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While I do find it funny that henchmen in Gotham probably warn each other about the Red Hood because he's a bat who will actually kill you. I think it would be better if Jason was actually seen as some sort of savior or idol to like 90% of the goons scattered around Gotham. Doesn't matter who they work for, they all know Jason, former crime-lord that took over majority of Gotham's underground in one night.
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Jason, years after the events of UTRH, now fighting crime alongside the batfam, except every goon he runs into immediately recognizes him, stops fighting, and starts begging.
the first time it happens, Jason assumes they're begging for their lives only to hear them begging for him to return to the crime lord business so they can work for him and not Gotham's current money-stingy, abusive rogues (Black Mask lol)
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Jason showing up to patrol as backup for Dick in an overrun warehouse full of Two-Face's henchmen and as Jason's about to interfere, one of the men stops dead in their tracks and stares really hard at Jason until:
Goon: Oh my God, boss, is that you?
Jason, pulling out his guns, about to shoot:
Goon: Mr. Hood, sir???
Jason, halfway about to pull the trigger: Wait a min–Jeremy? Oh wow, it's been ages! How's the wife?
Goon (Jeremy): Oh my God it IS you, holy shit where have you BEEN? Me and the guys miss you, man!
Dick, with a knife at his throat: What is happening right now
Jason: Ahh, well, crime-lording just wasn't fitting in on the daily schedule. Tryna turn over a new leaf and all that
Goon (Jeremy): Aw, that's disappointing. We really liked working for you, right guys?
[Chorus of enthusiastic "YEAHS" from the rest of the henchmen (even the one holding Dick at knifepoint)]
Goon (Jeremy): Well, anyways, I can't beat you up knowing you're my old boss! You gave us the best health benefits! We'll just let you take the evidence and leave.
Jason: Aw, thanks guys :)
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And that's why 95% percent of Jason's missions in Gotham end in success. Not because he's willing to kill people or because rogues are terrified of him, but because 90% of the rogues' henchmen once worked for Jason and fuckin love him lol.
#jason: are you sure your boss wont be mad?#jeremy: he's only mad like 50% of the time im sure we'll be fine#jeremy: also we hate working for him.#jason todd absolutely treats his employees well u cant convince me otherwise#dick after the mission: the HELL was that??#jason fondly: just my goon children. im so proud of them for moving onto weapons trade instead of drug dealing :)#dick: that man was older than you. pretty sure most of them were older than BRUCE#jason: dont disrespect my family like that.#dick: Jason IM your family. i was literally held at knifepoint during your little reunion and you did NOTHING#jason todd#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#batfam#batfamily#batkids#batbros#dc comics#incorrect quotes#headcanon#crack#fanatical posting
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The leftism/anticapitalism leaving people's bodies the zeptosecond you imply that disabled people who aren't "productive" still matter in society and need to be treated like intrinsic equals who have a place in this world:
#disability#disability advocacy#described images#image description in alt#ableism#ableism tw#my full-time job is my disability and you're lucky that i am still 'productive' as-is#your boss doesn't care that you think you're superior for being hired by them. they're still going to treat you like profit machines#it astounds me how people will capitulate for oppression because they place their intrinsic value in their ability to be at the top...#...or at least 'at the top' compared to others. it's the same impulse that makes people think their cisgender status makes them superior...#...you are placing your worth into systems which not only oppress others but offer you no true sense of worth...#...ESPECIALLY if you're also being exploited (even if just a bit)...#...you have a job sure but... do you actually get treated like a human being? are you actually paid? are you actually safe?...#...if the answer to any of those questions and more is 'no' then why do you place your value in capitalistic production. genuinely.#and why would you DEMAND disabled people to have the same exploitation you experience. why do you DEMAND productivity if you are proletaria#yes being a leftist and anticapitalist are linked but. some people still internalize capitalism without questioning it#being a leftist is about challenging that rather than assuming you're correct i think#also scientists were very silly when describing time that's like. less than a millisecond i think
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*catboys ur shounen protag*
#my art#jujutsu kaisen#jjk#itadori yuuji#yuji itadori#yuuji#fanart#jjk fanart#boss shes drawing shirtless catboys.............#listen i just bought the mewji plush ive been in a Mood ok#u all can forgive me im sure#i rly liked the original mewji sketch that i did last night but fr some reason when i went to clean it i could not get th expression??#it just looked so off and kind of uncanny and not like yuuji at all#so i scapped it :) hes less scrunchy faced now#also. gomenyasai i am still guilty of doubling up on human/cat ears....#espECIALLY with a haircut like yuujis it is beyond me how to omit them#if anyone can make it work u r a better artist than i#anyway im so happy the trend of like. putting ur ref pic next to the finished piece exists#adds a lil layer of visual interest i think !!!#plus i for one think its neat seeing what other ppl use fr ref#i realized while drawing this tht its been a minute since my last boy without a shirt on#every time i get to draw torso muscles i am like i shld do this more often !!! and then i never do#bc the only thing i like more than rendering muscles is a cute fit GHJFJHFGSHg#anyway itadori mewji ladies and gays enjoy <3#i have ! places 2 b !#'why were u late' . uh .
