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Your culture and crafting mood boards for the Noldor and Teleri are wonderful! They are so evocative and thought-provoking (and so carefully and beautifully composed). Your visuals are always such great worldbuilding references. Thank you so much for sharing! 🙂
This is such a kind ask I really really appreciate this. World building is one of my favorite things 🐢🐢🐢🐢
I love your writing! I often think of your fic where Maedhros is jealous of Húrin for his cheer and energy; it’s charming and funny and also makes me so sad knowing of course what will happen to Húrin :/
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The Thrall Children of Himring
A continuation of this here, with the help of @apocalypso-36 with Elrond, and @animeandbooksarelife who created itty bitty beastie.
Correspondence between Lord Elrond of Imladris and Lady Idril of Dol Amroth
Scholar Idril, I am an attentive reader of your works, especially when my own name comes up in it. I am writing to you now to inform you of an error you made, in referring to my blessed late brother, King Elros Tar-Minyatur, and myself as the 'Thrall-Children' of Maedhros Feanorion. I strongly believe I speak for both myself and my beloved twin when I humbly beg you edit your works to instead refer to us as his 'foster children'. While the conditions were far from ideal, and there was no shortage of problems with our relationship, he and Maglor Feanorion took care of us to the best of their ability. Thank you for your consideration. Lord Elrond Peredhel, Herald of High King Gil-Galad, Bannerman of Lindon.
My lord Elrond, I would like to start by profusely thanking you for taking a moment to correspond with a humble scholar, such as myself. As for the error you mentioned, it is no error at all, for I was referring to Maedhros’ apparent tendency to take in the children of escaped thralls or young escaped thralls themself, if they found themselves in need of shelter. I have only found two of these children ever referred to by name, the first named Ruinmir and the second only ever referred to as levain or little beast, but there is substantial evidence that they were not the only ones. Though I see now that my phrasing was confusing and I should reword for the sake of clarity. Though, now that you have opened dialogue, I find myself compelled yet again to ask if you would be willing to shed some light on certain details, as we seen the confusions that may come from working without the invaluable insight of people such as yourself. With admiration and hope of continued dialogue, Lady Idril of Dol Amroth
Excerpts of “On thralls and their lives in the north-east of Beleriand” by Saelgol of Lothlorien
“The greatest thrall communities were indeed centered on and concentrated around the fortress of Himring. Census data recovered from the ruins on Tol-Himling explicitly marks out it’s thrall populations, in a similar way to how they denote other elven cultures. Thralls are identified much the same way as the vanya, noldo and sinda populations. Though they enjoyed an additional measure of acceptance within Maedhros’s lands, does not mean they were considered a culture of their own right, rather than outcasts, living along the fringes of elven territories.” pp. 17
“Heavy policing of thrall communities was a common enough practice. Many lords feared that they were a threat to public order, “bringing back from angband barbaric practices and dark ghosts in their hearts”(Helcariel) such as bloodsport, a musical tradition named “night howling” by outside observers, and post-mortem cannibalism of their dead. These practices shook Exiles to their core, though Maedhros himself is said to have been disturbingly unbothered by it, which only added to his orcish reputation.”pp. 48
“Parentless children were a distressingly common sight amongst thralls. Often their caretakers had gone to great pains to smuggle them from the cursed land with no consideration for their own escape, or had been killed in the arduous trek. Others still were given mercy deaths at the hands of their brethren as they were too far gone to survive outside Angband. As a result, many children arrived alone into the care of thrall communities.” pp. 69
“Lord Maedhros was often noted to take in these children. Some of the very few written records we have from the hand of a thrall comes from a village chief, who wrote to Himring saying “We have two more mouths that we can feed, otorno. Two boys and a girl. The young boy and the young girl are desperately ill and we do not think they will survive, but the elder boy is healthy, he says his name is Ruinmir, and that the two younger are his little beasts.” And about a century later, we have records of an elf named Ruinmir Aldion, working in as a scout for Maedhros, and listed to have a dependant recorded as Levain, which I have verified is not a proper name but an epessë roughly translating to “Beastie.” By the accounts we have, the lord Maedhros fostered them both personally, though he never adopted either of them in earnest.” pp. 70
#I'm having too much fun procrastinating my actual academic work#also mention of cannibalism?#like truly offhanded but it's there#art#silmarillion#tolkien#writing#epistolary#Elrond#maedhros#oc#Ruinmir#Beastie#himring#worldbuilding#thralls of angband
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It just occurred to me that Maglor watched two different people jump with a Silmaril with the intent of taking it with them to their death- one to the earth, and one to the sea.
