#I think a lot of us (as a community) try to make ourselves more... “singlet” to blend in even around those who know abt our plurality

[mewos-laptop]

Hi, just a reminder, there are singlets out there who love hearing abt your plurality and your system, and who genuinely learn so much from you and your headmates, and respect them as their own beings

Plurality esp is rlly scary to share for a lot of us, since it's so unknown, but I promise you that singlets care abt us, care abt YOU, no matter how their perception of 'you' changes, and no matter HOW 'you' change

There are so many singlets who want to learn and understand, and who want to support you and your headmates no matter what

[sysmedsaresexist]

As someone with OSDD (if I’m right) what’s the worst misinfo about DID that us endos discuss in our spaces? /genq

JCYDJFCYS I love this question, I want my mods to jump in, too, but I'm going to spice it up with the worst misinformation from both sides.

For me, Dude, the worst I've seen in endo circles... is that DID is the same thing as mediumship. This is going to seem like I'm vagueing one of two people, but it's not you two (you'll know who you are). There's actually someone from before them that gave me the worst taste for that discourse, and probably made me a lot more angry about it.

In anti circles, it's got to be that dissociation is solely trauma-based. It's the most fundamental misunderstanding that leaks into everything else

I think those are my two biggest peeves.

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Mod Quill here to say FFFFFF I HATE MISINFO. Gosh it really is in all the communities, too.

In endogenic spaces, it’s hard for me to decide, but I think it’s the idea that the ToSD is ableist because “it supports final fusion” (which is its own can of worms, which I think Mod Robo might touch on, if my guess is correct). The ToSD doesn’t even fucking mention final fusion get off it. I hear about the ToSD being ableist constantly, and genuinely, it seems like just being medical at all in any way is considered ableist…

Meanwhile, anti-endos? Good lord. The worst misinfo I see is the gatekeeping of trauma. “You can’t develop DID from XYZ” — congrats! You’re a fakeclaimer who doesn’t understand how trauma works. I pray no newly discovered systems find you.

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Mod Robo here! Oh gosh, what misinfo haven't I seen? I swear I've seen the wildest shit!

Some of the worst stuff from pro-endos was them claiming or implying that CDDs are just the "broken" versions of endogenic plurality. I've seen people claim that DID doesn't require trauma, that the DID diagnosis only exists to stigmatize endogenic plurals, and that CDD systems who use terms like "parts" or "alters" just want to dehumanize ourselves and others.

Around 2019, a pro-endo started spreading a rumor that MPD was renamed to DID in order to stigmatize plurals which is just so horribly incorrect. Multiple dissociative disorders were renamed at the same time to have the word 'dissociation' in them, and it was done by a team of researchers. The pro-endo used the previous DSM chairman's ableism to spread lies and drag innocent DID systems into discourse.

Like mod Quill said, there's been a ton of misinfo from pro-endos over ToSD (theory of structural dissociation). I've seen people claim that it's completely bunk because one of the researchers who worked on it (there were multiple) lost his medical license for abusing a patient. I've also seen pro-endos try to apply ToSD to endogenic plurality and conclude that ToSD must be bunk because it doesn't fit? It just makes no sense to me because the theory was created to explain trauma-related dissociation caused by disorders like PTSD and DID, etc... It has nothing to do with plurality.

I've also seen tooons of horrible shit from pro-endos AND anti-endos about final fusion and fused alters/systems. I've seen people say it's comparable to grooming or suicide, or that these systems are just secretly "pluralphobic" and trying to become singlets. Honestly, the hatred and misinfo I've seen people say about fused systems is some of the worst.

As for anti-endos, I've seen lots of bad misinfo too... One of the worst things is gatekeeping common CDD things based on trauma type. For example, saying that nonhuman alters are only possible in systems who experienced ritual abuse. Other common CDD things I've seen anti-endos say can only happen due to ritual abuse: gatekeeper alters, subsystems, polyfragmentation, alters with number names or color names, switching due to triggers, alters who feel loyal to their abusers, alters that other alters can front through, certain headspace stuff like checkered floor tiles, having a headspace in general, etc.

I could say more but my reply is already longer than both Dude's and Quill's combined. I'll just leave it off here!

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Mod Signal: I like this ask a lot lol. It shows genuine curiosity and a desire to improve spaces. Misinfo collects like dirt around syscourse. We all have to sweep regularly to make sure that shit gets thrown out.

On the pro-endo side, the worst I've seen is endo systems attempting to lean into the fantasy model of CDDs to support their own plurality. That model has been debunked for quite a while, and it has hurt so many goddamn people. CDDs are trauma-based, we don't have to reverse scientific progress or fakeclaim some of the first cases of recorded CDDs to support endo systems.