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Don’t have anything for today, so have this tweet from almost a month ago
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Oh wow I have not checked these two in forever. Alice would absolutely dunk on musk like this lol. And of course Compass just trying their best.
Just checked through the rest, my personal faves are Alice being perceptive
And Compass just being polite
#asks#alice already beat up gengar tho#and gengar did save them against team lighthouse so i think they're mostly chill#but alice would still probably make jokes like this anyway lol#the entire cheetah thread wouldn't fit on my screen#original tweet got deleted but it's pretty clear from context#gotta be good at spotting things like that if you want to survive#and the typo just kinda feels right lol#alice would be casual about typing#i actually didn't see the cheetah at first#even with the zoom in#and then compass being polite and saying hello to the puppy#they saw 'don't scroll without say hello'#and they were just like 'on it boss'#it'd be RUDE to just scroll past!
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Y'know, I think I figured out why the Hells still feel like a new low-level party to me, even though they're level 13 and almost 100 episodes in.
I don't quite think it's the lack of conversations, or the fact half the party's plot hooks are big ties to past campaigns - though that definitely plays a part.
... Bell's Hells still primarily rely on quest givers.
Most of their goals are given to them and do not feel organic to the party, and constantly remind us that the Hells are pretty much never the most powerful people in the room. Which is usually something you see with a low-level party.
NPCs offering jobs is not a bad thing; it's a very common plot hook. Matt has been extremely skilled with using NPC quest givers in those two campaigns. Not only do they provide an obvious plot thread, but they can put the party in the path of others (say, the Nein running into the Iron Shepherds while doing a job for the Gentleman and everything that came of that). And the Hells had a solid start with it too - Eshteross was an excellent quest giver!
The problem is that Bell's Hells have never really not had a quest giver.
Maybe it's a byproduct of the more plot-heavy structure of this campaign? But while prior parties have felt like they decided on their course of action and what they prioritized, Bell's Hells feels less like level 13 (13! Level 13!) experienced adventurers and more like an MMO group clicking on the exclamation point over an NPC's head. Where does the plot demand we go next? Who do we report back to?
They're level 13.
At level 13, Vox Machina had just defeated a necromantic city-state to clear their name and Percy's conscience. And, you know, the Conclave just destroyed Emon. No one was explicitly telling the group to gather Vestiges and save the world (though Matt guided them there), and they were usually among the most powerful people in the room. They chose which Vestiges to prioritize, which dragons to tackle when, even if the over-all plot was pretty clear.
At level 13, the Mighty Nein were celebrating Traveler Con (another PC goal, I'll note) after brokering peace between two nations, accidentally becoming pirates and heroes of the Dynasty. The Nein regularly chose what to do based on personal goals, not grand ones. Though definitely smaller fish than Vox Machina at this level, they were very independent and gaining solid political clout.
While we're at it: level 13 is one level lower than the Ring of Brass, who had a huge amount of sway over Avalir. They ended the world, and also saved it, while in the grand scheme of things being only a smidge more powerful than Bell's Hells are now.
Can you really see the Hells wielding that amount of influence, when they're constantly being told what to do next?
The god-eater might be unleashed, so Bell's Hells have no time to do anything but what is asked of them. No time for therapy unless stolen from Feywild time, no travel on foot and late-night watches. They haven't even had time to grieve FCG. Percy was grieved in the middle of the Conclave arc. Molly was grieved when half the party was still in irons.