One became an emblem of hope. The other was lost to despair.
#sorry to inflict this on you :(#can’t help but wonder if Maglor felt like watching Mae jump#was a cruel punishment for driving Elwing to the edge#silmarillion#maglor#maedhros#the silmarillion#tolkien#feanorians#Silmarils#elwing#Sirion#tw: sui mention#my post
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Unfinished tales: ‘Maedhros afterward sent [the dragon helm] as a gift to Fingon, with whom he often exchanged tokens of friendship’
Me: 👀
#‘Tokens of friendship’ my ass#You don’t have to ship russingon to admit there’s something going on there#For no conceivable reason did jrrt need to mention that#And yet he finds it meet#my shit#silm#silm shitpost#russingon#maedhros#fingon
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Maglor: I'm actually starting to get concerned about what Elrond brings home.
Maedhros: About time. What clues you in? The warg pup or the sixteen orcs he has befriended and folded into society?
Maglor: He came home with a baby dragon this time. Elros said no for us, don't worry.
#Eleos is claiming the dragon for himself#Elrond can't be the one that has all the weird pets and/or friends#No one mentions the orcs that follow him around once he gets to Lindon(they're all to scared of what will happen#In Imladris his orc friends are more spread out so people don't realize he has over a hundred (except Erestor but he does the census so...)#lotr#lord of the rings#incorrect lord of the rings quotes#silmarillion#incorrect silmarillion quotes#incorrect quotes#elrond#lotr elrond#elrond peredhel#maglor#lotr maglor#maedhros#lotr maedhros#kidnap fam
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if i was thingol i also wouldn't participate in an alliance organized by the people who only one year ago kidnapped my daughter, tried to force her to marry into their family, tried to kidnap her again, and then tried to KILL her. and don't come at me with "it was only celegorm and curufin," because 1). thingol has no way of ascertaining that they were acting alone, and 2). so what if it was only celegorm and curufin??? why should he want to be involved with anything and anyone remotely related to them? and people wonder why he said fuck that noise
#not to mention the first kinslaying -- which the feanorians never did... anything about -- and the previous insults#like after all that did maedhros seriously hope thingol was going to say “hm yeah sure here i'll send a bunch of MY people to help you”#and it's not stated that he makes any particular effort to make up for any of it to doriath either#elu thingol#thingol#elwe singollo#union of maedhros#celegorm#curufin#tolkien tag#tolkien#jrr tolkien#lotr#the silmarillion
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A Meeting in Valinor
Elrond comes back from his first real meeting with Eärendil tired and unsure what to do. He gets some help from an unexpected source.
Dw this isn’t hating on any of Elrond’s parents. Pure fluff :)
Elrond had returned to his house and was lying with his head in Celebrian’s lap. He’d told her how the meeting had gone and flopped on the sofa, drained, before she’d soothed away some of his oncoming headache as she’d done many years before. Now he lay with his eyes closed, soaking in the summer rays as she read.
Celebrian jerked suddenly, and Elrond shot up, hand going to the knife in his boot. Some habits wouldn’t change.
“Ai! relax! It’s just me!”
Elrond’s face slackened.
“It cannot be...”
Celebrian looked between the two, eyes lingering on the semi-familiar features before her. Round ears. Beard. Warm grey eyes, wise yet playful. Elven cut, navy tunic with silver embroidery, and brown hair brushing his shoulders. She tensed at the closed expression on Elrond’s face, reaching for her own dagger as the figure shuffled nervously.
