#child grooming mention

[beemovieerotica]

ugh no I do have more to say about this

the replies on my posts have revealed this absolutist notion people have on identity i.e. the necessity of identifying as a victim. because so many people are harping on "well, the child never said she was exploited or groomed. so until she comes out and says it, we can't say anything!"

and like. I need everyone to understand that this viewpoint is fundamentally missing the entire fucking point of what grooming is - and people on here are continually paying lipservice to stopping something they wouldn't even be able to identify? 💀

the entire process of grooming is convincing someone that what is happening to them is normal, that it's preferable, that they are "chosen" and special and remarkable for receiving this attention. it is above all creating the false perception that the child has a CHOICE in the matter (which the child will attest to) and these gut-wrenching realizations often don't hit until well into adulthood (if fucking ever)

yes, I'm agitated about this because I had to listen to a friend in her mid-20s say that the relationship she had at age 14 with a 40 year old man was something that she "wanted" and she didn't feel like the man had groomed her at all. there are other people in my life who have been groomed and if you have not been there for someone who's gone through it, you have no concept of how long it takes for people to identify and face these patterns from their childhood and speak out about what happened. a youtuber who just turned 18 will not say it. an ex-child pageant teen will not say it. someone's inability to speak on it does not mean that the harm did not happen.

I'm using the analogy of child pageants because it's another situation where half the population recognizes it as grooming, while the other half is caught up in this idea of "nobody's *making* the girls do this, they're so excited and they want to be here! their parents aren't physically pushing them out onto the stage. they're smiling and having a great time. they say they're fine."

and it's just so deeply missing the point of what it is to be a child. with so little power, living in a household and fed and clothed and only allowed to do fun things by the good graces of someone from whom you've gotten almost your whole outlook of the world from.

no, nobody's dragging them out onto the stage. the parents of child youtubers also aren't forcing them to press record. but there is such a lack of basic analysis happening where people completely ignore the actual material rewards, motivations, and praise that these children continually get from their parents in order to keep doing that which is profitable - to keep performing actions which gratify strangers who are not invested in the safety of that child.

so we should be able to simultaneously acknowledge that parents make their kids do pageants / parents make their kids bring in ad revenue, alongside the fact that yes! kids have free will! and some of these things that kids do happens to be fun for them! but I am just asking people to ponder the difference between a) a kid playing dress up at home, running around with the family video camera and recording some home videos that only their siblings and parents will ever see

and b) a parent seeing that this brings their child joy, and going on to purchase elaborate costumes, props, makeup, cameras, microphone, laptop etc for the purpose of putting their kid directly in the public eye in a provocative manner that makes money

if people are still insisting that this act falls on a moral spectrum based on whatever nebulous "intentions" beyond money the parent has, then it's somewhere between active financial exploitation and flat out grooming, and that's it. a parent who cultivates an environment in which their child is incentivized, praised, and materially enabled to perform a behavior, ("you can pay for college by doing this!") in the very limited space in which a child may exercise their free will, in full reliance on that parent for their literal survival --- that parent is, in fact, exploiting them.

[fallow-grove]

reverse grooming. "youre so immature for your age"

[valentinokillsyouasmr]

stop letting your groomed children into my house they keep trying to touch my dick

[sage-thee-herbmaster]

Proof that minors are being groomed by PRATS.

This user thinks that the age of consent should be abolished, and that children of any age should be allowed to be in sexual relationships with adults and thinks you can’t be youth lib if you disagree with this. Everyone with a brain knows that, yes, pubescent minors can consent, TO EACH OTHER.

There’s nothing wrong with teenagers having sex, but it’s not healthy for them mentally, to engage in sexual relationship with grown ass adults even if it’s “consensual” as the consent that teenagers give to adults is usually the result of prior grooming (I should know because that happened with me) and there’s countless reliable studies and victim word of mouth recounts proving this.

Children can’t consent to adults, simple as that and hope that “AAM” radqueers realise this and get help.

This account also thinks that “cracker” is just as bad as a slur for white people as the n-word is for black people even though cracker doesn’t have the horrible history behind it like the n-word does, so yeah there’s that…

Conclusion: Radqueers are groomers, pass it on.

