#They wouldn't have formed those connections without the trauma
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dreamerdrop · 26 days ago
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Garashir just ticks like. Every box in every way, in thousands of different ways, all at once.
The moral ambiguity. The trauma. The angst. The shared sense of humour. The age gap. The constantly switching power dynamics between two people who refuse to be open with anyone, including themselves. The inherent "I know I don't always know you but I trust you and I'll do this for you" that comes with all of that.
The refusal to walk away, the mutual fascination and obsession, the willingness to bend their own sense of self to try and see the other more clearly.
They are both so traumatised and so lonely and have so much difficulty connecting to others, but they form such an immediate easy connection that goes beyond being friends or not friends. They are both so terrified of someone seeing them for exactly who they are because they think that person is grotesque and unlovable, but they're not.
Neither of them is the monster they think they are, and they see that in each other but not in themselves. Even when they aren't together, even when they aren't around, their character arcs are so wrapped up in what they've brought to one another.
Julian becoming darker, letting go of so much idealism out of fear of losing those he loves, and Garak stepping up, slowly becoming a person he thought he could never be, someone who is kind and heroic, even if he'll still do horrible things, he will do them because he's doing it to help someone who needs that help, for the greater good. Garak demonstrating through the person he becomes that Julian was never, never wrong for trusting him, for believing in him, for forgiving him.
Garak becoming someone through the war who validates all the idealism that the war made Julian try to kill off inside himself, that he thankfully never really could.
They're both self-sacrificing to a fault, Julian revels in it, wraps himself in it as a defence from all his self-loathing and pain, and Garak tries so hard to deny it to himself, to pretend he would never put anyone ahead of himself, ahead of Cardassia, but he does, again and again. He is far more selfless than he gives himself credit for, and likewise, Julian deserves far more selfishness than he allows himself to indulge in.
The shared pride and hubris giving way to the broken foundations they were both raised upon, moulded into someone they hated by parents who let them down, by a universe that couldn't see them beyond labels and histories and crimes. So closely guarded with names chosen for themselves, peppering hints of themselves without ever giving enough away to anyone who won't work for it.
But they do work for it, for each other. They see those little hints, they piece them together for each other because it matters, it matters if it's for them.
They're mirror images and opposites and so different and so similar, and they wouldn't be who they are without each other, pulling them along into becoming someone new.
I don't care if they were in love or not, it's such a tiny speck in the giant abstract mess that is their entire relationship. Lovers, friends, family, a spy and his mark, a doctor and his patient, a friendly acquaintance, a distant former comrade, it doesn't matter.
They're just... everything.
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keruimi · 9 months ago
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His Only Exception
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Obanai x reader
Warning: Angst and comfort. Platonic Relationship. I have so many ideas for Obanai but it's tiring to make sure its plot is not repeating. But I hope you enjoy this one!
Would you choose the Moon that was in your darkest time, or the Sun that brightened the whole world you lived in?
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Ever since I was born, I was taught how cruel the world can be. Born from a family of broken people, I was raised to close my emotions.
To be the master of it before it became my reason of failure.
I remained detach to the people around me, maintain the acquaintance nature with them.
Until I met him at the age of 13.
Someone who was scared of me the first time we met.
"Please calm down. I won't harm you" I tried to soften my voice down to calm the boy brought by the Flame Hashira, Rengoku Shinjuro.
Kanae-san assigned him to me since we were at the same age and she is still helping out the injured ones from a mission.
She saw me as the only suitable person to tend him.
I set down the kit I was holding as I gave him a side glance who was looking at me warily.
I walked towards the window with a sigh and opened it to let the fresh breeze of the day in.
In hopes that he won't suffocate with my presence.
This was the first time I felt clueless about a situation. I really don't know how to act next.
My first hesitation...
If I approach him now or try to make him lower his guard on me, it could start a fragile relationship between the two of us.
The actions I thought wouldn't help our situation at all.
If Kanae-san was the one doing it, with her good personality, he would trust her.
But I don't know how to show kindness to a person who was violated by his own family.
He has his own traumas, his own fear. And if I directly confront those, it would break the communication between us that haven't even started.
I looked around the room as I looked for something that could relax him.
"Where is Rengoku-san?" I heard him mutter under his breath that made me turn my head to look at him.
Thank goodness he started the conversation first.
"Rengoku-san is preparing for another mission" I answered his question before I took a book from one of the shelves.
It might help him escape from the reality he experienced.
"If you don't mind me asking, do you love reading?" I ask him without my usual monotone voice so I can quickly heal him.
I need to finish this...
He slowly shook his head that made me nod before offering him the book I took.
"Well this might be one of the times you will need it" I offered it to him as I saw how his gaze fell on it.
"I don't know how to"
It felt like my world stopped when I heard those words from him.
The time I finally found a crack on his walls...
I didn't realize how my eyes shone from his words before a smile lifted from my lips.
"Let me teach you then. So you know a way you can escape the world we live in."
Reading a book that was never connected to the real world can heal and change his perspective about the society we lived in.
It was supposed to be a way to get him comfortable with me in just one moment.
I never knew I would cherish it on my entire life.
That day was the first time I gave effort on communicating with someone. The first time I forgot my fears that I might experience the more I continue my actions.
The first time I really stayed for someone else's comfort.
Ever since that time, there was no day I didn't visit him in his room as he slowly healed from my guidance.
Mostly everyone knew how important he was for me.
The first person I opened my heart with.
"Iguro, open your arms like this" I showed it my arms that were wide open like it was welcoming a hug.
He sighed knowing where this would lead to and he didn't hesitate opening his arms to embrace my form.
"Thank you" I whispered as I basked in the warmth of his embrace.
He never fails to silently comfort me on my lowest. When everything became overwhelming when I started to change for him.
From a nonchalant person to a caring one.
Most of the people in the Demon Slayer Corps were shocked by the change that happened when he entered my life.
Even me...
He is not aware of the effect he had on me.
But maybe because of my happiness that I became a light to someone's life. I became someone valuable to their life because I chose to be kind.
When I didn't push anyone nor question what hurt them.
It made me love myself. It made me yearn for the happiness I should experience because I deserved it.
I thought I deserved it.
Until he became a hashira, that became the beginning of our bond that was slowly breaking.
The time he became strict with my practice, the more he wanted me to push myself to my limits so I can become stronger.
For the reasons I never knew.
The times when I saw his tired gaze on mine. When I sometime sense him almost giving up on me.
It continues to ruin me.
I never really wished to become a fighter, but I chose to, so I can be beside him.
So I can keep reminding him that I was still beside him.
But the more our strength became different, the more I felt him slowly slipping from my grip.
I don't want to lose him...
Because I knew I wouldn't be able to handle it.
I train everyday so I can reach his expectations. Yet there is one thing I am afraid the most...
And that is when the time will come he would see me differently than before if I failed his expectations he set for me.
My father's words of not letting anyone change me was ignored knowing that if I don't experience this challenges...
If I keep running away from it, I would never gain anything.
That's what I keep telling myself so I can continue everyday.
Until she entered his life that I noticed I was not that someone significant to his life compared to him in my life.
Mitsuri Kanroji, the first person that introduced me to the emotion called 'jealousy'.
Almost 7 years of my growing affection for the serpent Hashira, without any effort, she managed to catch his eyes because of her extraordinary strength.
The thing he wants me to have.
It made me so wary of her that I didn't notice the toxic personality I had would be shown to her.
Yet her kindness made me doubt myself more. Knowing him, he would never like my treatment for her.
So I just ignored her.
But the more my insecurities show up, the more I notice his presence disappearing from my life.
That I always saw him with her.
The time I already knew that I was the one who lost him.
The first man who made me cry for so many nights. The first man who made me love myself...
And the first person who made me hate it.
If I let myself experience the hardships of life, there can be a chance I can become someone strong like he is.
If I just didn't cower, if I just got out of my comfort zone, I could become a better version of the person than who I am now.
No matter how much I tried to look for him, to approach him. The thought that I would ruin his moment with her halt me from my actions.
That the bond I was trying to save by myself, was finally drowning.
From being his friend, to becoming someone who gazed at him from far away.
I started to notice his treatment on her compared to others.
She was the only exception from his strict and merciless personality. Because even I, experienced it.
The more I saw the difference between me and her, the more my mental health deteriorated.
The main reason I started to become more distant to him, until my mere presence completely became like a wind.
The reason I started to question my real worth to the people around me. To the people I tried to not connect with because I already have him.
So this is what my life was before he entered it. It was really lonely...
I felt a tear fall from my eyes as I stood on top of the hill as I gazed at the headquarters I lived my whole life with.
Having this moment, it made me question if I regret letting him enter my heart. Because if I didn't, I would never cry for something I already expected.
My Father told me how difficult to overcome the first heartbreak.
It was indeed difficult.
It felt like my air was cut off as my chest tighten from overthinking.
But am I really overthinking?
I can hear my harbored breaths as I try to stop the feeling of agony from consuming me.
The torment I made myself experience, the suffering I knew I would feel the moment I soften up to someone else.
This is the thing I feared the most.
That my mind will become my own enemy.
I really shouldn't have...
I regret-
"Y/n?" I felt my body went numb the moment I heard him behind me.
After a year of being distant to him, my destiny let me confront the person I have been avoiding.
Is this one way of improving?
Is this the moment I need to overcome this obstacle so I can learn?
I didn't know it would be difficult.
I can't even find the strength to face him. After I finally manage to set my mind in one thing, I let the cold breeze of the night dried my tears before I manage to face him.
