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TWO COLLAB!! birthday gift for my bsfs :3

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Yesssss Ambessa and Silco are the true villains in arcane. They are 2 sides to the same coin, manipulating 2 vulnerable people for their own gain and stopping at nothing. Caitlyn and Jinx were their victims. Also when it comes down to judging Piltover, people should be mad/judging the system and not “bystanders” or individuals. Just because someone is from Piltover doesn’t mean they agree at all with their actions. Think of some people from America, do they all support good ole Donald? Hell no

Well said I mean it's very clear that Silco and Ambessa Are The True Villains In Arcane. Silco and Ambessa caused a lot of problems in the show and suffering for the characters, they only cared about their own personal interests.

Silco killed an entire family for control, Vander who tried to defend his people, he tried to kill Vi, Mylo, Calggor and even Jinx if she hadn't hugged him he would have killed her after finding out where Vi was.

Silco knew their mother and didn't care, he just flooded all of Zaun with shimmer, and got people addicted to it.

"Silco flooded the lanes with shimmer"

"He didn't care what it did to ppl"

And the kids are forced to work in dangerous factories, then a bunch of idiots and hypocrites come to you and tell you that Silco wanted to free Zaun from Piltover, what kind of liberation are you talking about when Silco pays enforcers to kill anyone who opposes him.

Also in the show that zaunites fucking hated Silco, they draw Vander beside Jinx

So all I can say is that these people are hypocrites and see the show from one point of view, and they have a weird principle that says:

(Zaun = good / Piltover = bad )This is how they see the show

They're like they hate a corrupt system and that's fine, but they're defending criminals and child slavers. It's like are you hate characters who did bad things or do you hate them when you know where they're from or what exactly??

Now what these people are doing is called hypocrisy.

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Ekko AGREED to use The GREY to neutralize the Chem-Barons.

Here's the analysis:

Also, I forgot to mention, but here's another confirmation that Jayce knew about The Grey, as he completely redesigned the mask.

The versions on the left were the last ones before Jayce, specifically designed for the concentrated gas. These still had a pipe outlet and an oxygen tank. In the version designed by Jayce, there was new technology that helped see through the dense Grey via lenses, and it directly filtered the air, eliminating the need for pipes and extra oxygen tanks.

This mask is closer to the one used by the enforcers, with the distinction that the lenses in Jayce's version are even more advanced, not only protecting the eyes but, as I mentioned, offering better vision. (This feature is visibly switchable on and off in ep 2 of s 2.)

False, one-page or one-sentence ragebait posts always spread faster than detailed content, even though, to get an accurate picture,

it's important to examine the details, not just take something out of context without meaning.

If you're interested, you can find more in-depth analyses on my profile, such as why it was Heimerdinger, whose 200 years of neglect and inaction created the entire conflict between Zaun and Piltover.

Thank you for reading it!

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I can't believe 6 months later people are still making things up on a show and calling themselves analysts, I'm talking about Caitlyn and Vi here like okay hate them all you want no one fucking cares! But don't lie and make things up that didn't happen just to prove that "you're a wow genius" no you're a fucking liar

Like how could these people have misunderstood this obvious scene in episode 3 of season 2 when Caitlyn and Vi are arguing at this moment

This is how I interpreted it, Caitlyn kept taking Vi's word about wanting to stop Jinx but at every chance Vi got, she chose her sister. "I kept telling myself you're different" = I kept believing you even after you kept proving me wrong. "it's her blood in your veins" = you'll always choose her over me, which Vi did and Caitlyn later comes to accept in the guards at the hexgates scene.

I mean seriously look at the situation, Vi stopped Caitlyn from killing Jinx for a second time, and now Caitlyn is mad and obsessed with Jinx so it's only makes sense that they're talking about her, and the sentence that Caitlyn said to Vi “you were different“ line was in reference to Vi being Jinx sister and Cait thinking Vi was different than her sister.

I really had no idea ppl were connecting it to her being from Zaun or her blood is dirty or any of these bullshit.

