#Nightwing knows what he did
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Notice for Gotham Vigilantes
Vigilantes that are allowed near my apartment: -Signal -Spoiler -Oracle -Black Bat/Orphan Vigilantes that I'm unsure about: -Red Robin -Red Hood Vigilantes that will be beaten with a broom upon entering: -Nightwing (He knows what happened and he's on my Shit list) -Batman
#Nightwing knows what he did#And I'll beat him up with that broom again#Red Robin is on thin ice after stealing my expresso hot chocolate mix#only in gotham#dc oc rp#dc oc#nightwing#red robin#batman
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The Bat-Adoption Papers are literal Magic Contracts
So! In the Deified Batman AU (the AU where the Belief of the peoples of Gotham accidentally Ascended Batman to minor godhood), the Bat Adoption Papers would be a fun concept.
Batman is a God of The Night, Fear, and Protection. Specifically, the protection of Children, which is one of his biggest motivators. Meaning, it's a big part of his Divine Domain.
So when he, a God of Protection and Children, adopts his own Child? It's kind of a big deal.
His Adoption Papers basically become Magical Contracts that claim Dick to him as his own Son, basically turning Dick into a Demigod by the fact that he is the Son of a God.
Then each time Batman adopts a kid, they become a Demigod as well. Maybe after enough time, and after they forge their own Identities, they could become Minor Gods of their own? Idk, fun idea
Why do I bring this up?
Well, when Danny eventually joins the JLA, and runs into Batman, all he sees in a God of the Night, who takes one look at him, and then pulls out a Magical Binding Contract from his Belt.
Needless to say, he books it.
#Dpxdc#Dp x dc#Dcxdp#Dc x dp#Danny Phantom#Dc#Dcu#If they did become God's I like to imagine what their Domains would be#Dick becomes The Nightwing#God of Protection Jovality and Children#Jason becomes The Red Hood the God of Wrath Revenge and Protection#Tim becomes The Red Robin God of Intellect Mystery and Restaurants (heh)#Steph becomes The Spoiler Goddess of Mystery Puzzels and Fun (even though she never got adopted. Nobody really knows how she pulled it off)#Cass becomes The Orphan Goddess of Darkness Silence and Mercy#Duke is basically already a Demigod but be would be the God of Light Darkness and Riddles#Damien would be the God of Art Redemption and Animals#Danny saw a God who had multiple children bound by Contract and then saw him pull out that same contract while staring at him#He is rightfully scared#I imagine Constantine has tried to get adopted before so he can get in on that Demigod Making Contract#But he doesn't fit the bill for Adoption#Also he's old enough to be Bruce's Dad sooo...#Bruce is only vaguely aware of how his kids managed to Ascend#He doesn't know it was the Adoption Papers that did it#Also his “Adoption Sense” could actually be a legitimate Power of his now that I think about it
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Tim *on his 68th hour of no sleep trying to finish the cases he stole from the cave after being banished to titans tower because of red hood, fully believing he's all alone there*: ok but what if we blow up the tower, fake our deaths, and take a 3 week vacation? Way more effective than just sending me here and hope for the best with the unhinged murderer fixated on me.
YJ *worried about their team leader and annoyed at their mentors, actually considering*: sure, why not?
Bart: I'll go get the explosives.
Kon: but how will they know we died here?
Tim *fully invested now*: the cameras don't have audio, we have a bunch of our blood and we can drop a bag of our teeth plus some kryptonite to make it convincing.
Kon *shrugs*: close enough.
#an hour later jason gets to the tower fully intending to “clip the replacement's wings” or wtv and is just in time to see it all go up in#flames and a weird green color that reminds him of the pit#thirty minutes later batman and nightwing show up to find the red hood without his helmet on in a full blown panic attack#and wait is that jason? omg jay! hold on did you blow up the tower?#the whole thing is enough to snap Jason out of the rage and like actually talk things out with his family#Bruce is conflicted on the one side he has his precious boy back and healthy. no the heads in a bag are irrelevant#but also he lost another one and it was his fault tim was even there to begin with#and then Tim returns rested and like nothing happened and Bruce doesn't know whether to yell at him or hug him for bringing back Jason#and Tim is just like ??? I left a note? (he didn't)#batman#batfam#tim drake#bruce wayne#titans tower#jason todd#red hood#i don't actually know what this is
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This is based off of that one tiktok from @sorruna where it’s the audio from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.
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Dick Grayson was a sneaky, intelligent little shit.
He was also dumb. These things are not mutually exclusive.
To this day, one of his best kept secrets- one of the many, many that he had now- was something he’d take to his grave.
