#Toxic fandom

[shyjusticewarrior]

I'm all for lending people your comics and such. But if your reason is you want to "convert" them from being a "tiktok fanon fan" then you're a fucking loser.

[originalleftist]

Fascism has really weaponized fandom nostalgia to foment white/male grievance.

The worst thing about being a girl that is into Star Wars and Jurassic Park and watches YouTube videos about these franchises is that you will 100% get video recommendations like: „THE 10 MOST WOKE MOVIE FAILS OF 2024“ on your fyp. And it’s just movies with female leads (the acolyte for example)

[lily-s-world]

With this Manwhore AU going around, I made a joke about it on a YouTube video of Epic, just to have a guy come and try to explain me Greek Mythology.

Last week, I made a joke/comment in a post about WonderWoman, just to have some guy trying to explain to me who Wonder Woman is.

I'm not so glad to see how mansplaining is still a strong thing on fandoms. 😑

[neon-draws-sometimes]

I tried to best to get a variety of popular fandoms here, but apologies if I missed any big ones.

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[wetsocksinbed]

genuinely hate how we are at a point where you can’t have a single criticism about a character without a good chunk of the fandom going for your throat. Especially when you actually like that character. The perfect example is Astarion from BG3. I absolutely love Astarion, he’s my favourite romance option, and I’ll defend him till the day I die.

However he is canonically an evil character. His alignment at the start of the game is Neutral Evil. He’s done terrible things, and was a terrible person even before Cazador met him. I am allowed to point that out while still loving him.

[dekaydk]

”Go to hell” is all the answer any nosy stranger deserves.

Daou held a twitch live and he went off at the haters!

And we applaud him👏👏👏

[allaboutalf]

“We’re just having fun”, “No one can have fun anymore”, “It’s a joke”, “why are you taking things so seriously?” and it’s in response to people taking issue with toxic shippers hating on an actor for playing a LI they think stands in the way of their ship. Cropping him out of a bts photo or putting pie on his face. Saying he’s ‘there’, he’s ‘ugly’, he’s whatever negative thing you dream up. That’s not jokes, babes, that’s being a crappy person.

[fox-teefs]

Guys, people are allowed to like Jimmy 😭 Do not act like we weren’t all simping over William Afton who literally MURDERED MULTIPLE CHILDREN and is responsible for the deaths of his own children, and then go and hate on other people who think Jimmy is a well written villain. I don’t like him for his actions, I like him cus he’s a well written villain and it’s silly to bully him, he’s like a little rat and I love him in that way-

I think it’s absolutely insane that we are like, criminalizing people for enjoying characters that are designed to be hated. Why are we allowed to love William Afton? What about the AM lovers? The sentient robot that killed / enslaved all of humanity?

“B-b-but it’s different!” It’s actually really not… 😭 All these characters are horrible individuals and are still loved by many, yet Jimbalya gets mass hate and people get harassed for liking him, how is that fair?

And technically, if Jimmy is a terrible person, and needs to be hated, so does Curly! He was an accomplice. Anya told him what happened, she confided in him, and he just said he’d “take care of it.” And did nothing, stood by and just let Jimmy keep doing all the horrible shit he did. “Oh, but C-C-Curly is hot…! And… h-he didn’t know..!! He had mental health issues!” So did Jimmy? But that doesn’t excuse him literally doing non consensual shit to Anya, and being mentally ill doesn’t excuse not standing up for your crew members AS A CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP, WHO IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT HIS CREW. But apparently you people don’t know how to like, handle representation. 😭

“M-media literacy!” People who use this as a means to make harassing other people over a CHARACTER, clearly don’t fucking know what media literacy means. PLEASEEEE let me enjoy a character in peace.

Have a silly picture of “my baby” pregnant because of two other Jimmies. Have a good day.

[petewentzsvaginabones]

you realize that mcr vintage vinyl was posted 8 years ago right? and that everyone and their mother has seen that video? please dont act like you've found a holy grail of mcr content. children shouldnt be on tumblr let alone in a fandom space full of actual adults who know everything there is to know. nobody wants some middle school weirdo in their space going off about old content. keep your thoughts to yourself next time lmao

someone woke up and decided to be unpleasant today damn.