His gaze greatly reminded me of my old self.
The one who always held a blank stare. Something that would be difficult for the other person to interpret the emotions hidden beneath those eyes.
What is it?
That's one thing I want to let out of those very moment but I didn't manage.
I want to stay away from him so it would hurt less.
But my movement completely did the opposite that I found myself walking toward his direction as I just let my head rest on his shoulder.
Our surrounding were silent as he can't find the words to express what is currently happening right now.
Even I don't know why I did it. But I just needed something, a comfort so I can find the strength to walk away.
But thinking about 'comfort', I felt myself stain his haori as my tears I am trying to hide finally fell.
Yet I didn't let out a sound.
I just let the tears express the emotion I am feeling right now.
It hurts...
It really does...
I felt his hand slowly raise to gently caress my hair that made me snuggle deeper in his shoulder. My actions made him put his hand on my head to keep me still.
"What's wrong?" He ask in a whisper that made me want to just broke down sobbing.
Why am I crying? Do I have the rights to even cry for my one-sided love at him?
"Y/n" he called for my name again when he notice my body was staring to tremble as I try to prevent my cries from being heard.
"I don't know why I love you" I cried out as I pulled away and covered my face with my palm.
"I want to remove those feelings for you because it hurts" I continue as I tried my best to breath.
"I don't want to keep loving you"
"Y/n"
I remove my hands from my face as I let the tears freely fall on my cheeks as I put my eyes on our surrounding, except for him.
Because I can't face him.
"She is perfect for you. You both look so perfect that made me almost forget I used to be there. I was the one who used to be beside you" I stated between quick inhales like I was barely able to breath.
"I just wish for our memories to disappear like bubble so it wouldn't hurt-" I put my hands on my head in frustration as I uttered those words but I felt his hands on top of mine when he heard me let out those words.
"Y/n please"
"Why do you need to abandon me!" I cried out as I can't keep to myself the feeling I felt for almost a year.
Those days made me feel so lonely and useless. It showed me how much I reached in life.
"I..." I trailed off as I felt him pull my body towards him as he surrounded his haori on my trembling body.
"I felt so lonely" I sobbed out as I felt his arms around me tighten as he just let me cry on his shoulders.
"I never wished to be somebody else until you chose her" I keep letting out the thoughts that keep repeating in my head on those periods of time. The thoughts that ruined the love I have for myself.
"I'm trying my best, I really am" I whispered as he tightened his arms around me.
"You have no idea..."
He shushed me down when we both started to notice how my words are getting more breathless the more I talk.
"Deep breaths"
I clutch my eyes shut as I felt it sting a little. I finally snuggled myself more on his embrace as I tried to control my emotions.
"Is this friendship, still surviving?" I ask him as I look at his own eyes that made him lean his forehead on mine.
"Of course. More than you thought"
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"Did you really leave me?" I asked him the question that needed an answer while I stared at his back as he looked at the scenery from my window.
"No"
"But ever since she arrived, I can't remember any day that you were with me"
My body felt more relaxed now but the slight feeling of numbness on my chest is still present as I found him making his way over to my bed.
"I'm sorry" he sat beside me as he pulled my head to rest on his shoulder.
"I was not aware of how wrong I treated you" he mumbled as my eyes softened from his words.
"I wanted you to learn to protect yourself. I didn't mean to make you measure your worth just because of my expectations."
I felt Kaburamaru slither around my neck as his owner ran his fingers on my hair to soothe my emotions down.
"I was not confident that I could protect you. I'm sorry that I pressured you into something that is not your forte."
I removed my head from his shoulder as I lay down on my bed when the fatigue, physically and mentally, finally entered my system.
"But why didn't you spend time with me anymore?" I asked him as I put my hand above his own ones as I heard him sigh.
"Hashira has tight schedules. We always need to train and go to missions. When I saw you cry while I was training you, I decided to not continue and let you do the usual things you did before"
He started as I saw him look over to me. I felt him squeeze my hand that made me look up to him with my drowsy eyes.
"I didn't manage to make time for you"
I heard how his voice broke from that sentence as he give a quick grip on my hand before letting it loose.
"Mitsuri is a hashira so I need to be with her. But of course, that can't be my reason, right?" He looks over to me as I lift a small smile, urging him to continue.
"But she was the only one willing to be in my presence and I let her. I started to miss you but I can't find you anywhere. And if I did, you are urgently helping shinobu at the mansion"
"Maybe that's why I treated her less harshly than the others" he sighed out.
"But it doesn't mean I love her like how I love you" I felt my chest warmed from his words that I almost forgot what I went through.
But I need more reasons. And without being told on, he keeps going. He is not defending himself, he was simply expressing because he knows I would understand him.
"It was my fault that I made you feel that way. It dawned on me that I really don't know you" he whispered as I saw how his eyes softened.
"I never had someone cherish me more than themself"
A tear fell from his eyes as he wiped it before gazing at me.
"Give me another chance to treat you right. I promise, I'll be better"
I sat up on the bed as I rested my chin on his shoulder. "Did you romantically like her?"
"No" he answered without any hesitation that made me wrap my arms around his waist.
"Even if I did, she would just remind me of you. After all, you were the one I was scared to lose"
"I'm sorry" he mumbled that made me lift a small smile on my lips.
"Make time for me please. Being a Hashira made you lose time for me" I uttered as he wrapped his arm around my waist before pulling me closer to him.
"I will give you my time" he assured me that made me smile and land a quick peck on his cheeks before I laid down again.
"Stay with me tonight. I want to cherish this moment with you" I told him that made him let out a small smile, based from his eyes before I pull him to my bed and he wasted no time to wrap his arms around me.
I am finally back at his arms again...
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thesweetnessofspring · 8 months ago
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"Peeta coerced Katniss into a relationship" - He literally said that he liked her, she had no idea who he was until the Reaping, and got in with the Careers to protect her so they wouldn't have to interact much in the actual Games. In his mind, the most she would have to do is answer questions after she won about how she felt about him. Maybe say some nice things about him and wistfully say she wished they'd gotten a chance to know each other. Then go home and live her life however she could after. Even Katniss admits that Peeta made her memorable and secured her sponsors, which gave her burn cream and food. Peeta manipulated the Capitol and never even came clean to Katniss that he'd really, actually liked her for a long time until the cave--after she had risked her life to save him. Prior to that, there is an understanding between both of them that they're acting to save both of their lives. Look me in the eye and tell me that all of this was a grand plan for Peeta to lock Katniss down. Haymitch even says it--"he wanted it to be real." Like you think Peeta fantasized this is how he would first get to know Katniss? That was Plan A? That he knew the Capitol would "let" two victors win? Or, that when the audience wasn't looking, he was forcing and guilting her into being in love with him for real?
"Peeta made Katniss feel bad about not liking him back" - This traumatized sixteen-year-old amputee who just got back from hell didn't perfectly respond to thinking someone who was willing to die with him rather than live in a world without him actually wasn't sure of her feelings. The horror. Hang him for being upset and hurt! And how absolutely awful of him to apologize for being hurt and offering to be friends! Other than Katniss knowing he loved her and she wasn't sure how she cared for him, what did he do to make her feel bad? What did he do on purpose to bring out those feelings in her?
"Peeta was the Capitol's choice, not Katniss's" - Right, because I'm sure the Capitol absolutely loved the fact that the two of them outsmarted the Gamemakers and starting the rebellion with those berries--they wanted that and NOT the highly emotional, dramatic death of one of them, the reminder that humanity is evil and must be controlled. Snow just loved that so much, he thanked Seneca Crane by killing him.
"Peeta didn't know Katniss" - ok, and? That's like, literally most of the human population who don't know each other from birth? They had known each other for a year prior to Snow holding Peeta hostage. Then they had their unspecified amount of time where they "grow back together."
"They're only together because of the shared trauma of the Games" - Suzanne made it abundantly clear that these two get along really well and have a connection before the Games. Even without the bread (although that is a cornerstone of their relationship forming) the way they both silently agree to take care of Haymitch instead of call an attendant, the way they sell each other's strengths to Haymitch, the way they flirt during the Opening Ceremonies, and just about everything else points to them having a natural chemistry and interest in one another. And also, literally, what do you think make relationships stronger? Everything going perfectly, or having someone help you through a hard time, proving you can trust them to keep you safe? With this anti-shared-trauma mindset, no one in this world can love anyone else because they all have shared trauma of their oppression. Only Capitol/District matches here, people! Hayffie shippers only.
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bl00dlight · 4 months ago
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In your most recent ask you spoke about how Ewan said Aemond has the code to be able to walk out on people thus he wouldn't allow himself to be vulnerable/being loved can't help him. But I also have to remind you that Ewan also said that Alicent would be the exception to that code, he wouldn't be able to walk out on her for example, and he also said, and I quote; "I think that's the only way you can beat Aemond, is with love." So I'd argue that saying he'd refuse to be loved or refuse to be genuinely close to someone isn't quite correct. Because talking about show Aemond, I think Ewan has been making it quite clear that Aemond would be willing to be close to people who care for him. All I'm saying is that I don't think things are so black and white, I think Aemond, the one from the show at least, would be able and willing to form connections.
I mean yes, no I agree. I said that he'd be able to form connections.