Or to Jason’s grave, at least.
Dick sat down and began telling the story to ears that would never truly hear it.
——
Batman’s voice rumbled behind him as Dick, in his Robin suit, stood blankly on top of a roof.
“I know you snuck out last night, Robin.”
Dick froze, train of thought about his dinner derailed. Holy busted, Batman! Quick! Play dumb!
“Who’s Robin?” He asked, the years of performing in front of a large crowd coming to save his ass.
Not that dumb!
Batman sent him a dry look, reprimand already poised on his lips. Dick, however, was nothing but a good performer. Nay, a dedicated performer.
Quick! Do something out of character! He shouted at himself, panicking visibly. He stepped backwards, an idea appearing in his head. In his defense, it sounded like an amazing idea at the time. He had no idea it would blow up into a Justice League issue. If he had known… Dick would have lied better, probably. There was no way he was going to let B bench him for weeks!
“Who the fuck are you?!” He yelped. Dick apologized mentally to Alfred and his parents. Batman paused, stunned.
“That’s my question. Who are you?!” Bruce asked, immediately hostile. His son doesn’t curse. Well, not in any normal way anyways. Dick quickly backpedaled by yelling at him with a heavy Vlax dialect, missing his parents terribly as he screamed stranger danger in rudimentary Romany. After this, he was going to have to convince Bruce to get him a language tutor. He refused to forget one of the only ties he had left to his parents.
“Wait, wait- you’re my son.” Bruce replied back, in perfect Romany. He looked more convinced but still skeptical.
“My dad is a circus performer! Not a flying rat!” Dick screeched back. He couldn’t help but feel touched about Bruce seeing him like a son.
“Oy! Keep it down out there, you assholes! Some of us like our sleep, damn!” A random Gothamite screamed out of their window.
“Yo, shut the fuck up! The vigilantes are helping to keep the rent low, motherfucker!” Another Gothamite shouted back.
….
Needless to say, Bruce quickly brought Dick back to the cave- with precautions to make sure he didn’t figure out where the Cave was if Dick was actually someone else.
——
“You would have loved it, Little Wing. B was running around like a headless chicken. The memory loss protocol was actually made because of me, you know.” Dick chuckled, sniffling as he talked to the carved gravestone.
It did not reply.
——
The blood tests came back. Yeppers, Dick sarcastically thought, who woulda thought I’m me?
Reinforcements were called in.
Meaning, Batgirl.
“Watch him while I contact Justice League Dark.”
“You think it’s magic?” Barbara asked.
“Yes. There was no one else near our vicinity that could affect Dick like this. He has no head wounds.”
“Eesh. Okay, go. I’ll watch him.”
Bruce disappeared in his zeta tube, looking harried. So, to everyone that’s not a Bat, he looked absolutely terrifying.
“What did you get yourself into now, Boy Wonder?” Barbara sighed. Dick was careful to keep any signs of recognition out of his face.
“Stop calling me that! Where are my parents?!” He asked back. Barbara coughed and looked uncomfortably away.
That’s right, Babs. I’m pulling out the orphan card. Feel bad. Dick hid his feral grin.
“They’re… uh, busy.” Busy being dead, Barbara thought, immediately wincing at her own thoughts. Apparently, Dick thought the excuse was lame too, and he sent her an incredulous look.
“Would you like refreshments, Master Dick?”
“What?”
Alfred held out some cookies on a platter, giving Babs a quelling look as she tried to reach for his share.
“Oh, wow, these are really good!” Dick said as he shoveled cookies into his mouth. He tried to replicate the reaction he had when he tried these for the first time, and from Alfred’s satisfied look, Dick nailed it.
——
“Robin doesn’t remember who he is.” Batman rumbled as he all but dragged Zatanna and Constantine by the scuff of their jackets towards the zeta tubes.
“Hey, wait-”
“We have no time.” Batman snarled, tossing the two magic users into the zeta. He punched in the destination.
When they got there, he glared at the two magic users until they got into the cave.
“Damn, Bats. Really living up to your name, huh?”
“Not bad,” Zatanna said as she looked around.
“Robin,” Batman- Bruce- reminded them. He did a quick glance over to check on his kids, and found them satisfactorily uninjured. Though, Barbara was looking worse for wear. Bruce quickly found out why as she stalked to him.
“You deal with him.” She muttered. “I’m going home.”
Bruce blinked and nodded. “Get home safe.”
Zatanna and Constantine followed Batman as he walked towards Robin. It was odd to see the normally laughing child frown.