Matt is in the very unfortunate spot of not being able to give the Hells the same agency as the other two parties. Not only because of the world-ending plot introduced so early on; they are surrounded by characters they know (and the cast knows) are stronger and wiser than them - the familiarity of the past PCs and NPCs is to their disadvantage.
Why would the party reasonably ignore Keyleth's task that will help save the world and go off on a romp? Why would the cast when they know well Keyleth has to be sensible and with the best intentions in mind? The stakes are just too high.
It means that the Hells still feel like they're running errands instead of pursuing their own destiny. Their accomplishments are diminished as just being parts of a to-do list, and any stakes feel padded by several level 20 PCs/NPCs standing 5 steps away ready to catch them.
This isn't Bell's Hell's fault, nor is it Matt's. It could be amended, I think, if the Hells are really left to their own devices for a long period of time without support and shortcuts (like during the party split)... which would be really tricky to pull off at this point in the campaign.
They're level 13. They're big fish, but they're stuck in a pond full of friendly sharks, so they don't feel big at all.
#critical role#campaign 3#bells hells#cr meta#critical role meta#the percy's conscience thing is half a joke. i love him but man he rlly went there just for the Vengeance. this isnt about him tho#to quote burr: we rlly spent the entire campaign on imogen and orym's backstories and everything else is sidequests#it's just. god. the constant hand-holding paired w the fact there's no TENSION from the fact they're taking the orders#the Nein were allergic to quest givers partially bc they rightfully didn't trust them. But the cast and audience trusts Keyleth and co 100%#it feels like you could put any other characters in this group and Of Course they'd still do roughly the same things on a macro scale#i love Orym and Liam's intent behind the character. but i. think it all boils down to his strong connection w Keyleth ;;#because of Course he'd reach out when things got bad. and of Course they would turn to her for advice.#the other three parties mentioned could Say Things and they would get Done. kinda iffy for the Nein but they could still boss ppl around#who can the Hells delegate smaller tasks to? ask to spy for them? deal with arcane batteries? no one! Because they ARE the small guys!
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Don't feed the crows. .. Why not? Inej, Kaz / Six of Crows (c) Leigh Bardugo
#six of crows#leigh bardugo#inej ghafa#kaz brekker#inej x kaz#book art#illustration#book of the year for me I think. I really liked it!#I don't know why the characters were so young tho. I kept getting whiplashed reading their descriptions like -#'she's around 40 maybe... hmm no 17 it seems' and 'ah yes a 30-something guy! who's also 17. perfect.' I just don't think it was needed.#but I still thought they were interesting characters and the story was fun to follow along.#shortly after I finished reading the book we got a copy of it in the store. just. chilling. in the bottom of a box.#it's so rare that we get good fantasy and then it just happened to be this specific one??#sadly it was printed in my first language (cringe) but my boss bought it for her daughter so all's well!
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Me 2 years ago: i love the bonds the demigods share with each other & some with Radagon/Godfrey/Rennala, but it’s kinda sad no one seems to be particularly insane about Marika :(
Fromsoft pre-heating Messmer in the oven: hey-
this image has changed the trajectory of my life
like, it might not be apparent before but i've never been normal about Marika for one bit... so a demigod with a whole ass giant statue of her cradling a baby in his boss room (also, that's the most LOVING depiction of Marika so far in the entire game) + the first one to outright calling her Mother ?? M A N
also all the “unwanted child” thing is pure fan speculation so far. no one in canon is saying he's unwanted. yes he carries all the symbols that are against the Erdtree but have you considered ...... they are trophies ....... of all the forces he had slayed to protect his Mother ...... how about that .........
EDIT to add that the throne he’s sitting on in the poster is actually also in the boss room, it’s just tiny af against the gigantic Marika statue behind it.
What’s his deal that is so insane … just a lil guy chilling in front of a colossal statue of his mom cradling baby him
#the weapon that the fire giants were impaled with bear resemblances to his spear... *stare*#not them microwaving Marika's “mom's best boi” for 2 years#like at first i still wasn't sure if his mom is really Marika#but that twitter user doing god's work and just expose da statue in his boss room aksfkajf#also in Japanese interview Miyazaki outright said he's “Marika's child” like hell IM NOT NORMAL#er brainrot
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It started back when he was 16.