But I think what Ewan meant by that quote isn't "you can fix Aemond with love." It's that you can BEAT Aemond with love. Those are two separate ideas. What Ewan meant was, in that context of him saying that was to do with why he kicked Alicent out of the council room. Which I talk about, and Ewan talks about Aemond not wanting Alicent in the room because she MAKES him vunerable/emotional. And Aemond doesn't want to feel those things, he doesn't want to be put in a position of weakness. He is a character defined by fear. And for him genuine vunerablity = fear.
What Ewan meant is, you can dampen his worst impulses with love. But you can't make him feel more secure with love. Because love makes him feel vunerable aka beaten/weak. Love doesn't mean you'd fix him. Because what happens when you trigger his insecurities? What happens when you do what Alicent and Helaena both do and point out he is violent/cruel?
I think it's a deeply unrealistic idea to frame Aemond as basically, he'd call the whole thing off, this entire personality would go from violent, power hungry, controlling etc
To loving family man - if he is just given some love/care/affection.
He literally PAYS the Madame to do that exact thing and still walks out on her. Because she means nothing to him. He was confessing something which is MASSIVELY vunerable - that he feels guilty for Lucerys - he exposes himself completely to her; yet feels nothing for her. He can just abandon her. Which is Ewan says is Aemonds philosophy. Don't get attached. You can't get hurt if you're not attached.
“Don’t let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.” That’s the code his character utilizes so he’s able to maneuver around this world without getting caught by Al Pacino."
But unless you were his family members (the ones he actually cares about) Unless you were Alicent and Helaena - he'd be using you as a substitute. Which Ewan also talks about Aemond finding substitutes for that love he so desperately wants. A substitute is not the same thing.
He hasn't exactly been very kind to Alicent has he? When she puts her hands on him he pushes them away after he told her to go back to 'domestic pursuits'. He has trash talked her all season, called her weak.
I think in season 1, yea. His character would be more willing to be close to others: but his character was in a place of greater stablity.
But season 2 is a whole different story. He is like 18 years old and has experienced an unbelievable amount of trauma in the span of a few months. And now? All the stablity he once has is completely gone. Remember, trauma is something that pulls you further and further down into your worst impulses. Why? Because it's a survival reflex. Aemond in s2 has lost ALLLLLLL the love/stablity he once had with his mother/family. Which again, was already very dysfunctional anyway. But it was managed. And Aemond wasn't in a position of power like he now is.
Alicent tries to be close with him.
I don't think you've quite interpreted what I was saying, I wasn't saying Aemond would refuse love/care - in fact I have a whole section discussing how that's exactly what he wants. Only it wouldn't be a functional idea of love and care for the person who was giving it to him.
The ask was specifically asking me how I think he'd behave in a relationship where he is loved and cared for. And I said... well exactly how he behaves with Alicent and Helaena (who both do love and care for him).
I mean, if you want to take Alys for an example - we don't really know what their relationship was like or the dynamic. But just from the fact in the books there was clearly, a romantic element to it - Aemond isn't fixed. He gets worse. He grows more violent, more wrathful, more vengeful. He kills and destroys everything around him whenever he feels the slightest bit threatened or insulted.
And if we apply that to show Aemond? Well... yea makes sense. Alys would just be another substitute. He can siphon what he wants as long as he has power. He can let you get close as long as you never threaten him, as long as he never starts to feel like he might be vunerable in the relationship.
As I said - I never said Aemond can't form connections. He can and he does. I said those connections wouldn't be stable. Put it this way, Alicent is Aemond's greatest vunerablity. And he treats her like shit now that she has turned away from him.
How could a man who has never been shown unconditional love? Ever express that? I don't think I'm being black and white. I think it's actually more black and white to interpret what Ewan said as equalling Aemond is easily fixed with love. Because it's not what he said. He said he is BEATEN by it.
And what does Aemond not want? To be beaten. He doesn't want to feel vunerable or weak. So why would he lean into that if he feels he is going to be beaten? And why would he distance himself from Alicent to the point of stripping her from her only power - if it wasn't for the fact that his love for her makes him feel vunerable?
It's black and white to think Aemond is uncomplicated enough that he would just change his entire way of being for love.
He wouldn't. Love threatens him. It beats him.
And the only way to negate any of that would be to basically give in to whatever he wanted, whenever he wants. To have no power, never complain if he mistreated you or others etc.
Again, S1 proves that even with the stablity of his family - he still lashes out towards others. You're forgetting that Aemond wasn't just hurt by Alicent. He was hurt by HIS ENTIRE FAMILY. His brother, his nephews, his cousins, his half-sister, his father. They all neglected him/bullied him etc. This man would not trust anyone lmao. And he literally doesn't we see that time and time again.
Alicent was the only one who ever stood up for him. He is attached to her.
And Helaena too, Helaena has likely never questioned him before or made him feel bad. They share an affinity for being the outsiders so she has only ever made him feel comforted most likely.
It's not until Alicent and Helaena turn away from him - that he fucken loses it on them. Okay Alicent was rightfully upset with Aemond in episode 1 of s2 for killing Luke and he has been hating on her ever since?
Aemond literally assaults Helaena when she refuses the idea that she would help him kill people.
Yea, you could get "close" to him - but my whole post was that being close to him wouldn't be you were exempt from his abuse. And any love/care he feels for you wouldn't be something he LEANS into unconditionally. Because his ego/his wounds are bigger than just that. It's not black and white to see that.... any connection with him would be dysfunctional.
I explicitly stated he is absolutely capable of love and care and connection. But my whole post was about the fact... it would be a nightmare and wouldn't be how you think of love/care/connection. We are talking about a man who has more power then like... well, in a sense he's the equivalent to a billionaire with a nuke - who also rules the world. Oh and also he has been abused and traumatised.
There is a zero percent chance he would form healthy attachments/connections.
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annierosaart · 2 years ago
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Exusiai, Sankta Empathy and why she's unique
With @ouroborosorder's encouragement, I've decided to make a full post about this topic, because it's been destroying my brain for the past month.
Mainly, after reading Guide Ahead, Enforcer's files and seeing all of Exusiai's appearances, I've noticed a lot of implications about her character that are killing me inside.
Those being that she's cut off from the Empathy, like Mostima (and Enforcer! More on that in a bit), and always has been, and that cascaded into an extreme amount of isolation and trauma for her.
I'll explain this bit by bit, because it is. A lot. So, read more!
The Empathy, falling and being cut off from it.
As we know from Mostima, when Sankta fall, they lose not just their patron gun, but also their emotional connection to other Sankta. This is common knowledge of course. But what's less common is the fact that you don't need to fall to lose that connection.
Falling causes it, but we have another canonical, explicit example of it happening without that, and a heavily implied one.
The canonical explicit one being one of the protagonists of the Guide Ahead event:
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Enforcer, aka Ezell himself! We find this out through his Post-E2 dialogue:
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While this can be interpreted a few ways... The CN text is much less ambiguous;
"萨科塔人能察觉互相的心情,这在我们之间是一种不必特地强调的常识。但是很遗憾,在某个时刻,我忽然发现自己失去了那种同族间的感应。不是身体上的病变,我只是......开始思考。"
Roughly translating to:
"Sankta can sense each other's moods, and this is a common fact among us that does not need to be specially emphasized. But sadly, at some point, I suddenly found myself losing that sense of communion/kinship among my people. It wasn't any form of injury/ailment, I just …… started thinking."
What this is implying is pretty clear. Falling is not the only way to lose that connection, being different enough, independent enough, also cuts you off from it. Which leads me to my next point that ties this all together:
How this relates to Exusiai
It's no secret by now that Exusiai was treated like shit by Laterano. But something that stood out to me about her treatment was that, after Guide Ahead, we learned most Sankta are quite like her. So why is she unique? Why was she treated differently for her actions?
Well.
From the get go, her file reveals that she's different from most Sankta:
"She is different from most Laterano in that she is an unabashed optimist." - File 1
"Exusiai is my polar opposite. She seems to get along fine with anyone, but lets very few people close to her." — Texas
Weirdly specific things to mention, which get even stranger when you read her module.
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It feels weird for her to be grilled so hard on something like this, especially when we know that her incidents were all legitimate accidents (as per Texas's record). Why? Because, if she's a Sankta, it should be easy, or at least, easier, for the counselors to believe what she's saying if she's telling the truth.
Instead, they accuse her of lying, hiding something, of being a Sarkaz (racism alert)... Despite the fact that it's difficult for Sankta to hide things like that from others. Because of their connection with each other. So why do they treat her like this?
They even prove her point by hurting themselves with her gift, she never means to hurt anyone, so why do they treat her so harshly?
Because she's never had this connection.
From the accounts we get of her childhood, we know she's been:
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Ditched multiple times by her sister and Mostima, despite the fact that Lemuen cares immensely for Exusiai, so, the fact this is a repeat occurrence feels out of character for her. Why would she hurt Exusiai so blatantly?
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Has canonical PTSD from the Kazdel incident, enough that she gets upset just thinking about it, and again, no one who could have felt that did anything to comfort her. Otherwise, she wouldn't be so obsessed with getting closure on it.
(Just like a certain phoenix....)
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We know the Sankta literally celebrated her leaving, despite the fact Sankta destroy shit daily, just for funsies. She was chased down by the Notarial Hall because???
All of these feel so odd, contradictory, if she was connected to the other Sankta. That's a big if. Because the truth is, it all makes sense if we go with the big possibility that she just... Never had it to begin with.
It explains why she's treated harshly, unfairly. Why she doesn't let people get close, why she's seemingly "gullible", because she was surrounded by people who were "in on it", while she never was.