“It’s you! The kidnapper! Where are my parents?!”
Bruce winced which, for him, was akin to a full body flinch and recoil. No wonder Barbara was so tired.
“Fix it.”
“Don’t get your knickers in a twist, Batsy.” Constantine grumbled.
“Well help, Batman. Though… I’m not sure if he should be doing that.”
Bruce sharply turned his head back to where Dick was. Emphasis on was. Because now, he’s halfway up the giant dinosaur the Robin had insisted they keep.
“Robin, get down from there!”
“Stranger Danger!” Dick hollered back.
Batman- Bruce Wayne- sighed.
“That’s high level magic,” Zatanna hummed. “I can’t feel anything, but I know for sure that he won’t die. Magic like that either dissipates naturally or…”
“Lasts forever,” Constantine finished.
Bruce groaned, shooting off a grappling line and swooping upwards to catch Dick as he fell from the giant dinosaur.
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“I pretended to get my memories back later,” Dick chuckled. “And pretended to forget the whole thing. Bruce was so relieved that I stopped knocking things over and trying to do cartwheels in high places that he totally forgot I snuck out.”
Dick patted the headstone.
“But between you and me? I’m pretty sure Alfred knew. I think B pissed him off that week.”
#y’all is the Romani language spelled Romany#idk if im reading that wrong but did you know the Vlad dialect is the most widespread?#nightwing#dick grayson robin#dick grayson#dick grayson’s gaslight gatekeeper girl boss moment#Bruce Wayne#Batman#Batman and the trials of parenthood#google what to do when your vigilante child seems to have forgotten that he’s a vigilante#Batman using the magic Justice League like a wiki how#minors angst disguised as crack#also my favorite thing to write is brice and dick coping by talking to graves#but not actually talking to the grave’s owner who is actually alive#dick gets better about it#Bruce? not really#English is the fucking worst#Jason Todd#jason Todd’s grave
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"Okay, but how were you able to taste heroin?" I asked, confused.
Bruce (confused years later hearing this story): Wait a damn minute... Wait a damn minute. Wait a damn a minute!
Tim: He's trying to say "How did you know what heroin tasted like?"
Dick (tense): What?
Bruce (already prepared to give the drug test): Oh, that wasn't the right answer. How did you taste it and not get high? How did you taste it and NOT GET HIGH?!
Dick: Alfred knew what it was too!
Bruce: He was in the war he has an excuse! Did you do drugs with... ROY?!
Tim: Bruce, chill.
Bruce: I will chill as I make a call.
Bruce sat down, grabbing the landline phone and dialing a number. Dick sat in his seat, his eyes darting nervously.
Dick (thought voice over): I paid him... I should be fine.
While Bruce talked to Jason on the phone Tim yanked his brother to his side.
Tim (whispering): Who gave it to you, why, was it Roy, and do I need to handle your rehab stay?
Dick (pulling away): I'm not on drugs!
Tim (incredulous): Anymore?
Dick: Never was. I never was! Roy will vouch for me!
Bruce: Let's hear what Roy has to say.
Bruce put the call on speaker and all that could be heard was Jason cackling. Roy's frustrated sighing could be heard in the background.
Bruce: All right, Jason's cackling too much to answer. Roy... repeat what you said to me!
Roy: It was one party and he was stupid enough to want to try it once with me. I was already heavily addicted and even I told him not to try it. That hospital stay afterwards made him not touch it again.
Jason laughed.
Jason: Tell the other part... tell him.
Roy: He did smoke a lot of weed in his college years.
Bruce: He... WHAT?!
Roy (chuckling): Whoops forgot to tell you that earlier.
Dick (angry stuttering): I- I- I fucking paid you not to tell anybody.
Roy: And I said that wasn't guaranteed if I ever got clean! The money is gone now.
Jason: On drugs you bitch.
Roy (laughing): Shut it.
Bruce (monotone): Okay, Dick, five second head start, and then I tackle you and give you a drug test.
Dick ran out of the room as Bruce counted down. Bruce hung up the phone then chased after his eldest son. Alfred entered the office carrying a tray of small coffee cups.
Alfred: What's going on?
Tim (taking a coffee cup): Bruce found out Dick used drugs in the past and he's giving him a drug test.
Dick (running the other way): I was just a young boy!
Bruce (following behind him): SHAMEFUL!
Tim took a sip from his coffee, nodding at the good taste.
Tim: Did you use heroin?
Alfred: What happened in the undocumented war stays in that war. That and it was the old days, I stopped using it after I moved to America.
Tim (shook his head with a smile): I'm glad I'm not addicted to anything.