His parents found out about him and Vlad thanks to the fruitloop being an idiot and practically outing them both. Danny was so lucky that he had planned for a situation like this. He had go-bags ready with a few changes of clothes, a thermos, some weapons, a star projector, lots of money from Sam and enough medical supplies to make a hospital jealous.
It was a good thing too, after crippling the GIW and destroying all the gear they and the Fentons had they destroyed their research and everything ghost related. Vlad at this point was already dead so he wasn't much of a concern.
Dannys had landed in an alley in a new dimension, only problem now was the parting shot his mother gave him on his back. Due to the placement of it Danny couldn't reach to treat it properly and he didn't know anyone in this dimension who could help him.
Thats when his ghost sense went off. He groaned, hoping he wouldn't have to fight a new ghost in this state when a man in a red helmet (Mask?) walked up to him and motioned for peace.
"I'm not going to hurt you." The man said gently, "I just wanna look at that injury, maybe help."
Danny stared at him. He didn't feel anything off about the guy and Danny prided himself on being a good judge of character. "Okay." He scooted himself around so his back was exposed to the stranger.
"Wow, you're really not from around here." Danny stiffened, had he been tricked? The man made no moves to hurt him, just got to work tending to his wound. The man was swift, and aside from the slight sting of an ointment he didn't recognize there was no pain at all.
Once Danny was all patched up the guy made to leave, "Wait!" Danny called out and the man halted, "Who are you?" The man turned his head to look back at him, still facing away from him, "Red Hood."
As it turned out, Red Hood was the new up and coming crime lord who everyone was talking about. He came seemingly out of nowhere and was making a lot of waves in Gothams underbelly. Gotham...so this was Dannys new haunt.
Danny wanted to protect it but...he wanted to protect Red Hood even more. So when he heard about Red Hood forming a gang he made a decision. He gathered up materials to make his own supervillian outfit- basically an all black outfit with a long hooded coat and combat boots- and to add the finishing touch he put on a all white gas mask that he had made himself, complete with a voice modulator, night vision, heat vision, etc. If Hood ever wanted him to prove it was him he could make his mask glow using his ghost powers. Not that it was needed. Hood seemed to be able to sense him in a similar way that Danny could but in a much much smaller range.
With that being said, hoods men didn't trust him at first, which was fair considering he just started randomly appearing at their operations and helping them out...by force usually. They weren't sure what to make of him but Danny didn't want to go through the usual goon enlistment process as Hood would want to know his name and face and everything else and Phantom was...well a phantom.
Danny liked to hide, even in plain sight. He couldn't deny the little game of cat and mouse they had was fun. Hood would try to follow him home or track him or get him to take off the mask and Phantom would dodge his attempts every time.
It took a while, but Red Hood did eventually come to trust him, going so far as to make Danny his right hand man after 3 years of working together, though that may also be because he had rarely failed any of the tasks Hood had given him.
Maybe thats why he never told any of the bats about him. He had picked up that there was something between Hood and the bats but he never could figure out what it was without prying into his bosses personal life. Still, it was rather shocking when Red Hood showed up one day with a large red bat symbol splayed across his chest.
It also made him look at how freaking chiseled his boss was. He couldn't count how many times he had to drag his eyes away from his abs and chastise himself for thinking that way.
Danny was in love with a man whos face he would never see. But that was fine. He was happier standing by this man's side and yearning than he ever was back in Amity and it wasn't like Hood knew his face or name either.
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He felt like a halfa though an incomplete one. He had a core but it felt hollow, like the soul was forcibly removed somehow and only emotions remained. Hood gained a bad reputation for flying into a monstrous rage but was always calm when Danny was near, a fact that even Red Hood himself seemed to pick up on.
Hood began to fall for his second in command pretty quickly, always trying to feed him and take care of him (as is his love language) while Danny was openly obsessed with assuring Hoods safety and well being even going so far as to use his powers (that no one knows about) to overshadow a computer and hack into the bats systems to make sure Hood was okay after a prolonged period of him being MIA.
The bats are freaked but Danny being Danny gets lucky and they always seem to miss his trail by a hair. Lucky ghost.
Things start going sideways when Fenton tech starts showing up in this new dimension only for Danny to find out his parents have remade the portal and are looking for him. The bats are being hunted by his parents and and the now rogue government agency the GIW. Danny tries to explain things to Hood without compromising his own secrets but once the newest Robin gets captured and Hood freaks Danny puts everything on the line to go rescue the stabby bird.
