#anti endos are ableist

[the-fictive-haven]

Here's your reminder that endos/willogens/tulpas/mixed origin systems/other multiples are literally just fucking existing and not hurting anyone and if you choose to go after them for that maybe you're the problem

[anti-endo-help]

you are not a system without trauma.

your system did not form for any reason other than trauma.

"non-traumagenic" isn't a thing.

"traumaendo" isn't a thing.

trauma survivors shouldn't have to clarify that they're "traumagenic" because people want to roleplay on the internet.

go fuck yourself if you think that "endos" are valid. my trauma isn't a label you can wear.

you can not be a system without trauma.

you can not be a system without trauma.

you can not be a system without trauma.

[ID: STOP! this blog is a strictly anti-endo space! pro-endos and endo neutrals, shoo! shoo shoo!]

[thehellsaint]

being an endo is some of the most white ppl shit I've ever heard 💀

wdym you're so privileged with spare time and energy that you roleplay being disabled to get chronically online social credit

[sotiredofendos]

A system is a collection of alters. Alters are chronically dissociated self states, with different neurological pathways that often are accompanied by a varying degree of amnesia. Dissociation is caused by stress/trauma. Alters are a byproduct of dissociating from trauma. You can’t dissociate from trauma you do not have. You cannot dissociate without trauma. You cannot have alters without trauma. You cannot have a system without alters.

You cannot be a system without trauma.

Do you have to know about the trauma ? No. Does it have to be a certain type of trauma ? No. Does it need to be a certain severity ? No. It just needs to have occurred during critical developmental period of the brain. Before the ego states have stitched together, it must be chronic, and beyond the child’s stress threshold, otherwise it will not disrupt the developmental growth. This is different for everyone. The reason trauma cannot be listed as a diagnostic criteria, is because there is no “xyz trauma that causes dissociative disorders”. It’s completely unique to each person suffering from the disorder. And in often cases, the person suffering from the disorder isn’t aware of their trauma. That’s the point of the disorder. This does not mean you don’t need trauma to suffer from a dissociative disorder. Systems are byproducts of dissociative disorders, you cannot be a byproduct of a disorder you do not have.

Endos are not systems. What do I mean by this? I mean that, by definition, that term is not suited for them, and is not meant to describe them. Just like kinning doesn’t mean you’re a system, just like roleplaying doesn’t mean you’re a system, just like religious practises such as tulpamancy isn’t a system. You are perfectly free to do whatever you please, truly. But do not compare it to being a system. You do not share our experiences. You are a different community entirely, and that’s ok.

But please, for the love of god, stop invading our community, and stop spreading misinformation about an already stigmatised and misunderstood disorder.

I understand if you didn’t know better. But please, educate yourself, and stop spreading this misinformation. Being a system isn’t an identity. It’s not a label. And please, stop comparing it to being queer. This is a mental illness. Being queer is not a mental illness.

[shattered-system]

Yes, punk is about going against the grain— sometimes

As in, discrimination against minorities is not punk

As in, abelism is not punk

Therefore endos aren’t punk

Hope this helps! ❤️

[candy-cloud-system]

Tw: syscourse ,

Endos DNI with this post.

Hot take; I shouldn’t have to be terrified to read / like posts. I should have to read the tags to make sure it’s not posted by an endo trying to infiltrate our spaces. I shouldn’t have to fear that the thing I’m gonna read is going to send me into a spiral because it’s gonna be some stupid ass shit about how “traumagenic systems are losers” or whatever the other stuff endos say about us is.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE AN ALTER WHO SITS OVER MY SHOULDER EVERY TIME I OPEN THIS APP THAT CAN PULL ME AWAY INCASE SOMETHING GETS BAD.

THAT SHOULD NOT BE A THING I, A TRAUMATIZED SYSTEM, SHOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHEN LOOKING FOR COMFORT OR SILLY CONTENT TO CHEER ME UP REGARDING THE TRAUMA FORMED DISORDER THAT WILL FOREVER MAKE MY LIFE DIFFICULT.

“Endos don’t hurt anyone🥺🥺🥺”

yes they fucking do.

- Sharkbite

[gremmything]

Alright let's review notes:

- if endos aren't disordered they don't belong in disordered spaces

- if endos have no trauma they don't belong in spaces made for people who do have trauma

- being a system is both a symptom of a disorder, and a disorder in and of itself, you cannot be a system without being disordered

- being a system is specifically a symptom of and a trauma disorder, therefore you cannot be a system without trauma(you do not have to REMEMBER the trauma. But it has to exist)

• side note: trauma does not have to be "severe" because trauma is subjective.