#batfamily#batfamily chronicles#batman#batfamily shenanigans#this man snorted herion on the ground and pinpointed that it was heroin#you can't tell me he didn't try it once#jason todd#seriously why did alfred know what it was?#dick grayson#bruce wayne#batfamily headcanons#tim drake#then he had that post-batman will kill me clarity and never touched it again#can't believe this is canon#robin#nightwing#batfamily adventures#roy harper#stephanie brown#batfamily fanfiction#signal dc#microfiction#flash fiction#batfamily comedy#headcanon batfamily#batfamily microseries#script fic#part of my batfamily flash fiction#batfamily fic#batfamily funny
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what was with cameron house md she spends 90% of the episode saying she wants their patient to die bc he's a genocidal dictator and her colleague husband says "babe it bothers me for ethical reasons that you want our patient to die :(" and she said "hm maybe you're right :/" but when it comes down to it the genocidal dictator lays a finger on her in an aggressive manner and chase instantly commits medical malpractice to murder the guy and then when he tells her she LEAVES HIM bc boo hoo he's a murderer now like GIRL he killed a man for you!!! he's wracked with catholic guilt!!! he's being crushed beneath the weight of his sins because he chose his devotion to you over his devotion to god!!! he literally could not get any sexier at this moment in time!!!
#girl what are you doing......#also just in general she did not deserve him honestly he was so good to her and for WHAT#just to be abandoned at peak devotion and guilt and hotness 🙄#girl get OUT of my way i'm stronger than you#if she cared she could fix him or make him worse but i could love and support him no matter what 😌#his muder is a part of him and its SEXY#robert chase#house md#malpractice md#i know the actors broke up irl or whatever but wtf.....#i should have ended my rewatch w their happy lil wedding at the end of s5#s6 everything instantly goes to shit#and stays shitty#chase should be happy fr#he's supposed to turn into house basically but they should have made him the well adjusted version of house#like how nightwing is the well adjusted version of batman#anyway i have no real point here i just lowkey dont like cameron bc of this arc#also her obsession w house is so weird i wish they hadn't made that a thing#this has been a shitpost#anyway she left chase at the absolute peak of his sexiness wtf.......#anyway since this apparently needs to be said its not that deep this is a silly post if you send me hate messages i wont answer#i block and ignore anon hate bc i am too busy touching grass to be rude to strangers over a tv show
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pre-death jason anytime bruce is being annoying: the way you’re currently behaving is the reason why nightwing left you
#dc comics#dc universe#dcu#batman#bruce wayne#bruce thomas wayne#red hood#jason todd#jason peter todd#jason was never the angry robin#jason at anytime: is this what dickie had to deal with back when he was robin? it's a wonder he stayed as long as he did!#he'll even do it after becoming the red hood#jason as red hood: you do realize that micromanaging your children is the reason why nightwing almost went no-contact with you?#dick thinks it’s hilarious#yeah jason was a sweetheart as a kid but he knows how to shatter someone’s self-esteem with a few words#bruce is in shock the first time jason said that to him#jason todd headcanon
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Prompt:
Dick stumbles upon Jason while he’s at his most deranged and sawing heads off people to stuff them into a duffle bag and deliver it gift wrapped to the GCPD.
Dick is sick to his stomach. How can one person be capable of something so atrocious and laugh while doing it!? He needs to get back to the cave. He needs to warn Batman and Robin. This new player isn’t just dangerous, he’s evidently trying to rival his namesake in blood and violence alone and he’s succeeding.
(If Dick hadn’t been too busy keeping his late dinner inside his stomach, he may have noticed the warning creaks of the support beam.
As it is, the chains holding the beam in place snap and Dick goes down. Tumbling straight into the gory mess giving himself a concussion to boot at the Red Hood’s feet.
Shit.)