[just-antithings]

A comment I just had the misfortune of reading: "If your parents enjoy media featuring incest, watch out!! They're grooming you so you think incest is okay and they're going to use this to abuse you!!"

......

[vague-humanoid]

[l00rem]

Imo, this is the most telling/concerning line of the explorers

As we’ve seen, the environment of Explorers is incredibly toxic. 3/4 of the other admins have each insulted or taken shots at Amethio somehow. And it looks like this is nothing new, it’s horrible how Conia’s reaction to him being in a room alone with them is ‘oh god i hope he’s okay’. Amethio is a minor, he’s in a room full of people who seem to all be much older than him and ,in complete contrast to Liko’s situation, they all belittle him and insult him for every little mistake. It’s really upsetting how the only two people who have any sort of concern for him are his underlings- but Conia and Zir are absolutely powerless to really do anything about this. As much as they care about him, I don’t think Amethio would even be able to allow himself to be proper vulnerable around them. He’s already having to constantly prove himself, so how could he do something as unprofessional as spilling his worries to his underlings? It seems the only one he’s comfortable being open with is Ceruledge, but once again there is very little it can do to help him.

Then there’s Hamber. I’ve seen a few people give him the benefit of the doubt, especially because of episode 34 where it looks like he’s taken a shine to Amethio. But don’t let his fake concern fool you.

All i see here is basic professionalism, like he’s reading what he has to say off a script. He doesn’t actually mean what he’s saying: we’ve seen how high the Explorers expectations are, I mean just look at how much Amethio is overexerting himself in the second op, surprise surprise Hamber is sitting back and merely watching despite his earlier comment of not straining yourself. Not to mention, the moment things start going well for Amethio, Hamber immediately undermines his agency by going with Sango and Onyx to sort things out personally. Like no wonder Amethio seems to be triggered by not being taken seriously when this is how his (employers? guardians? idk) treat him!

He’s also got soooo many red flags! The biggest being when Sango half-heartedly refuses orders, to which he responds:

Literally physically intimidating her! And her reaction raises even more red flags, despite her happy demeanour the way she instantly complies is very telling that this isn’t the first time Hamber’s resorted to such threats… and this is the same environment a 16ish old is being raised in!

Maybe it’s just the amount of pressure he was putting on himself, but look how stressed and low-key terrified Amethio looks when fighting Hamber!!

And even if we want to make the case that maybe Amethio is this special exception for Hamber and that he’s got a soft spot for him… he is ultimately still complicit in grooming Amethio into this shady organisation. Episode 34 even reveals that Hamber was the one who trained Amethio, which also fuels the idea that he might have been some random child they find and realised how easily they could manipulate him into becoming the perfect loyal admin. Well i personally subscribe to the Amethio is an orphan theory rather than Gibeons son, especially considering that comment about Gibeon ‘awakening’, Idk if Gibeon is even properly alive.

Btw if you’re interested in further exploration in what I’ve discussed in this post allow me to shamelessly plug my fic that finished recently. It delves into the shadiness of Explorers and how really fucked up Amethio’s situation is! https://archiveofourown.org/works/52757629

It’s kinda weird how we’ve gone from ‘haha look at team Rocket blast off again aren’t they so wacky?’ to literal child grooming. I’m all for the serious themes tho.

Tldr: Hamber deserves to be pushed down a flight of stairs, Amethio needs so much therapy.

[beemovieerotica]

I think there's extra care that needs to be taken when you're discussing a person choosing to do sex work and using that as evidence they've been groomed. I agree her situation was bad and her mother was exploiting her but some of your post talking about her "catering to men" because that's all she knows how to do starts to eek into SWERF territory tonally. I'm not trying to start a fight just adding to the narrative.

I'm not talking about literally anyone else's situation but hers, I've been vocally in support of sex workers on my blog if you've followed me for more than 5 minutes

she's 18 and she can do whatever the fuck she wants with her life now, but is it not possible to just grieve the fact that she had an entire waiting fanbase of adult men who watched her go through puberty and who had with countdown clocks for the day she turned 18 so they could finally buy legal porn of her? can we step back for 2 seconds and acknowledge how fucked up that is without gagging at something that is vaguely "tonally" not at all what I'm saying?