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It's especially emphasized by her record medal, that draws attention to how she makes her own choices, despite seemingly being a "standard Sankta".
This recontextualizes her entire character, because frankly? Her happy-go-lucky attitude is a big fucking mask. We just need to look at two of her lines to see this. Her idle line, and her promotion 2 line.
Her promotion 2 line would only happen in the context of her being trusted, and trusting the Doctor in return, with their life and her own life, respectively.
"Leader… No, savior, I pledge to this gun in my hand to protect you until the very end of this world."
Which comes off as out of nowhere for such an unserious girl, doesn't it? And then, you have her idle line, which only happens when the Doctor is assumed to be asleep... And thus not listening to her.
"…Lord, is this someone we gotta save too?"
We see this mask slip away every time Mostima is involved, when people get hurt, she suddenly turns dead serious, quiet. Reserved. Not at all like the Exusiai we assume her to be.
Closer to a... Lemuel.
Hell, she even canonically drinks the most out of all the PL members. Do with that what you will.
Further proof is her kindness. She's canonically the kindest, most generous member of PL. And we see that a lot, she tries to keep Bison up to date on what's going on, she worries for her friends being hurt, she dives head first into danger for them. Despite the fact none of them are Sankta.
When it's canon that Sankta are just... Cold. Distant towards other races, because of their Empathy with each other. It's only natural. Yet, she manages to be kind all the same. Understanding all the same.
And this all truly comes together when you realize Sankta can just... Lose that connection.
To summarize:
The implications of Exusiai's character, of Lemuel's character is that she's one of the few non-fallen Sankta who also lack a connection to other Sankta, and that... That has colored how she acts around people. How she deals with the Kazdel incident. How she copes.
Exusiai's entire personality is a coping mechanism.
One that falls away when she lets her guard down. One that's deeply unhealthy-- She's broke all the time, she's constantly mentioned getting drunk, she doesn't let anyone in, she doesn't talk about her issues.
She ends up paralleling a lot of Fiammetta's character in a way that I adore. She needs a hug. She needs closure. Someone who gets it. And Fiammetta would.
As a bonus:
Fiammetta is weirdly protective of Exusiai.
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(From Mostima's Record)
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Fiammetta's medal text weirdly parallels Exusiai's...
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Fiammetta says these after seeing Mostima blatantly toy with Exusiai's feelings all night...
Food for thought.
Sorry if this is disjointed, I just. Have a lot to say about her.
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pocketdaan · 2 years ago
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Moonscorch is both the right and wrong term for why Daan "transforms" into Pocketcat, imo.
right, in that Pocketcat is a servant of the Moon God and Daan's being transformed via Moon God methods alongside the Moonscorchification Beam lighting him up.
wrong, in that Daan wouldn't have had Pocketcat haunting him if Daan hadn't experienced a fucked childhood trauma + gotten involved with Sulfur Cultists, so this isn't his Moonscorch form in an ideal world where Daan didn't go through those.
For sure it's not the same type of Moonscorching that others go through, though. Their Moonscorch is meant to expose what's inside but Pocketcat has always been outside of Daan.
(Long theories and analyses under the readmore...)
If you strip them away from the context of Old Gods and look at them as separate people, Pocketcat and Daan aren't much related. Aside from vague connections like upperclass life / their attire / pocket-hand. And while Pocketcat can embody an abuse cycle (in the sense of Daan doing things based off of his childhood experience), that's what Pocketcat is, with or without Daan. He's more of an external thing.
That Moonscorch transformation scene... Pocketcat is crawling out of Daan's body like a parasite slowly sapping the life out of its host. I think it's less of Daan becoming convinced and more of Daan submitting to Pocketcat's wills. When the last sentence goes "The mask and jacket fit you perfectly!" it's not what Daan's thinking/feeling. "Daan" isn't an entity in that body anymore.
Daan's passivity (in the narrative of his story) could be one aspect of having a Blank Soul, but not necessarily that Pocketcat deals have a Blank Soul requirement. I think Pocketcat's shown to be a capable enough parasite to thread his way through a person's insecurities regardless of the soul type.
I also think the thing that shows the core of Daan's insecurity is actually unrelated to the Pocketcat transformation - it's how Pocketcat's Room changes to a murder investigation.
Daan ever only turns to Pocketcat's deal when he feels hopeless at discovering the truth behind his fiancee / father-in-law's murder, he wants to be useful in ways he couldn't back when he was a kid abandoned by his parents. This is the 2nd time he's lost people around him to Old Gods. On top of grieving the life he'd never have with his new family, it's been tearing his old wounds open.
If he were Moonscorched without Pocketcat interference, I think it'd be something similar to restlessly searching for answers while being haunted by childhood traumas. Becoming Pocketcat'd through Moonscorch puts much emphasis on the childhood trauma and no outward signs of investigative behaviors - 1 insecurity is paid attention to in the context of Pocketcat's prey preferences, who was already like that before Daan was born. So, yes, it doesn't feel like a proper Moonscorch by Termina standards.
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lana7779 · 3 months ago
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They look extra gay because I have no chill.
Ot3 rambles under the cut for those interested!
Ever just love three characters so much you decide to make them work despite two of them explicitly canonically hating each other, the other two are biological brothers, and the third pairing has a 15 year age gap?(Wow, that sounded a lot less problematic in my head...)
Anyways!
They're in love, your honour.
All three of them. Between each other. I refuse to see it any other way. (If you don't agree, that's perfectly fine, these are just my personal Ot3 thoughts.)
Break made little Vince's wish come true by reuniting him with his long lost brother. I wonder how much of Vince's wish influenced Break's decision to make Gil his left eye within the Nightray manor. Would he have asked the same of any poor sap he found out in the rain, or did he conveniently do it because he knew the Nightrays held his brother there and it was his way of giving back to this child he was somehow connected with through the Abyss? His ill omened little brother.
Did Vince put two and two together that it was Break who brought him Gil? Did that ever come up in conversation between them? Like "how convenient that I asked you to send anyone matching Gil's description to the Nightray manor and one day Gil just showed up wrapped up in a bow for adoption."
With that said, Vince's childhood was so messed up... so bloody messed up, my heart weeps for him. No wonder he started showing these incestuous tendencies towards his own brother, who was the only good thing in his life. It's his coping mechanism in a sense, to love his brother above anything else so... passionately.
Frankly, Gil is no less messed up because of his own childhood, but he wants to feel needed, and he is certainly needed by both Vince and Break. Reluctantly, and after a lot of soul searching, he accepts Vince for who he is, and of course he accepts Break, which comes with a lot of teasing and pushing him to his limits. Without Break, he wouldn't be half of the person he could be if the other wouldn't be pushing him beyond his limit constantly (as any good mentor should).
And yes, though Break teases Gil a lot about being mopey and useless, he'd never let anything actually happen to Gil and actually only ever has his best interests in mind, at least on a psychological level. So whether they like it or not, they need each other and rely on each other to be at their best. Gil, via cooking for and maintaining Break's health, and Break, via literally pulling Gil out of brainwashed psychosis.
Similarly, because of Break's caring nature, he can't let Vince commit the irreversible, and that finally slaps some sense into dear ol' Vince to recognize that Break isn't the bad guy, and perhaps he never was.
And thus, with this mutual trust, shared by some deep seated trauma between each other, I see them all bonding with each other and forming deeper connections over time that would lead into a healthy relationship.
At first I thought Gil would be the sole key keeping them together and happy, but after finding all the crumbs that support that Vince and Break could very much work with each other as well, yeah, I think that each pair can exist happily independent of each other, but by God is it so much better to just imagine them polyamourously working together.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk, this is my first ot3, and I have entirely too many thoughts about them. 💖
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teaandtoastandthyme · 1 year ago
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Lockwood & Co - Books vs. show preferences
First, things about Lockwood & Co that I like better in the books. (Book and show spoilers abound in both these lists.)
The timeline. I'm actually very confused about what the timeline in the show is supposed to be. I could see a somewhat condensed timeline making sense for screen adaptation, but I felt like the show didn't give the characters enough time to know each other as well as they supposedly did.
Which boy drew his rapier first in the Archives. In the show, Lockwood draws his rapier first to defend both Lucy and himself against Kipps' nastiness. In the books, Lockwood draws his rapier in quick defense against Kipps' rapier, having used his words rather than his sword to provoke Kipps. I just like that bit of character portrayal better.
The scene at the Combe Carey well. I think Lockwood's "No, Lucy. That's not the way it's going to be." is such a powerful foreshadowing line about how they help pull each other away from the call of death. And it would have fit so well with some of the other scenes they added for the show.
The Skull's dialogue. Certainly most of his best sarcastic lines are in later books, but they didn't set his character up well to make those remarks. While the tone of the show is a bit different than the books, it seems they could have kept at least a little of his ridiculous nature.
The plan (or lack-thereof) for infiltrating the relic auction. While certainly the trio (plus Flo) are plenty chaotic in this part of the books, they DO have a pretty well-thought-out plan to get into the auction and get the bone glass. They're not just winging it. There are several minor plot holes and/or convenient plot devices in the show that wouldn't have had to happen if they had kept the Winkman auction scene a little closer to the books. And it would have highlighted that these kids actually are smart. (And that Lockwood is actually good a making plans sometimes.)
And now, things I like more about the show adaptation:
George's physical characterization. The books' use of Lucy's voice to disparage George's appearance can be overwhelming to the point of distracting sometimes. I appreciate that the show allowed Lucy and George to have some conflict without it involving making fun of physicality in any way. There's enough of that already in the world. That is literally my least favorite part of the books. (Though at least Lucy does mature a bit over the series in this respect.) [Edited to clarify: I have nothing against George in the books or the way he looks, just the way the others talk about it!]