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Caitlyn is definitely water, and anyone who says otherwise needs to watch the show again. Caitlyn has changed from a normal, somewhat naive girl, to a vengeful, sad girl, to a girl who takes on the position of leader to protect her people, then turns on Ambessa to protect Vi and Vi's family, and then forgives Jinx, the person who ruined her life and has Vi free her. All this and some people say that she hasn't changed and that she's just like fire because she's a person with power. It's not about power or conquest, it's about destruction. Fire always symbolizes destruction in most cultures, and this suits Jinx very well. Jinx is always destroying and spoiling things and most of the time she does it just for fun, not for a clear purpose. Even if Caitlyn does something bad, her actions are less harmful than the rest of the characters in the show, including Jinx.

Video by: ( @homelanderwuvsyouv2 ) on Instagram

I say this because I saw many comments on this video saying that Caitlyn should be fire and Jinx should be water, and their reason is because Caitlyn is a leader and she was seeking to destroy and invade Zaun, and she never changed, I really was wondering (did these idiots actually watch the show? Or do they watch with they asses not eyes ) because they literally forgot what Caitlyn did to prevent destruction or anything that harmed innocent people, we saw her in episode 1 preventing the invasion and went with a small team to minimize the losses, even when Caitlyn took over the position of leader, she did not use her power to do bad things "like Ambessa and Silco". Caitlyn always opposed Ambessa for using violent methods.

What I love about Caitlyn's character, despite her sadness and anger, she never lost her principles and seeks justice, even in the game Caitlyn is always symbolized as a character who always seeks justice.

I personally think that all the hate towards Cait is, misogyny and homophobia aside for a moment, also due to the fact that she is not a static character. She moves and changes a lot, but she is one of the few characters in Arcane who also CHANGES FOR THE BETTER, who ACTIVELY MOVES to change things. And a lot of people do not understand this, she is not a villain, she is not always in the good side. She does the right things, but she also does the wrong things, the important thing is that at the end she accepts her mistakes, her emotions, and she is willing to sacrifice herself to do better. THIS is what makes her a dynamic character, makes her aware. This is what makes her so resilient and caring and it is really bad to notice how people are so unused to this representation that they criticize her to the point of hating her. She moves and changes a lot, but she is one of the few characters in Arcane who also CHANGES FOR THE BETTER, who ACTIVELY MOVES to change things. And a lot of people do not understand this, she is not a villain, she is not always in the good side. She does the right things, but she also does the wrong things, the important thing is that at the end she accepts her mistakes, her emotions, and she is willing to sacrifice herself to do better. THIS is what makes her a dynamic character, makes her aware. This is what makes her so resilient and caring and it is really bad to notice how people are so unused to this representation that they criticize her to the point of hating her. She's complex, ofc, but try to do better from every mistake. It is so rare.

So I agree with the rest of the comparisons like Vi symbolizes the earth, and Ekko symbolizes the air, I really love this.

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Why Vi matters

I understand some of the criticism towards season 2's writing of Vi's character. I don't agree at all with people who say Vi's character was ruined: I think she was very in-character, her development made sense, and I liked her ending, how she ended up finally choosing her own happiness after so many years of sacrificing herself for others and how she ended in a happier place where she is loved and can finally heal. But I do think Vi was sidelined in season 2, mostly in the final act and in the final fight (Vi has a smaller role in the final fight than everyone else, which, as a Vi stan, I find disappointing).

However, as someone who deeply loves Vi's character, I don't like being negative about her (because it's honestly draining and I want to be happy about my favorite character). So I like to tell myself all of the ways in which Vi was still important, both to Piltover and Zaun, and to the narrative. Not only that, but it really annoys me when I see people criticize season 2 by saying that "Vi didn't matter at all, you could remove her from the story and nothing would change". That's not true. Vi did matter, and a lot. So here's why I think Vi was important to the story, both in season 1 and season 2:

1) Vi is deeply empathetic and cares about the wellbeing of Zaun and Piltover both, and fought and contributed to the two cities:

Vi opened Caitlyn's eyes towards the Undercity and the corruption of the enforcers, so that Caitlyn could use her money and power for good (as Caitlyn herself says to the Council, "she risked everything to show me what life was really like down there");

Vi saved Caitlyn's and Jayce's lives during the memorial attack. Both Caitlyn and Jayce played crucial roles in the final battle, so without Vi, they would have lost the fight against Ambessa and Viktor;

She convinced Caitlyn to find an alternative solution to a full scale invasion of Zaun ("You need to find a way to call off the invasion"), in order to minimize casualties;

She helped stop Shimmer and the chem-barons;

Vi will probably spend her life trying to reform the enforcers with Caitlyn and protect the two cities.