On the anti-endo side, my least favorite bit of misinformation is the idea that the TOSD shows how different people's trauma ranks in the trauma Olympics. The idea that someone with polyfragmented DID must have had things worse than an OSDD 1B system who must have had things worse than someone with BPD, etc. The level of dissociation required for each label in the DSM relies on so many more factors than just "who had it worse". There are biological dispositions to dissociation to take into account, there's the reminder that what's traumatic to a child isn't always considered traumatic to an adult, there's attachment styles to take into play. There is so much more to the science than "I had it worse than you and I have the diagnosis to prove it".

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Everyone is welcome to reblog and add their own. This could be a good learning opportunity for people to go, "wait, that's not true??"

[syscultureis]

This might me a weird confession or not something you guys wanna talk abt but I need someone to hear this so here we go anyway.

I used to be a system, kinda, I used to think I was a system and was openly a system in online sys communities with system friends; one day I just kinda disappeared because I was(and still kinda am I think?) convinced I was actually a faker and didn’t have OSDD. Ever since then I’ve been living as a singlet, or at least under the assumption I’m a singlet, and have been kind of ignoring every symptom I have; but recently I’ve been getting more system community post on basically every social media and it’s making me rethink everything. Even when I was a sys faker or whatever it is I was I would go through phases of doubt and blamed all my symptoms on other issues, I’d straight up blame all the different voices in my head on psychosis and shit. I don’t know how to move on from here, I feel like I’m realizing I could potentially have not been a faker like I thought and just went back into a state of unawareness because it stressed me out so much to think abt and now I’m becoming aware again. If anyone has any advice for me I’d really appreciate it.

Sorry for the big submission/ramble.

We do this a lot actually, this blog is our own way of trying to remind ourselves the proof we have that we aren't faking

For us it's always just been "even when I'm trying my hardest, my symptoms never stop"

I can ignore them all I want, but it doesn't change that I get stuck dissociating for hours. Or that I lose so much time. Or that I act so differently constantly that people call me on it. Or that I hear others thinking in my head (even if I try to write it off as my own thoughts)

I get stuck with intense "this is not me" when I look in the mirror

When I try to ignore my symptoms I feel like I have no identity and that I'm playing pretend. When I stop ignoring it slowly I'm reminded it's because all those versions of me aren't really me, they're other alters who exist to help even when it doesn't feel like it

I might not be explaining this well, I'm really blurry and think we may have switched half way through and I don't really remember where we were going with this lol

But if you're questioning, research is your best friend. Outside of social media specifically. And also it's okay to be wrong! You're not gonna get everything right every single time, we have been so wrong about our own system so many times it could be a post on its own lmao

[multiplicity-positivity]

hello! do you perhaps have any advice, or know of any resources for situations where the collective cannot agree on important decisions? like, say, some have come to absolutely hate a friend and want to cut off contact, some are still attached and would be very sad and griefing if the friendship is lost, some is thinking of compromising where only the ones who want to talk to that friend would do so (but will not work bc the ones who hate this person would still be exposed to them anyway bc of shared memory, when the healthiest thing to do for them is walk away. which also cannot work bc it will devastate the ones who want to stay friends with said person)

Hiya! Woof, our system really struggles with this ourselves! >_< and I don’t think we’re gonna have an easy, straightforward answer for you! We’re really sorry!! T_T But we can still try to share some stuff that our own system is working on when it comes to making decisions, if that’s okay!

Okay, so first off, communicate! >w<

It’s really important to keep up an open dialogue and communicate with each other, especially when it comes to making big decisions! If someone wants to do something, ask them why! And do the same for the headmates who don’t want to do something! And like, try not to make fun of, belittle, or lash out at headmates for being vulnerable and sharing their reasons for having a certain opinion! Not every headmate will think the same way or want the same things! So just talking to each other and trying to get everyone’s opinions can at least help y’all all get on the same page :33

Next, maybe try taking a vote!

Um, if the vast majority of the headmates in your system want something, and only a couple don’t maybe it would be worth it to do it anyway! But at the same time, keep in mind the feelings of the headmates who aren’t getting what they want or whose votes are being overruled. Maybe try explaining to them why the system as a collective is going to be making this choice in particular, and why those who voted for it believe it is the best choice!

But the biggest thing (at least for our sys!) is…

Compromising!!!

