#pro stolitz

[theadhddimsenion]

You know something I find ironic about stella defenders and vivis critics? They love to talk a lot of shit about how bad vivi supposedly is at representing male victims of abuse all while defending and regurgitating arguments that are used to condemn and vilify male victims and defended his abuser!!!!

"Cheating is bad!! So stolas is bad!! And they just want to silence us into thinking that this is ok!!!!" No you brain dead peon! Cheating isn't always universally bad especially when it's been on someone who has done nothing but abuse them and actively talked shit about their performance as a way of disrespecting them!! And let's be very clear the only reason stella was upset is because it was an imp and stolas had finally gotten the Courage to stand up to her!!! And let's not forget that stella had been treating him like crap for years before this happened!

"He's a bad father!!" No he's not he's a struggling father. Neither he nor his daughter are bad people and neither of them deserved to be in the situation they were in. Should he have paid more attention to octiava yes. Is he a bad person and never cared about her because he didn't? Fuck no!! He messed up and he suffered the consequences and is trying to learn to better what more can you honestly ask if someone!?

"He's shouldn't have saved blitz because that showed octativa he was willing to die without caring about her!" Bull. Fucking. Shit!!!! How the fuck was he supposed to make a life or death descion and think about every possible situation this could result in when he had about 12 seconds to make sure the love of his life's head didn't go fucking choppy choppy!!!

"He's a coercive rapist reeeeee!!!" Look pal that agurment relies on a lot if's when it comes to bltizs ability to find a alternative means of getting to the human world so this argument is flimsy and relies on circumstances and speculation at best and is outright bullshit at worst. Even if this so called argument had any real validity then it should be clear to anyone with any brain power whatsoever that stolas never meant to coerce anyone!

"He is evil blueblood and deserves the guillotine" no stolas is as bout as much of a noble prick as a thumbtack and he had never once intentionally looked down on anyone and when he did it was never hateful it was simply out of ignorance unlike his wife who you constantly defend!

"Stella was made evil to justify his actions!" No you fools she was clearly always going to be a villain and contrary to what your pitiful Brains think females don't need to be sympathic or even competent and vivi isn't sexist for writing stella this way and for what it's worth I think stella serves her role quite well.

[big-royal-chicken]

Hey, this still holds true.

I LOVE STOLAS AND STOLITZ!!!

and if you’re an anti, kindly get the fuck off my blog.

Reminder that this is a pro-Stolas/Stolitz blog.

I know my boy is flawed and that their relationship is going through the wringer. But I will not accept brainless bashing of how he’s a “wimpy demon lord” or a “whiny prick”.

I love him and I will defend him.

[hellaversity]

Reminder that ch*footsteps is responsible for the Hazbin Hotel leaks. Not only has he tried to doxx Viv's siblings over Blitzker, he illegally tried to release fake footage of Hazbin Hotel season 2 without any permission from Vivizepop or SpindleHorse. Again, over a fictional ship between fictional characters. He became a hate-watcher and has been bashing Viv ever since Western Energy came out and got pissed that his fantasies of Striker "saving" Blitzø from his made up, fanon version of Stolas didn't become true. He has written several fanfics involving NTR and beastiality. The worst part is that he has many followers who support him and try to justify his actions. He started a whole cult and committed actual felonies over a damn ship. This man is a criminal and if posts on Twitter saying he's been thrown in jail because of the Hazbin leaks are telling the truth, god fucking bless because Ch*i is finally getting exactly what he deserves.

[yasmiralotta]

Thoughts on this video made by GaiXE?

I haven't watched it, and I don't want to. Because I can tell you already, for me at least, it wouldn't matter. Romantic realtionships are not about gender. It's about love. I mean, of course queer parings are going to be more popular because they are rarer to see. Like, hello, that's obvious. But saying that people would hate these parings if they were straight clearly hasn't been in alot of fandoms. And I'm not gonna lie, I don't even feel like giving them the time of day. It feels like rage baiting honestly 🫤

Thanks for your ask, I always love sharing my opinions 🤗❤️

[sopphic27]

Fun Fact: A lot of the Stolas antis compare him to Valentino off all people

H. How. What show are these people watching.

Okay so, this has been sitting in my drafts for a while, but let's get down to it. This post got wildly out of hand.

