#anti Hazbin hotel

[impperfectcritiques]

have you gotten the chance to watch saiscribble's 'the vivziepop hatedom is cringe' video?

saiscribble is a queerphobe/lgbtqia gatekeeping, racist, ableist pos.

I've watched her VODs and streams, and it always has odd ass points how "you can just tell if so-n-so is autistic because theyre ugly", or borderline terf rhetoric disguised behind being a "lesbian elder".

She also uses the terms "puriteen" unironically which that has me fucking ROLLING. She loves to call anyone under the age of 28 "children" or "kid", which is a sure fire way to get people to drop to their knees and respect you! totally!

She tone polices SA victims, specifically the alleged victim of her CONSTANT obsession. Like??? How can you tone police a CSA victim, how can you hate someone so much that you end up hating the people they personally victimized?? Not to mention she loves to commodify these experiences the victim has had, making fun of it in videos. She doesnt seem to understand that making fun of a perpetrator for inc/stous abuse also makes fun of the victim of inc/stous abuse.

She says the r-slur and n-slur. Mind you shes the whitest Gubbah, she makes my lack of melanin seem like a tropical tan. That said, she's highly offended at the word "Queer", which is hilarious because the word "Queer" has far less of a dark history and definition then any of the other slurs she loves to drop.

Her video on the 'hatedom' is just overlooking evidence and tone policing Limus, a SA victim. Plus some teasing and bullying of all of those shown within the video, including some random artists who redesigned the shows characters JUST FOR FUN.

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

I can even agree that Sauerkraut is not an oc of Vivziepoop, but saying that she didn't make nazi and cannibal ocs is not something i can agree with.

[cherrychillz]

Found this on Pinterest and I couldn’t have said it better. Plus, anyone who’s even SLIGHTLY opened a Bible knows that once you’re in hell, you can never leave smh

[littleweirdcunt]

The “there’s a ton of sex jokes and swear words because it’s literally set in hell” logic falls apart extremely quickly considering the same shtick is used in heaven.

[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"Not gonna lie, something that would give the cast a lot more personality is the way they speak. Take for example heaven's inhabitants, you'd think that because of heaven being this oh so special place that nobody would be able to swear or anything like that whilst up there, but nope, they swear. Honestly different ways of speech would help the cast stand out instead of every character saying something sexual or swearing every few seconds. I guess that's Viv's writing for you."

Submitted by @lunas-l1fe

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

Honestly, Hooray for Hell is the only good cartoon that presents us with hell as it is.

Here's some good Hazbin/Helluva critical videos I've seen (since it's so hard to find good ones on YT)

(Both are by GalXE!)

(Left one is by HezuReviews, right is by Autistic Swag!)

(Both are by Madeline Maye!)

(Both are by Cassidy Whiskey!)

Please go check these people out, all of them are extremely talented. Some of them even shared some insight and clever criticism into this series that I hadn't even thought of! (I especially like the Madeline Mayne ones as they poke into how both HB and HH fail at their queer representation.)

[the-mislead]

I hate Hazbin hotel and helluva boss so much and I actively avoid the fandom because of it but for some reason a ton of HH/HB stuff started to pop up on my feed so out of complete and utter malice I redesigned the two main wankers in HB

The bird will not get his hat back. Ever

[luminance-critic56]

Perfect idea!

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

And there's Sallie May who is the worst trans representation i've seen in my entire life, and Viv's stans have the same level as her.

Hello! I am currently trying to make a document including all evidence of Viv's problematic behaviour, and since you're quite popular in the critical community, I wanted to ask your opinion on the structure of it. If I missed anything feel free to correct me!

Vivziepop is a horrible person

I-early signs

-Nazi sausage party ocs (inspred by doctor Mengele, following a nazi blog

-drawing Kesha and glorifying her illness

-Zoophobia (contains the Addison drawings, Mirage being depicted as goofy when she's a pedo, Sahara and Latika designs

-supporting blaire white and Shoe0nhead (her too since Shoe has recently been revealed as a neo nazi)

-transphobia (discord messages)

-drawing Mimzi as a caricature/stereotype of Jewish people

II-Spindlehorse & twitter

-Raphielle shipping valangel, saying their a proshipper and still working on SH

-Following multiple proshippers, including someone who used audios of REAL kids for his digital CP and someone who actively ships Rick/Morty

-allowing and encouraging the harrasment of people who critique her shows to the point they are forced to come out or receive rape threats

-Blaming A24 for the lack of competent advertisement on Hazbin Hotel and replacing the voice cast

-encouraging harassing Erin Frost and Kendraw for coming out with their experience with her

-Studio reviews revealing the nepotism and abuse in the SH studio

III- The shows

-finn/ cole was made cis when he was originally trans

-sally mae only regarded by the fandom as a trap or futa, sexualised in every piece of her merch with her dick being emphasized to the point the fandom fetishizes her

-alastor being made creole or mixed as an afterthought, when Viv had already used real life voodoo symbols, very clearly inspiring alastor from Wendigos without any research, made him white as paper and depicted him as the 100th " asexual and aromantic person is an evil murderer!".