“Hello, Ada.”
Elrond released a strangled sound and the man ran to his open arms, desperately clutching the elf. Elrond pulled back, hand smoothing down unruly hair as if he’d done so many times before.
“Estel, how- You’re *dead.*”
Celebrian relaxed at the name, a gentle smile lighting her face as the human spluttered between tears. So this was her lost son.
Aragorn smiled tremulously as he replied.
“Exactly as you used to say Ada, Illuvatar’s mind is unknown in regards to the fate of men, and I guess I was allowed to come here.”
Elrond hugged him again.
“How’s Arwen?”
“She’s doing well, recently became good friends with Andreth.” A strange look came over Aragorn’s face and his foster father laughed, kissing his forehead. He turned to his wife, and it was then that Aragorn froze, seeing the elleth before him. He shot to his feet, bowing low before her.
“Milady, I-“
Celebrian shot the half-elf an exasperated look and grabbed one of the man’s hands, pulling him up. Aragorn looked at her, confused.
“Mil-“
“Call me ‘Milady’ again and I’ll toss you out the front door. Elrond said you used to call me Naneth.” Aragorn flushed, eyes on his boots and Celebrian laughed. “I take no insult, son of Elrond! It is only right considering you were not only adopted into the family, but also married my daughter.”
The Dunedan gaped, and she pulled him onto the sofa between herself and her husband, voice softening at the sorrow in Aragorn’s eyes.
“There is no need to feel guilty Estel, I long foresaw Arwen’s choice and understand she was loved and taken care of by the best of men.” She pulled him into a tight hug. “Thank you for giving her happiness. She was so sad after the orcs, I feared she’d never smile again.”
Aragorn froze for a moment, then buried his head into her shoulder, apologies spilling out his mouth. Celebrian rested a hand on his head.
“None of that now, I’m glad Arwen was able to find her strength again, even if it led her down a different path.” She pulled back and squeezed his shoulders. “And I’m glad to meet *you.*”
Aragorn bowed his head then settled back against the sofa. A comfortable silence filled the space until Elrond spoke.
“Not that I’m not glad to see you, ion-nin, but why are you here?”
Aragorn turned to face the half elf, a mischievous glint in his eyes as Elrond raised an eyebrow.
“Well this should be interesting.”
“I had some... unfinished business to attend to.”
“Is that so?”
Aragorn sat on a chair in front of the elves, and both of them straightened. He winced at the expectant look on his foster father’s face, reminded of every scrap he’d been pulled out of in Rivendell, then later as a ranger.
“It may have had something to do with your earlier conversation.” The look didn’t change and he sighed in defeat. “Ok fine. It had everything to do with it. I had a conversation with Earendil. Interesting man. Surprisingly relaxed.”
Elrond smiled tiredly and Celebrian took his hand.
“Interesting indeed. He… wasn’t what I expected.”
Aragorn’s laugh echoed, loud and warm and *human* in a way Celebrian knew her husband missed dearly. So many of Elrond’s friends had been mortal, so much of his family.
“Now that’s an understatement!” The man smiled wide. “In any case, I had a quick conversation with him after you left. He says he’d love to take you sailing and have a proper heart to heart.” The smile dropped to something more somber, more gentle. “He also says he understands if you need more time, and will wait as long as he needs.”
Elrond seemed to simultaneously age and relax.
“If you’d take my advice…” Aragorn began hesitantly, waiting for Elrond’s warm nod before continuing, “I think you should take him up on the offer.“
Elrond gave real thought to the words and Celebrian wondered just how well this man judged characters that Elrond was willing to take another chance. Any elf would have been shut down by now. Had been in the past.
“I do not know if I can.”
A familiar stubborn glint entered Aragorn’s eye. A fearlessness Celebrian was delighted to see.
“I say this with respect Adar, but you have to stop running away from this.”