[coldflasher]

still thinking about my post from the other day about eobard making barry the flash about a decade earlier, when he's still a teenager, so he'd be easier to manipulate. and then obviously i started thinking about where len would be in this scenario because i'm unwell and i have permanent leonard snart brainrot :)

assuming barry's 13 in this AU and we're sticking with the same age gap, len would be around 30... so then i started thinking about how different the dynamic would be, with a lonely barry who's being increasingly isolated by eobard, right in the thick of the most tumultous time in his relationship with joe, because he's always sneaking off and coming back all busted up and lying his head off and acting all cagey and exploding with temper every five minutes---except while joe thinks he's just a traumatized kid acting out and having a hard time at school, really he's off every night being "trained" by eobard and then being pitted against fully grown adult metas... though i do think i'd make at least some of them the same age as barry if only because imagine the ANGST of barry getting his powers, thinking he finally has one up on his bullies, and then the other kids at school start turning into metas as well.

i'm thinking specifically of tony woodward—all the pain and frustration and humiliation that twenty-five-year-old barry felt facing up against his childhood bully, now with powers... imagine that, except he's still at school, still stuck in the thick of it with this kid who's made his life hell, except now his bully has superpowers, and so any fantasies barry might have had about kicking his ass now he's the flash and is more powerful than any of the kids at school could imagine? well, forget it, because tony's STILL bigger and stronger than him and now he's now kicking barry's ass outside of school too

anyway i'm getting sidetracked. my point is i was thinking about moody teenage barry and an older len who's faced up against the flash, thinking there's a new player in town, only to discover that the flash is some scrawny punk kid with no one in his corner, and all the adults in his life are failing him, ESPECIALLY this creep eobard thawne who's "mentoring" him. len takes a very dim view of anyone who's getting a kid mixed up in the criminal world, considering his own father did it to him, AND he's just getting skeevy vibes off eobard anyway because he's an adult and better equipped to see through eobard's manipulations, unlike barry, who's doing the infuriating teenage thing of thinking he's sooo mature for his age and knows what he's doing and is not gonna listen to anyone who's trying to warn him that this whole thing is super sketchy and he's falling victim to a predator, but unfortunately he's not gonna realize it until he's a decade or so older and his frontal lobe develops---

and so we have this (platonic bc barry's like 13/14, though barry probably has a lil unrequited crush) coldflash dynamic with them kinda being friends bc len's somehow inadvertently ended up a mentor/support system for this fucked up, scrappy, little meta kid because god knows no one else is looking out for him, and anyway here's a small snippet of what my brain's doing (unedited but whatever we're just having fun and god knows i can't start another insane sprawling AU right now as much as i've been violently chewing on this idea all day, soooo)

Barry picked at the splintered wood on the table. “Eobard makes me feel kinda weird sometimes.”

Len watched him out of the corner of his eye. He didn’t like the sound of that. “Weird how?”

Barry shrugged his birdlike shoulders.

For a moment, Len focused on the map laid out in front of him, considering his next move. When it came to locks, carefully getting them to open up was his specialty. When it came to people, not so much.

He decided to be blunt. “He touch you?”

Barry’s mouth popped open, outrage and disgust mingling together. “No!” he protested, his voice cracking a little. Immediately, his mouth snapped shut, jaw jutting out mulishly, and he glared at Len. “Not like that.”

Len scrutinized him. He was pretty satisfied it was an honest answer. The kid wasn’t a bad liar, given time to prepare, but he sucked at improv; put him on the spot and he crumbled in seconds.

“He’s just… intense, that’s all. About my powers.”

Somehow Len doubted that was all he was intense about. Clearly something about this Eobard creep was making the kid’s spidey senses tingle, and probably for good reason. Len knew his type—there were plenty like him in prison, doing time for their proclivities. And plenty more on the outside who were better at hiding it. Just because the guy hadn’t put his hands on the kid so far didn’t mean he hadn’t thought about it.

“You thought about talking to someone?” Len asked. “An adult?”