Who the hell crowned you “king millennial”? I’m just some fuckin high schooler trying to enjoy content. I know for a fact that there are some newer mcr fans in the community who haven’t seen that show before. I don’t give a shit if you were there from the beginning we were all new at some point. We don’t all start out as some rock elitist with godly knowledge of everything our favorite bands have ever done. Most of us were (and still are) some nerdy ass people who enjoy music and so did my chemical romance. that’s probably a huge reason a lot of us like them so much.

i’m sorry that you feel the need to start beef with some 14 year old because you’re still just as insecure as you were at my age. It sucks that so many music communities love to gatekeep and hate on younger fans just because that’s how the scene was when they were coming into it.

i genuinely hope you can grow as a person.

[hellaversity]

Reminder that ch*footsteps is responsible for the Hazbin Hotel leaks. Not only has he tried to doxx Viv's siblings over Blitzker, he illegally tried to release fake footage of Hazbin Hotel season 2 without any permission from Vivizepop or SpindleHorse. Again, over a fictional ship between fictional characters. He became a hate-watcher and has been bashing Viv ever since Western Energy came out and got pissed that his fantasies of Striker "saving" Blitzø from his made up, fanon version of Stolas didn't become true. He has written several fanfics involving NTR and beastiality. The worst part is that he has many followers who support him and try to justify his actions. He started a whole cult and committed actual felonies over a damn ship. This man is a criminal and if posts on Twitter saying he's been thrown in jail because of the Hazbin leaks are telling the truth, god fucking bless because Ch*i is finally getting exactly what he deserves.

[shyjusticewarrior]

At some point "fanfic can be as good as professional writing" became "fanfic should be as good as professional writing" and that's caused major damage to fandom spaces.

[redheadsdefender]

Well good morning to you too I guess.

TW: grape threats

I received that this morning on Instagram from the user @persichekaur :

This is a FICTIONAL BOOK. with FICTIONAL CHARACTERS.

Get your heads out of your asses.

PS1: IF you're a woman wishing for grape on any fictional or real person, you're a disgrace.

PS2: feel free to use this picture however you see fitting to spread the message.

[thewondrousdreamer]

Im properly gonna get hate for this but I need to get this out there. As a Gojo lover and self-shipper I’d like to take a minute to explain how Satoru is so mischaracterized by his fan girls and how you SatoSugu shippers and the jjk fandom as a whole really get on my nerves. Disclaimer even tho im not a SatoSugu shipper I’m not hating on the ship just the fandom. And I don’t want to hear “she only hates SatoSugu bc she ships herself with Gojo. 😡” When in reality I hate all jjk ships bc wtf is Gojo X Megumi & Gojo X Itadori??? First off Gojo RAISED Megumi and his sister like a FATHER. He was their GUARDIAN since they were little kids. Secondly they’re minors Megumi and Itadori are literally 15 and some of y’all are shipping them with a 29 year old man??? That’s crazy and disgusting. Some of y’all are even shipping him with Sukuna the person who killed him and had y’all crying. I don’t even know how that ship makes sense tbh. Satoru is a tragically written character. He was a person with good morals, dreams and ambitions. Ever since he popped out of the womb he was forced to be the strongest bc of his gifts. He didn’t even get to have a childhood bc of that burden. Satoru has witnessed lots of deaths and has more blood on his hands then necessary AND he lost his best friend the person who really understood him the most. Satoru felt alone bc no one tried to get to know him as a person and not just as the strongest. No one even had the human decency to even once ask him if he was okay or even how his day was going. I’m honestly surprised he didn’t do what Geto did and turn villainous bc no one saw him as a person, not his colleagues/peers AND DEFINITELY not his fangirls. He died for sticking to his beliefs and morals. He died trying to protect people and properly felt weak bc not only was he forgotten by his students but his sacrifice wasn’t even acknowledged. He didn’t even really get a burial. But when season 2 came out some y’all really made Satoru’s entire personality about Suguru, His BEST FRIEND. Like I get it, Satoru and Suguru had great chemistry and went well together. They were fire & ice, yin & yang but I honestly don’t see them as nothing more than brothers not to mention the ship is not only overhyped but also over sexualized and it’s fandom is toxic. Like some of you guys are literally on twitter arguing and sending death threats to people who simply don’t like the ship. And are telling other Gojo lovers to off themselves bc they ship him with themselves or their OC’s and it’s not even that deep fr. And don’t even get me started on what some of y’all are doing to the Gojo figurines…. Absolutely disgusting💀. Then you guys literally read the manga and watch the anime not for the plot but just to prove to everyone that Satoru is gay and that it should be canon or just bc Satoru is pretty and y’all see him as ‘daddy 🤢.’ Satoru is also over sexualized for no reason everywhere I go there’s fan art of him sucking off or being balls deep in Suguru or someone either (A. Doing some twisted period blood ritual to his figurine or (B. Someone on tumblr is posting on the ENTIRE INTERNET how badly they want Satoru down their throat with his nut sack against their chin. some of y’all need to touch grass fr bc honestly wtf. It’s the same thing with SatoSugu it’s so sexualized for no reason. If it’s not freaky fanart of them it’s again, more tumblr post of the freaky positions Suguru would have Satoru in bc Satoru is a bottom apparently. I’m not hating on bl or gay ships but like why are they so sexualized? Especially by straight people, straight women to be exact. And not every thing needs to have ships or be gay. Satoru is so stripped out of his character not only bc he’s pretty but bc y’all took his bond with Suguru and made it into something else entirely. Like why can’t two women or two men be best friends without getting shipped together? This happens in real life friendships too. Not only does this ruin the friendship but it takes away from the characters personality. Being in this fandom is tiring and just not fun.

