#I’m sorry for discourse

[rotteneldritchhorror]

Sorry for discourse but I DID NOT JUST SEE SOMEONE LUMP AROALLO AND ALLOACE PEOPLE IN WITH STRAIGHTBIANS AS “Contradictory labels”

HUH.

Being allosexual and Aromantic isn’t contradictory??? Being alloromantic and asexual isn’t contradictory???

[faerygardens]

I think the only reason dream hasn’t unleashed a twitlonger yet is because he knows the minute he does philza minecraft will go in for the kill

[housederiva]

[azaharinflames]

went to my parents’ place to spend the night because i didn’t feel like being alone, and my mom being my mom, made it so i just started crying to her. like full on sobbing.

and talking with her made me realize why this truly is upsetting.

it’s because we got hate when what we tried really hard to give was love and patience. we tried to be the bigger person and received a fuck off. and this in no way means next time i won’t choose to be the bigger person. it just means that makes me sad.

and it makes me sad because they also rewarded hate. they rewarded hate with love, and that just feels even worse.

in a week where everything has been so scary, and where hate has been so predominant, we truly were expecting to feel comforted by our comfort show.

and instead we got what we got. and now the comfort show is just another part of the hate.

[loulovingho]

Why anyone would waste time being mean to someone for liking a certain ship is beyond me. You mean to tell me you spent your summer writing anonymous hate in people’s inboxes and threatening real people within the tv show?

Bizarre. I spent my summer imagining my ship fucking each other in every way shape and form imaginable.

You should try it.

[willestears]

ABDICATION TRUTHERS HOW ARE WE FEELING?!!

[theminecraftbee]

it is kind of gratifying that every time someone brings up the weirdly rabid iskall hatedom on tumblr everyone is like “huh? what? they parasocially despise who?” because like yeah I don’t get it either but it’s been something he’s faced the entire time I’ve watched him (it’s just that recently he’s figured out how to find them funny as opposed to getting upset because of them—not that I blame him for getting upset, to be clear, it’s awful to have people decide to hate you for seemingly everything you do, but it’s nice that recently he’s been able to be like “yeah they should be CONSTRUCTIVE. if they say I don’t deserve to be on hermitcraft, who should they get to replace me?” instead of getting one guyed).

anyway, if you were wondering: yeah they all sound like that one insane comment on Joel’s video. sometimes a bit less conspiracy-brained and a bit more “you personally are killing hermitcraft by not hanging out with grian enough” or “everyone knows you’ll just abandon us for modded. sad”. but yeah sometimes just like that guy.

yes they’re all that hard to take seriously.

no I don’t know why they’re here either.

yes this is great motivation to comment on an iskall video or get into his content, to do it out of spite, yes?

[inigofication]

you guys will never believe what game I’ve been playing

[lexosaurus]

the only anti i am is anti vanilla protein powder. sorry guys but chocolate protein powder is just always superior in every situation.

[lexirosewrites]

i’m not even going to tag them because they don’t deserve anyone’s attention, but if you see that stupid fucking gossip blog going around on here, please block it! it’s just someone coming to live out their Regina George fantasy and bully others to feel better about themselves. this exact same bullshit already happened on twitter and it’s both the reason i almost left this fandom and the reason my mental health got to an all-time low last year. we don’t need more hate and cruelty in our fandom than we already have. let’s spend our time uplifting others, promoting our favorite fics, and reblogging art to show our enthusiasm, not making an online ‘Burn Book’ where we trash talk others and make them want to leave entirely. i love you guys, but if this glorified bullying is something you support, i’m asking that you unfollow and even block me entirely because i want nothing to do with that shameful and truly ugly behavior💛

[lesbianjackies]

it’s actually insane how you people watch this show and pick up on nothing. wdym jackie taylor is a narcissist. how are you people still basing your view of her off of shauna’s textually unreliable account of her behavior. like i’m sorry do you know what a narcissist is because jackie taylor is not one!! 😭😭 she is entirely motivated by what other people think of her and a desire to be loved and seen as good, especially by shauna. like. that is not narcissistic behavior. you sound actually stupid

[incorrectquoteswwdits]

It fits for all sides of the fandom!