Barry gave him a withering look like only a teenager could, then looked him insolently up and down, like he was missing something very obvious. Len gave him a similarly derisive look right back, one with over a decade of extra power behind it, just to show him how it was done. “I meant an authority figure.”

“You mean like a shrink?” Barry scoffed—which was pretty similar to what Len’s response would have been if anyone had made that suggestion to him. “Pretty sure Joe’s insurance wouldn’t cover another one. And we’d have to go out of state. I’ve seen every shrink in the city and they all think I’m crazy.”

“Your Dad, then.” Not that Len believed a guy who murdered his wife was exactly a stellar role model, and clearly Henry Allen was no stranger to manipulation himself, to have the kid so staunchly convinced he hadn’t done it when it had happened right in front of him—but having a father in prison had its perks. Len’s own father wasn’t exactly father of the year, but even he’d have called in a few favours from Iron Heights if he caught wind of some creep sniffing around his kid, if only on principle.

“I’m not allowed to see him,” Barry muttered.

The dark look in his eye told Len that there was little use in suggesting he told Joe. Clearly, they still weren’t getting along.

[sacrifical-lamb-core]

Planet au candy salad trauma dump trend! But with the people, I have the backstories for

Bianca: Hi, I'm bianca. My brother was ripped apart by campers because of a prophecy that said he might be cursed,leading ke to join thalias side to destroy Camp Half blood, and I brought Skittles

Piper: Hi, my name is Piper. I was SA'd as a child by one of my dad's famous costars, and my dad did nothing bc he didn't want to risk his reputation leading to a horrible relationship with love and intamacy that makes it much worse that im Neptunes daughter, god of love. I brought Squashies

Annabeth: Hi, im Annabeth, and I was groomed by my mom to be a perfect puppet for the gods and then had my will taken away from me and used as a weapon for my friends and I brought fizzy gummy worms

Luke: Hi, I'm Luke, and I was turned into a tree to prove a point by a vengeful goddess, and by the time I stopped being a tree, Thalia was considered a traitor who wanted to destroy the gods and Annabeth was virtually unrecognisable. I brought Chocolate fingers

Thalia: Hi, I'm thalia, and I had both my friends ripped from me at a young age and tried staying but ran away to form my own army, allying with dark forces bc I thought they'd be a lesser evil and I could overpower them, leading to the death of a lot of my friends. I brought pop rocks

(Theu all sit down and eat their candy)

[aita-blorbos]

AITA for murdering four people because a guy made a gross comment about my sister?

I, 13F lost my older sister, who I'll call A, 23F a few days ago. It was an incredibly devastating loss for me and was also deeply traumatic. She had been forced to assist in a murder by her boss R, 39M, who had an insane amount of influence and power over legal officials because he's been blackmailing them for 15 years. Since our country's legal system is incredibly fucked up, they refused to acknowledge the fact that she was under duress and sentenced her to death alongside R.

About six months ago, I found a childhood diary of A's from before I was born. I'm not going to go into detail about what I found, but it was enough to make me literally vomit. I felt really hurt that she, as well as my oldest sister, F, 33F, had completely hidden so much about my families history from me, as I knew SOMETHING had happened before this (A was in beauty pageants and on a reality TV show as a little girl as well as in incredibly sexualised ads and magazines and shit as a teen and barely an adult) and I knew A was plagued by nightmares, but I didn't know what they were about.

So, about three days after my sister's execution, two boys I knew, who I'll call W, 15M, and C, 17M, started to mock me and my beloved girlfriend D, 13F. The two boys had often gotten tried to bully me and my girlfriend for being weird emo lesbians, but that day W said something that made me see red. He told me, quote, "Damn, I wish I could've fucked your sister before she died."

I immediately start punching and kicking him and W, as well as C, start attacking me back. D didn't really get physically involved with the fight because she's always been incredibly anti confrontational and shy, but she did cheer me on. Eventually, our teacher found us and sent us to the vice principal's office and he suspended all four of us for a few days.

Now, D's parents have always been incredibly abusive and as soon as she found out she was being expelled, she burst into tears. D and I grown increasingly codependent over the past 6 months and I've let her know many times that I can and will kill for her, to which her response was usually, "please do not do that", but this time I actually wanted to kill her parents. So, we were dismissed and we went our seperate ways from the two men.