The half-elf startled at the sharp words, but Aragorn continued before he could fully recover. Smart kid.
“For your own sake, you must face him. Just as you must one day face Elwing, Maedhros and Maglor… but this is a good place to start.” He leaned forward to take his father’s tightly clenched hands. “What did you tell me when my heritage was revealed? When I was terrified the weight of my past might drown away my present?”
A suspicion began to form in Celebrian’s mind, threatening to break out in a bright laugh and smothering hug for the son she’d never met. Of course. Of course.
Elrond closed his eyes and took a deep breath, wryness and pride in his eyes when he looked up at Aragorn.
“The past is but a small part of you. You are so much more your history, no matter what anyone else says.”
“Wise advice, no?”
“Seems a little narcissistic to agree, but I suppose it is.”
Squeezing Aragorn’s hands back, Elrond sighed and slumped back, eyes closing for a long moment. Aragorn glanced at Celebrian, who returned a small, reassuring smile. It was about time someone smacked some sense into her husband’s head, and this one knew how to push all the right buttons.
“I am afraid, little one.” Elrond finally whispered.
Aragorn grinned boyishly, and Celebrian’s suspicions were confirmed.
“That’s why I’m here.”
#Elrond#elrond peredhel#elrond half elven#celebrian#Valinor#Aman#fourth age#Eärendil#earendil#Elwing#Maedhros#Maglor#(mentioned)#surprise guest: Aragorn!#Aragorn#elessar#aragorn elessar#king elessar#house of elrond#Celebrian’s always wanted to meet the son Elrond speaks of so fondly#the one she knew Arwen would one day choose mortality for#listen she’s not bitter about this she knew what she was getting into when she married Elrond#also mother’s foresight n stuff is a wonderful thing#tolkien#lord of the rings#silmarillion#silm#silm fic#Lotr fic#ITHOF Writes
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Guess what I just finished ehehehe >:D
Oh yeah- the 'I see your wife' was a bit hard to do so I just replaced it with the next best 'murderer plus innocence' parallel I could think of-
(and the tags I got to cover the last few bits got cut off, so I have decided to include the last minute of dramatic commentary here instead-
:(:( Alas alack~ poor Finrod-
Oh look it's Gondolin! And Maeglin too, fancy that. Wonder why he's there, anyway, moving on-
Fingon gets some more screentime, -and no. I am not naming the Balrogs involved. They don't deserve it >:(
And after that it's pretty self explanatory.
I mean.
If you know who Feanor and his sons are you probably get what's going on here. :'(
>:)
#the silmarillion#silmarillion#silm art#now in order of appearance we have:#Namo#or Mandos#whichever you prefer#Feanor#the trees#some boots cause why not#the shores of valinor#yeye#Nerdanel#(and feanor but i already mentioned him)#Aqualonde#that cheerful cheerful spot-#ships burning oh dearie me-#then fingon feeling all betrayed#i was gonna do fingolfin but fingon is easier to make recognisable yknow?#morgoth#and-#Fingolfin#fighting morgoth. as you do#then- *takes deep breath-#Maedhros and Maglor#Celegorm Caranthir Curufin Amrod and Amras. (they aren't there for long enough to get their own separate tags. :D)#Then we got Doriath being splattered with- *ahem. Doriath. That peaceful peaceful kingdom...#and some dead feanorians. I am not writing all their names again. You know who dies at Doriath right?#Elrond and Elros#beren and luthien
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*taps mic* Maedhros and Maglor might not have been mentioned as Elronds foster-kidnap dads openly because no rights were bought by them. But as far as I'm concerned, Elrond snapping an orcs neck and defending Celebrimbors work notes with every fibre of his being bmight as well have been explicit references. Thank you.
#that's not even mentioning the trebuchet scene#or the troll#my man was feanorian af the entire time#like they might not have been mentioned but don't try to tell me his feral vibes weren't from them#the rings of power#elrond#maglor#maedhros
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I headcannon that after 3rd Kinslaying, and especially after Elrond and Elros left them in whatever fashion, Maedhros was a total dick to Maglor.