TL;DR: Valentino and Stolas have some superficial similarities, but Valentino is an abusive overlord who gained his power through exploitation and uses it to be abusive, meanwhile Stolas was incidentally born into his power and at worst is ignorant but well-meaning. Their behavior onscreen and interactions with their subordinates and their partners is night and day.

Valentino: a human sinner who is an overlord, so he owns countless souls of other sinners. He "employs" others demons as erotic dancers, adult film actors, and sex workers. I say "employs" in quotes, because I get the feeling that a lot of these people don't necessarily get a choice. He's blatantly manipulative, physically and sexually abusive, and generally just an asshole. For the sake of this comparison, I'm going to focus on his relationship with Angel Dust.

Stolas: a hellborn Goetia prince, he is said to have legions to command and share his knowledge with, and he canonically and on screen has a staff of servants, security, etc made up of (that we've seen) imps and hellhounds. His staff seems to have standard jobs such as serving meals, delivering messages, cleaning up, and whatnot. We don't know much more about them, however. He's socially anxious and awkward, very intelligent, and he behaves publicly in a very regal and reserved manner expected of a prince. In private, however, he seems more friendly and polite to the people he interacts with, with the exception of people he dislikes (e.g. Stella, Striker, Andrealphus). I'll focus on his relationship with Blitz pre-Apology Tour for this comparison, but I'm also going to address his interactions with his staff.

Before anything else, I'm going to call Angel and Blitz their "partners" even though that's not technically accurate. I'm not actually suggesting that Val and Angel are in a relationship or are each other's partners, same for Stolas and Blitz, but I don't have a better word for "the other person in the relationship".

So what are their similarities?

Both Valentino and Stolas are of higher status than their partner.

They are both demons that have magical abilities while their partners do not. (Comparatively. Angel Dust may have some abilities, but we haven't really seen him display them beyond some glowing eyes)

They're both much more powerful than their partners, physically, magically, and socially.

They have some sort of contract with their partner (Pre-Full Moon)

They both have a lot of employees and staff working for them.

They have red eyes.

They're, um. Skinny? I'm running out of similarities.

So I would say that they do have a number of superficial similarities, but I want to dive in to these similarities a little deeper.

Stolas was born into his status as a prince, so was Blitz as an imp. Say what you want about the social hierarchy in Hell, but they do live in a society, and imps are basically the bottom of the pyramid in Hell. The point is, Stolas didn't choose to become a prince, he just is. Valentino, however, had to climb to achieve his status. He died and manifested in Hell same as any other sinner, but he managed to climb the ladder, made deals to own other sinners' souls, amassed power, and after however long, became an overlord. To each their own, but in my opinion, this means that he chose to become an overlord by exploiting other sinners, just like any real life business mogul. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a monarchist, but being born into power and taking it by choice are still very different.

Similarly, their magic is very different. We haven't seen much magic from Val, but we know that he has a certain amount of power over Angel, he produces that pink liquid with unclear properties, and we know from other overlords that he probably has more abilities that we haven't seen. We have seen a few displays of Stolas's power, though. He can use telekinesis, create portals, possess people, turn people into stone with a look, etc, and he can transform into a giant owl monster. So yeah, he's crazy powerful. But again, Stolas was born into his power, he's a Goetia prince, he inherited and honed his magical abilities through study and practice. Overlords seem to gain a lot of their power by owning souls, though this isn't actually totally clear. Regardless, Valentino has power over Angel as a direct result of his contract owning his soul.