I took D to the apartment where I live and I convinced her to kill her parents with me to make sure they wouldn't kill her first. Eventually she agreed and we snuck into her home in the middle of the night and slit her parents throats in their sleep. Cue typical body hiding, dismembering, yada yada all that. I even got to take a nice, romantic bath with D to wash the blood off our bodies.

Anyway, the next morning, I wake up and I decide that last night was a really fun date and I wanted to do it again. So obviously the next people we kill were gonna be W and C. My girlfriend was MUCH more hesitant to follow through with this plan because W and C are still kids or whatever, they hurt her much less than her parents hurt her, beating them up was enough, and they both have little sisters who are in our homeroom at school who don't deserve to lose a sibling. I managed to convince her anyway, despite how reluctant she was.

We set up a false account under the name of a girl in our class called S, 13F, who had been severely bullying D and even sent her to hospital for a "prank". We added the two guys to a groupchat and managed to lure them into a forest by promising sex and weed because we know that they're both stoners and weird horny teenage boys.

I found them in the woods and stabbed W a couple times. C managed to get away and call the cops after seeing his best friend die so D went after him and stabbed him to death too. At some point the cops showed up and circled D and I with guns, to which I got really scared they were going to hurt my girlfriend and jumped at her, causing all the cops to fire at once.

So I'm currently writing this from the bullshit afterlife the wizard put us in (my bloodline is cursed by a wizard but thats neither here nor there) and W and C are REALLY mad at me. Also, apparently D was right because W's sister, T, 13F, just showed up on account of literally killing herself because she missed her brother so bad.

So, yeah, AITA?

[just-antithings]

I find it funny when someone who drew/shipped/wrote something taboo is found out to be a bad person, all the antis come out of the wordworks to say "See! Profics are bad! Look at this person!"

Cause I just look at it and go, the vast majority of people that get called out for being horrible people were in communities that hated those people. Coming from someone who has been online since I was 9 and witnessed a lot.

Like ICP's (Insane Clown Posse) most popular song is "To Catch a Predator" where they lure a child predator to their house and torture them in their basement. And the amount of child molestors in that community are uncanny. And I mean people who were arrested, tried, convicted, and registered as child molesters.

The amount of predators that are found in "Predator Catching" communities is insane, to the point I see more videos start with "This groomer was in a predator busting server" than "This person rallied against predator busting"

And don't get me started on the amount of antis that send porn to minors.

Like in truth, bad people are more likely to hide to places that are against them, cause it gives them an alibi. "I would never sexted a minor. I've been against people like that for years. These are just lies to make me look bad."

^^^ That isn't even hyperbole. That exact argument had been used so many times.

It's just annoying cause it's throwing stones in the world's biggest glass house.

👆👆👆👆

[kcyars99]

it goes without saying that child molestaton is nothing to make fun of nor you should out the victim of sexual abuse because it’s the victims story to tell

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Drake has zero problems harassing and targeting the wives and fiancé of his rivals (pusha t and Kendrick Lamar) and targeting women who once were associated with him but want nothing to do with him (Rihanna, Serena, Megan) but had to be shamed into being a father to his own son

and while he’s sitting here talking about how Kendrick being a "woman beater” and his son not being his but Dave free he’s out there being friends with that leprechaun who shot at Megan four years ago advocating for his freedom which is never gonna happen , possibly hiding an 11 year old daughter , text messaging teenage girls like a lovesick boyfriend even though he’s old enough to be their father and him being loud and wrongo about his rivals rough childhood(see the critical and commercial flop The Heart Part 6 in which f Drake claims that Lamar fixates on the topic of pedophila because of his own supposed molestation as a child, labeling this "trauma from [Lamar's] own confessions". Drake traces this to Lamar's song "Mother I Sober" off of his 2022 album Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers, referring to the song as "that one record where you say you got molested". However, the referenced song is actually about generational trauma and Lamar's mother not believing him when he truthfully told her he had not been molested.)

so it’s a problem for Kendrick to have a successful hit making record breaking potential song of the summer and song of the year, which is a complete annihilation of Drake but it’s okay for Drake to make light of molestation, messing with his male rivals family members and children’s, being inappropriate with teenage girls and hide children and not take care of them and make light of the trauma of black folks more specifically black women traumatic experiences and hangs out with these women’s abusers and it’s all friends with them? Are you kidding me? Don’t make me laugh.