You know how sometimes old or sick people are nice to neighbours/nurses/strangers, but are horrible to their primal caretakers? That's them.
People aren't dicks to their caretakers just to be dicks - it's because they are often frustrated with themselves or their situation and don't know how else to deal with it or they can't deal with it the usual way. It also happens because, paradoxally, they feel safe around their caretakers - you can be a dick because you know they won't leave just because of that.
And boy, did Maglor cast himself in a role of caretaker (let's not kid ourselves, he wasn't qualified, and with his own problems to boot), and BOY, did Maedhros resent him for it. He did not NEED help, he did not DESERVE help, he's not another kidnapped child MAGLOR, I'M the older brother, I should take care of YOU YOU WRECK, WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO BABYSIT YOU GROW UP ALREADY and leave me Nothing is EVER your fault, even when you left me to Angband as you should Why would you care now, it amounted to NOTHING before, it's WORTHLESS
And about half the time Maglor just takes it, actually likes it even. Mostly because of his guilt complex about how he deserves it, but also because Maedhros is only like this with him - he's trying his best to pretend to be fine and be a leader to few followers they have left, because they deserve better and that's the only thing he can give them now, and their brothers are all dead and would always be Too Little to act like that around them anyway. Maedhros would behave himself even around Fingon, to make him think rescuing him was worth something. So by being a dick to Maglor, Meadhros sees him as an equal, a safe haven. Maglor basks in that.
But obviously no one could just take such abuse like it's nothing, and Maglor is a Feanorian too, is prideful and stubborn, with his own laundry list of complains about Maedhros, and also unwell, and also thought of a new insult while lying awake at night and just wants to yell too. So half the time Maglor yells back and their yelling matches would bring orcs to tears, with hate and blame dripping from every word. I don't have enough imagination to picture it realistically, and actually I don't want to, it's too heartbreaking.
And sometimes, one or the other just starts crying. They don't talk about these times.
After some time, their arguments and insults are just a noise, something to repeat endlessly to the point of boredom.
By then, what actually hurts are the words that were not meant to harm.
Example 1:
Maedhros: 'did an all-night inspection of their stores cause he couldn't sleep' I found a herb you always liked to wash your hair with.
Maglor: 'doesn't remember last time he washed his hair, no less scented them'
Maglor: 'choked up' Appreciated.
Example 2:
Maedhros: 'feels like he's dragging Maglor to damnation with him' You could go with the twins, you know.
Maglor: 'doesn't want to upset Maedhros today so decides to pretend as if that was actually an option' Vanyar would probably like my singing but you know they would get mad at you for having better battle plans than them.
Maedhros: 'now KNOWS he's dragging Maglor to damnation with him'
Maedhros: 'dying inside' Of course they would.
When love hurts, it's easier to be a dick.
#maedhros#maglor#silmarillion#silm#barely related but it plays into my headcannon that when nerdanel didn't went with them and feanor died#maglor and maedhros became New Mom and Dad for the rest of Feanorians#not even with any creepy context from them it was an automatic process#oh Mom left Dad Maglor is similiar to her guess Maglor is New Mom#oh Dad's dead? Maedhros is New Dad#boom problem solved#when Maedhros was unwell after Tears Celegorm got to be Dad for some time#it's so unhealthy when you look from the outside#it's unrelated to anything except Maglor as New Mom resents any mentions of abandoning the others#Maglor is NOTHING like Nerdanel#THIS mom won't leave anyone thank you very much#and then Maedhros stays in Angband for 30 years lmao#so unhealthy#angst I guess#I feel it went in different direction than it started but eh
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Things to do When You’re Bored on Thangorodrim
Cry
Hit the rocks a little
Regret things
Cry some more
Look at the stars and feel inspired
Hit the rocks some more
Feel stupid about smashing up your good hand on the rocks
Try to count the orcs passing underneath
Give up
Take a nap
Feel distantly impressed the orcs are still marching
Try to count the orcs again
Do a lot of orc-multiplication in your head
Realize they’re marching in a circle
Feel kind of gaslit
Look up at the stars
Sing a little ditty (to the stars)
Watch the orcs leave
Take a nap
Nothing, for an unknown amount of time
Try some bird calls
Feel kind of embarrassed about the quality of your bird calls
Take a nap
Watch the bats
Chip off a bit of the rock and toss it in general direction of the bats to trick them into thinking it’s an insect
Feel kind of satisfied about tricking the bats
Feel kind of guilty about tricking the bats
Miss your father
Get pissed at your father. What the fuck, right?
