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[ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE THINKINGS]
oooooo boi, do I have thoughts about spiderverse.
like oh my GAWD
okay, so, first I wanna talk about Miguel's ideology with cannon events and how breaking them is "bad"
we see, some evidence in the movie that would indicate he is correct about this assumption, however there is also big damming evidence that this assumption is VERY FUCKING WRONG.
I'll first address the shown evidence that indicates any semblance of truth to Miguel's fears. First, we meet Pav, great introduction, action sequence, stopping death and most destruction, and Miles stops the one death that is "supposed" to happen: the death of Captain Singh. Nearly immediately after the day is saved, we see the fabric of Mumbattan start to break a little bit. So, we have a case of cause and effect right? cause: "cannon event" didn't happen, effect: reality does a fucky wucky and splits like a banana.
I don't think it is, and here's why: before Captain Singh's life was ever in danger, we had the event of Spot activating the Mumbattan collider. Remember what happened in into the spiderverse when a collider was activated? reality started getting REALLY fucked. I think the reaction of spot activating and interacting with the collider was the cause for the sudden rip in reality to open up. It's a deceptive clue hidden by the writers, at least in my opinion.
okay, if not the cannon event of Captain Singh's death, then what about Miguel's backstory?
I don't doubt for a minute that Miguel believes he caused the destruction of an entire world because he interacted with it too much. That is what he BELIEVES happened. That doesn't mean there weren't other causes that led to the webs of a world to disappear and break. I honestly don't think we've seen enough of Miguel's time in that world to use it as evidence that he's right. Spiderman, ANY spiderman, can't see everything that's going on all the time. there could have been things afoot that he didn't discover before the collapse.
So now, what evidence do we have that Miguel is wrong?
Miles 1610 and Miles 42. The existence of both of these characters and the worlds they inhabit still existing is proof that Miguel can't possibly be right. Don't follow?
Let me explain.
Miles from earth 1610 was never supposed to get bit by the spider, therefore every single action Miles makes as spiderman is a "non-cannon event" and yet earth 1610 has been stable from the moment the collider was shut down in the first movie. If any characters from different spiders' worlds made it into 1610 there would have been some indication of it mentioned to plant clues for the next movie, it would be foolish not to. Miguel is only meant to appear right, it's how it's written and how Miguel presents it to the other spiders.
And earth 42 with Miles 42? He was supposed to get bit, he didn't and now he's the Prowler of earth 42. If we assume that every action Miles 1610 does as spiderman is a "non-cannon event", we must also assume that every action Miles 42 does as the Prowler is also a "non-cannon event". World 42 still exists, and still hasn't seen hide nor hair of and reality ripping since the collider incident.
There is something else causing the rips and tears, and there's evidence that it's the colliders and the Spot.
now I'd be remiss if I neglected to mention the beloved Hobie Brown. A lot of my evidence is getting pulled from This video here a character analysis of SpiderPunk and his depth in the 5 minutes of screen time he has (great video, watch if you have the time).
In his 5 minutes of screen time Hobie plants seeds of doubt for both Miles and the audience. He acts as the writers' hands to get us to question what's really going on in the Spider Society before we realize what's wrong. Hobie recognizes the patterns of fascism in the society and the autocracy in Miguel and actively works to combat it. He secures tech to make a watch so anyone can world hop even if they aren't in the spider society, he tells miles how to break barriers so miles can escape and break barriers between himself and other spiders, Hobie warns Miles to really understand what he's signing up for before fully committing to it, and he congratulates Miles when Miles saves Captain Singh fully knowing it's an event that's supposed to happen according to Miguel.
By the end of the movie we know Hobie is solidly a good guy, we know because he gives Gwen the watch to allow her to find Miles. this watch frees Gwen from the grips of the Spider Society, provides a means of communication, and a means of traveling where ever the good spiders need to go. Because we know that Hobie is a good guy, a hero we're meant to root for, we know that he can't oppose Miguel's ideology if any point in Miguel's argument were true or could be justified, even if Miguel doesn't know he's wrong.
The other thing I want to talk about here is Miguel's idea that Spiderman isn't Spiderman without having the trauma of losing someone important to them. Nicque Marina made an excellent video discussing her thoughts on this concept and how bullshit it is, and I very much agree with her.