[vampirenicotine]

i usually stay quiet because i don’t like to engage in fandoms of any kind anymore, but the things i’ve been shown from iwtv twitter is concerning. idk what assad/armand fans think they’re trying to achieve by disrespecting jacob, delainey, sam, and the rest of the cast by saying armand is the sole reason anyone watches this show and that he’s the best actor on the show etc, but yall are not doing yourselves any favors. this is not tvd. this is not the cw. using assad for agenda shipping purposes because you hate sam/lestat, and reducing louis to an object or a prize to be won, and trying to knock louis/jacob out of his lead position on a show where he is the best/most nuanced written gay BLACK male character in history is disgusting and so extremely disrespectful to jacob who is literally the cutest/kindest human being ever.

this show is a team effort. everyone involved with iwtv are master class actors, writers, set designers, etc and when it comes to acting—to credit one actor for the show’s success is very off putting. (especially when you take into account delainey had only two weeks to prepare for claudia and gave the performance of a lifetime.) there are many who do not engage with this fandom because of takes like this and all this will do is put people off assad/armand which is the last thing anyone needs. cast members of color and characters of color should not be pit against each other on the ONLY show on tv right now that allows them to be great.

[clearancecreedwatersurvival]

Look people can discourse about how problematic a ship is and how terrible people are for shipping it all they want, but the reasons they try and assign for shipping something are usually pretty ridiculous. The only actual point of discrimination on whether or not I’m gonna ship a pairing is just how narratively compelling the character dynamic is. Do they play off each in an interesting way? Is there some good narrative symbolism involved?? I’m there.

Yes that does mean I’m often a basic bitch and end up enjoying whichever slash and femslash ships are popular BUT there’s usually a reason why a bunch of writers have gotten into something! Tbh! Shit being popular doesn’t mean it’s bad, stuff usually pops off for A reason, regardless of it’s a reason you personally agree with.

[eclectic-sassycoweyes]

Okay. The thing is - we’ll never get everything from this show, we’ll never get to see everything play out. The conversations will always be fractioned and half. It’s a prime time network show that gives us 45 minutes of screen time each episode spread out between a whole cast of characters and plot lines and action sequences.

And my point with that is: Everything outside of what we see in canon is >us< filling in the blanks, interpreting and basically finishing the characters and the storylines.

If you dislike a character or storyline, a large amount of what you dislike will be of your own making. Which means that you created that negative take, only to be negative about it.

If a character isn’t giving all their background and reasons, or isn’t providing what you find to be a sufficient apology for what you believe is a ‘wrong doing’ then that’s you deciding that their reasons were bad instead of valid. You deciding to go ‘I hate this character bc they didn’t apologize’ instead of going ‘I trust that this character apologized but I hate that we didn’t get to see it’ or even ‘I hate that they wrote this character as not apologizing’.

And like. Just because I love these characters and this show or a certain storyline doesn’t mean I think we can’t be critical of it. And it doesn’t mean I expect everyone else to love anything or everything about it. And mostly with this negativity for negativity’s sake, it just makes me think ‘well people are weird’.

Because I literally don’t get watching a show you don’t like and then spending time posting about it using that show’s fandom tags, or painting a character in a bad light just so you can feel negative about it. I don’t get going for drama and negativity when you can go for joy. I get criticizing or even hating the writing, talking about writing that might be problematic, and not resonating with the way a storyline or a character is written, but I don’t get hating a Character that is, in fact, not real and can never be fully fleshed out in a show like this.

But the problem is also when these takes either:

1.) are meant for and created to deliberately reach into other people’s place of joy and create drama.

And, even more so, 2.) when they are racist, ableist, misogynistic in nature and thus are doing real harm to real people. Which, is in fact very much the case when TK is called a ‘twink’ and that term is meant as derogatory or his addiction is being used against him; when Carlos isn’t being emphasized with at all, and attempted to be understood for his reasons, feelings and actions, or isn’t allowed to have complicated, ‘negative’ emotions but is expected to be there to be TK’s ever perfect and present support rock; when Iris is being called words like crazy, or other derogatory terms and her illness or trauma isn’t acknowledged, or she’s being painted stereotypically and as an un-nuanced character bc of her mental illness.