#Jason is a bit maniacal#and still riding a Lazarus pit high#but then Nightwing pretty much falls from the ceiling#and Jason says#free real estate#he didn’t plan on this happening but there’s no better way to rule up Bruce than to kidnap his favorite bird right?#after all#the Original Boy Wonder#is so much better to have at his mercy than just the little cuckoo bird#Bruce is sure to do anything to get him back#Jason will have his revenge#one way or another#dick didn’t exactly treat him WELL when he was alive#so you know what they say about two birds and one stone#sadly he did NOT plan on Dick being so depressive and mopey and lowkey burnt out#Jason’s mother hen instincts are coming through strong and he doesn’t like it#the pit’s got no chance#jason todd#batfamily#batfam#dick grayson#robin#red hood#Nightwing#dick and Jason#bruce wayne#tim drake#prompts#fic#angst
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One day the batfandom WILL get over having Jason call Tim "replacement" please I am begging I am clawing at the bars of my enclosure
#he doesn't EVER SAY THAT IN THE COMICS#WHERE DID THIS COME FROM#you know who does get called a replacement?#JASON#by DICK#but i never see people talking about this#because dick is the perfect big brother...#NOOOO YOURE FALLING FOR THE FACADA#YOURE FALLING FOR THE FACADE THAT THE READER ARE SUPPOSED TO SEE PAST#THATS WHAT HE WANTS PEOPLE TO SEE#DICK IS FULL OF BARELY CONTAINED RAGE!!! AND PAIN!!!#HE IS NOT THE BIG OLDER BROTHER HE IS ELDEST SISTER RAGE AND GUILT AND RESENTMENT#jason todd#tim drake#dick grayson#dc#robin#nightwing#jay speaks
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I started in DC by reading fanfics, but as I began to read actual comics, I started to be unable to read the actual fanfic that got me into it in the first place because it's so out of character.
But there are still some stories that I love to read because I love the found family trope so much, even if it isn't really accurate to the source material.
As a comics purist (sometimes), are there tropes that you like enough that you'll still enjoy a fic even if it's not accurate to canon?
oh my god this is SUCH a fun question. bc while i started with the comics, there were certain characters and/or character dynamics where i was exposed to the fanon before the canon (just bc it's hard to read everything when you start out just to read some fanfic) and so i've definitely experienced the fanon to canon transition. (*especially* with Jason Todd. i had only read 80s/90s stuff where he was already dead or the New-52 bc that was on-going when i got into comics and man. the fanon misunderstandings i had about him before i got frustrated and sat down to read all his pre-Flashpoint stuff were absolutely bonkers.) and aside from that, whilst i tend to prefer canon over fanon, i'm not past giving fanon its flowers for occasionally having really interesting insights. occasionally. so some of my fanon "guilty pleasure" tropes would probably be
Morally Grey Tim Drake - this is one where if you try to back it up with canon, i *will* get salty about it. of everyone in the Batfam aside from maybe Bruce and Cass, Tim has the *most* black and white morals. often his internal conflicts are routed in such an inability to compromise his moral views and it can cause him to clash with other characters. he's *very* stiff and rigid in his beliefs and is *rare* to compromise in even the smallest ways. i mean, DC has repeatedly used Tim Drake of Tomorrow/Savior/Gun Batman!Tim for a reason. it's to demonstrate that of everyone, Tim *cannot* have his morals compromised. there's no grey area for him. he's zero or a hundred, so if he tips over the edge of "too far" he tips *all the way*, and doing so is one of his worst fears, how he could go "too far" if he let himself. a couple panels out of context from Red Robin (2009) (which was a grief spiral for Tim to begin with) don't change that. now that said. if it's done *right*, i sort of love Tim being morally grey in fanfic. it takes a specific flavor for me, and it's incredibly important to include that mental spiral along with it, of him struggling to justify it. i don't have any interest in "Tim Drake is loosy goosy with Bruce's morals and has the highest kill count and no one knows teehee" bc it doesn't play with the interesting parts of making Tim morally grey, which are fracturing his psyche. but all in all, i think it's fun to put Tim in a morally grey area and i will read it in fanfic and i enjoy writing it a lot
Joker Junior!Tim Drake - i've not written it on this account (yet) but on my main ao3 account one of my biggest fics surrounds this concept. this is one of those "well *technically* it's canon but only in a specific very divorced from the comics universe and would not work at all in the main timeline" so, i categorize it as fanon in that 95% of fics exploring the concept are not doing so within the Batman Beyond universe, but the main timeline. i just love it. I'll take any excuse to whump Tim, but this concept is so fun. psychologically breaking Tim will always be my favorite pastime. there are so many ways to explore the long-term effects this could have on him, how it could affect the Batfam. i'm not a fan of it being used as a "gotcha" to Jason or Babs' trauma with the Joker to paint Tim as the Ultimate Victim, but it is fun to see how their relationships would be affected by being mutual victims of him. (i have a vague JayTim idea where TIm fully retires from being Robin after being Joker Junior and killing the Joker, making Steph Robin for most of his typical Robin era and Jason still tracks him down out of curiosity bc he wants to know what happened and all. very underbaked but i've got thoughts.)