#dead on main#fanfiction prompts#prompts#dp x dc#batman#danny phantom#danny fenton#i just want danny in hoods gang so bad#the gang adores thier boss#robin#damian wayne#danny sends a goon to red robin to politely asked about red hood when he hadnt been seen in a while#rr is confused but confirms hood is fine but off with some other antiheros atm#the goon very politely thanks him and is off on his way#rr is just like: huh that happened#danny is very sneak: 100 in this#when dannys parents inter the scene they have a wanted poster of phantom that is just a stick figure drawing#in thier defence all the pics they had were destroyed in team phantoms purge#damian is very angry and embarrassed to have been captured by these loons#this idea fought me tooth and nail and i still hate how it came out
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Can I just say real quick, that I want to mourn the fact that we’ll never hear a Vivziepop female character talk vulgar about her vagina. Like, you know it’s true. How come her male characters can constantly joke about their dicks and have a lot of dirty sex jokes revolving around them but her females get nothing (outside of being called sluts and whores that is.) Like if you want your show to be edgy and raunchy at least go all out. I say this because Hazbin is getting real close, and I’m not expecting ANY vulgarity with Charlie and Vaggie, Viv’s only wlw couple. No sex jokes, no roughly kissing or anything, none of that. Of course I’m not saying they can’t be anything BUT sex jokes, but I am saying that it is extremely telling that all of Viv’s mlm characters can be open and dirty about themselves but Charlie and Vaggie are reduced down to just being gentle and soft. At most I’m expecting things like hand holding and kisses but that’s it, and it really does suck like…let your female characters be vulgar about their bodies too. (Outside of being slut shamed)
#Charlie and Vaggie are going to be boring btw I just know it sorry#like I have the feeling they’ll be written the same way they were in the pilot honestly#vivziepop critical#spindlehorse critical#helluva boss criticism#helluva critical#anti vivziepop#Hazbin critical#hazbin hotel critical
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Pose practice! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ
#these were actually pretty fun to do! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶#lmk sun wukong#lmk macaque#lmk mk#lego monkie kid#lmk fanart#digital art#my art#I tried making mk’s outfit a mix of the two#shadowpeach#sorry Hetalia followers I have been on a wukong kick lately 😔#I like that little monkie man…#not just Lego but in general#yo I might do the black myth one next cuz that final boss had me giggling and kicking my feet#I literally looked like this 🤭 had to stop myself like GIRL GET UP. HAVE SOME DIGINITY 😭😭😭#either that game studio did not think about people with degradation kinks or they thought way too much of em#that boss was disreSPECTful#is young sage x og wukong a thing? if not they don’t call me a creator for nothin#it’s basically just clone fuckin to em anyway I’m pretty sure every iteration of wukong has done that already#including the jttw one#bet those parties on flower fruit mountain got fucking WILD#anyway here’s mk and his dads sorry bout the ramble :)#love that four ears headcanon for him that’s big brain#family bonding activity can just be one guy and his two divorced dads he’s trying to parent trap by himself#no I forgot their masks… o(-( cuz I usually just color them in…..no..
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"Who is Ai Di to you?"
Nat Chen as CHEN YI KISEKI: DEAR TO ME (2023)
#kiseki: dear to me#kisekiedit#kdtm#kiseki dear to me#ai di x chen yi#chen yi x ai di#nat chen#chen bowen#louis chiang#chiang tien#jiang dian#uservid#userspring#userspicy#userrain#userjjessi#usernuria#*cajedit#*gif#flashing gif#GREAT question zherui. the answer is. everything! hope this helps <3#kk and i talked a ton about chen yi last night and we were saying#that there is a very specific part of both chen yi and ai di that cant fathom not being their whole selves in front of each other#even when their feelings are buried deep they cling to each other cuz being without the other is like missing your other half#but then also. they're too close to each other to see what's really there (specifically from chen yi's side of things)#he cant imagine not being honest with ai di but its in such a way that he still doesnt know how to identify the source of what he's feeling#because...it's ai di.#and it's Always chen yi and ai di. thats just what their lives are LIKE.#so it's easier to not put much thought into it. to fixate and project those feelings on their boss.#but it was never gonna last!! ...everyone say thanks ai di for the pain. it was needed </3
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Some submas doodles to show that I’m still in fact alive and that these silly train men are still invading every train of thought
#pun intended#I have more#like wayyy more#but I either think they’re not good enough or are too embarrassing to show#anyways I do have more ideas I’m cooking#like some designs on when they were younger#art#my doodles :d#doodle#submas#submas emmet#submas ingo#subway boss ingo#warden ingo#subway master emmet#subway boss emmet#subway master ingo#pokemon#pokémon#pkmn bw#pkmn b2w2#pkmn la#pkmn legends arceus#I have so many Ideas for these guys#I just can’t draw them all :(
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"Awwww poor bwitz! Finally having to own that his actions affect other people's feefees!"
