#character: jiang wei

[movielosophy]

Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty 2 - Hermit Jiang

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Not beating the allegations.

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[bobcat-art]

mo dao zu shi? don’t you mean

Jiu Jiu’s Bizarre Adventure

(thank you @princess-of-purple-prose for the image description!)

[doublxpresso]

MDZS color wheel challenge!

[qiu-yan]

the upside: wei wuxian wants to return to lotus pier and reconcile with jiang wanyin.

the downside: jiang wanyin.

the upside: the conversation goes well, and jiang wanyin agrees to allow wei wuxian and lan wangji to visit lotus pier.

the downside: lan wangji can't swim.

the upside: jiang wanyin agrees to help teach lan wangji how to swim.

the downside: jiang wanyin does this by using the same method he has used to teach every jiang disciple how to swim: he plants his foot on an unsuspecting lan wangji's back and bodily kicks him into the lake.

the second downside: lan wangji still can't swim.

the upside: wei wuxian bravely dives into the lake to rescue his husband from drowning.

the downside: turns out mo xuanyu's body can't swim either.

[atqh16]

I don’t think Wen Ning told Jiang Cheng about the golden core because he wanted him to know he owed Wei Ying or any of the sort. Like a lot of people seem to think that and therefore conclude Wen Ning was out of line. But it’s more likely that he did it to give Jiang Cheng the wake up call he needed. Because he has lived for 13 years in denial of the truth in that Jiang Yan Li’s death was not Wei Yings fault and he himself had a hand in his brothers demise. It was meant to be a reminder to him of who Wei Ying actually is and the made up version he has in his head is a perception that has been warped by his anger and grief. It’s meant to be a reminder of how much Wei Ying loved him. Jiang Chengs anger is understandable but it doesn’t justify him treating Wei Ying the way he did and putting all the blame on him without ever trying to comprehend the choices his brother made and why he made them.

[sonik-kun]

Reminder that canon Jiang Cheng is:

- Self-sacrificing. There have been numerous examples in the book where JC is willing to lay down his life for his family and sect without a second thought. Charging at Wen Chao and Wen Zhuliu in the turtle cave. Stepping in front of his mother to protect her from the core melter hand. Distracting the Wen before they discovered WWX. Offering himself as a hostage in return for JL in the Guanyin Temple incident, etc.

- Fiercely protective of his family. The above bullet point elaborates on this part well. But I would also like to add that he is extremely protective of JL. He follows him on nighthunts and is the first person JL calls for whenever he is in trouble. The moment JL sends out a flare, JC is instantly in there, dropping everything for him.

- He allows JL to be a child. Despite the historic context and the stiff upper lip attitudes of that time period, JC allows JL to be a child still. He is spoilt rotten and never knew the same horrors those of his previous generation had to endure. JC does all he can to keep him safe from that to prevent similar incidents from happening again. He also allows JL to healthily express his emotions and never once scolds him for crying. The moment he sees him upset, he's in there soothing him, ready to throw hands with whoever hurt him.

- He doesn't use corporal punishment methods on JL despite it being the norm of that society. JL explains this to WWX who was shocked to discover that JC doesn't punish JL, despite his threats. JL is horrified by the notion and is very comfortable and secure around his uncle. Secure enough to give him sass even, something JC would never dreamed of doing to his elders.

- He is an excellent and attentive leader. He built his sect from the ground up and recruited people on his own all whilst he was still a teenager, still recovering from trauma and torture. He brought his sect back from the brink of annihilation and built it back up as a major sect on very minimal experience with little next to no guidance.

- He's politically savvy. From a young age, he was always socially aware of everything, valuing the safety of his sect and family above everything else. He correctly predicted WWX's downfall and tried so much to warn him and save him from it. Powerless in that moment, he chose his sect over WWX in fear of them being annihilated a second time should he side with him. WWX understood and respected this, so defected of his own accord.

- He still believed in WWX and held onto hope for him, even when things were looking bleak. Despite WWX siding with the Wen, the sect that almost annilihated his own, JC allowed WWX to go with them and remained friends up until WWX inadvertently got JZX and JYL killed. He still allowed WWX to see his sister and even name his nephew. They visited each other in secret regularly despite the risks of being caught, and JC tried to defend him even in the face of the three most strongest sects. He wasn't successful, but he tried.

- He is more reasonable and level-headed than the rumours lead you to believe. We see this when the prostitute comes to testify about JGY. He calmly considers her word and everything she has to say. Not once was he rude or snappy with her. He also remembers his etiquette and addresses elders with manners and respect. He may at times be quick to anger, but he is also quick to calm himself down and conduct himself properly as we see in his first scene where he lets "MXY" go, despite being a practicing demonic cultivator.

- He let's WWX go in the end. The moment he learns the truth about everything and that WWX wasn't entirely guilty for everything everyone accused him of, JC drops all feelings of aminosoty towards him. He doesn't blame him, nor does he actively pursue him anymore and demand he answers for his "crimes." JC got all the answers he wanted from him and instead of holding on to grudges and resentment, he let WWX go to be happy with LWJ, despite clearly wanting him to come back to Lotus Pier. He understands and respects that WWX is ready to move on and start a new life with LWJ. It hurts him, but he respects that decision.