The expansion of Norrie's role. I think this was a brilliant move to highlight the trauma Lucy experienced and heighten the stakes a bit. And it was also the perfect device for explaining parts of the world in narrative form.
A deeper exploration into mental health and suicidality. The books contain these themes, but I love the way the show brought these characters' experiences of trauma and mental illness more fully into conversation with each other and with the story. It was masterfully done, without romanticizing or preaching or toning down.
Lockwood giving Lucy the diamond necklace before the party. When I first watched this scene in its entirety, I let out a breath I didn't know I had been holding. I am so used to male characters telling the dressed-up scrappy female character how stunningly beautiful she is, and I hate it. I hate the way it shifts the agency and purpose of the woman's appearance. I've said before in other posts how much I appreciate that Lockwood just lets Lucy be in this scene. She doesn't need him to compliment her appearance because her appearance is not for him. And then, of course, the necklace can be more about connection and relationally rather than approval or beauty.
Clues about Lockwood's parents and the nature of the Problem a little earlier. It ties the stories together into one larger mystery a bit sooner and quite effectively, I think.
What about you? What are your favorite changes in the show, and what do you like better in the books?
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l-in-the-light · 3 months ago
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How clingy is Law when being in a relationship? 👀
I sort of answered this one before, though it's kinda scattered among many different asks. I will put it all together for you here, fill up the blanks and summarize neatly.
First of all, would he be clingy at all? And if so, in what ways? Let's cover the "yes" option first, because he would be, but perhaps not in "usual way" when you think of someone being clingy (which is sending messages constantly, always seeking your attention, literally clinging to you physically in any way they can - those things Law would definitely never do).
Overall, I think Law would be a caring and dedicated partner in a romantic relationship, loyal to the grave type, never one to betray. His love would know no boundaries and his partner would be always on his mind. But it would be probably a bit heavy though, considering everything he went through. He would be always worried about losing that person, he would also sacrifice the whole world if needed just to prevent that from happening. He's like "I would drag you forcefully to safety if I have to, even against your will". Other than that he wouldn't limit their freedom.
But his experiences and overdedication to keep that person safe definitely suggests some form of clinginess indeed, it's like his own emotional wellbeing depends on his obsession of keeping the other person safe (it's definitely a result of his trauma, but also his "older brother" overprotective nature. A dangerous mix!). I mean, look what he does in One Piece Red, he literally stores Luffy inside Barto's barrier and rolls him around, just to keep him out of trouble, this is his personal fear of losing his important person taking over him completely. Though we're talking about Luffy so he didn't have much choice, but I have a feeling he would do it for anyone else important to him as well. You could totally see it as kinda clingy (but so is Luffy towards him, so I guess it's alright. They match each other's crazy in this regard, after all).
I actually think jealousy can also be a form of clinginess, and I think Law is capable of showing at least a bit of that. He would be very childish when jealous. Any time his partner shows unusual interest in someone else, he would try to extinguish it immediately, but never directly. He would try to find a less personal reason to show his partner he should drop the interest in the new person, especially if he's afraid it would make him lose the special connection he has to his significant other.
But if his partner would actually betray him or have a fling, I believe Law would also be very forgiving, even if his partner really hurt his feelings. And it's not because he's that benevolent or good-natured, patient like an angel. It's because he would forgive just about anything as long as his important person is safe and sound, so for that reason he would totally disregard his own feelings, needs and wellbeing. It's not very healthy and also carries a hint of clinginess. And his hurt over the betrayal would actually run really deep in him, because Law believes a relationship without mutual trust is not worthy being called a relationship (the same way he thinks about alliances). In the longer go this could totally lead to a breakup, just not immediately. When you think about it, Cora-san lied to him a lot, especially about not being a Marine, and that was important to Law. Yet he allowed Cora-san to lie to him and forgave him. I think this tells us a lot about Law. I can see him doing the same to his partner, even asking them "Are you betraying me?" and just accepting if he's lied to, without pointing it out or doing anything about it.
Now let's cover the "no" option, as in: he isn't clingy. Let's not forget he is very emotionally withdrawn so besides the few scenarios I listed above, he wouldn't actually cling to anyone. At times he might also act very distant or push his partner away, just because he thinks that will be better for them in the longer go or because he feels like he cares way too much. He has a lot of issues and those issues aren't going away in the relationship (don't believe in the "love will fix you" crap, it's just a fairytale, you bring your traumas into your relationships, they're not gonna magically disappear). So unless it's a life-endangering situation, Law's first instinct would be the exact opposite of clinging to someone - he would actually just go away, push them away, not to impose himself on his partner, or suffer quietly on his own. Unless it would be about his pride as a captain, but we're speaking romantic relationships here :D
It would take a lot of effort to make him get into an actual romantic relationship, but once he falls in love he falls in love for life. Just look at his dedication to Cora-san after all. There's no way anyone can take that spot in his heart, it would be the same if he falls in love romantically. So he would be extremely commited and to only one partner. If you want to see it as definitive answer that "yes, he's very clingy", then go ahead, just please remember it's really nuanced in this case. His clinginess has the flavour of "I will devote myself to this person for life, but they won't even know they mean the whole world to me" kinda way, pushing his own needs to second place or even further. But it would occassionally show, because you can't completely hide a love that is so big. This dedication though doesn't sound very romantic, or maybe it does?
Also if you want to see how a potential date with Law could look like I'm leaving you with a link: https://www.tumblr.com/l-in-the-light/760451338590191616 in short: he would be so devoted to his partner they might feel overwhelmed by it. Would that be considered clingy though? Please let me know what you think about that, anon :D
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multiplicity-positivity · 1 year ago
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genuine question, how can you be a system and not have dissociative disorder or vice versa? isn't "seperate identities/people/minds/ what have you" both of those things?
also, what exactly distinguishes DID from just being a system?
Hey, it definitely is possible to both be a system without a dissociative disorder and to have a dissociative disorder without being a system. This is a huge question that has lots of different angles... but we'll give our best shot at parsing a response.
Preemptively going under a cut because we just know this is going to get long.
Being a system without a dissociative disorder:
There are many, many forms of plurality besides just DID. DID absolutely is not just “separate identities/people/minds”… rather it is a mental disorder based in repeated childhood trauma. Lots of systems out there aren't even disordered at all, don’t have a history of repeated trauma in childhood, or their system is disordered, but doesn't qualify for a DID diagnosis. Here's some examples of systems who wouldn't have DID, but are still absolutely plural:
Someone who created imaginary friends who views those imaginary friends as separate beings who share their mind together. They might have created these imaginary friends in childhood and they just never went away, or they might have created them later in life. If someone with imaginary friends likes the plural label or thinks the presence of imaginary friends makes them a system, they're plural and their system is valid.
Someone who consciously created a headmate through practice or using guides to aid in this process found online. There are lots of websites out there where folks have put together resources for creating a headmate from scratch, from daemonism to "tulpamancy" and more. If someone who consciously chose or created a headmate feels like they're sharing their mind with another being, and if they want to use the plural label, they're more than welcome to.
Someone whose system was created through trauma, but who doesn't qualify for a diagnosis of a dissociative disorder. Many systems find that they are trauma-formed, but they don't experience amnesia or dissociative barriers, or perhaps while their trauma responses are disabling or disordered, their plurality simply isn't. A person's system doesn't just disappear if they don't qualify for a dissociative disorder. Many systems may have created headmates to cope with trauma consciously or unconsciously. They're still plural as long as they wish to identify this way.
Someone whose cultural or spiritual beliefs include plurality, or who considers their plurality spiritual in nature. Many systems may find their plurality inherently connected to their religion or spiritual practices and beliefs. Whether they believe they're sharing their mind with angels, spirits, deities, ghosts, or anything else, these folks are still welcome in the plural community. As far as we understand, there are many cultures and religions outside of the west where spiritual plurality is commonly practiced and understood.
These are just a few examples. We could continue this list infinitely (eg writers who share their minds with their characters, patients who use the Internal Family Systems model to build self-esteem, etc etc). If someone feels like they're plural or more than one, or finds the plural framework useful for them, they're welcome to identify as plural. So there are nearly limitless ways to be plural or a system without having a dissociative disorder.
Having a dissociative disorder without being a system:
It is also entirely possible to have a dissociative disorder without being a system.
First of all, some folks with dissociative disorders may start out as systems, but reach a state of oneness through healing, recovery, and fusion. These people still absolutely have dissociative disorders, but through a process of healing, are no longer systems.
Also, many folks with dissociative disorders may technically qualify as systems or plural, but don't benefit from using that language to describe themselves. So while they may have separate parts, they prefer to call themselves "A person with (DID/OSDD/etc)," use exclusively "I/me" pronouns, refrain from naming their parts, and/or their parts may identify with their own body at different ages rather than having their own separate, distinct personalities. Even if a system with a dissociative disorder HAS alters with distinct and separate personalities, they don't have to identify as plural or a system if they don't want to. We firmly believe these are opt-in labels.