So both of them have definite power differences with their partners. The key difference, however, is how they use this power imbalance in their relationships. Valentino literally owns Angel's soul, he uses his power over Angel to control him, manipulate him, force him to do things, abuse him, etc. He is blatantly physically abusive to Angel, we see him hit Angel, drag him around, push him down, grab him by the neck, and yank on his chains. He's also very psychologically abusive, he threatens him and his friends, insults and demeans him, and holds his contract in front of him to remind him of their deal and make Angel feel helpless. He's just awful.

Stolas is very very different in how he treats Blitz and their relationship. I mean there's the obvious, he is never physically abusive toward Blitz. And before any of the Stella sympathizers come at me, he's never been physically abusive toward her either, he just BLOCKED her hand as she attempted to strike him. If you ask me, it seems like she has probably done that before! He never intentionally demeaned Blitz, he never tried to hold their agreement over his head, he doesn't even seem to have forced Blitz to do anything sexually against his will. Plus he's a fucking bottom. He is aware of their difference in power, but he never intentionally abuses it. The only times he's ever insulted Blitz were either teasingly (e.g. "Oh and your memory is so perfect? What's [Moxxie's] phone number? Exactly.") or after he had already ended their arrangement and was upset with him (e.g. during their argument in Apology Tour). Even then, it really comes off as him pointing out Blitz's flaws and his hypocrisies after Blitz broke his heart. If you were to compare the beginning of Apology Tour to any scene between Val and Angel, the difference is crystal fucking clear.

And let's talk about their contracts. Valentino, as previously stated, literally OWNS Angel's SOUL. It's written in ink and legally and magically binding. Literally. Whatever deal Angel made with Valentino is basically irrelevant since at the point in the show that we see, the only thing he really gets from Valentino is a job. He used to get housing, it seems, but he gave that up to live at the hotel. I don't think he gets any kind of protection, but that's just speculation on my part. For Angel, it seems like there is no way out of his deal with Valentino, only Val can release him, and he doesn't want to because Angel makes him money. Stolas and Blitz have basically a verbal agreement, made over the phone. "Favors for favors." Stolas lets Blitz use his grimoire, the spell book given to him to perform his royal duties, something that he's definitely not supposed to be lending out to anyone, let alone an imp. Blitz needs the grimoire to be able to get to Earth, which is the most important aspect of his business in killing living people. Stolas also needs the grimoire for his job, but he lends it to Blitz for all but one day of the month. In return, he asks Blitz to spend the night with him so they can have sex. Blitz agrees to this arrangement, very willingly, and in my opinion, he gets the better end of the deal, especially considering the fact that he seems to like fucking Stolas. Now, by definition, this arrangement lowkey makes Blitz a prostitute. He is exchanging sex for the ability to run his business. But this arrangement is not written down anywhere, it's just an agreement between Blitz and Stolas while they're both happy with their end of the deal. Eventually, however, Stolas doesn't feel happy with it anymore because he's developed genuine feelings for Blitz and is uncomfortable that he feels like he's exploiting Blitz. So he calls off the arrangement in the hopes that they can start a new relationship on equal footing. He gives Blitz the Asmodean Crystal, arguably a better tool for Blitz's business than the grimoire was because it's easier to use, and they no longer have to exchange sex for the grimoire. He gifts the crystal to Blitz, no strings attached, and tells him that he cares for him and wants him to stay. Even when the conversation goes south, Stolas doesn't take back the crystal or even indicate that it's something that he would do. It's Blitz who's then uncomfortable because he feels like he needs to be doing something to "earn" the crystal. But that's his baggage, and not the point right now. The point is that in Val and Angel's contract, Val has the more favorable end of the deal, and he's the only one who can end the contract between them, and he probably won't. In Stolas and Blitz's arrangement, Blitz had the better end of the deal, and either of them could have backed out of the deal, but ultimately Stolas chose to end it, and he made sure that Blitz didn't suffer any consequences to his business as a result of their deal ending.