The idea that we need Trauma/abuse to make us stronger has been a concept that has held our society, not just the Spider Society, for far too long, and it also isn't true. We see it in the movie with Miles 42, instead of becoming the hero he was "supposed" to be after the death of his dad, he became a very bitter angsty teenager. Having trauma from abuse or tragic events doesn't automatically make them a good person, there are plenty of serial killers and villains with traumatic backstories and pasts who prove this wrong.
If trauma doesn't make a Spiderman, then what does? The decision to not standby as there are problems only a Spiderman can handle actively happening. Spiderman doesn't need a death, they don't need the "great power, great responsibility" speech from their Uncle Ben or their stories' equivalent of him. What makes Spiderman a Spiderman as well as a hero is the realization, acceptance, and actions of knowing they have the power to do something so people don't suffer or die.
With that said, you can make a good argument that when the spiders join the Spider Society they stop being the spiderman they once were because they ignore one death that they can prevent. Heroes are not meant to look at something they know is bad, they know is suffering, and turn the other way to let it happen. As the lead of the Spider Society, Miguel actively and vehemently insists on the spiders knowing a death will happen and ignoring it. It's safe to say that in Miguel's pursuing of what he think's is right, he's forgotten what it means to be Spiderman, he has lost who he was.
TL;DR : Miguel is wrong about cannon events and the idea that you need to have trauma to be spiderman.
#across the spiderverse#spiderverse spoilers#miscellaneous thoughts#miguel o'hara#hobie brown#miles morales#pavitr prabhakar#Captain Singh#theory#atsv the spot
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Grace Gibbons (Islie Hirvonen) The Flash 5x22 Legacy (2019) 5/ 5
#islie hirvonen#grace gibbons#the flash#theflashedit#nocticola art#barry allen#caitlin snow#captain singh#david singh
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kidnappers of outer space, beware
#star trek#star trek tos#leonard mccoy#jim kirk#spock#mcspirk#bones mccoy#captain kirk#khan noonien singh#space seed#a piece of the action#bread and circuses#honestly love how many trek writers are just like let's kidnap mccoy#fun for the whole family#sometimes he talks his way out of it sometimes he gets rescued#they all get kidnapped once in a while it's fine#cyberphuck#tumblr things#things i found on tumblr#textpost meme#yes i am saying the line at the bottom like buffybot says#vampires of the world be-ware
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"What just happened? Why did I admit all that?"
#star trek strange new worlds#star trek#strange new worlds#captain pike#christopher pike#chris pike#anson mount#la'an noonien singh#christina chong#erica ortegas#melissa navia#nyota uhura#celia rose gooding#snw#st: snw#star trek: strange new worlds#subspace rhapsody#strange new worlds spoilers#snw spoilers#star trek strange new worlds spoilers#my edits
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STRANGE NEW WORLDS
2x07 // Those Old Scientists
#snw#strange new worlds#snw spoilers#those old scientists#lower decks#brad boimler#beckett mariner#la'an noonien singh#una chin riley#captain christopher pike#spock#d'vana tendi#sam rutherford#i was grinning like an idiot the whole while through this episode#aaaaHHHH i love it SO MUCH#star trek
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Found the layout on Insta n just had to make a TOS version.
#star trek#star trek tos#spirk#james t kirk#spock#jim kirk#tos spirk#captain kirk#nurse chapel#nurse christine chapel#montgomery scott#scotty star trek#hikaru sulu#sulu star trek#khan noonien singh#nyota uhura#uhura#tos uhura#doctor mccoy#bones mccoy#leonard mccoy#james tiberius kirk#pavel chekov#tos chekov#star trekkin#trekkies
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The "Strange New Worlds" bunch animated. (The art shift is blamed on the Orion drinks.)
#those old scientists#star trek#strange new worlds#lower decks#captain pike#una chin riley#uhura#m'benga#la'an noonien singh#spock#erica ortegas#christine chapel#animated#poster#star trek screencaps#cartoon#number one#orion hurricane
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It's Star Trek Day! In continuation of my collection of cast pieces, here's Strange New Worlds!
You can also check out the time lapse video of its creation on my YouTube channel, "Dave Doodles," here:
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#startrek #startrekstrangenewworlds #strangenewworlds #snw #enterprise #pike #captainpike #christopherpike #ansonmount #unachinriley #una #rebeccaromijn #nursechapel #christinechapel #jessbush #spock #misterspock #ethanpeck #mbenga #doctormbenga #babsolusanmokun #laannooniensingh #laan #la'an #la'annooniensingh #christinachong #uhura #nyotauhura #celiarosegooding #ortegas #ericaortegas #melissanavia #pelia #carolkane #kirk #jameskirk #paulwesley #hemmer #brucehorak And you can see my other cast pieces below:
Now, on to Discovery!