Take shelter from the rain against the rock wall
Get wet
Think about how pretty lightning is
Regret things
Cry
Kick the rock wall
Chew your nails
Scold yourself for falling back into bad habits
Do long division in your head
Scream
Nothing, for an unknown amount of time
Wake up
Look down at the marching orcs
Think about that one time four hundred years ago you came to court with your robes undone in the back
Miss your brothers
Miss your mother
Miss your father
Think about how your father’s dead
Regret things
Wonder what they’re doing back home
Imagine a lot of lamps, probably
Think about the making of lamps
Cry
Feel kind of stupid about crying re: lamps
Hope the bats didn’t actually eat the rock you tossed
Apologize to the bats for tricking them with the rock
Sing a little ditty (to the bats)
Chew your nails
Scream
Kick the rock wall
More long division
Invent a new kind of pull-up which involves being chained to a sheer rock face by your right hand and crying a lot
Watch eagles
Sing a little ditty (to the eagles)
Come up with an elaborate story in your head about how the eagles are in love
Realize the eagles are brothers
Feel guilty about the story you made up in your head
Take a nap
Look up at the stars
Do your pull up a whole bunch of times
Lick the rock wall
Try to remember how to write a villanelle
Eat a piece of your own skin that peeled off your hand after you hit the rock wall
Feel gross
Hope your brothers are coming to get you
Hope your bothers aren’t coming to get you
Cry
Swing back and forth on the chain a little
Sing a little ditty (just in general)
Wave to the eagles as they return
Watch eagles
Try to think of good and pure things while watching the eagles
Fuck it, incest eagles
#maedhros#my fic#kinda#tw mentions of incest#between animals though#kinda gross also#sometimes u just have to get a very stupid idea out of your head
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Awhile ago, @mozart-the-meerkitten sent an ask about how Angband effects the senses of its prisoners. So this is so late and I’m so sorry. I have a couple of relevant posts, namely this one where I talked about time and routine in Angband. I also made a post awhile back about how Maedhros’s senses are affected! A lot of this will apply more generally! I’m thinking of reposting this and adding sections for other survivors.
Content warnings: structural/coercive control, mentions of solitary confinement and sensory deprivation
Angband world building and aftermath of Captivity Masterlist
Angband is not an environment fit for long term habitation by elves or by humans. Indeed, most humans in the fortress die within weeks to months. The orcs and other mortal residents are forced to adapt in brutal ways to survive and the consequences upon their physical, mental and emotional health are extreme.
Angband is structured to be oppressive and disorienting to the prisoners and this effects all aspects of sensory processing. I talked about this mostly on my time and routine post but the control of structure and information is one of the most important aspects of how prisoners are maintained.
Sensory information is often intentionally limited of a variety of reasons; the environments of cells and to the areas where thralls are forced to work are often kept as monotonous as possible. What scraps of clothing prisoners are allowed are often muted, by design and by usage, singing, poetry and speech between prisoners are forbidden, and the air is heavy with suffocating scents of ash, rot and the deep earth. I didn't want to get into food too much because I've made so many posts specifically about that but this is another important aspect of communal and cultural life that is heavily and violently controlled. I think a lot about the most literal manifestation of this, how Gwindor emerges with the color seemingly drained out of him.
Many lose their ability to take pleasure in the variety of sensory experiences that make up meals, or play, or art.