Now moving away from the relationships with Angel and Blitz, both Val and Stolas have employees, lower status demons working for them. Val's employees are mostly sinners whose souls he (or one of the other Vee's) owns, and then there's Kitty, the off-brand Robo-Fizz. Based on how he treats Angel and the other actors and people around him, I think it's fair to say that he's not a very kind and considerate boss. He's physically and verbally abusive, he's controlling and demanding, he's short-tempered and violent, and he clearly has no respect for scheduled work hours since he calls Angel in whenever he fucking wants. We don't see Stolas interacting with his staff as much, but what we do see is pretty standard for how a royal might treat a servant, with a neutral and stoic attitude. He's not necessarily friendly to his staff from what we see, but at least he's not actively abusive. I mean compare how Stella treats the imp butler and how Stolas does.

She grabs him by the arm and throws him full force at the wall during an argument with Stolas, while also dehumanizing him (de-demonizing?). He shows up again a little later in a state. Poor guy. The worst he ever gets from Stolas is this:

Not great, but definitely not as violent as Stella. My interpretation of Stolas with his imp staff is that he's at worst negligent and careless with them, but he's not nearly as intentionally violent.

And I was joking about the physical similarities, the majority of the cast have red eyes. I'm not even taking shots at Vivzie's character design.

I don't know how this got so long, I just had a lot of thoughts.

[stupid-pig-came-home]

To the people who CONSTANTLY keep saying that Stolitz is bad, Stolitz is fan service, Stolitz is for the yaoi fangirls, Stolitz is this, Stolitz is that....

You do realize that the team has to write the scriptS plural FIRST, have the voice actors record their lines NEXT, and THEN the storyboard artists and the rough/clean up-animators and special effects artists get to do their part of the project with all the information and the material that they have, right, RIGHT?

And besides, Vivienne, Brandon, and Adam have to come to a SOLID AGREEMENT before anything actually gets recorded, or drawn, or animated.

So Stolitz is NOT happening because of creepy fangirls wanting to see two cute guys be together. Its just that FINALLY a fandom got a potential gay relationship becoming an actual loving couple within their series, and the "antis" and "haters" and "critics" are pissed off that their relationship is not being handled in a pure and squeaky clean manner,

or maybe it's because both are canonically male characters... (Blitz talks about his penis regularly, and Stolas was forced to get a woman pregnant and have a child. So yeah both are cis-male characters.) ...and that makes them icky gays, who fuck up their situations on the regular, and THE PEOPLE WHO HATE IT JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT, NO NO NO, the gays have to be perfect little cliches and stereotypes with little or no conflict or trauma, or serious problems in their lives because that makes GAY PEOPLE A LITTLE TOO REAL FOR THEM, A LITTLE TOO HUMAN FOR THEM IF YOU WILL.

So, yeah screw the "antis", "critics", and "haters" and all silly names that these people were labeled, I'm pro-stolitz coming together and working their shit out and becoming a loving couple and blending their family. 💕🖕🖕🖕🖕🦉🦎

[helluvaneurospicy]

EDIT BC I FORGOT-TW FOR MENTION OF ABUSE, INCEST, PEDO, AND RACISM

o done with stolitz and stolas antis atp

Idc if you ship blitz with a character other than stolas as long as it’s not problematic(like incest or adult/child)

But I’m so done with stolas and stolitz antis. SO DONE

If you follow me and are a stolas basher/claim that he’s not a victim and a horrible demon, unfollow me. Please.

It’s almost like characters raised in an environment filled with racism and bigoted things will turn out to have that ingrained in them and o need to work on that

It’s also almost like characters who are systematically abused and forced to mature too quickly and feel horrible all the time don’t have the energy or time to work on their issues

It’s almost like characters who are ALSO abused and go through the trauma of losing their family way too early with no support, and have deep rooted self hatred that will take a LONG time to root out and deal with aren’t the characters to help other characters deal with their ingrained racism on top of abuse and early maturity(imagine yourself having a kid at 18. Stolas did. He was abused during this time.)

Yes they both have issues, yes they both have trauma, yes Stolas was/is abused/being abused by Stella

This is the hill I will die on.