2) Vi's contribution in the final fight was not meaningless:

It might not feel glorious, but defending that cannon that was shooting the crates at Ambessa's army and ships was important, it enabled their army to continue holding off Ambessa's forces and ships for as long as they could;

Someone already pointed out in another post (here's the link to the post) that the reason Ekko was free from Viktor's mind control and was able to defeat him with his Z-drive in the end is because Jinx used her shimmer speed to dodge the mind control tendril that was meant for her, and ended up being caught by the one that was meant for Ekko. This is why Ekko ended up free from Viktor's control. But the only reason Jinx was free to be able to dodge that tendril is because Vi protected her from Warwick multiple times during that fight. When Jinx was on the balloon being chased by Warwick, Vi saves her by punching Warwick:

And when they are in zero gravity and Warwick grabs Jinx, Vi once again saves her:

Without Vi, Jinx wouldn't be free to dodge that tendril, Ekko would have been caught, they would have lost that fight and Viktor would have enslaved them all.

Finally, Jinx was only free to help in that fight and dodge that tendril in the first place because Vi believed in her, believed that she changed for the good, and freed her. Without Vi, they would have lost the fight.

3) Vi's importance in the narrative:

When you think about it, Vi drives a huge part of the narrative (as a Vi stan, I am biased, I know, but I would even argue that she is THE main character of the show, in terms of her impact on the narrative and on other characters). She is central to both Caitlyn and Jinx's characters. For Jinx, Vi is the long lost sister that Jinx wants back, but also resents and feels afraid of being rejected. Many of Jinx's decisions that completely change the story between the two cities happen because of her conflicted feelings towards Vi. She bombs the bridge because she thinks Vi is abandoning her again. She bombs the council out of anger after feeling that Vi had "rejected" her. For Caitlyn, Vi is the one who opens her eyes about the Undercity and about the corruption of the enforcers.

Vi is central to the whole conflict between Jinx and Caitlyn. She is the cause of the hatred between them, but she is also the reason they let go of their hatred/rivalry towards each other, as they work together to save Vi. Vi's love and her good heart helps save both Jinx and Caitlyn from their dark paths:

For the entirety of season 1, Vi's love and determination to get back to her sister and save her is what puts in motion several events (Jinx's bombings, Vi and Caitlyn's plea to the council, and later her raid of the shimmer factory). In season 2, Vi's love makes it so that as soon as she sees some humanity in Jinx, sees Jinx showing empathy towards Isha, she is quick to believe that her sister has changed. If Vi was anyone else, she would not have forgiven Jinx so easily for all Jinx did. But Vi is incredibly forgiving and constantly believes the best in Jinx even when everyone else believes Jinx is a lost cause. And Jinx finally realizes this after she sees Vi's sacrifice for her in the commune, realizing that Vi always loved her and is never going to give up on her. And while at the moment, Jinx doesn't really feel worthy of Vi's dedication, ultimately, it's the fact that Vi never gave up on her, that Vi believed that Jinx could "use her explosive potential for good", that helps save everyone when Jinx does come to help in the final fight.

Vi was the initial catalyst in season 1 for Caitlyn to leave her naive views behind and see more of the plight of the Undercity and the corruption of the enforcers. And in season 2, while Caitlyn was never on board with Ambessa's violence and already distrusted Ambessa, Vi was the final push that she needed to finally act against Ambessa. Vi's love and lack of hatred/resentment is central here: during their reunion, if Vi was a different person, she could have clung to hatred and resentment towards Caitlyn because of what happened between them when they last saw each other. But Vi is not that kind of person. She is deeply empathetic and forgiving. She can understand why Caitlyn acted the way she did, and she forgives her. She doesn't hold resentment or hatred. So when they reunite, Vi instantly shows that she doesn't hate Caitlyn by calling her cupcake, opens her heart to Caitlyn about her father, and supports and trusts Caitlyn when executing their plan against Ambessa (yes, she has Jinx there to make sure Caitlyn follows through, but agreeing to be tied up and handed to Ambessa still involved a lot of trust on Vi's part. She might not have fully trusted Caitlyn, but she gave her the benefit of the doubt). Considering that Caitlyn has been manipulated for months and is feeling completely isolated, Vi's trust and forgiveness are huge things for Caitlyn. She realizes that she is not alone, that not all is lost and that she can still make up for her mistakes, that she has someone that will support her if she goes against Ambessa. Vi gives Caitlyn the support and forgiveness that she needed to finally be able to get out of the mess she was in.