Thanks for coming to my tedtalk. Unless I see more content that pisses me off, hopefully this will be the last post I make on my syscourse spiel and I can continue using my time to hyperfixate on royale high

[ghxst-system]

"The future is plural" movement from endos is CONCERNING

regardless of the fact they do not believe you require trauma to be a system (medically impossible) this proves they want to groom kids into identifying as endo and spread their medical misinformation further.

as well as causing real systems to believe they dont have it bad enough to be "traumagenic" (the only "genic you can be. this language is bullshit im just using these terms to explain their shit), preventing them from getting real help. they are WIDELY anti-recovery.

their misinformation has ALREADY endangered real systems medically as they have made professionals skeptical of a medically proven disorder, a disorder that is already very stigmatised.

outside of just endogenic misinformation, this statement leads to the idea that they want to traumatise kids to make more systems.

ENDOS ARE FUCKING DANGEROUS

[sovereignsystem]

"We're all in the same boat no matter the origin" Wrong.

Fundamentally wrong. If I have trauma, and you don't we are not in the same boat.

-🧟‍♂️ (He/him)

[scratching-p0st]

Endos arent a part of syspunk bcause ableism isnt punk

[multiplesillylittleguys]

Is it just me or do endos just post the most surface level things about plurality??

I saw a post saying "Plural culture is having to explain to your friends why you sometimes don't remember things and act different."

Like sure that's true but it's like one of the most well-known things ever, it's been said hundreds of times.

It honestly strengthens my belief that these people really don't know what plurality is beyond Tumblr and maybe a Wikipedia page or two. It just makes it seem like they didn't put much effort into learning what plurality actually is beyond the most well-known things about it.

-Charlie and Kirill

(PRO/ENDOS DO NOT INTERACT WITH THIS POST.)

[cherrie-garden]

when will pro endos learn that when they break our dni, we're just gonna instantly block them. we aren't clicking your links. we aren't putting any of our time and effort into diving down your rabbit hole of misinformation and lies.

you can't be a system without trauma, deal with it.

-- Rin 🥽

[thehellsaint]

"sysmed" and "traumascum" are truly repulsive terms. The mental disorder you're cosplaying is, shocker, a disorder.

disorders are medical issues. just because you feel entitled to the parts of a disorder you find fun doesn't make the disorder less of a disorder.

[anti-endo-help]

i don't care if i get hate for this in any capacity, endogenic "systems," you're ableist pieces of shit and i hate you, so much.

you will never know the pain that real systems have to experience on a day to day basis. you will never understand the ramifications of having this disorder. you don't get it.

you'll never understand the panic attacks, you'll never understand the trauma responses, the flashbacks, the episodes, the suffering.

you'll never get it, because you're not a fucking system. you make a mockery of our pain, steal our terms, invade our communities, and further stigmatize an already heavily criticized set of disorders.

we do not want, nor do we need, you in this community. we want you out of our spaces.

i hope those of you who are genuinely faking this disorder and not just confused hate yourselves for the rest of your lives for doing something so fucking vile.

[ID: STOP! this blog is a strictly anti-endo space! pro-endos and endo neutrals, shoo! shoo shoo!]

[cardinal-bluejay]

If I see another endo crying about being anti endo is abelist. I will personally doxx you.

It’s not abelist to say you guys pretending to have an extreme trauma disorder is fucking disgusting and absurd.

It’s not punk to hate minorities. Also not punk to alienate and make fun of other groups. Meaning. You don’t get to pretend to have a trauma based disorder caused by (usually) sexual abuse.

Edit/ removed an immature comment I wrote.

[candy-cloud-system]

Hey just so you know. DNIs exist for a reason. If I have someone who is (Pro) Endo say absolutely anything to me, if that’s in comments, asks, dms or whatever. Don’t be surprised if I’m hostile back.

Respect my fucking DNI, and if you don’t, you don’t deserve MY respect. I will be rude, I will be pissy, I will say thing you don’t like and I won’t care if you call me a bitch! Thanks!

I try to be nice but I just don’t have patience or energy for people who go out of their way to interact whenever I’ve stated I DONT WANT THEM AROUND ME!

So fuck you endos, fuck off if you support endos, you’re not welcome on any of my blogs. I am allowed to be fucking pissed, and I’m allowed to hate you. Block me idgaf. You can’t have a traumagenic disorder without trauma!

Anyways um. To all my fellow traumagenic systems who have to deal with this stupid bullshit, here’s a picture of a random cat :3