Some prisoners go years without hearing another's voice.
Sensory experiences unique to elves are also affected. Elves navigate and orient in certain unique ways, using the earth, trees, and even rocks to orient themselves. (I’m basing this in part of Legolas’s words about the elves of Hollin where he appears to draw sense memories from flora and stones)
When elves are kept away from the natural world, in monotonous environments, without access to plant life or even a variety of geological information, some can enter a sort of stupor. Even in Angband which of course does contain rocks and life in the form of fungi, algae and even some plants, Cyanobacteria and certain creatures, much of the mines and dungeons are deliberately kept barren, lifeless and separated enough from the caverns and tunnels. What information they receive is rarely comforting.
After the monotony of Angband, the normal sights, sounds, smells, tastes and other sensations of the outside world can be extraordinarily intense.
In the aftermath, some prisoners experience extreme awareness of sensory information as a form of hyper vigilance. Of course acute perception is typical for elves but for some prisoners, reactions and emotions to sense perception are incredibly heightened or they become unusually overwhelmed. Life is a barrage of unbearably bright lights, whispers heightened to a painful degree, the slightest smells unbearable, and different senses intermixing to create
Others experience a sort of numbing, have difficulty distinguishing or processing sensory information, or become highly dissociated.
Sensory deprivation is frequently used as a punishment, often alongside solitary confinement. On many of the lower levels of cells where prisoners are held for this purpose, the only light comess from the torches carried by the guards who passed infrequently. The din of the fortress, a cacophony of countless anvils, of the shifting of stone, of growls and screaming and snatches of song, was dulled here. It was not uncommon for long stretches to go by without any sound at all.
Other note: as always when I make Angband posts, I think additionally about Aerin and other characters in oppressive environments outside of Angband. Especially for this I have so many things on Aerin and the senses which I’ve explored in several posts and want to write more about especially if there’s interest. Even without the claustrophobic, geographically isolated nature of Angband, the effects of complex trauma on sensory experiences are really interesting. Anyways just wanted to say this because I love her :)
#the silmarillion#in the iron hell#beleriand#musing and meta#post angband#maedhros#gwindor#mentioned in note:#aerin
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Fingon, sighing: my boyfriend and I got a couch. Immediately after we set up the couch, we cannot use the couch, because there are swords on it.
#incorrect quotes#silmarillion#fingon#maedhros#russingon#i mean maedhros wasnt mentioned but he was who i had in mind#this quote came from me#i love my bf so much but why are there swords on the couch#sorry. why are there swords and an axe on the couch
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Maedhros during the War of Wrath
I've been thinking a lot about it lately. Here comes a big hc drop: For starters let me say, I imagine the War of Wrath as maybe not a really long conflict, at least not very long for elvish standards, but a very devastating one. Beleriand was hardly liveable at this point, so I imagine that most of the supplies they had was what the host of Aman had brought with them. Considering that, they probably started running out of things after the first couple of years of war effort. Yes, the Balar island was still functioning at this point, but I don't think they had strong enough economy to do much more than sustain themselves and I think maybe there were some rare deliveries from Valinor from time to time, but I have this idea that it wasn't nearly enough. The war was consuming way more resources than could've been provided and as the time was going on it was getting gradually worse. Like I think that at the most critical point there were deficiencies of literally everything, from food & medical supplies to clothes & weapons. They stopped sending archers to fight, because there was no material to make arrows anymore, thousands of soldiers were dying from curable injuries, because the healers (there was a very strong shortcoming of them as well) didn't even have things as basic as bandages & maintaining hygiene was nearly impossible ( don't get me started on how it impacted Elrond who I headcanon to be one of the healers there and only something like 18 in human years and had to witness something like 5 out of 6 of his patients die and there was no time to even sleep, not to mention rest, because every wasted second is a lost life and there was just an overwhelming amount of death and despair all around him, and he wasn't able to do anything about it, wasn't able to really help) So let's imagine these thousands of exhausted, underfed, miserable, war-worn, I would even dare to say - halfway dead people, who just want this horror to end.... and then there's Maedhros. Maedhros, who had survived horrors far worse back when he had been a prisoner in angband, had survived hunger that could never be compared by any means to these little food deficiencies he had to deal with now, yeah, he didn't get to eat anything in three days, so what? This guy had watched his own downfall from the front row, had slayed civilians in Doriath and Sirion instead of fighting Morgoth... And now he was back where he belonged. On the frontlines. Leading armies against the enemy. Once again doing what he knew he should've been doing all that time. I believe during the War of Wrath Maedhros was more alive than he ever had been since his husband's Fingon's death. He was literally radiating energy and charisma, his mental state was very much improved. Once again he was Maedhros the tall, the Lord of Himring a Noldorin Warlord, not some heinous murderer, not a monster. For the first time in many years he was doing something that actually felt right.