His asexuality and possible aromanticism is always ignored by the fandom in favor of shipping, and inclusive Vivziepop even said to do as they pleased with his sexuality for shipping.

-forced positivity, pushing the idea that even murderers, abusers and horrible people can change hazbin hotel

Depicting abuse (Crimson hitting Moxxie, the whole Valangel tag existing) and sexual assault (again woth Moxxie and angel) as funny jokes or sexy

-Noticing a pattern, Viv tends to promote M/M relationships a lot but depicts them as overtly sexual, predatory and toxic, and seems to have a problem with having "twink" characters abused sexually in a yaoi-ish way (Addison, Moxxie and Angel, Vox. Stolas/blitz too.)

-the only two people of color that are confirmed are Alastor, Velvette and Valentino. Velvette's color is very ashy and she is often infantilised (this might have more to do with her being a woman in Vivs eyes) she presents no POC features at all, neither does Valentino who is a stereotypical black man who is a pimp, abusive (sexually too) and has a short temper.

-using "it's hell " as an excuse to make horrible characters to glorify and depict as the true victim while doing nothing to become better. (Ex. Stolas is a rapist , Blitzo Sexually harrasses his co-workers and is very toxic, Alastor is a serial killer.) Depiction is not glorification, but Viv actively makes it seem like all of it is okay to do and has a show who has a very negative message that affects the viewers and fanbase into excusing disgusting shit.

-disrespecting religion by not accurately researching the demons she talks about

-Sexist writing in helluva and hazbin that favores males(Loona,Millie,Stella, Verosika)

-ableist language by Blitzo, refusal to acknowledge this and even joking about not being able to say a slur

-collaborates with Brandon Rogers,whose work is clearly sexist,racist,homophobic and ableist

-making fun of eating disorders (Moxxie)

-involving kesha in her show while she is trying to get justice for being abused and trying to recover, making the character she voices based on all the things she hated about herself

-included famous voice actors, pays thousands for them but actively underpaid and overworked her staff

-No trigger on an episode that contained Blitzo vomiting

-Barbie wire grooming a teenager is considered a joke (and the tweet doesn't count, we should be able to tell if the teen was actually older by his design or any line of dialogue, if those who don't have twitter won't know it means it's a problem)

-various incest jokes hinting at proshipping (Moxxie/Millie, and a rumor +dialogue cues hint at Andrealphus and Stella being in a relashionship)

-merch of almost all female characters being somewhat sexual

-depicting the Woman/Man as the only healthy relationship (Moxxie/Millie) while the queer couples are toxic (Chaz/Moxxie Blitzo/Stolas)

Holy shit that's a long read, I suggest you make that into a blog post or something. The only portion I can assume that you got correct is the third section. Most of the first two sections are spot on to me, but I am not sure if they're both completely correct because I'm not really aware of what Vivziepop did in the past, just what she has been doing since like last year. Sorry to disappoint, but it is pretty great from what I'm reading.

Modify it to what you think is best so that people will read from it and test read it yourself in case you got something wrong. I suggest you use Grammarly for grammar or spelling issues because even though English is my first language I still struggle with those

[impperfectcritiques]

https://www.tumblr.com/impperfectcritiques/774445583632105472/helluva-boss-pride-edit

Wow changing the identity of some characters because you don’t like their established sexuality? Some LGBT supporter you are.

Y'know its kinda funny

I actually only changed two-three sexualities, but I kept them m-spec [other then barbie]. Other then that all I did was change outfits and add further romantic types and genders. Seems like you're a reactionary who saw different flags and genders and got their panties in a bunch over nothing!

Changes I actually made:

Changed Verosika to Omnisexual to have more m-spec representation outside of pan and two bi people.

Made big buff man bi, once again coz of the significant lack of m-spec diversity [viv seems to slap pan onto any character she doesnt really care about sexuality wise]

Made millie intersex as it was a common headcannon when she had the white spot in her hair. Gave her rainbow nails! She's still a straight ally!

GAVE BLITZO SOME BLOODY CLOTHES SO HE ISNT BUTT NAKED! Made his outfit show off his pan pride.

Gave Stolas a cute outfit that suited his interests and personality more. His pants have a Carnation on them, which is representative of MLM/NWLNW love <3 [he also likes plants].

Kept Loona and Ocatavias sexualities the same. Octavia is Nonbinary, and Loona is trans! ooooo scary!!!