So that's why I think Vi's role in the story is vital and central. Her love, her good heart, her lack of hatred and resentment, and her determination to protect her loved ones and her community are all important to set plenty of things in motion in this story, and are vital to saving Caitlyn, Jinx and the world.

(By the way, I'm not really interested in arguing about whether all that I pointed out was well explored by the writing of the show or not. I made this post to feel positive about my fave, so please don't reblog to argue about the writing of the show. I will probably agree with you if you say criticize certain things about the writing, but I don't really want to argue about it in this post, I just want to focus on the positive)

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I'm sure Caitlyn was saying to herself, "how could you stop me again.. from killing the person who destroyed my life"

It was like Vi was telling her “My sister is gone” giving Cait the chance to end it all. Caitlyn trusted her, but Vi betrayed that trust. The same applies to Caitlyn, she had promised Vi that she would never change, yet she did.

The entire episode was filled with tension and immense pressure on both sides. And yet, by the end, they accepted each other’s new selves.

About to go a little crazy about the separate looks on Caitlyn and Vi’s faces when Vi blocks Caitlyn’s shot at Jinx/Isha and they’re just staring at each other in disbelief. Can we get those shots (no pun intended) please ??? 😁

we were children of divorce for the entirety of seven days

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This one 🔥💙❤️

reblog this post with one frame from season two that would've made your pre-S2 release self go nuts.

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Vi and Caitlyn are very similar

I think many people tend to focus on superficial differences between Vi and Caitlyn (especially Caitvi haters), and fail to see just how similar they actually are.

Vi and Caitlyn are both very kind, selfless and empathetic people who want to protect others:

We see how much Vi loves her family and her sister and how much she sacrifices for them: she is willing to turn herself in to the enforcers to protect her siblings, risks her life to save Vander from Silco, puts herself in mortal danger of being killed by Silco's goons just to get to her sister in season 1, uses her body to save Jinx from an explosion, and so on. We also see her desire to protect people that are not her family (X, X): she says she wishes she was there to help Ekko and the Firelights ("I should have been there. For you. For everyone"), she's horrified at Jinx's violence, she wants to do what she can to stop Jinx, she argues against a full-scale invasion of Zaun and asks Caitlyn to find an alternative to minimize casualties, she fights against Silco and the chem-barons, she puts herself between Caitlyn and Heenot when Caitlyn threatens him with her gun, she  protects Isha from Caitlyn and from Warwick, she says she wants to stay and help in Viktor’s commune, and she fights in the final battle to protect everyone (she was not going to run away with Jinx, she asked Jinx to stay and help in the fight).

Caitlyn might lose her way a little during a period in season 2, but that doesn't erase her kindness and selflessness: she was investigating Silco and cared for the Undercity while no one else in Piltover cared (she says herself in 1x04 that the only reason people are investigating now is because of Jinx attacks and because they “overstepped” by attacking Piltover, but Caitlyn was investigating Silco even when his criminal activities were confined to Zaun, she was the only one that cared enough about Zaun to investigate), she talks about how she wants to heal the city, and argues with her mother and the council about their neglect towards the Undercity. She cares for the injured criminal that Jinx shot (the goon that Vi always beats up), and hugs Huck (the shimmer addict) to comfort him. She empathizes with Vi when she sees the injustice that was done to her in Stillwater and constantly puts her life in danger to save Vi (doesn't abandon Vi when she is stabbed by Sevika and trades her own means of protecting herself to get medicine for Vi, defends Vi to the council). She is against Ambessa's violence towards Zaun and argues for lawful arrests, forbids the use of cells with inhumane conditions in Stillwater, and risks her life to help Vander and stop Ambessa.