I don’t care if there’s a gummy bear, teddy bears, the bearstein bears, Chicago Bears, Chicago Cubs, Yogi Bear, polar bear, black bear, grizzly bears, mama bear , Jeremy Allen White from the TV series the bear, little bear from the children series little bear, Paddington Bear, corduroy bear, Winnie the Pooh, Bear Grylls, heck, even smoky the bear I’m choosing those bears over Drake every time because they are not a sassy immature biiich like him

[romanceclub-confessionss]

Confession:

Damon's route in Arcanum could've been a cautionary tale about the dangers of p*d*philia and child gr**ming but I didn't get that vibe from the story. I guess some people like forbidden love story with large age gap?

[nerves-nebula]

btw was anyone else getting a groomed children vibe last fantasy high season with the ratgrinders and porter. especially porter. i mean that guy basically groomed Zac the real person as Gorgug into thinking it was ok to be mistreated cuz "it worked" or w/e

anyway i dont care enough to do anything about it but it's on my mind especially since i think (idk i cant remember) kipperlilly was like the only one who was SUPER INTO the whole plan from the jump. and even then it's like. guy who wants to be a god takes advantage of angry entitled teenage girls rage.

[xxduncandonutxx]

The proshit discourse is so funny to me because, you would think it would be obvious for the disgusting freaks of nature to know that "Hey, drawing problematic ships and such is... well, problematic" but I guess not.

Content warning: mentions of pedophilla, further discussive about proshitting, incest and so on.

Like, Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying YOU CAN'T write problematic or dark stories and subject matters but if you are going to romanticize them or treat them as a cutesy thing then that's when I'll have a problem. You need to handle heavy subject matters respectfully, don't be like Reitanna Seishin who admitted to enjoying same-sex incest and had written a story where a baby was born with a sexual addiction to the point that if the child doesn't do anything it'll have seizures and pass out (yes, that's an actual story that she is writing). I also seen proshitters trying to use so many excuses of why they make that sort of content, one of the comment excuses is "To deal with trauma" or even "My therapist says that I'm allow to draw/create this content because it helps me". Which if that is the case then... why not do it on a private account or away from the public? Because if you are going to draw proshit stuff or write proshit stuff as a way to cope with what happened to you in the past, you should do it in private because by posting it in the public you are feeding predators and abusers (or future abusers) this sort of stuff or even making the child think that this stuff is "okay" and "normal" (just like what happened to me in the past where unfortunately, I met a couple of people and use to listen to a certain YTber [*cough cough* reitanna seishin] and was convince that incest is "fine" as long as it's same sex couples... thank god I never wrote or created art of same sex incest or anything but still, it fucked me up and opened to me being groomed online). I highly suggest reading this comic which expands further on the topic.

Also as for the whole "Oh my therapist suggest me to write and draw this stuff" ....find a new therapist please. Because if that's really the case, that is very concerning if you're therapist is telling you to draw that shit and post it to the public. Because, I never heard of a therapist telling their patients to post cp or proshit content in the public where potential creeps can jack off to it... EDIT 31/07/24: Ummm... I just remember that I "did" made same sex incest art but it wasn't really art, it was a mlp next gen adoptable I made when I was younger... reminder, I was being influenced by certain users on deviantart (unoriginai and i forgot the other person's user) and the fact I was listening to Reitanna's stories about Jin and Gin (i think that's how you spell their names) and her rambling about how it's "fine" to create mlm/wlw incest. I did eventually I did "stop" by stop I mean someone suggested me to NOT call them next gens and call them fusions instead which I did, to this day I never made any fusion adoptables or next gens that were literally sibling x sibling or child x adult instead I just made normal next gen adoptables after I was kicked off of Deviantart and lost contact with my groomer(s) and one of my friends actually coming to me concern and explaining to me that this shit is not okay