There are many more positive traits I could discuss here, but I'll be here all day if I did.

JC is a nuanced character with a lot of flaws, but he also has a lot of positives that make his character realistic and relatable but also very likeable. He is a traumatised man with a troubled past, but he never allowed it to truly bring him down. He persevered, built up his sect, and raised a nephew with a pure heart. I think it's safe to say that despite his problems and despite everything he has gone through, JC is a survivor with a strong heart. He has a lot of admirable traits that you mustn't ignore or deny if you truly wish to enjoy and appreciate his character.

[ayingdidi]

In my opinion, redemption for Jiang Cheng's character is impossible. It’s odd how most discussions about his potential redemption always solely centre around his relationship with Wei Wuxian.

While it’s true that Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian, his biggest crime isn’t his treatment of Wei Wuxian—it’s the massacre of the Wen Remnants. His redemption shouldn’t just be centred around his relationship with Wei Wuxian, it should focus on the Wen Remnants, who were brutally slaughtered under the siege he led.

Making peace with Wei Wuxian doesn’t erase the much larger moral crime of leading a massacre against innocent people. True redemption should be about confronting the full extent of one’s wrongdoings, and in Jiang Cheng’s case, that means dealing with the massacre, not just his wrongdoings against Wei Wuxian.

Jiang Cheng never reflects on the massacre, expresses any regret for the innocent lives lost, or takes responsibility. For Jiang Cheng to even have a chance at redemption, he’d need to show real remorse for what he did to the Wen Remnants—and honestly, I just don’t see that ever happening.

[stgroversfire]

ive never really been compelled by xicheng but the idea of wangji having to watch his brother fall in love with someone he sees with such contempt is so funny to me

and wei wuxians there like. hm this is weird but good for them right? and wangji wants to punch a tree

lan qiren is just so done. why are his nephews so whipped for these shitty jiang disciples

[marshmallowwitharubberband]

Some time ago, I made this post of a silly idea that came to me while reading a poorly written fanfiction where my flu-addled brain started imagining everyone as vegetables. The idea wouldn't leave me, I had to draw it.

Yes, their clothes are a mix of TU, the donghua and other media bc I did this from memory and for giggles so I went with the details I associated the most with each character. No, I don't know how two leafy vegetables produced a pepper.

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

I know those eyes.

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[demonicfarmer69]

hang out with wwx they said it'll be fun they said

[yudidoodles]

I know this is nowhere near the most important thing during the Phoenix Hunt but its so funny to me that this is how he's trying to flirt lol

ft Wangxian being stupid in the background because that is the other reason this scene is so funny

[qiu-yan]

thoughts

also wasn't sure what to do with the lan simp brothers so i guess they can sit on the side

[atqh16]

Anyone who agrees with Yu Ziyuan that it was Wei Wuxians 'fault' that Lotus Pier was attacked either have the media literacy of an ant or are just that stupid. It's made clear repeatedly that Yu Ziyuan will blame Wei Wuxian for anything under the sun. She has zero sense of accountability and constantly uses her own kids in her war against her husband which isn't just an absolutely shitty thing to do but also incredibly traumatic for them. Regardless of your issues with your spouse you don't drag your kids into it.

Wei Wuxian did nothing wrong. Finding faults in the action of a child in order to incite conflict is pretty much the tactic of every dictator ever. Which is what Wen Ruohan is. If it wasn't for Wei Wuxian most if not all the other teenagers in the Xuanwu cave would've died. It's made pretty obvious that Wen Ruohan is more than willing and ready to start a fight against the other clans. He'd already attacked and burned down the Cloud Recesses. Yunmeng was ALWAYS going to be next. Wang Lingjiao 'blaming' Wei Wuxian wasn't about making an excuse, it was about baiting Yu Ziyuan into striking first. Which she did cause she has the diplomacy skills of a rabid dog.

Also it does not matter if Wei Wuxian says her whipping wasn't that bad. You don't ever whip a fucking child. The cultural and historical context might make it understandable but it doesn't make it justifiable. You don't get to condemn Jiang Fengmian for being a bad parent then bend over backwards to defend Yu Ziyuan.

[sonik-kun]

Jiang Cheng never brought up his own sacrifice because he didn't want Wei Wuxian to feel indebted to him again, not because it would make his own sacrifice obsolete.

He wanted to let him go so he could be free to live with Lan Wangji and maybe to hopefully even start afresh again.

Jin Ling, who knows his uncle well, even acknowledges that he wanted to say something to Wei Wuxian when the pair left.

Jiang Cheng is a selfless person for this reason. He knew how much it would destroy Wei Wuxian if he told him what really happened.

He never held his sacrifice over him in that moment. He never held it over him in the core reveal scene. And he never held it over him even when their tensions first started when Wei Wuxian decided to protect the Wen and left him for a sect that tried to destroy his own.

Jiang Cheng kept that secret to himself because he understood Wei Wuxian and ultimately because he loves him. He doesn't want Wei Wuxian to owe him anything, and he doesn't want him to feel indebted to him. All he wanted was his bro back. And even then, he let Wei Wuxian go in the end because he saw that that was what he wanted.

Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian both decided to move on in the end so they can grow into better people. The JC antis in this tag, who keep bringing up the same discourse, should do the same thing. They might feel relief if they do. 🥰