Renegade/Apprentice of Slade!Dick Grayson - this is another one where yes, this happened *sort of* in canon, but i highly doubt most people writing Renegate!Dick have read or are actually pulling from Nightwing: Renegade. it's just an exploration fo the concept fo Dick being Slade's apprentice and i will always eat it up in any capacity. whether Dick grows up with Slade from a young age, or chooses Slade for whatever reason later in life. it's not anything that works in canon bc it compromises Dick morally (similar to the above with Tim) and therefore will always come across incredibly fanon in most fics. but i can't say i don't enjoy it. it's fun to make Dick a little morally fucked up and see what you can make him under Slade's tutelage.
Jason & Damian Meeting in the League -there's no world where i believe this could work in the canon comics. (maybe in the Young Justice cartoon i suppose, but even then i think it's iffy) i would go as far to say it's wildly unrealistic. i don't see a world where Ra's would let Jason anywhere *near* Damian, bc Jason was Talia's pet project that he didn't approve of. that all said, there's something very interesting about how they *could've* met and them potentially bonding during that timeframe. them being somewhat brotherly during this time because Jason sees Bruce in Damian and sort of latches onto the kid and Damian is full of wonder hearing real stories about Batman and Robin, then that getting violently ripped away by Jason leaving the League is fun to me. it's fun how that could affect them within the Batfam and all. it's super fanon to me, but i do not care. i will eat it up
Bad Dad Clark Kent/Good Dad Lex Luthor - i will admit as a late, i've been less and less kind to this particular fanon bc of everything i've argued with people about, *this* one seems the most pervasive as misunderstood fanon. i don't mind when fanon exists, my gripe is when ppl try to claim it's canon. and the *arguments* i've had over this with people who can never seem to cite an actual comic are... frustrating. but that said, i think there is something fun to this strictly in fanon. the duality of who you expect to accept Kon and who you expect to hurt him being flipped is just sort of fun for the occasional guilty pleasure fic. it can make Kon's internal conflict a bit more interesting. the same goes for the Jon favoritism from Clark, it's not a canon thing (and i rlly wish ppl understood how complicated the timeline of Kon and Jon is and any distance from Clark toward Kon isn't malice, it's that Kon is from a timeline that Clark does not remember in the current canon so Clark just straight up doesn't know the poor kid.) but it's sort of fun to give Kon that complex of being overlooked and forgotten sometimes. making Kon just a *bit* more Luthor than Kent will *always* appeal to me in fanfic, especially if he *knows* it's wrong but craves approval from anyone who will give it.
Good Dad Bruce Wayne - i'll die on the hill Bruce is canonically a shitty father. maybe not to the extreme some people write him as, but he's not great at it. that said, i enjoy it in fanfiction. sometimes, i just want silly fluff or hurt/comfort where Bruce finally gets it right and manages to comfort whatever Batkid is in the fic. one of my favorite fics of all time is hinged on Bruce being a good dad, so i think it's just fun to explore how good the relationships *could* be, if Bruce was slightly less of an asshole. i usually prefer him as an asshole, but there are times i want low stakes nonsense.
Gotham Rogues Having Soft Spots for Robin(s) - just about every Rogue in Gotham has done something absolutely irredeemable, and most of them don't like or care about anyone in the Batfamily. but if there's a fic where one of the Robins inexplicably is sort of close with a Rogue and they have a cute silly relationship out of it? I'll eat it up i fear. Steph and the Riddler are besties? I'll believe it. Tim and Scarecrow get along pretty well? give me ten of these. Rogues protecting Robins just hits a spot. the unexpected nature of the relationship, as well as the fact they see each other regularly, can make a lot of good fodder.
