#and silco defenders

[zeddylux]

It's a full time job blocking Silco and Caitlyn defenders 🫤

[unknown-cold]

Amanda (writer of Arcane) said: (She's asking Cait for the impossible. But that's what grief does to you🖤)

Even the writers and actors explain the impossibility of the situation, and these kids still don't get it.

These people literally forgot what Caitlyn went through and are now calling her a fascist cop and a dictator. Just bc she wants revenge on the person who ruined her life and also wants to protect her people.

[justareallyboredfangirl]

the fact that the intention was for Sevika to actually get to unwrap her new arm..

[ysaona]

[arcanegifs]

ARCANE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS: 1x04 - "Happy Progress Day!" ↳ "It wasn't a mishap, she froze up and lost her sh¡t. I could've handled those brats. She's a problem and we all know it."

[monostardust]

*sighs* Silco, Silco he's, he was a good father to Jinx yeah I mean sure not perfect but he did everything he could to raise and stabilize Jinx's fragile and chaotic mental stability the way he knew how. Silco sees himself in Jinx but he knows she's far more troubled than him. He tries to help her overcome her trauma the only way he knows how by telling her how he overcame his. He's not perfect he's most definitely not the ideal father but for a villain I gotta give credit where it's due. Unlike other villains he actually loved and cared for Jinx. She's his baby, the only one he has a soft spot for. He really loved that little girl, his daughter, the one he trusted the most, his only successor. I also think he was similar to Jinx with how he despised Vi like how Jinx despised Caitlyn. Silco hated Vi thinking she's just like Vander, a traitor, someone who abandoned Jinx. I guess that's why he wanted her dead. In his mind he really thinks Vi is nothing more than that, that she's just someone who'll continue to hurt his kid and that's why she gotta go.

[no-longer-in-the-laboratory]

Although Caitlyn Kirraman does kinda fit the trope of the "good cop" (aka 'guys even though they're a cop they're one of the good ones I swear 🥺') a bit, I personally think she's kind of the opposite in a way? Caitlyn is a Bad Enforcer, which is what makes her such a compelling character.

Think of it this way, What is an Enforcer's job in piltover? To enforce. To make the citizens of Zaun complacent through fear, and to make non-ruling citizens of Piltover complacent through a manufactured sense of safety. They don't serve the people, they serve the council. Their job isn't to do what's right- it's to follow orders.

Caitlyn doesn't do any of these things. The events of the show kick off in the first place because she wasn't following orders. She gets in trouble with Marcus because why? She left her post to investigate the ship and she actually helped a man who was wounded by Jinx. She used Jayce's new position in the council to directly go against both her parents and Marcus's orders and she gets Vi out of prison in order to find Silco, who she intends to track down because he's actively hurting the people. She does things for the sole reason that they're the right thing to do.

Caitlyn is a bad Enforcer, and that's a good thing because the Enforcers aren't a good thing to be apart of.

I feel like a lot of the "good cop" trope boils down to "this cop is good because they serve their community by following orders" and the "bad cop" boils down to "this cop is bad because they do illegal things. they arrest people unfairly, and they disobey orders." When cops are meant to fit arrest quotas that are often filled through unfair arrests. A narrative that wrongly assumes that the system is irrelevant, and that there's only a few bad apples out there abusing their power, and if only we could just get rid of those bad apples, everything would be fine, right?

"if only there were more enforcers like Caitlyn" isn't a sentiment that anyone watching the show should be having, that's like saying "If only there were more members of the sith like (insert name of someone who betrayed the sith here)"

Tldr: Caitlyn isn't a good enforcer, and that's a good thing because Enforcers are awful, and they're supposed to be awful, because it's their job to be awful. God I hope this makes sense and isn't just a ton of word salad.

[papaiyatree]

today i repeat that you can enjoy a bad villainous or a morally vague antihero character without "defending them" and just liking them because they're interesting

[feelingthedisaster]

hot take: old silco is hotter than young silco

[violent-viscera]

comments defending jayce i saw bc im so over jayce slander.

[thewistlingbadger]

I will defend Silco forever. If my brother beat the shit out of me, almost murdered me by DROWNING, and in my eyes gave up on Zaun even though our friend wanted us to free it; I would start hitting and bitting. Seeing him young and happy was so 😭🥲

Indeed! I'm writing a post about this atm but I'll share some of my thoughts here.

We (the vast majority of the fandom) always thought that Silco was this fucked up guy, some going so far as to call him creepy and evil. I've always been a silco fan from day one bc I found him to be very entertaining, the fucked-upness was a part of it. Plus I really loved his relationship with Jinx. Never did I once think of who Silco could have possibility been prior to vander or the falling out. Based off what we saw of him and how he mirrors others, I personally assumed that yeah, he was always a bit unhinged. He felt slited by everyone and he wanted to prove them wrong, and he had an unlikely ally on his side.