Both Vi and Caitlyn are very overconfident, impulsive and reckless:

Vi throws herself into a fight with Sevika as soon as she gets out of prison. When the council denies help against Silco, she takes it upon herself to take matters into her own hands by seeking Jayce's help to raid his factories, and when Jayce backs down, she thinks she can single-handedly go against Silco and throws herself into yet another fight against Sevika. In season 2, she thinks she can just take her gauntlets and go by herself find Jinx.

Caitlyn thinks she can go by herself (or just with Vi's help) into the Undercity and defeat its criminal boss. She takes a huge gamble in releasing Vi, who for all she knows is a violent criminal that senselessly attacks other inmates, and who has no reason to actually cooperate with her once she's freed (and indeed, Vi does try to ditch Caitlyn twice once she's free, when she goes parkouring thinking Caitlyn wouldn't be able to follow her, and when she leaves her in the brothel). She betrays Ambessa as soon as Vi appears, despite the fact that they're surrounded by Ambessa's soldiers. Caitlyn and Vi also both think they can take a small strike team of five people to defeat all the gangs of the chem-barons (and they actually manage to do it lmao).

This impulsivity and recklessness of theirs actually ties into another character trait that they share: they are both women of action.

Vi and Caitlyn are not people who are ok with sitting on the sidelines hoping that someone will do something about the problems around them. They actively want to solve these problems and shape the world around them. Vi sees the state of the Undercity once she returns, and is eager to do what she can to destroy Silco's shimmer empire, and is actually disdainful of people that don't do anything about the Undercity's problems (she disdainfully calls Jayce "a victim" when he tells her he is not a vigilante, and after the raid on Silco's factory, she says "You've always been a part of this. You just never had to look it in the eye. One dead kid? There's hundreds more where he came from, thanks to Silco, and thanks to people like you who stuck their heads in the dirt"). She actively wants to help fix the problem she believes she caused by “creating” Jinx. She urges Caitlyn to find a way to call off the invasion of Zaun and helps Caitlyn with the strike team, and she wants to fight (and fights) in the final battle (as I explained above, her intention was never to run away with Jinx), despite being injured.

Caitlyn doesn't want to be coddled by her parents and wants to do something actually meaningful as an enforcer. She takes the Silco investigation into her own hands (when no one else cared), forms the strike team with Vi, and assumes power when Ambessa manipulates her (however lost and misguided she was at this point, there's no denying that she's taking matters into her own hands). And after she betrays Ambessa, she does everything she can to correct her mistakes, not with empty words of apology, but with actions (she tries to help Vi save Vander from Ambessa, lets Vi free Jinx, sacrifices herself in the fight against Ambessa, and as far as we know, gives her council seat to Sevika).

Vi and Caitlyn are both determined to an extreme:

As a teen, Vi was determined to prove herself with the heist. Then, she spent 7 years in prison and never gave up on her determination to get back to her sister, never broke, and as soon as she got out, she did everything in her power to get to her (with the exception of condoning Jinx's crimes, which is very fair and consistent with the fact Vi is an empathetic character). She was also so determined in stopping Silco that she got a councillor to do what she wanted. Caitlyn was always determined to prove herself beyond just her family's name with her investigation on Silco, and doesn't give up on it even after her parents get her fired, to the point that she pretends to still be an enforcer in order to interrogate some criminals, and even forges Jayce's signature to get Vi out of prison so she can continue her investigation. She is also determined to an extreme to catch Jinx after Jinx kills her mother.

They both work within the system to protect people: 

They both become enforcers (Vi ends up following Vander's legacy of compromise and working within the system instead of being a revolutionary), and they try to get the council's help to solve the problem of Silco. But at the same time they work within the system, both are willing to break rules to get what they want or do what they need to do (Vi goes after Silco by herself without the approval of the council, frees Jinx, and Caitlyn continues with her investigation despite no longer being an enforcer and forges documents to free a prisoner).

They're both full of guilt

Vi spends a long period of her life feeling guilty about slapping Powder and everything that happened during the night they lost their family. Caitlyn also ends up feeling guilty about hitting Vi and about the things she did when she was allied to Ambessa.

To sum things up: 

They are both kind, selfless and empathetic protectors. They are both overconfident, impulsive and reckless, but those traits are linked to the fact that they both value action over words. They are both brave and determined. They both know what it's like to feel immense guilt for their past actions, and understand each other because of it. They are so similar that it's no wonder these two fell in love. They both value empathy, selflessness, bravery and action, they both see in each other these traits that they value, they understand each other and think alike.