Further, there are more dissociative disorders than just DID and the type of OSDD which presents with alters. There are many ways that OSDD may manifest, and it is absolutely possible for some folks to be diagnosed with a dissociative disorder without being a system. They may have less distinct parts, they may lack amnesia, they may feel like one person who's fractured or in pieces rather than "sharing their mind with others," and they may not feel fractured at all, but still have lots of problems with dissociation. There's also DPDR (depersonalization/derealization disorder), which is a dissociative disorder that is not characterized by having parts or alters at all. These folks still definitely have a dissociative disorder, but they're more impacted by depersonalization and derealization and don't have separate parts or alters at all.
(note: depersonalization and derealization are both symptoms of dissociation and are almost always found in those with dissociative disorders that DO present with alters like DID. But it is possible to have a disorder where the DPDR exists without alters or parts.)
Hopefully this was able to demonstrate how DID does not = system, and how system does not = DID. There so much diversity within plurality, and there’s so much diversity within those struggling with dissociative disorders, and those two things (plurality and dissociative disorders) don’t always overlap.
At the end of the day, we’re just one system sharing what we believe. If you’d like to learn more about dissociative disorders and other forms of plurality, our resource post for questioning systems might be a good place to start. It’s not exhaustive by any means, but there’s plenty of resources included for a jumping off point.
Let us know if you have further questions or if this response doesn’t make much sense, and we’d be happy to try and elaborate further. Also, to others who read this, feel free to correct us if we’ve been misinformed or if something we said here is inaccurate.
💫 Parker and 🐢 Kip
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I disagree that a sequel is necessary. While I see the potential for new storylines, the idea of introducing a completely new set of antagonists doesn’t appeal to me. Starting from scratch with villains can feel like a major challenge, and bringing back old ones would only lessen the impact of their original arcs. I don’t want to see previous antagonists resurrected, as it would feel forced and undermine the emotional weight of their defeats.
There's also the power vacuum left by the deaths of major characters, but that doesn’t automatically mean the story needs to continue. Sometimes, the best choice is to let things end naturally rather than create a new threat just to keep the series going.
Jujutsu Kaisen's ending might not be saved by a sequel. If Gege is tired of the universe, it could show in the quality of the continuation. Forcing a sequel when the creator might not be fully invested could result in something lackluster, and I’d hate to see the series lose what made it great in the first place. I also feel strongly about the need for Gege to rest, especially with the health concerns and breaks he had.
I prefer complete, well-rounded stories, and I’m concerned that a sequel would compromise that. In the end, I just don’t want a sequel to happen, as I believe Jujutsu Kaisen could have ended on a stronger note without needing to push the story further.
About the villains: would you say Sukuna's and Kenjaku's arcs are completely finished? Have they been used to their full potential?
Kenjaku eg. has a background connection with Yuji but no actual relationship with him in-story. There is no push and pull between those two and their past hasn't been dealt with either. Kenjaku also has no realtionship with Nobara and Megumi and only a small one with Gojo. As a villain he did much but his interpersonal connections were severly lacking except for Choso which was one-sided.
A potential sequel could present us the relationship and history with Kenjaku and Yuji that hadn't been dugged into until now. Not to forget Heian era history.
For Sukuna its a bit more complex. He had a deep relationship with Yuji and build one with Gojo during their fight. He showed a different side to him through his relationship with Uraume. But what was extremely missing and cut out in the end was a relationship with Megumi. Megumi's end to his own arc was also cut out.
In a potential JJK 2, Megumi dealing with Sukuna (in whatever form he would appear, a curse or trauma) would delve into that missing part of JJK which had existed since the Cursed Womb arc. What would also come from there is Sukuna's past and why he agreed to become cursed objects in the first place.
As a personal opinion, I would like new desaster curses eg a Death Curse. That would bring that curse-centred feeling back to JJK that was missing since Shibuya.
And of course, I wouldn't want a sequel that isn't made with passion either. If Gege has no desire or love for more stories of JJK (outside of maybe small chapters or light novels) than he shouldn't be forced to continue it. If he has health problems that's the same thing.
But just like me who simply assumes that Gege would love to continue the story, you assume that he wouldn't. But in reality we can't tell in any way what Gege thinks about this and if he even has a potentially bad health status. We get small glimpses of him, which is standard for mangaka, and there isn't much to go from there.
He said recently that he's happy the story ends. Yes, JJK will end with chapter 271. That's a statement of fact and can't necessarily be used to say a Part 2 won't come. In the past, sequel anouncements also took months if not years. We can't tell.
What I wanted to say at the end is, I don't think JJK is a well-rounded story. As it stands now, it has superflous plot elements that should've been trimmed down to make it a well-rounded story. Instead we had last chapter were we went through the fat so to speak and cut it off after the meat has already been cooked.
(Please don't roast me for my metaphor, I hate cooking)
There is a reason why "JJK Part 2" is a popular theory/demand and that's because there is room for one that most people have no problem seeing. I don't think that BHA and Demon Slayer had such big Part 2 feelings outside of a niche demand which always exists with all manga and anime that end.
So I don't think JJK would be pushed into more stories. I think it has the groundwork to build those naturally from everything the story has presented us during its run.
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henrysglock · 2 years ago
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Ramble 10: Will, and Will Alone, Is The Key Component To Freeing Henry From Himself
Will is essential to Henry's end
Henry has never successfully broken out of a prison by himself. He tried to break out of the Creel house by himself and failed. He tried to break out of the lab and failed, just ending up in a new form of prison. He couldn't break out of the UD alone, he needed El to open that first gate. He couldn't open the rifts without the murders. He wouldn't even leave his own damn house until the older teens forced him out the window with their attack. He's been imprisoned, in various forms, his entire life. First with his mother, then with Brenner, and now with those he absorbed in his bid for freedom in 1979.
A spider in a jar cannot break the glass from the inside.
Henry has now broken his physical jar with the murders, and it was painful. It quite literally broke everything involved. Will says Henry's hurting, which connects to Hopper's "the hurt is good, the hurt means you're out of that cave". Henry has escaped his physical jar through hurt, and like a spider in smashed glass, he was heavily wounded. However, the physical jar is only one half of the equation.
What about his mental jar? What about the people he's absorbed, who are caging him in?
More hurt does not solve mental problems. More hurt does not reach people mentally, it drives them deeper into their jar. The only thing that's been shown to break someone out of their mental prison is love. Love can be painful, of course. The first step is acknowledging that you have hurt someone, and the fact that that person is now treating you with love is going to be confusing, and that combination of guilt and shame is going to sting like a bitch. But that hurt is good. That hurt means you're at the edge of the cave.
Music in ST may open the door, may lead a person to the edge of the cave, but love walks them through it. It worked with Will. It worked with Billy. It worked with Max. It's going to work with Henry. Love will save Hawkins.
Compassion is a form of love, and it's the form of love that Will is most adept at. It's blindfolding a horse to lead it out of a burning barn even though you, yourself, are susceptible to flame. It's seeing the physical manifestation of your trauma in a bathroom stall and saying "it's okay, I'm not going to hurt you", even though you, yourself, are in danger by it. It isn't synonymous with forgiveness; All it is is seeing the person on the other side of the bars and going "I see you, and I'm not going to hurt you. I'll let you out".
It's unscrewing the lid so the spider can crawl out, knowing full well that it could bite you, rather than smashing the jar and harming the creature inside.
Will can unscrew Henry's figurative lid with his two-way connection by showing Henry the truth, reminding him that he's loved (Victor is still alive, and he still very much loves Henry! Even 27 years after Henry's supposed death, Victor is still in shambles about it all), and then meeting him with the "I'm not going to hurt you" compassion to bring the whole thing home. It is, of course, up to Henry to crawl out of his jar. Will is our light source throughout all of ST4; he can guide Henry out of that mental cave, he can illuminate the edge, but Henry can only escape if he himself wants to leave.
Will will see everything that happened to Henry and essentially say "I see you, and it's time for you to be free of your suffering". He can open that door and offer compassion. Henry himself will walk through it by choice. He will choose to end his own suffering, because that is the first bit of true agency he's ever had for just him. Not Henry and Virginia, not Henry and Brenner, or Henry et. al.
Just. Henry.
It's the kind of ending that would make a room full of Netflix execs cry. It's going to be so messy. There would be so many tears involved. Raphael, Jamie, and Noah would shine. It would be a perfect ending to a story about the power of love and kindness in the face of cruelty.
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izzysillyhandsy · 1 year ago
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The more I think about it, the more my Stizzy's Revenge theory makes sense. I'm so excited about it I have to add few addendums:
It mirrors Stede's dream so well
"Stede, Blackbeard, and Izzy are on an arc together. Whether they're in stories together or not, their ultimate arc is together. I think, by the end of this season, the last episode, that first scene [in S2 E1] will be gratifying. I won't say why, but their fates are tied together." (David Jenkins in this interview)
Wouldn't it be totally unexpected but at the same time really gratifying if, instead of being an obstacle to be killed, Izzy was the connecting element between Stede and Ed? If the three of them reached the conclusion together that Stede's and Ed's path are too divergent at the moment - and that each has to do their own self-discovery for a bit?
It also would be incredibly funny to see Stede sailing away with Izzy of all people and leaving Ed behind. I mean who would have thought this was even remotely possible at the start of S2?
(what this would do to the fandom though...)
It would take Ed's needs seriously - taking it slow
I think it would be such a relief for Ed if Stede understood that Ed was (at least for now) finished with piracy and needed time away from everything and everyone to reconnect with himself.
Not a breakup, they're still in love, still together and they'd definitely reconnect later - when they're both ready.
Izzy needs a break too
As of Ep 7, Izzy is doing his best to suppress his heartbreak and trauma - and you could almost believe he's moved on. His performance of best-breakup-ee ever must be exhausting though.