[theultimatenonbinarynerd]

Epic Fandom We Need To Talk! (An Open Letter)

As a former survivor of severe Cyberbullying and harrasment I can no longer stay silent anymore. You have forced my hand.

This has gone way too far and I am massively disappointed. All I ask is that you listen to what I have to say. This is no longer a joke as a survivor of Cyberbullying and harrasment I can say that a misunderstanding has turned into The Epic Fandom putting the livelihood and well being of artists in danger. I ask you to be respectful and understand I am speaking from old wounds and experience. Please don't twist my words, I don't support 🍇 or Antinous he is a horrible character.

Tw: Mentions of Cyberbullying, 🍇 and harassment

Dear Epic Fandom,

You are better then this, I know you are. Polites taught us to greet the world with open arms and accept when people make mistakes and stop holding onto are anger. The fandom is growing and we can't stop it but I'm really disappointed in the people letting hate win and turning the fandom venomous and toxic

We are all Epic Fans but behind the glass on your screen there's a person, a person with feelings who you know nothing about. You all don't know the real Melody typing this but your all probably gonna make assumptions based on what you dont know and that is the danger of being online. The person who posted fanart of Antinous and Telemachus you didn't like, they have real feelings. Complicated messy feelings that aren't able to be articulated enough online.

As a survivor of bullying myself my motto is block or scroll. I myself am very uncomfortable with a lot of the ao3 tags shipping Odysseus with Poseidon or Zeus but do I go angrily type on my keyboard? No I don't cos it's none of my damnn business. When I saw that art, I was confused and uncomfortable but instead of being reckless and sentimental I asked for clarification. Taking Polites advice I used open arms and talked about what was bothering me without attacking the artist. Instead of being like Polites you all became Poseidon. Ruthlessness Is Mercy is not the way to go, it's a toxic way to go about life. Did you all not listen to that Thunder Saga and see how it destroyed everything Odysseus had known for the past thirteen years.

You should all be absolutely ashamed of yourself. This is not what the Epic Fandom should be. You don't like someone's fan art ask for clarification and or block. There is no need to be Ruthless and cruel. The fact two genuine heartfelt Apologises have been made and you still can't let it go very much clearly shows your character. You are very much like Poseidon and Zeus and should be ashamed. In Ares words you are all sick cowards. Not only that but you are clearly projecting. I suggest you go to therapy if you think your time in the Epic the musical fandom should be spent bullying and harassing people then leave. The number one rule is that there is always a person behind the screen and that you should think before you type.