Barbie is a lesbian, as per common headcannon. ALSO gives her more difference from her twin brother + theres only ONE other lesbian in the show, so diversity :).

These queens are still pan, just nobinary and trans now :3

Asmodeus is still pan! He's also genderfluid! Also gave him a better outfit and top scars, oooo scary! Fizz is still gay, but he prefers the Achillean label and flag, hes also intersex and aroace! Gave ugly Andy a pride outfit. He's still gay, no changes. Tried to remove useless pervert Chaz and replaced him with our evil queen Stella! Shes Ace AND Sapphic! Note how she looks at the happy couple of Fizz and Ozzie, she wants something like that...

There we go! Hope you enjoyed! and I hope snowflake anon is pissed.

[wittebanee]

the vees redesign!!

I got bored and decided to keep the vees in my story

Theres Viridian, Circuit, and Jezebel! I’ll give them different names whenever I feel like it

[littleweirdcunt]

Hi there critics! Do you enjoy YouTuber GalXE’s videos on Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel? If not you should check them out right away!

If you already do, and you’re looking for people to talk about your opinions with, then you should join GalXE’s CREW, run by GalXE. A place for enjoyers of GalXE’s videos to share their opinions about Vivziepop’s shows, there are discussions going on daily, and we would love to hear your opinions added to the conversation as well! We also have other fun channels and exciting events going on as well, look at this video for a bit more info.

We surely hope to see you there and everyone is welcome, even if you think you don’t dislike HH and HB that much, we respect that and still hope you can join us. So, join with the discord link down below, and we hope to see you there!

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

Pokémon deserves a rewrite, while Trashbin Hotel and Helluva Smellbarfshit deserves to die.

I have another Vivziepop critical post to make. This time it is a VERY important post on stereotypes and how they cause harm to society. We will be looking at three parallel cases.

We all know Angel Dust being a harmful gay stereotype, right? Gay men have spoken about this, only to be shut down by Viv and her cult. Here is one of the complaints:

Remember the musical Pokémon Live? For those who don't know, it was a touring stage show from the 2000s featuring the characters from the original series (Ash, Misty, Brock, Team Rocket, ect.)

Well for those who don't know, James of Team Rocket was played by Andrew Rannells, a gay man. Well basically, in the musical, James was written like a stereotypical gay man (very familiar, right?) Years after the musical, Andrew did a video on his experience as the character in it and said some things that well, upset stans. Although he was grateful for the experience and being with the cast, he felt very uncomfortable being James and didn't want to offend anyone, thinking of all the queer kids who would watch it in person on on TV. During the pre-show he was thinking of making James different and not offensive like in the script, but the directors and the team said otherwise, that he needed to follow the script. His stress only worsened once the musical started touring. While explaining his experience, many stans harassed him, saying that he was "being sensitive and pretentious" and that he's "making it up". To those who sent him those hurtful comments, you are not a gay man who feels like he's invalidating his community and feels uncomfortable. He was also not criticizing the show or media, in fact, he's actually a fan of Pokémon. He was actually very grateful for the job, and that the enthusiasm of the kids made his day, and he was also grateful due to him being in a financial crisis before the show, which leads to the next parallel case: Kesha. For those who don't know, Kesha was Beelzebub in Helluva Boss. During the time, she was in a financial crisis and lucky for Viv, she was obsessed with Kesha and due to the crisis, was taken control of. Both Andrew and Kesha were also typecasted for superficial roles that don't reflect who they truly are. Kesha being seen as the mean white party girl and Andrew being seen as the stereotypical gay man. It's like if I, a pansexual woman, was casted as an "It's a hole it's a goal" character. I wish the best for them and I hope they do well moving on.

Best regards, Matcha

Here are the posts I found on the Angel Dust and James cases:

[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"Personally, I think Vaggie would have been a better protagonist. Like instead of a fallen angel (a plotline which I still hate) into a regular hell citizen who lived an horrid human life in a low class system and the "straight man" of the cast. It would focus on her past, her relationship with the hotel cast and her friendship/romance with Charlie."

Submitted by @teethgutss

[theloganator101]

A sneak peek of me going over Sai’s reaction to Limus’ video.

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

And they still treat her as if she were a victim of society.

I think it’s very telling that Vivziepop’s own stans get surprised when you tell them that she was not a teenager when when her problematic behavior (like the Sausage Party Nazi OC’s, defending Blaire White and drawing fanart of her in blackface and mocking Black Lives Matter) started. They seem to think she was 17-19 when that shit happened when she was 24. Her frontal lobe was almost fully formed. That just proves how immature her behavior is when even her own stans think that she’s younger than she actually is.Shes 31 years old and still throws temper tantrums like she’s 13.