Remove Ed from the picture for a while, let Izzy gather his strength (and he's done so much already, he can do it!) and give him Stede who's maybe not in the same boat, but who's the one person in the world who can at least begin to understand.
And then, after a while, have that talk with Ed.
Stede and Izzy are actually really good together
With Stede, Izzy is patience itself, but he also knows when to tell him what's what. With Izzy, Stede doesn't have to hold back. He can be as childish and bad-tempered as he wants.
From a showrunner standpoint, those two play off each other really well. I could see one or two episodes in S3 with them doing pirate stuff without Ed (before the inevitable reunion).
Also, if Ed and Stede get together again at the end of S2, were do they go from here? Back to pirating? Unsatisfactory - we all know Ed doesn't want this anymore. Open an inn? And what's supposed to happen in S3?
Stede sailing off with Izzy would make for a fascinating storyline and a great starting point for S3.
The symbolism of the flag
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I'm obsessed with this flag. I love the ambivalence - it could as easily be Blackbeard (with the spear) and Stede (with Ed's heart). But I prefer the Stede and Izzy version.
First Stede: he's the angry skeleton - baring his teeth and holding Blackbeard's spear (and don't forget the merman scene in Ep3 - Stede's holding a spear like trident there too). This symbolizes Stede finally becoming a real pirate - something, I think, that is very important to him. He would drop everything for Ed, sure, but in my opinion that wouldn't be good for him. Stede needs this.
Secondly, Izzy: I love that they made Izzy smaller (he's even got fewer ribs) and generally softer looking. He's holding either Ed's heart (he's been doing that for a lifetime anyway) or his own, as a sharp contrast to Blackbeard stabbing it.
Both their left (heart) hands form the name "Ed", protected by their arms, tails and whole bodies. They're like yin and yang, darkness and light, feminine and masculine.
They're not touching - without Ed, there would be no connection (and it's really difficult to imagine those two becoming friends otherwise).
Swimming together, complementing each other, protecting each other and their shared love. Isn't that beautiful?
Finally, the last episode is called "Mermen"
Need I say more?
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animehouse-moe · 1 year ago
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Chainsaw Man Chapter 150: Dream's Next Stage - The Future of Denji and Chainsaw Man.
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Yes yes, this is the day after the chapter. I wanted to get my thoughts in a row because what gets introduced here is pretty massive as for, well, sort of the entire purpose of Chainsaw Man?
It's a lot to unpack in one go, hence why it took a while to really get things sorted out, but I think it's really worth it in understanding the purpose and context of Denji and Chainsaw Man as a character. So, here we go.
To clear things up, when was the last time we heard Pochita speak? That'd be chapter 90, all the way back in part 1 where Power "eats" Pochita and is revived from Denji's blood.
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Though, it's not like there's exactly "many" instances of Pochita speaking. The only time it happens is when a character is close to death, and the medium both times has been Denji. Pochita is unable to speak on his own, somewhat similar to Yoru's predicament when finding Asa.
Because of that, it's hard to truly argue that Pochita's speech is purely facilitated by Denji himself, but I think it's hard to believe that the line has not been blurred between devil and human here. We even see it with Asa and Yoru through their short time together despite their bickering, so what would happen in a willing contract like this one that's been going on for so long?
Well, really the only answer is the fact that Pochita has become a de facto representation of Denji's subconscious, or id (if you're a Freud fan).
And I think that's really really easy to explain. Lots of information, but following the logic is plain as day. Let's start without words, as that's arguably the purest form of Denji.
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There's a few ways you could take this sequence. The first is that for Denji to really connect and interact with Pochita, he's had to emotionally and psychologically regress. Considering the amount of trauma and repression that Denji's put himself through, the idea is rather straight-forward: Pochita represents a better part in Denji's life. Sure, he was living in absolute poverty and was going to die of sickness, but he didn't know any better. He didn't have a world placed in front of his eyes only for it to crumble to dust.
The second way is really just a variation of this. For Pochita to be represented as his own entity, a time where they were perceived as separate was required. With that comes the idea that the experiences of Denji have also been the experiences of Pochita, and to approach each as an individual you need to isolate those shared experiences.
Either way, the supporting argument for this concept is Pochita's phrasing. "Our dream". Not "your", not "Denji's". "Our", dream.
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You wouldn't think it too important a phrasing, or that it's "nothing to really focus on". But look at what Pochita says in the very first chapter. Pochita very firmly presses the idea that it's Denji's dreams, not their collective dreams.
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Anyways, with the idea of Pochita representing something akin to Denji's inner voice, we can move onto the next idea: the present, and future.
I've been a massive proponent of Denji's identity crisis since Chainsaw Man's been taken away from him. What was originally phrased as a method of rebirth for the boy has now become an illusion of the freedom it was supposed to represent. Because of all of that, I don't really feel like there's a lot to add to that aspect- Denji (though personified/illustrated as Pochita) has always been aware of his connection to Chainsaw Man. It's not something he could run or hide from, it's something that's been his beacon of hope as Denji.
And that's where the present takes us. With Chainsaw Man gone from Denji, he's been left with a hole in his heart. An entire aspect of not himself, but his self has been missing. That's bred doubt, uncertainty, unhappiness, and all manner of things. He had a life that he dreamed about. He lived with friends, he got to laugh and fulfill his first dream- all because of Chainsaw Man.
Denji is the dreamer, but without Chainsaw Man to achieve those dreams, Denji can't go anywhere.
It's really clear as day. Denji never really dreamt before Chainsaw Man. He never really aspired to living or existing. Until he became Chainsaw Man. He gained a home, he gained fame and popularity, power beyond belief. And he got a family.
Which begs the question, what has Denji done? He got to kiss Asa, but then had contact cut off with her. He got to hold a penguin, but then that was taken away from him. And I know, "hey, it's not like Denji's dreams in the first part weren't taken away", but the difference is the fact that he never got to experience these ones.
Denji himself is incapable of growth, incapable of escaping the hell that exists in front of him. In the same breath, Chainsaw Man can't experience the dreams of Denji. It is, unironically, the duality of the boy that leads this series.
Denji alone cannot dream. And Pochita illustrates that expertly, once more with simple phrasing. Pochita deliberately counters their earlier use of "our", with "your" to address Denji's future.
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And this phrasing really points readers in one direction: the assimilation of Chainsaw Man and Denji.
The two have always been together, but they've also always been separate. A definitive yin and yang, as opposed to a singular, balanced entity.
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Now, it might not mean much since Denji's already said as much as "I wanna be Chainsaw Man" earlier in the manga (chapter 133 to be exact), but this instance is obviously different.
It's the kind of thing that is incredibly obvious when experiencing it in the literal sense, but explaining it can get a bit messy, so I'll try my best.
Young Denji is the one saying he wants to be Chainsaw Man, not current Denji. The Denji that would go on to not have a choice in being Chainsaw Man, the one that Chainsaw Man became a crutch for, a curse for.
But in the same breath, this young Denji certainly knows what awaits him. Pain, suffering, loss. And yet he still chooses to bear that burden. Because it's who he is.
This interaction, between Denji and his inner self/Pochita, is Denji not accepting Chainsaw Man as a part of himself, but that Chainsaw Man is Denji. It's an absolutely huge aspect of character development for Denji, and leans towards hinting at a third revelation for him down the road: the acceptance of Denji.
To drag this on longer than it needs to be, the idea is that Denji requires Chainsaw Man to live, in a sense. Denji places his agency and ability with Chainsaw Man, when it should be the other way around. Because of that, Denji's acceptance of himself is really shaping up to be the final frontier for his story, whenever that might be.
Anyways, great chapter that puts a hell of a lot in front of the reader with very little reading or effort. Fujimoto continues to be a genius, what else is new at this point really?
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bardcore-jaskier · 2 years ago
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♡ My thoughts on Yennskier + headcanons ♡
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- What makes this whole thing so funny and exciting to me is that Yennefer used to think that Jaskier was just some annoying sing songy twit before. While Jaskier's dramatic arse used to consider Yennefer an enemy until she saved him from Rience XD XD XD
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- I adored the everliving FUCK out of their scenes together in season 2! Their dynamic is so fucking good! AAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!
- Yennskier, the ship we didn't know we needed, but definitely deserved! Their chemistry is so fucking perfect and their dynamic works so well!
- Personally I think that this ship is actually, currently, THE healthiest and most wholesome one of all my Jaskier ships! At least as of season 2! (Even if Geraskier remains as my OTP)
- In Oxenfurt, when Jaskier and Yennefer got to know eachother better without Geralt's presence to distract them both, ever since they saw the real, raw and vulnerable sides of eachother and became friends, I couldn't help but notice how absolutely toothrottingly perfect they are together!
- Legit, and I kid you not! I can't picture Yennefer and Jaskier having anything other than that deep kind of connection where you know that you are loved, appreciated and adored, despite all your flaws. The kind of love where you know you're not alone, that this person is your family and will always have your back no matter what.
- Yennefer, despite being one of the most powerful sorceresses on the entire continent, treats Jaskier as an equal by the time Ciri gets possessed. (Bro, like even Geralt doesn't do that! Jaskier is his friend, sure, but I've never seen Geralt treating him as an equal.)
- Yennefer and Jaskier have a mutual respect for eachother, they trust eachother, they enjoy eachother's company. All of those things are A CRUCIAL part of having a solid foundation to build a honest, sturdy, long-lasting and happy relationship upon.