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They’re completely inseparable! you can see how much they love and care for each other 💙♥️

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Fr!! Silco is a terrible character like Silco killed the entire family, got people addicted to shimmer, forced children to work in dangerous factories, and paid enforcers to kill anyone who opposed him.

All this and people still think he did it to fight the class lmao! so ridiculous.

Am I the only one that hates silco?

Like I get that he's a really complex character (and well written too), and he loved Jinx but I just don't like him. It's not even because he was a shitty father (he definitely fucked up Jinx and has a big role in her trauma), because I have no qualms loving super problematic characters, but something about him just makes me really hate him and I'm not entirely sure what...

Am I alone in this? Because I was low-key surprised to see him universally loved.

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… I can’t imagine that we actually watched the same show. Like I REALLY AISNSOSNWKMEJDND

hold on I’m gonna need to calm down.

Let me just make a list of why I disagree and at least organize my anger. Long post incoming.

Vander was friends and had a deal with Grayson. The sheriff. Idk what else to even add to that

Caitlyn is more than a cop and Arcane isn’t copaganda. Genuinely don’t know what kind of progress some of these people are looking for. Real allies are a necessity for real progress.

SILCO IS A CLASS TRAITOR. HE FUNNELLED DRUGS INTO THE UNDERCITY AND PUT POOR KIDS IN FACTORIES FOR THAT DRUG FOR PROFIT!!! HE PAID THE ENFORCERS TO LET HIM DO IT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE

Vi is not as much as an activist as you would like to believe

WHY IS EKKO NEVER EVER BROUGHT UP IN THESE CONVERSATIONS????

Silco was not good for the Undercity

Silco was not a great guy. Ekko had to build an entire separate hidden community for the people he hurt and stepped on for his own benefit

Caitlyn is ignorant and naive. That’s ok. That’s what character development is for.

Loving imperfect characters like Silco and Jinx then hating characters like Vi and Caitlyn is peak media illiteracy to me

FOR THE LAST TIME: VI DIDNT ABANDON POWDER!!!!! Silco literally wanted Vi DEAD for trying to stop him from killing Vander??? How could you possibly say silco was there for jinx when Vi refused to be???? SHE WAS IN PRISON BECAUSE OF HIM???

Silco’s manipulation is working wonders on y’all

Embracing all the outrage without at all looking out for the people harmed by bigotry is not activism

SILCO IS A CLASS TRAITOR x929282929394

Caitlyn was the first person in years to show Vi kindness and care. She listened and stuck by her and took care of her after Vi was locked up for years and beat up by cops (i wonder what led her to be thrown in there?). Cait being a cop stopped being a point of contention once Vi recognized her naivety and genuineness.

NUANCE NUANCE NUANCE. ITS NEVER EVER BLACK AND WHITE

The only way I can see Vi touching ‘class traitor’ in season one was the shimmer raid. Guess who the hell put those kids in there in the first place.

Just hanging out with Caitlyn isn’t being a class traitor if Vander’s allowed to be friends with Grayson.

Critical thinking is very necessary for watching shows like Arcane

What the hell did Silco really do for the Undercity???? What changed over the 7(ish) years he was basically in power of the place? All I’ve heard was he made the air cleaner, which would be great except for, you know, shimmer and the child factory workers

Jinx is unwell and feeding into it like this in a fully serious manor would not help Arcane as a show at all

What do you want Arcane’s message as a full show to be? ‘Screw cops’? That’s a little boring and unproductive isn’t it?

CAN WE TALK ABOUT EKKO AND HIS IMPACT PLEASE???? x9382728283

Caitlyn is trying to make Piltover and Zaun a better place. Is that not allowed? Am I missing something?

Caitlyn and Vi’s arcs have only just started. Season one is basically fully set up except for characters like silco and Jinx. This is far from the end.

Genuinely think Vander would appreciate Vi for being friends (using this term loosely because they are in love) with Caitlyn considering he was the one who was opposed to war and Vi wasn’t.

Silco should NOT be your idea of Undercity independence and respect. He oppressed the Undercity the same way the Council and the Enforcers did. He helped no one but himself, his team (barely) and Jinx.

