
Dick is better than Bruce, which is why he grieved Jason surrounded by his friends, people that would support him and listen to him. He did not went on a vengeance mission because he had a support system. Was he mad? Yes, but he tried to open about it to others (the Titans, Koriand'r who was his gf,...) Bruce, on the other hand, is one unhealthy mf that immediately isolated himself once Jason died. He stayed in the cave and dedicated himself only to work, taking all his emotions out on beating people up because he was sharing it. And when people tried to talk to him, he would explode the moment they say anything that he could interpret badly (Clark telling him the Joker has immunity, Dick blaming Bruce for Jason's death...) This is why Bruce tried to avenge Jason and then went out every night being extremely violent and suicidal, and not Dick.
Dick did not avenge Jason and he did not try to, but that doesn't make him a bad brother. He cared deeply about Jason's death, but he is not Bruce, he is better, and that means he is also better at handling grief and not become a self-destructive bomb like Bruce was.
Avenging our loved ones is, in Batman & co's comics, demonstrated to not be the healthy way to deal with grief. Revenge isn't the healthy way to deal with lost, it will only lead to more destruction and pain. It will not bring the dead back, it will only add more bodies in the ground, and it will not heal the wounds.
#jason todd#dick grayson#bruce wayne#batfam#batman#red hood#nightwing#the joker#dc comics#my ramblings#one of the tragedy of Under The Red Hood is that Jason thinks Bruce doesn't love him when he does#That Jason doesn't know how much his father was wrecked by his death#That Bruce finally accepting life over death was the best solution for him to heal from losing his son#Anytime I see people say Dick is fine with killing or would kill for his loved ones I roll my eyes he would not#Dick is better than Bruce how can you not understand what that means?!#Seeing fics where Dick is wrecked by Jason's death but Bruce isn't makes me insane like no Dick was wrecked Bruce was unstable#that man punched Superman in the face for just bringing him info he didn't like he is not acting fine he is agressive af#I would not want to interract with Bruce during that time between Jason's death and Tim showing up#I just need people to understand how unwell Bruce was like this is beyond how people normally react to the death of a loved one#ngl the narrative is right about revenge and you would agree if you knew about vendetta in Corse where families are killing each other#like you kill someone they kill someone as revenge you kill someone in as revenge they kill someone it never ends#and being forcus on revenge and punishment is literally why the justice system in the US is so bad
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Nightwing is not the favorite child, he's the favorite soldier. Dick Grayson is the golden child turned scapegoat. Everyone needs Nightwing but no one needs Dick. In this essay I will-
#felix (host)#dc#dc comics#batfamily#dick grayson#nightwing#bruce wayne#batman#batman and robin#bc its implied#dick grayson analysis#this isn't saying jason isn't a scapegoat btw#bc he absolutely is#but dick is ALSO a scapegoat while simultaneously being the golden child#but he goes full scapegoat during/after Spyral#hes been a scapegoat since Bruce fired him from robin and Dick left#possibly even before then#but the expectations piled on him are very golden child esque#i think when Jason started being accepted (couldn't be the scapegoat anymore)#thats when it got worse for Dick#the role of scapegoat is split between them. sighs
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She's sweet. I agree.
Richard has not answered my messages, so I would like to add in my 2 cents and say,,
Count your days, Richard Grayson.
⭐️🔥
Ahlan. It has been awhile since I have posted any of my artwork. I decided to ask my siblings on what I should draw, and of course, one of them had told me to draw Starfire. I assumed it was mainly out of his... own liking... but, I agreed only because I wanted to do my facial study.
Here's the sketch. /ᐠ - ˕ -マ Ⳋ

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Am I giving Tim too much power and making him almost untouchable with many plot holes, and in fact, nothing you read will make sense? Yes, I am doing that, is there a problem?