- From compatibility POV, they work together a lot better than Geralt and Yennefer did. With Jaskier, there are no djinn related consent issues, there wouldn't be any communication issues and he would probably be a positive influence on Yennefer's mental health.
- Whereas her relationship with Geralt was quite frankly chaotic, explosive, sometimes even toxic. It was built upon a shaky foundation of lust, djinn magic and exchanged favors. Like c'mon, their time together as an on-and-off couple mostly consisted of having kinky unicorn sex, trauma dumping, dealing with magical, gorey and insanely dangerous situations, then talking about said situations until they have a fight! Leaving eachother every time in the end because they can't seem to make it work long-term. They're incompatible because in canon, the only thing that finally made them stick together for good, was an orphaned girl in need of protection. It's not right, kind of like parents who are postponing their divorce until their daughter grows up :/
- Jaskier on the other hand, despite his magic-less ordinary humanity has a hilariously witty, optimistic, stupidly brave, highly empathetic, loyal and supportive personality. Yennefer would have an understanding partner who loves her, cherishes her, acceptc her for who she is without judgement nor pity. A partner who would make it his life's mission to help her see the good things this world has to offer, to make her happy because she deserves it!
- Damn it all, they both have been through enough, they both deserve a break. They actually GET eachother. I can already feel a drabble forming in my brain, set a week or so after the whole Voleth Mier shebang, Jaskier is struggling with PTSD and nightmares about Rience, Yennefer is struggling with guilt and shame because she put Ciri in danger. So while Geralt is too busy with Ciri's training to be there for Jaskier and he feels too betrayed to be in Yennefer's company, neither Yen nor Jask have anyone to turn to in Kaer Morhen, except eachother. Three months confined to a witcher keep together? Now that is a LOT of time to spend with someone you can be openly vulnerable around, bond with, heal and share joy with, unexpectedly falling in love....
- Yennefer too is an extremely good match for Jaskier, it's almost uncanny how much she completes him! Jaskier would finally have an understanding and loving partner who truly saw him when others didn't bother. And Yennefer liked what she saw, the familiar face of a simple human bard who offered kindness and compassion to strangers even if it could kill him. She saw courage, honesty, forgiveness and so much good, a collection of rare qualities she had never thought could exist within one single person all at once. After Voleth Mier, all that goodness was given to her so freely, it is still being given to her everyday, so she knows a treasure when it looks her right in the eyes with such easy warmth. She would make it her life's mission to cling onto him with everything she's got, to love and cherish him the way he deserves, to protect the only person she deems worthy of holding her heart!
- They have a lot in common too. From both having a knack for fashion, both being mischievous little shits at heart and both having high standards when it comes to personal hygiene. To also having similar tastes in both alcohol, humor, luxury and entertainment.....if Yennefer's kinky orgy party and Jaskier's reputation as the biggest slut on the continent is anything to go by.
- Speaking of sex, both of them having a high libido and exceptional skills in bed aside, they're fucking GORGEOUS people! Why wouldn't they find eachother attractive?
- Yennefer is basically a Goddess, beauty personified! She is elegant and breathtaking, everyone knows it.
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- However, since a majority of the Witcher fandom usually dismisses Jaskier in favor of simping for Geralt, I can, I must and I WILL gush about how pretty Jaskier is! Cuz clearly some of them bitches be blind, Yennefer is one lucky witch!
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- Jaskier is like only 1,5 inches shorter than his grouchy snowman friend. Meaning he is tall as all hell and he definitely isn't lacking in the muscle department either, that bard is jacked yo. His voice is soothing and his vocabulary is extensive enough to make the most experienced of whores blush from pillow talk. He has VERY soft looking hair and he has one of the most angelic fucking faces I've ever seen. His eyes are the clearest shade of blue and his expressions + mannerisms are absolutely adorable! Ok, I'm done gushing, onto the next point....
- Unlike Jaskier, I don't think I have a dummy thick enough of a vocabulary to express how much dopamine Yennskier fanfics give me, more specifically when their husband and wife act from Oxenfurt becomes an inside joke for them, leaving the rest of Kaer Morhen's inhabitants confused as fuck.
- Geralt getting a bit jealous? His brothers wondering when that could have happened? Ciri feeling bamboozled as well?
- It's all shits and giggles until somebody giggles and shits. It won't take long until their inside joke is no longer a joke. They already bicker like a married couple anyway XD
- I can not help but also headcanon Jaskier as not fully human. It would be sad if he up and died on his dear immortal wife. I don't necessarily picture him having chaos or other powers in this scenario, but when I do, I think that they would discover them together on accident.
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sleepy-shutin · 2 years ago
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DID is a trauma disorder. if you disagree you are ableist, period.
like at this point i'm going to start calling people ableist for saying DID isn't caused by trauma, because it is. it goes against literal decades of research into DID.
and i genuinely cannot figure out for the life of me why people want to claim DID so badly, when other forms of plurality are right there. do you want to seem more valid? are you just that deep in denial of your own trauma? are you overly attached to hypotheticals? it makes no sense.
there are no good arguments for saying DID isn't caused by trauma in the face of everything we have.
"the DSM doesn't list DID in the trauma disorders section" because it's categorizing disorders by their primary symptoms and not their cause. that said, the trauma and stressor related disorders category is right next to the dissociative disorders category to display their close relationship.
"trauma isn't in the criteria" because people with DID frequently downplay or don't remember their trauma, so putting it in the criteria is useless if you actually want people to get diagnosed in the first place.
"but it says associated with--" what do you think 'associated with' means?
"but in the PTSD section it says--" it says that the symptoms can become apparent at any point in life, not that the disorder can be caused at any point in life, and if it did, it wouldn't say that in a completely different disorder entry. it would say that in the entry for DID.
"DID is underresear--" not it's not. my library of 20+ books and papers says you're wrong, and my friend's library of 1500+ books and papers says you're even more wrong.
"but there are so many reasons that someone could dissociate to those levels" and everyone who proceeds to list the reasons someone would dissociate to those levels proceeds to list either trauma that's normally downplayed, or other things frequently caused by trauma. there is no reason for someone to dissociate (i.e. disconnect themselves from their own lives and experiences) so severely that their neurology changes in order to categorize their life experiences into separate states of consciousness without trauma being involved.
"they just want you to final fuse and say your alters aren't people" if this is the case then why does the actual ISSTD, the international society for the study of trauma and dissociation, recognize healthy multiplicity as a completely valid form of recovery that patients can and should strive for if that is what they want with their treatment goals, in their treatment guidelines for CDDs?
"all dissociation is complex" this is a new one i heard today and it's just completely wrong on all fronts! no, daydreaming, a non-pathological and completely normal form of dissociation that everyone experiences, is not the same as what i've endured my entire life, and that's been me, floating through the world in an extremely detached manner for my whole life because the trauma i endured as a child has kept me from being able to connect to myself properly. daydreaming is not the same as having such a discordant relationship with your own body that you cannot look in the mirror without getting distressed because you can't believe that you have a body. daydreaming is not the same as being able to turn off all of your emotions during a stressful event because you don't know how to deal with them, so you don't. daydreaming is not the same as experiencing severe stress and/or trauma and shoving all of the memories and/or feelings from that stress and trauma into a completely compartmentalized and sectioned off part of your own psyche because you cannot cope with it.
like genuinely what are you people trying to get at here? is there an agenda that big psych is trying to push about DID? what does big psych, or literally anyone, gain from pushing that DID is a trauma disorder?
like seriously, think long and hard about what the long term goals of the people and professionals that say that DID is a disorder rooted in trauma are and the evidence that backs all of that up.
they have tried to find other causes for DID. they have tried to look into everything that can possibly cause DID, from 'they're making it all, alters and trauma, up for attention' to 'alters are the adult version of imaginary friends' and found that the only one that rang true when held up to the scrutiny of empirical evidence is that DID is a complex trauma-based dissociative disorder that occurs when a child is extremely traumatized over a long period of time.
the only people that say DID is not a trauma-based disorder are people who haven't read much more than cherry-picked screenshots of the DSM who just really, really want it to be true, and they haven't read a single god damn thing other than the DSM. because if they did, then they would no longer have an argument.
so, for once and for all, i'm going to dig through my personal library and screenshot sections of some of the books and papers that i have personally read and outline them below, quickly and plainly for all to see.
and all of that is ignoring THESE:
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These tidbits from Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Empirical Overview - Dorahy, Brand, 2014, p. 403 & 412
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This entire section from Separating Fact from Fiction: An Empirical Examination of Six Myths About Dissociative Identity Disorder - Brand, 2016
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this section from Coping with Trauma-Related Dissociation: Skills Training for Patients and Therapists - Suzette Boon, Kathy Steele, Onno Van Der Hart
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the opening portion of this essay from Dissociation and the Dissociative Disorders; Past, Present, Future - (2023) - Chapter 11: ATTACHMENT TRAUMA AND THE DEVELOPING RIGHT BRAIN: Origins of Pathological Dissociation and Some Implications for Psychotherapy - Schore
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these sections from The Haunted Self: Structural Dissociation and the Treatment of Chronic Traumatization, (2006): CHAPTER 4: Tertiary Structural Dissociation of the Personality
if anyone else is sick and tired of having this argument over and over, feel free to send these screenshots to anyone who keeps making the ableist argument that DID can be caused by things other than trauma.
DID is a trauma disorder, backed by DECADES of research, and if you continue to deny this, you are fucking ableist. i rest my good god damn motherfucking case.
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