[etherealabyss11037]

To all my Stolitz Shippers and Haters out there, what’s your opinion on these two fuckidoodles?

They’ve got a lot of issues to work on, but I genuinely believe they can work it out and be happy together once they’ve resolved their personal problems and accept themselves enough to believe their feelings for each other are worthwhile.

2. I believe they could be a good couple, but I’m afraid they’ve got too many issues between them to ever be a healthy, functional couple together and are destined to be star crossed lovers.

3. Idk man, I don’t really care about Stolitz in general.

4. This ship was built on a toxic foundation, and I don’t know if they can proceed with a truly normal, loving relationship in part because of their mutual baggage and communication issues.

5. Blitzo and Stolas need to stop seeing each other and/or start seeing other people, because they simply can’t work in the state they’re in.

6. This is genuinely one of the most dysfunctional, messy ships I’ve seen and can’t understand why the show or fans what it to happen, because there’s nothing about this relationship worth salvaging.

[darklinaforever]

This episode just killing me... in the best way possible !

[big-royal-chicken]

Fandom Puritanism needs to die right the fuck now. “Stolitz is toxic!” No it’s not you media illiterate twat, it’s complicated and nuanced and that’s what makes it interesting.

My bets are this person also thinks Stella is the innocent victim in all this.

Also, if this is “suffering” then stop watching it. Stolitz is the main ship of the series and they’ll be by the end of it. COPE.

[big-royal-chicken]

Puritans: “Stolitz is toxic!!! 😭😭😭”

Me:

[callmekatydid]

“Wait no not like that.”

OR: Results? To MY own self-sabotage? More likely than you’d think!

OR: I don’t CARE that the prophecy was self-fulfilling, I’m still angry about it! 😤

OR: Blitzø sweetie pie please go to therapy I know this great lady with a hotel where you do trust falls and talk about your feelings she’s like a block away from your office just pop in for thirty seconds please I’m begging you 🥺

[hellaversity]

Holier than thou attitude combined with total hypocrisy, since 9 times out of 10 every time someone hates Stolitz for being "toxic" they turn around and ship something way more toxic than it, like Blitzker, RadioApple, RadioStatic or VoxVal. They're just mad Stolitz gets more attention than THEIR favorite toxic yaoi ship. And that's when they aren't being straight up homophobic. Both parties are usually part of the hate-watcher crowd, too.

It's not like I can't understand why some people would hate Stolitz, I get it's not for everyone and we all have our own ship preferences (also, Idk about y'all, but I literally have no control over who I ship with who, either the ship chooses me or it doesn't).

But it's the "holier than thou" attitude these haters have that I cannot fucking stand. Acting like Stolitz can only be valid if it's the most healthy pure relationship imaginable, instead of the layered complicated mess that makes them so appealing in the first place. Like, we're talking about fictional ships in a fictional world here, not real life partners, so don't judge them like that.

I mean, I also have a HB ship that I hate and have blacklisted, because seeing it pisses me off and grosses me out (not even because of "unhealthy" reasons, I just hate it because I hate it), but I acknowledge that's my own problem to deal with and as long as people tag it properly and don't shove this ship in my face, we're cool.

And I assume most people have no idea what ship I'm even talking about, unless you're really good at guessing based on what ship I never post about on here or if I happened to have told you directly, because it came up in conversation.

[lilstolas]

diversity win! the silly little imp you've had a crush on since childhood wants to spend every sinsmas with you as a family for the rest of his pan ass life!!!1!

[big-royal-chicken]

I think Stolas/Stolitz antis should go back to watching cocomelon- since the relationships in this show are too complex for their media-illiterate minds to handle.

[hellaversity]

The fact they want Stolas to get back with his abuser speaks volumes. And OF FUCKING COURSE it's a Blitzika shipper. Those are always the biggest homophobes in this fandom.

I love when Stolitz antis slip and reveal the real reason why they're against it:

Because it's a gay ship.