Robin Hood AU Part 1
Tim Drake Saved Gotham from Batman. Yeah, but lets say that he didn't do it becoming Robin
He Saved Gotham by becoming the focus of attention and method of anger release for Batman
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And then there was a new rogue in Gotham. Batman didn't know who they were, what did they wanted, and why they seemed to be targeting only him. Inside and outside the mask, as Bruce Wayne and as the Dark Knight
He didn't have time for this, when he had them, when he found out who they were, he would destroy them, if necessary he would burn the world down, because his world burned with his son in that warehouse. Whoever the guy behind the attacks was, he would know the full wrath of the Dark Knight
But Tim was already hiding well from Batman right under his nose, Tim grew up following, watching and absorbing everything from the adults around him. But most of all he learned not to make mistakes. Tim would use the mistakes of the Joker, of Riddle, of each and every one of Gotham's rogues and learn not to leave clues, not to get caught, to hide right next to Batman, because it's a popular lie, Batman doesn't have eyes in the back of his head. The extra eyes he had died in Ethiopia
Tim had resources, time and only 12 years old, he was still moldable, he could fill any mold to perfection, so he forced himself to fit the mold of the rogue that Gotham would love. Because Tim wouldn't go for the city, he loved Gotham too much to destroy it trying to save a man who seemed to be digging his own grave, one in which he was dragging the city with him. Tim strategically targeted Bruce Wayne and Batman so that the man would get a slap in the face for his behavior. And if a building exploded, Tim would make sure that the people who worked or lived there would have good insurance and new jobs and compensation from Wayne Enterprises.
And Batman turned against the rogue who forced him to bury his own pain with his son and went to fight this guy who seemed to be virtually and physically everywhere. Batman knew the guy knew his identity, because the attacks were personal, lethal in any case, he was playing with him, mocking him. Until he seemed to stop
One day a letter on his door telling Batman how sorry he was and that "I had done what had to be done" and "I'm sorry for your loss, Mr. Wayne, but you were destroying the city with you" was all he got before the depressing silence of a quiet city -No, not a city, of Quiet Gotham-
The world kept turning and both lives continued
One next to the other
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Steph became Robin long before because Batman was trying to open his heart to another child, Cassandra arrived just as she was supposed to, Steph never died because Batman was there and Dick made peace with the brother he could never love and loved his sisters and when Jason came back to life there was no vengeance in his blood because Batman never replaced him 10 minutes after Jason died. Yes, he was angry at the Joker and Batman's inability to kill him, but someone else did and Jason will embrace whoever did it. And when Damian got home everything was fine and he didn't steal the mantle from anyone because Steph was eager to give it to someone else and get Batman off her ass.
And Tim's life was lonely. His parents never stopped being absent, and the plane crash still happened because that wasn't because he was Robin, but because he was simply a living being. (Yes, I'm changing things up here) Janet was left in a coma and Jack died and in the end he was just a kid in a mansion that was too big, but so afraid of depending on someone (the last time he saw someone depending on someone else he had to blow up several buildings and cyberbully them to calm them down) who took the reins of Drake Industries and invented an uncle just to not be put in the system and still be off the bats' radar
And then Batman died
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Hey you!, Yeah you!, Imagine that in the middle of the Bats' life, every time someone (a rogue) attacked Gotham, Tim would appear out of nowhere and digitally betray them to the Bats, and if Oracle isn't mentioned here, it's because you and I know that she would dismantle Tim from day one, so shut up, she's busy with her Birds of Prey or something, I DON'T KNOW, I'VE BEEN AWAKE FOR 26 HOURS
Part 2 of this bullshit
Part 3 cuz somehow I manage to make another one of these
Part 4
Part 5??????? Why????
Part 6 ma british accent write this
Part 7.5 We've gotten fanciers
Part 8 It took more than a while
#dc comics#isn't this crazy?#tim drake#tim drake centric#my be i can write a fanfic#part 2 coming soon#i hope#dick grayson#batman#nightwing#bruce wayne#batfam#am i gonna appear on tiktok?#dc robin#jason todd#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#this was fun#tim is a good rogue#not like joker#btw he killed joker#tim king#hes the king of the bamf#fr#red robin#batfamily#au#robin hood#robin hood au
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