I'm still not over the fact how you have twisted and triggered someone's truama. I also can't believe hate is being given after the artist mentioned her experience. 🍇 is not a thing to weaponise. I feel like the Wisdom Saga has made you far too comfortable in how you handle and discuss 🍇. The artist forgot her trigger warnings and wasn't even trying to imply the twisted image you put on her. Also I pointed out she shouldn't have tagged it Epic and apologied. Jorge has made adaptations to The Odssey a piece of fiction. What Jorge has done with Antinous is his own creative liberties. If you can't have sensitive and respectful conversation about something that is still happening to people I don't know what to say. Accusing someone of supporting 🍇 is not okay at all. The artist wasn't attending that way and understands she shouldn't have done what she did but it goes both ways. Look for context before you slam. Judging someone based on an honest mistake and huge misunderstanding is dangerous and cruel. Do you not understand the dangers this could put the artist in in real life. Please have open arms and think before you type. This is a serious topic and not a joke.

Moving on I want to talk about why I think this blew up so bad. It's because Elian was commissioned to do an animatic for Jorge. Listen you all would have blocked if it wasn't for that. I read comments saying they idolised her and that is a really f**** dangerous thing to do. Idiolising someone because they've been noticed or hired by Jorge isn't healthy at all. At the end of the day we are all human beings. Elian is allowed to make mistakes and grow. Outside of Epic this is becoming a massive problem in genuine.

Worse I've seen and heard about Artists like Mirscy and AnniFlamma getting attacked just for defending their friend. I'm sorry are we not allowed to defend our friends now from bullying? I can't speak for them but if I saw my friend getting hated and harassed on I'd be angry too, it's like a natural emotion to feel. Then again you are the same fandom that mocks Eurylochus for sticking up for his crew so I'm not suprised. These artists are human beings and not God's because Jorge noticed and appreciated their work. Stop twisting these artists into people there not.

I'm not Tiresias but I can see Jorge stopping collaborating with artists on animatics if you keep this disgusting behaviour up. Constructive criticism is okay but falsely twisting the image of an artist is not okay at all by doing this you are dehumanising artists and doing exactly what Hollywood does. Jorge will have to stop commissioning people it you keep using the fact he noticed them against them when they make mistakes like all human beings do.

Please do better and stop being Poseidons. An 8 year grudge was unhealthy and got him nowhere. Be more like Polites and Greet The World with open arms. Not everything is black and white. Tik Tok built the Epic Fandom up and you hold all the power.

Stay kind and great the world the world with open arms.

Yours Sincerely,

Melody

They/Them

Ps: If you send me hate and twist my words be warned I have friends as well. One particular friend was there when a lot of my Cyberbullying truama happened and is aware why this has triggered me so badly and caused an episode.

Attack you will be blocked. I'll also remove reblogs.

Attack and you will be reported.

You don't scare me.

Be nice Epic Fandom and don't become The Monster. I'm willing to have civil conversations but that's it.

[kathrahender]

"We should stop normalizing abuse" "We should stop normalizing toxic relationships in media" "We should stop normalizing shipping X and Y characters together" "We should stop normalizing X trope" "We should stop normalizing this" "We should stop normalizing that"

How about we stop normalizing harrasing people over something fictional, hmm? Or you know- how about we stop normalizing telling REAL people to kill themselves?

And with "harassment" I mean "harassment" for any reason. For any reason. So don't start commenting things like "Yeah, harassing is bad, but-". No. If you're okay with harassing people in certain cases, get the hell out of my blog and block me NOW.

[lazysublimeengineer]

I swear this fandom is getting worse.

The Blue Lock fandom is just turning into a toxic fandom like the Attack on Titan period when WIT handed over the animation to MAPPA.

Imagine blaming and making fun of these animators who are just fucking employees in a greedy, capitalist organization?

Not even realizing that they are short-staffed, overwork to death and has meager pay?

If you wanna do something worthwhile, COMPLAIN DIRECTLY TO THE PRODUCTION STAFF AND THE COMPANY.

Imagine making an L post like this and expecting people to agree and laugh with you?

There is nothing wrong if you want to make a commentary about the animation or whatever you're seeing on the screen. Because that's how you critique a work objectively.

What makes it so wrong is to constantly harass, belittle and make fun of these animators when we have already seen the shitty workplace culture in Japan.

Stop being a Karen and doing L posts like this.

Just because it's your right and freedom to do so doesn't mean you have to fucking abuse it.