#necrotic answerings#canon vs fanon#batfanon#batfamily#I was *going* to include “Janet and Jack Drake are bad parents”#then realized I don't really like that fanon anymore.#but I used to go *hard* for it even knowing it wasn't canon. it was all projection but still#nowadays I think the tragedy of Tim losing his parents the way he did is *far* worse if they loved him and were good to him.#I'm so serious about the Kon thing i've had *nasty* arguments where ppl got so rude to me telling me to “Google it”#like listen I get it. kon's canon backstory is currently difficult to understand#the timeline of the superboy mantle is a little confusing and most people have not read young justice (2019)#so for fanon it's far easier to simplify it as “clark just kinda sucks to kon” and i enjoy that#but the canon is also fun. it's fun when you consider how fucked up it is most people don't remember kon#and the timeline he remembers doesn't exist anymore.#also technically since they never killed off new-52!superboy on page there could be two superboys/kon-els running around rn. who knows.#i like to believe there is bc it's funny.#i have wanted to write a new-52!konkon/tim/kon sandwich#with the “is it selfcest or not” question#bc new-52!kon wasn't a clone of clark and lex.#so like. he's arguably a different character just sharing the name kon-el for some reason#also on the nightwing: renegade thing i know *damn* well most fanon-only fans haven't read it (no shade in that)#bc the fanon crowd despises devin grayson and she wrote it.#one day i'll write a meta about fandom treatment of devin grayson trust me.#this question was SO fun#i feel like i should have more answers?#if you'd asked me like six months ago this list would be three times as long#but the more i exist in this fandom somehow the saltier i get idk what's happening#so now i'm more and more attached to canon#but i will never begrudge someone for liking fanon#like i said my issue with it is the confusion of what is canon
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I know that it's not healthy parenting and all that but I love this page and quote
Source: Nightwing (1996) #101: Nightwing year one
#first of all it's pretty#second of all wow#that man is gonna be your father figure starting now and those are his first words to you?#He did did something better with it <3#At what cost i don't know#but he did#dc#batman#nightwing#dick grayson#robin!dick#Dc comics#comics#nightwing 1996#Nightwing year one#icare reads comics#I like this quote but also it's fucked up#Bruce that's a traumatized 8 years old do better
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really thinking about how Dick pulled off his acting abilities to their 110% to fake being different lovers for kory for the sake of maintaining his secret identity and relationship with her, like its hilarious, do you think kory have a picture book of all her lovers (dick) and showed them to his sibs and they use it as ammo lmao
#Batman when he realized someone has to go deep undercover for spyra: i know exactly who to call.#Hey dick remember that one time you were ginger?#Dick Grayson how did you feel when you found out Kory’s former lover (?) is The Nightwing himself?#Do you feel the pressure of not being in the superhero community? Does that give upur relationship with Supermodel Kory a disadvantage? 🎤🎤#And then someone tap these next 20 seconds of Dick bullshitting his way out of these interviews#Like he got the cover story and is a professional yes#but the fact he wanted to be with her so bad he got himself tangled like that is so funny to me lmao#dick grayson#kory anders#Or even kory being asked about her relationship with them lmao “what broke you up it was a very brief relationship”#and kory can’t say its because dick grew allergic to that specific hire glue they had back then: his hair was bad…#koriand'r#Titans
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Adding my two cents -- I'm really sad that Bea Bennet wasn't allowed to just be a civilian! Characters shouldnt need to be special to be worthy of consideration from heros, especially ones who we're supposed to view as members of their community. Thinking on good Nightwing comics, what really sets him apart is his connections to the community via civilian characters! Recently it feels like if someone in Nightwing doesn't act as a crazy cameo they aren't valued as much as they otherwise would be.... I've said this before but a major downside to a lot of comics is the cast not reappearing after a run regardless of their quality. If we want Nightwing to be different from Batman through his relationship to the community, if we want to actually care about Blüdhaven, why is Blüdhaven not given a firm identity outside of it blowing up?! I wish they would bring back those guidebooks they would do on characters and locations, giving them maps, specific characteristics, backstories, and everything -- even if they arent going to appear in the comics! This would make the world seem a lot more planned out and allow for authors to better piggyback off of one another! I also think it would be nice if when authors write about characters that they actually read prior comics... this seems obvious but some of the errors in characterization and lineups seem more derived from social media discussions than actual reading....
#while we're here what the hell was that last titans issue#you know idc for tom tylr but come ON#i mean peace and love -- lets even ignore the lineups all being wrong -- why did he make the JLA fight fir them????#this totally belittles the characters in terms of compotency and is obviously just to set up a 'we'll be cool one day haha' line ugh like#the titans were not the jr jla since like issue 25 of the 1966 run like.... lets get it together!!!#anyways#nightwing#dick grayson#blüdhaven#giggles twirls hair#comics
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Dear God how I fucking hate when people dismiss s character's traits because "that's just a facade! you as the reader have to see underneath it!!" like yeah no fucking shit Sherlock, a well written character has more than one (1) defining trait but that doesn't mean their most prominent one or the one most recognized by fandom ISN'T there
yes this is about people thinking dick grayson isn't actually a ray of sunshine, that it's just a mask. he's much more than the happy one, of fucking course, all batfam members (when written well) are, but that doesn't mean that being happy and bright is not a crucial part of his personality. he brings light to people's lives, he's a beacon of hope, that's what Robin was born for, as a light to Batman's darkness. That's what Nightwing is. He can be serious, sure. He's smart, an amazing strategist, incredibly good at fighting, he can be manipulative and morally gray and sometimes an objectively bad person. But he's ALSO funny and quippy and bright and sunshine. BECAUSE HE'S WELL WRITTEN.