And I don’t get it bc we literally see TK being strong for and supporting Carlos several times in canon. We see Carlos developing and working on his insecurities, educating himself on addiction to best be there for TK. We are told where those insecurities come from. We saw TK’s struggles with active addiction. We literally saw Carlos’ dad being shot in his own home wearing the tux he was supposed to wear as Carlos’ best man, just when their relationship and old wounds were on the mend, heard his mother, who watched it happen, scream down the line while on the phone with Carlos, who also heard it happen. We don’t see anybody but Carlos seeking justice, and we still see Carlos making an effort to spend quality time with TK and communicate openly with him. And we saw TK going to bed without his husband not for the first time, knowing that he’s in pain and that grief has previously let him to feel alone and to close up and end up in a dangerous and unhealthy place, where TK couldn’t reach him or help him. We know that there is past trauma and experience for TK that will make him recognize patterns and make him worry for both Carlos’ wellbeing, and for their marrriage.

And, we see them loving, caring for and forgiving each other through it all. We see a relationship with two people who are not always right, not always perfect, but who are doing the best they can and being by each other’s sides through that. We see nuanced and realistic conflicts with root in both of their trauma. [And loving one character and trusting their judgement but not trusting their love and evaluation of the other is just very difficult for me to understand.]

Everything apart from that, the thoughts, feelings and motivations we assign them, the moments, conversations and apologies we imagine or don’t imagine to have taken place, how two characters came from having a conflict to saying ‘I love you’/‘I forgive you’, or to being friends and dancing at a wedding, what lead characters to say “I’ll keep a light on”/“I feel like we’re starting to drift apart”/“we’re doing great”, what else they might have said, and what they might have felt in that situation, is stuff we make up and put into the story. And so it is up to us whether we try and understand and love these characters or whether we want to make them into bad people, and then hate them for it.

[zorosdimples]

there seems to be this common sentiment that you’re only allowed to feel lonely when you’re physically isolated—when you don’t have friends, when you’re estranged from family, etc. but the truth is that loneliness is much more of a mental struggle—a frame of mind—than it is a physical state of being or a verifiable fact.

for example: think about a point in your life where you have felt incredibly and all-consumingly alone. sure, maybe you didn’t have many people around you. but i’m also willing to bet that there was at least one person in your life that cared—be it a friend or a partner or a teacher. but you didn’t confide in or open up to anyone because you either 1. were embarrassed; 2. thought they wouldn’t understand; or 3. didn’t want to be a burden.

none of these hang-ups are indicative of us actually having no one to speak to—no loved ones to comfort us. rather, they’re our own mental struggles which reflect our personal insecurities and emotions. at the end of the day, having friends around you doesn’t mean that you can’t (or won’t) have days where you feel isolated. you can have a sea of friends and family and mentors who adore you; but they can’t exactly reach out to that solitary place in your mind.

it’s silly to gatekeep feelings of isolation, especially on the internet. when people bring up “cliques” on tumblr, it’s usually rooted in a place of insecurity—one that we can all empathize with, as social media tends to exacerbate our personal feelings of inadequacy. but also, these individuals are generally pointing to small friend groups. a group friends isn’t inherently cliquish, because calling them such would mean that they are at their root exclusionary.

defining inclusivity within an online space is difficult, but often, people are quick to cry “clique” without any nuance. if someone is kind to you, i wouldn’t call that exclusionary behavior—would you? are they barring you from public spaces? are they actively targeting or harassing you? if not, your feelings are exactly that: your feelings. we can’t project our insecurities onto others and assume the worst; we need to give others the benefit of the doubt. we all have lives offline that are often more difficult than we will ever divulge.

i guess what i’m trying to say is that while we all are allowed to (and do, at times) feel lonely, we are each responsible for regulating our own emotions. going out of your way to blame others for your problems—when you have no evidence, no established patterns of behavior to reference—is childish. instead, let’s assume good intent, love on one another, and always be open to growth.