You’re allowed to like and dislike any character you want but pretending like Silco is better for the Undercity than others is just so ridiculous to me. Everyone is of course completely allowed to like Silco, but we can’t pretend like he’s this stand up guy. If you have to pretend like he was, maybe you don’t like him as much as you think.

“Because Cait’s pretty” is also incredibly incorrect. Go check point #14.

Vi never stopped loving and caring for Powder. Powder’s mental health issues were amplified and utilized by Silco because he couldn’t even heal himself.

If all of your opinions of Caitlyn and Vi start and end with “cops suck” and “class traitor” then you genuinely don’t respect Arcane as a show enough to show you nuance.

The misinterpretation of characters is just so … it’s like you go out of your way to love and/or hate characters no matter how much they show you who you are.

Your closed mindedness is clouding your judgement and making you out to seem like you don’t actually want the Undercity’s triumph, you want Silco and Jinx’s, even if it means ruining the Undercity. And that would be fine because father/daughter evil duo but trying to say you’re all for this duo because you want what’s better for the Undercity when they continue to hurt it is simply not correct and very harmful (to fictional characters in a fictional universe 😭)

Only being able to understand how Silco and Jinx were oppressed and therefore should be able to not just destroy Piltover but also Zaun is not the eat you think it is

Why is Viktor never called a class traitor? I think he's great (I also think Silco and Jinx are wonderfully written) but we hardly saw him in the Undercity/ interact with people from the Undercity plus he killed someone (Sky) from there (accidentally)

EDIT TO ADD ANOTHER POINT: Caitlyn has shown little to NO malicious intent and has no real negative impacts other than Jinx’s attachment issues and insecurities being amplified by her mere existence. Again, this is her story and development. Throughout the season she is exposed to reality and recognizes her and her peers/ families wrongs. I have no idea what you want from this character. Should Piltover just be gotten rid of in the story? Then what? Should Caitlyn have just never gotten involved and continued to embrace her privilege? Should she have left Vi in prison and stay ignorant?

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The theory that Caitlyn would accept the role of commander while knowing Ambessa is manipulating the situation really didn't ring true for me, and I'm glad Amanda confirmed Caitlyn wouldn't have.

Added this in a reblog but might as well put it in the main post: Yes it's super obvious and basically a waste of a question, I'd never even considered it could be misinterpreted until I saw other people's wild theories about this scene, both on tumblr and on other apps.

The scene edit is clear in showing us a close up of Ambessa in the present day to tell us this relates to her and not Caitlyn. The attack was the catalyst for Caitlyn's strike team and use of the grey. It's also a major motivation for Caitlyn to accept Ambessa's nomination, and it hinges on her not knowing that Ambessa was behind the attack. She's not afraid to speak out as we see in later episodes, so if she had proof or even the slightest inkling she would have spoken up and confronted Ambessa/the Noxians for being the 'animals' behind the attack instead of accepting the nomination. She didn't fully trust Ambessa, but she didn't know the full extent of Ambessa's manipulation and desperation to escalate the Piltover and Zaun conflict.

What I want to add is that I initially wanted Caitlyn to figure out that Ambessa was behind the memorial attack after becoming commander. Simply because I like when Caitlyn puts on her detective hat and we see her being very hot analyzing a crime scene. Ambessa didn't leave any loose ends alive so there was no way for Caitlyn to figure it out without being told, which I was a little sad about.

But I changed my mind because what we got is so much better.

Caitlyn did the right thing and turned on Ambessa without knowing the full extent of Ambessa's manipulation. This is important because it solidifies Caitlyn as a good person who has done bad things, who looks at those decisions as the mistakes they are and then chooses to do better. She learns and grows. That would not have been the case if Caitlyn had come to learn Ambessa was behind the attack and that had been her sole reason for breaking the alliance.

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it's fucking august and i'm sick of people still INSISTING that caitvi is toxic yuri (or outright Bad). like. i don't know how to fucking explain to you that characters can make questionable and inconsiderate choices and it doesn't AUTOMATICALLY imply cruel or selfish intention. you fucking idiots talking like caitlyn was some evil self-serving womanizing """dictator""" just using Vi and purposefully setting up the jail sex are DELULUUUUUUUUU

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