Like Jesus stop making him so sad and wrong all the time just because you want so bad to go against "fanon". It's not fanon if it's literally his core trait. It's not fanon if it's what the character was BORN AS. God.
#I'm not sure if this even makes sense#it's almost 6am I haven't slept and I just saw someone say he's a manipulative bitch and to stop writing him as a ray of sunshine#and now I'm mad#because this parson had this lukewarm takes with most of the batkids#like yeah I get a lot of damian's traits and back story are deeply rooted in racism#but like he did try to kill tim. and he killed a bunch of people when he first got to Gotham. that's a thing that happened.#and no matter how racist the reason behind that plot line might have been#it's something that happened and choosing to believe it didn't happen because it doesn't fit your preconceived ideas of how#a character should or should not be is just plain stupid#you can explore the character and change their personality and play with them in fanfic sure that's what we all do#but don't pretend that canon doesn't exist. you can choose to utilize it or not but acknowledge it even if it's just to spit in it's face#damian's not tame he's not more chill than his brothers he's not misunderstood#he's a child who had a horribly traumatic childhood and reacts with violence because that's all he knows#Jason's angry and he has every right to be and to say he isn't is to erase an incredibly important part of his character#you don't get to tell a victim how to be a good victim. Jason's a victim.#dc#batman#rambles#batfam#batfamily#dc universe#dc comics#batman and robin#dick grayson#Jason Todd#Damian Wayne#nightwing#red hood#oh look I made a post about dc that is NOT about Tim#wild huh
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does anyone else find it fucked up that moon's friends protect themselves from her with the skyfire at the end of moon rising?
#wings of fire#moonwatcher#look okay i've been slowly rereading the series on and off again bc one of my friends is getting into the series#so correct me where i'm wrong in asking why kinkajou feels entitled for moon to disclaim she's a telepath and seer upon first meeting her#when the news that nightwings don't have powers anymore and that they manipulated the entire sandwing succession war conflict#for their own gain went PUBLIC so nightwings are a hated tribe#nevermind the fact that moon feels like an outcast among her tribe because she hatched off of the volcano and never had to suffer#though it's sweet that her mother cares for her and worries about her she still calls moon her 'weird little diamond'#and impresses upon her 'secret hidden safe' which is basically wof's conceal don't feel#when was moon supposed to feel safe enough in disclosing her power she's hated FOR having and hated for NOT having#do you (general) think she's in ANY position to advertise she's the tribe's ONLY true seer and telepath in generations safely?#'i get what kinkajou means but it feels almost like having to disclaim your trans or disabled. Is a bit fucked' is what my friend said#it's the same fucking thing as 'i'm losing the person i once knew' but perhaps not in those words and not nearly as harshly#i know kinkajou comes around to moon eventually and they remain friends. but there's something REALLY fucked about it imo#same friend pointed out there's a queerness to this which i will 100% agree on like it stings on a personal level#like. look i still like the series but man reading it critically and interacting with it in a more adult lens#is definitely an action i am doing right now.#i think i'm still correct in saying darkstalker was a child. evil is not created in a vacuum. hatred is taught not inherent.#it does not excuse him from the evil he did commit. but he was a child. he was a FUCKING ABUSED CHILD. augh. (quietly losing my mind)#rex rambles
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I don’t thinkk you guys really get it so I’m gonna say it because it’s important to me that everybody understands: Damian Wayne does not like murder or killing or any kind of death. He hates it actually. And I’m speaking canonically. That little boy was someone who was forced to kill and hurt people but never really wanted to. He never wanted to kill he had to.
#he’s driven first by compassion before anything else. just like Talia compassion is the main thing that defines them.#but also he’s someone who’s been told who he is and what to do his entire life and when you’re a child that’s not exactly something you know#better about#I don’t get why you guys understand that cass hates killing after her father forced her but not that Damian’s the same way#do you think he’d agree to leave the league to go with Bruce in the first place if he agreed with the league’s ways?#and he DID choose to leave#Bruce didn’t force him to#also while we’re on the topic of Damian stereotypes I’m not a fan of: what’s with the whole ‘feral’ thing?#like wtf?? that’s so weird to me. also seems kinda racist but y’all can make your own minds up about that.#dc comics#comics#robin#batfam#Damian Wayne#damian al ghul#batman#nightwing#redhood#batgirl#spoiler#dick grayson#signal#Talia Al ghul#ra’s al ghul#cassandra cain
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