#silmarillion#silmarillion headcanon#the silmarillion#war of wrath#maedhros#elrond#russingon#only mentioned tho
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Having some Fingolfin and Fingon family feels today to hurt myself.
I always hc that Fingolfin goes a little fragile - at least internally - with grief after losing Argon, his youngest son, right after arriving in Middle Earth. This is after he has been burdened by the loss of his father, his brother, his son and so many of his people on the ice. And I see him as someone who loves deeply.
And then, while the wounds are still fresh, Fingon goes to find Maedhros. His eldest, who I hc he has a very close relationship with, goes into literal hell for the cousin that abandoned them (they probably have not talked about the finer details of that fiasco yet) and Fingolfin can do nothing but watch and wait. He frets. He struggles. And he unravels. Visibly.
And when Fingon comes back with Maedhros, despite really wanting to stay with him, he stays with his father in apology. Because he can see the threads barely keeping him together. And so against his heart's wishes to go further east when the sons of Fëanor do so, where Maedhros is not as far, he stays. He stays for his father's sake.
And then Turgon and Aredhel dissappear without a word. Whispers say they are dead. Some whispers speak of a worse fate for Aredhel.
And Fingon stays because he knows his father cannot take another person he cares about leaving him. Just the same as Fingon can't lose his father. And so even though his heart aches, he stays.
Fingon stays and supports his father until the world is consumed by flames, and still, he fights because he will not leave his people. And he will not leave his father.
Until in the end, his father leaves him.
#fingon#fingolfin#dagor bragollach#maedhros#mentioned that is#nolofinwe#findekano#family feels#angst#silmarillon#tolkien#tolkien tag#silm tag#silm#headcanons#oh look I made myself sad#messed up families all around#none of these people are well adjusted
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POV your girlfriend puts the devil to sleep and you opt to steal his treasure instead of killing him.
My dad casually says ‘[Beren] could’ve killed [morgoth].’
Yes, Beren wasn’t considering this possibility. But: why not? I will not call Beren self-serving. But he clearly was not serving the war effort.
Very few of Tolkien’s characters are proactively good, and very few are proactively evil.
One cannot seperate morally passive characters.
#I’m going to get argumentative and opinionated in the tags#Okay go#do not insinuate that Beren is morally superior to maedhros#I said do not insinuate that Beren is morally superior to maedhros#Beren? He is shown once to go after his father’s body#and after that he is self-serving#Maedhros is shown to give up the crown#And after that he is self-serving#Is there proactive good? None evidenced#Beren did not kill Morgoth and Maedhros did not stop the fourth kinslaying#Are they so different? I say no#Now#I am sick and tired of there being two sides to every opinion#One is feanorians are morally superior#The other is Lúthien’s line is morally superior#the only line we can separate as doing proactive good is fingolfin’s#From Fingon’s multiple mentioned deeds of valour#It indis#to earendil#Feanorians are almost never shown to be proactively good#Finarfinians are almost never shown to be proactively good#beleg and mablung? I would argue they are good#Besides that? It is hard to separate any character morally speaking#silmarillion#silm#Silm meta#beren and luthien#beren erchamion#beren
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