#star trek#star trek strange new worlds#strange new worlds#snw#enterprise#pike#captain pike#christopher pike#anson mount#una chin riley#una#rebecca romijn#nurse chapel#christine chapel#jess bush#spock#mister spock#ethan peck#mbenga#m'benga#doctor mbenga#doctor m'benga#babs olusanmokun#laan noonien singh#la'an#la'an noonien singh#christina chong#uhura#nyota uhura#celia rose gooding
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You know what would be a wild plot twist?
What if Pavitr was the one to save Miles' dad?
#because Miles saved Captain Singh when Pavitr couldn't#Now I can't stop thinking about this#pavitr prabhakar#miles morales#atsv#across the spiderverse
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As Klingons say
#star trek#star trek tos#the wrath of khan#james t kirk#captain kirk#jim kirk#khan noonien singh#star trek: tos#st tos#tos#space seed#star trek the original series#kirk#tumblr trash#shitpost#crack
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Kirk’s dubious driving skills being consistent across series 😂🙌
TOS 1x28
SNW 2x03
#Star Trek#snw#strange new worlds#star trek: snw#star trek: strange new worlds#tos#the original series#star trek: the original series#star trek: tos#la’an noonien singh#james t kirk#jim kirk#James Kirk#coolgenie#tos kirk#snw kirk#Star Trek crack#tos crack#snw crack#captain kirk#snw 2x03
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Bless the writers for giving Kirk his inherent romanticism and not the f*ckboy reputation that developed over time
#kirk just falls in love a lot haha#and others fall in love with him easily that charmer#hes the unattainable romantic#also casting wesley makes so much sense now#he also has some kind of romanticism about him#probably why they cast him as a lead of vampire romance series#star trek#star trek strange new worlds#star trek snw#tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow#jim kirk#james t kirk#captain kirk#ka’an#la’an#la’an noonien singh#paul wesley#christina chong
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"These Old Scientists" was a gem of an episode and an instant top 10 of my all-time favourite episodes.
I also do have a few thoughts about it!!
So in the SNW era, red/maroon is usually for red shirts/security officers, notoriously known for dying faster than carnival goldfish. In the LWD era red shirts are for the command division, meaning that Pike the entire time probably thought that Mariner and Boimler were just red shirts.
Which is so funny to think about, these two capable command division ensigns getting mistaken for being in the worst career path of Starfleet at the time.
What also was quite fun was the constant making fun of Mariner and Boimler's constant casual and very specific references in their conversation. And Boimler's failings in keeping future events to himself through these references.
My favourite part however was when Boimler basically insinuated that comphet Spock was just a fad and that Spock and Chapel are doomed to fail. I love Ethan Peck and Jess Bush but I cannot stand Spock and Chapel together it just feels weird and wrong.
Mariner being obsessed with Nyota Uhura was also so valid, Uhura is so cool and one of my favourite characters I too would only care about her.
OOH- and the fact that Boimler called the Enterprise out on their xenophobia when talking about the Orions was so iconic. Defending his friends and their backgrounds/cultures is such a Boimler thing to do.
All in all- 10/10 episode. I have been waiting for this episode ever since it was first announced and this episode was the only reason I started to watch SNW. I was not disappointed!!
#star trek#strange new worlds#star trek snw#st lwd#star trek lwd#star trek lower decks#bradward boimler#ensign mariner#ensign uhura#ensign boimler#nyota uhura#captain pike#una chin riley#la'an noonien singh#snw spoilers#snw spock#snw chapel#strange new worlds spoilers#the time difference between the two is so funny in a uniform context#so is everything#like the whole birthday/holiday thing was so cool#and the fact boimler couldn't keep accidentally revealing things was hilarious#everyone was great in this episode#we even saw rutherford and tendi which was very cool#i was kinda sad at first thinking we wouldn't see them#but we did!!! :D
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he just wants to boop you
(with a necessary hypospray)
#star trek#star trek tos#leonard mccoy#bones mccoy#april fools#happy april fools#april fools' day#april fools day#boops#jim kirk#spock#captain kirk#christine chapel#nyota uhura#hikaru sulu#pavel chekov#miri#the naked time#the immunity syndrome#the apple#lieutenant kyle#spceseed#john kyle#khan noonien singh#mirror mirror#city on the edge of forever#by any other name
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