#hazbin critic

[deadlyangelofpurity]

You know with how safe edgy Viv's shows I don't see why the setting is in Hell. I feel like Viv shot herself in the foot by doing this because it seems like Viv wants the praise of being considered edgy but she's too cowardly to follow through so we're trapped in this weird limbo where Viv wants to be edgy but is obviously putting on the brakes.

I think part of the problem Viv is quite immature.

Despite Viv being an adult, it is very evident in her writing style that she hasn't quite matured past the edgy teen phase and whilst her animation and drawing skills are good despite the questionable character designs, her writing is by far the weakest part of her skill set. It doesn't help Viv seems very impulsive and changes her mind on a whim and is willing to turn the story upside down at all costs as it's why Helluva Boss went from a dark comedy to Stolitz melodrama soap opera.

Not to mention Viv has amassed the wrong kind of audience for this show. Let's be honest with ourselves, despite Viv's show being rated adults, I am like 99% certain that at least a fairly large chunk of Viv's audience are teenagers and young adults at best who have been watching her since her channel got popular and most of these people primarily care about shipping and tend to be...immature and more volatile. I think that's partially why the writing is so juvenile because Viv is scared of alienating her audience. I think that's why she made Ozzie care for consent and Bee being concerned over people overindulging because Viv didn't want to make them unlikable at the cost of consistency. It's also probably why Lucifer's more evil pilot incarnation got changed into some wacky silly uwu depressed boy.

Viv seems to play favorites and she doesn't hide it. It's very obvious that when Viv favors a character, they become more likable almost instantly or at least she tries to make come off that way, though it's more noticeable with people like Stolas, Fizz and Lucifer. Compare their initial impressions in their debut episodes and you'll see a stark difference. I also think Viv is overall way too close to her fanbase because she takes ideas from them and she ain't subtle. Vaggie being a fallen angel was a fan theory that slipped into canon, Stolas and Blitzo meeting as kids was based off fan art and Hell, Chaggie wasn't even her idea(which probably explains how dull and unnecessary their relationship is) because a crew member made it and Viv being impulsive put it into canon despite Vaggie and Charlie acting more akin to best friends and honestly given how Vaggie's fallen angel backstory makes things so weird, I genuinely think she'd be better not existing in this series.

Honestly I'd at least respect Viv if she at least stuck with her guns here. Instead she's pretty much playing ping pong in terms of consistency because Viv's version of Hell is more or less Detroit but painted red.

[devdirt]

Just an observation.

The HH Twitter is scrambling for relevancy. Kung Fu Panda 4 got a new trailer, the Pokémon DLC dropped and today Good Omens announced season 3. They know they're being outplayed.

It's normal to ramp up posts to stay relevant but it's like they're scraping the bottom of the barrel for content already. "How cute is Sir Pentious in that costume? HuskerDust fans start talking!" It's engagement bait to stay on the For You tab.

They know their audience and that's who they're going after. I'm sure they saw the response in other places like where DiscussingFilm posted it and have realized they're not really pulling in new viewership. It's critical for them to maintain the audience they already have, and to be fair that is not an audience that experiences content fatigue. They're very excited and grasp at any bits they can, so I'm sure the deluge is welcome.

[greykolla-art]

Audio from Critcal Role, Calamity ep 4.

I’ve wanted to visualise this BANGER line for so long!

Thank you Alastor for fitting such a good villain speech!👏👏👏

Here’s also my favourite frames:

[sunlit-mess]

If loving you is a sin, then I'll gladly become a sinner

[barblaz-arts]

When Gomez Addams obsesses over his tol goth wife who he calls a million pet names, everyone calls them couple goals. But when a gay lil angel does the same thing for her tol demon gf suddenly it's toxic? As if Charlie isn't such a huge enough sweetheart to deserve having someone fawn over her anyways.

[heckdoggo]

Because I couldnt find a single post with ALL of the leaked Hazbin Hotel audition sheets, I made one my goshdang self.

[kawaiitail-chan]

I saw this peak masterpiece in my fyp LMAO!

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

This is so fucking funny

[s3tok41b4]

Hazbin cast redesigns

[autumnteawithfriends]

The Pinterest side of HH/HB slander is underrated

As a bonus, some GOATED comments

(NOTE! None of these were made by me and I cropped some images so stans don’t harass these people)

[bump-inthe-night]

Vivziepop fans claiming adding black features to her black characters would’ve made it “too difficult” to animate them is a hilarious excuse considering this is the same woman who had characters like these animated:

Another excuse fans have been using is that Vivziepop’s art style is “unsuitable” for black characters, despite her crew members proving otherwise: 

No art style is "unsuitable" for black characters because it's the artist's responsibility to learn how to draw them in their style. There's no excuse for black characters not looking black in your style.

Vivziepop could draw black features in her style but CHOSE not to, hence why none of the black characters look black outside their skin color, which sometimes they don't even have.

[deadlyangelofpurity]

Honestly Viv is just bad at writing. I think she doesn't think things through in the long run and it's why the show is all over the place.

Also I think let's her fans have too much influence on her writing. It's why we have Vaggie being a fallen angel as that was initially a fan theory and the way it sloppily implemented in canon makes it abundantly clear this wasn't planned. Seriously, Vaggie was the best Exorcist and she somehow has not killed a child before but she changed her mind because of some demon kid? I find that hard to believe. Also she somehow didn't get that Angels could be hurt/killed...when she's an Angel and Lute gouged out her eye. If anything Vaggie should have knowledge given her experience.

Also I feel like Charlie got dumbed down from the pilot and became more woman-child like to the point it honestly feels like Vaggie is her babysitter. Charlie really doesn't need to be in a relationship and honestly Vaggie is barely a character, she's just there so people remember Charlie likes girls.

Like Charlie can literally free Angel and the whole conflict with Val feels unnecessary. Seriously Charlie did nothing for months whilst Angel is getting abused despite it being within her power to do something. It's not like she'd face any consequences, what the hell can Val or his friends do if Charlie asked for the contract? Nothing. And even if they could, she could always cry to Lucifer to go get it.

Speaking of which, Viv has this horrible tendency of making characters that realistically should be evil totally softies. Not only did she choose a terrible setting for this, but it honestly just makes things weird. Like we're having moments where characters are giving speeches not to overindulge or sexually abuse people and it feels like something I'd watch on a kids show. Lucifer was also clearly supposed to be evil but Viv can't help herself. She makes characters total pussies and it ends of making her setting feels dumb. Her version of Hell is quite literally Earth at this rate and she cares more about likability than interesting characters but she can't even keep that consistent.

[doodler16]

What’s with Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss trying to gaslight the audience that some of these characters are friends when they barely interact or connected properly onscreen 😭

[arteicetb]

I don’t think I care for Pansexual man X horny Twink that invades his boundaries

[life-and-malice]

Swinging a bat at a hornet’s nest here, but Hazbin Hotel is Gen Z’s Harry Potter.

Both are made by pretty despicable women who claim to focus on women’s narratives, despite their own works pushing women to the side

Takes a pretty interesting and fantastical concept and waters it down so much its tasteless

Racism, transphobia, antisemitism abound

Just plain bad writing

Fans are fucking rabid over them and far too willing to buy their shit despite how horrible both JKR and Vivzie are

[sophieabigail2021]

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