"The worst part is you still make me feel like a bad person for being anrgy at you now."
Girl no. You have every right to hate him. He bailed on her and robbed her because she told him she loved him. Verosika deserves so much better. She desvers someone that loves her back.
Verosika was honestly the best person to give Blitz this wake up call. Realising how much he HURT her and broke her heart made him feel bad. He knows he needs to do better now.
Verosika was so mature about this too. A lot of people would have just slapped him, but she actually talked to him. She may not forgive him (she doesn't have to.) But she knows he's not evil, just an asshole. He CAN change. She won't let her hate for him stop her from making that clear in her conversation.
She's also a good friend to Stolas when he needed one. Love you girl. ❤️
#helluva boss#verosika mayday#Verosika Helluva boss#blitzo helluva boss#stolas#Verosika charecter developed is aaaaaa <3#apology tour#love that she said this after the “this is hell” excuse too#yes they are in hell but they were born there#they can't change that they are just trying to get by#its no excuse to be a dick#espicaly if your born there and not a sinner#sinners can at least use it as an EXPLANATION not an excuse#like “i was shit on earth. Everyone here is shit. why bother changing?” type mindest#not an excuse but it makes sense#you cant really use being born in hell as a one size fits all excuse for hurting people#blitz really needed to know that#like “are you expecting sympathy??”#Blitz i love you but you broke her heart and stole from her#helluva boss apology tour
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i can't believe the show about characters being gay and problematic won't let the characters be gay and problematic
#yes this is about nandor and guillermo and the latest interview#i mena it's fine i won't tell the writers how to write their show#but also it felt so much like they were preparing them to be the next pam and jim#don't be mad at me for sowing what YOU planted#the show is still queer and gay and amazing but i feel kinda “queerbaited” ngl? shipbaited?#just the reasoning being he's his boss like the characters haven't canonically done worse#AND them not being in such unbalanced position anymore#foggy thoughts#still love the show#just a little disappointed#maybe it's just easier for the continuity idk#nandermo#wwdits
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Day 26 - Dragons
Depot Agent Ingo and Axew are reporting for duty!
#pokemon#submas#ingo#nobori#subway boss ingo#axew#month of ingo#sept ingo#Month of Ingo#Sept-Ingo#It's fun imaging what Ingo and Emmet's lives were like before they became Subway Bosses!#To think that cute little Axew on his shoulder would one day become a powerful Haxorus that always knocks out Emmet's Eelektross lol#Haxorus is definitely one of my favorite dragon types! I just love its design and how strong it is in battle!
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been haunted for weeks by the knowledge that jason todd's absolute favorite artist before he dies, age 14, in the year 2014, is yeezy. he's out there with the gargoyles blasting beautiful dark twisted fantasy and watch the throne on his ipod touch. again, he is 14, and his feelings are valid and powerful. six years later he's finally getting back in touch with popular culture and tim's like i have to tell you something. sit down. please. this is--sit down. i needed to tell you before you found out otherwise. we had to cancel kanye. do you--okay you don't really know what cancelling is. well, it's not so unlike what happened when you came back from the dead and tried to kill me and we--wait we're not done talking about kanye, in 2016 he endorsed
#batman#dc#joke tm tm tm emma also this was just one part of a evening-long discourse on who among the batkids loves bruce springsteen enough#to earn jason's respect#we were like well who else does he love besides the boss. he was born in 2000 it's not just the boss#what did moody kids born in 2000 listen to age 11 to really feel their feelings if they weren't listening to indie#and the answer revealed itself.#you have to imagine jay takes it pretty hard
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