Never in A MILLION YEARS did i think there was a possibility that he was once a good guy or a normal guy. That didn't cross my mind not once. The fact that that's what saw in the flashback is GUT WRENCHING and changes everything. I've always sympathized with him bc it was clear he had a lot going on plus his own mental issues but MAN am i more on his side than ever and i have so many questions. I always thought that the falling out had been gradual, that the fight could have been seen a mile away. But now i can't help but wonder if it was like that at all. What if silco didn't see it coming? What if it felt like an ambush? Imagine how terrible he must have felt to have this friendly face become the face of his soon-to-be murderer. AND if he truly is, accidentally, the cause for Felicia's death than imagine how he felt about that. The only person who could have possibly understood the lose turned on him. and THEN i think about the implications this has on his daughter and vi...

Imo, even if Silco is at fault for the bridge, the falling out, fucking anything, he had the right to defend himself. Vander is a gigantic man who's skilled in the arts of fighting. Silco is a twig who only fights dirty. He wouldn't have stood a chance. He also had every reason to hate Vander. Vander betrayed him, tried to kill him, gave him a permeant injury that impacted silco's life AND impacted the way people saw silco, gave him major scarring, major trauma, failed the undercity/the cause/ HIM, and filled his heart with rage.

[unknown-cold]

Some people be missing vital points of your post about people forgiving jinx but not Caitlyn. Just because she’s a rich nepo baby, doesn’t make her trauma any less significant than jinx’s. Like wtf. That’s shit I’m sick of. Mental illness and grief don’t stop because you have money. Ppl have an understandable anger towards privilege but i think it’s warped some of their perceptions of the show. Both Caitlyn and jinx’s reactions to trauma/grief are realistic, neither better or worse than the other. I’m more interested to see the end game for both of those characters and how they manage that grief/trauma in the long run. I have my thoughts on how they will mirror Cait and Jinx’s endings to reflect that

Say it LOUDER!! 🗣🗣

And you know what's worse than that is when I saw a post saying that Caitlyn was going to kill the child because she's a cop, what does being a cop or an enforcer have to do with killing a kid?

They completely ignoring that she's in a condition of hysteria from fear and anger at that moment, (literally, was Silco a cop when he decided to kill Vander and his children in episode 3 in season 1, or not? He's from Zaun so he has the right to do bad things, but if he's someone from Piltover, then no. "Of course I'm not saying that these actions are good, of course not. I just want to show how hypocritical these people are when it comes to comparisons and accepting actions from other characters and characters even though they're exactly the same actions")

But anyway, the important thing now is that they should know that trauma is trauma no matter what, whether the character is rich or poor, adult or teenager. Sadness and anger are emotions that are difficult to control, and this is the reality. There is no need to lie to ourselves. Go and search even on Google, and you will see that when writers make a character act in a certain way, whether it is good or bad, there is a clear and logical reason for it. And if these people sympathize with Jinx and her actions, then they should sympathize with Caitlyn as well because she is also a victim like Jinx, not only in terms of trauma, but Caitlyn also became a victim of Ambessa's manipulation. Same when Jinx was a victim of Silco's manipulation.

In my opinion, these people should calm down a bit because until now we haven't seen anything from the show. They should trust the writers of the show to make the characters look like this.

[ssaltlicker]

People applying american politics to arcane is the funniest shit. Whats even the point of watching the show

[mangosmoothies]

i need ppl to understand it’s okay for fans to call Caitlyn a villain or dictator in this situation bc that’s quite Literally her character rn 😅 “but it’s because-!” U don’t have to make excuse on why u like her! Ppl can like characters that do bad things. admitting the bad things she’s done r great. I love sevika and silco and we’ve seen the shit they’ve done!

I’m tired of ppl trying to defend Caitlyn rn like she isn’t supposed to be the antagonist. And I’m tired of ppl immediately pushing Caitlyn into this hole of being a nazi cop. She’s a human being with human emotions. bad things happened to her so she’s retaliating by being bad and the show is obviously showing us that’s she’s being bad and it’s OBVIOUSLY gonna be resolved soon but just let her be bad! Let her react to trauma in ways a privileged individual with that much power can! It’s what makes her character complex !

No I dont like what She’s doing but thats quite literally trauma and rage responses from a human person. I don’t think it’s completely fair to downplay what she went thru but at the same time her reactions ARE deplorable and it just makes her current arc that much more interesting 🫣

[sillystimmings]

atp silcos ghost needs to pick up a ukulele and drop an “apology” video i can’t keep explaining the basis of his character in the narrative