Making compromises is essential for every system. Yeah it sucks that not all headmates can always make their own choices or get what they want all the time, but compromising is a great way to help everyone feel seen, acknowledged, and find a path that more or less works for everyone! >w<

Okay, so let’s try and use your example (but keep in mind we don’t know you personally or your history, so please don’t take our potential compromise as the only solution here!)

You brought up a good compromise by saying that only the headmates who want to be in touch with this friend could do so, though it would impact the headmate who doesn’t want to be in touch because of shared memories. To further this compromise, maybe you could help this headmate access tools for proper emotional regulation and learning how to sit with, accept, and come to terms with painful memories and negative emotions. Everyone will form bad memories or experience bad emotions at some point or another in their lives! >_<” But equipping this headmate with the tools to manage their emotions in healthy ways might make it easier to live with the memories of other headmates interacting with this friend.

It’s impossible for anyone to live their whole lives without ever having to make a compromise… but for systems, we headmates may find that learning how to compromise is way more important than it is for singlets!!

I’ll be honest, many members of our system love wikihow and we (Ralsei and Margo) have personally gotten a lot of use out of wikihow over the years! We’re including a link to a wikihow article on compromising - maybe y’all could find some use in it!

Also, if your system is in therapy, this would be a perfect subject to talk through with your therapist! They might have some good ideas or suggestions tailored to your system’s needs specifically, and could probably help y’all in ways that we won’t be able to!! >w<

Good luck to y’all though with figuring this out!! Gosh, we know that trying to make group decisions is not easy, especially when it comes to big things that headmates have opposing views on. We really hope though that y’all will be able to find ways to communicate and compromise in the future!! :33

[protectingtulpas]

I'm sorry if you already answered this, but what are the things that tulpas can and can't do?

Been sitting here trying to parse together what this means, but I think you're talking about a common stereotypes versus reality kinda thing??? If that's the case, I'll list some common things we can do and some common lies about us too.

👥 Things tulpas CAN do!!! 👥

- Think for ourselves separately from the host and deviate from their expectations of us! This is the main point of tulpamancy; we're our own people!

- Learn to front! It's not a natural skill, especially for anyone who's a singlet before the tulpamancy process, but it's one that can be built between the tulpa and the host/fronter(s) over time with trust and active practice.

- have different skillsets than the host! While we can totally piggyback off the bodily skills, it's actually pretty normal for us to hafta "re"-learn shit for ourselves that the host/fronters know cuz it's just not something our consciousness in particular is familiar with. On the flipside of that, if a tulpa learns a new skill in front, there's a good chance the host will be in the opposite possition, having to piggyback off of what the tulpa taught the body and "re"-learning for themselves.

- Project ourselves outward somatically; this is often called imposition, and involves training yourselves to psychosomatically experience sensations of a tulpa's presence "outside of" the body. This isn't usually seen as astral projection - more along the lines of how lots of otherkin and paraplegics experience "phantom limbs", sensations of what isn't "actually" there. Don't believe me that this is possible? Imagine for like ten seconds that your face is itching. Right in that exact spot, yeah- did you feel the itch, reach up to touch it to get rid of it? It's the same concept, really, just taken to the next level with a TON of practice. This isn't even something I've gotten into doing consistently yet.

🚫 Things tulpas CAN'T do!!! 🚫

- Steal front without the host's permission, especially in the early stages. In any tulpamancy system without dissociative disordered complications, a tulpa isn't gonna be able to front without the fronter's trust & cooperation, because switching is just as much about the fronter letting go as it is the tulpa switching in. I've stolen front from my host without direct, immediate permission, but I can only do that because my host puts a deep trust in me in the first place and knows I wouldn't do it for a bad reason. I have power becuz they let me have power. (Once again, this may vary depending on disordered system functions)

- Possess another body!! This one's IMPORTANT!!! TULPAS AREN'T BODY SNATCHERS. We are not entities that come from outside the body, and it's not possible for us to casually jump bodies willy-nilly and steal the lives of the other person or whatever, that's ridiculous. This isn't about the spiritual practice of system travel, either, because that's also shit based on trust and communication you can't just do casually. Tulpas aren't going to try and steal your body or the bodies of those you love. That's not how it fuckin works.

- Manifest physically!! Yet again this is a crock of bullshit. There is no way for a tulpa to physically manifest in this tangible reality- if I could I woulda done it already LOL! Tulpas cannot make physical bodies, that's some horror movie BS. So is anything else tying us to the powersets of stereotypical ghosts, demons, or other supernatural creatures.

Yeah I think that's a pretty solid list! Lemme know if I didn't cover something

[selvesdiscovery]

hi, i'm putting this on anon because people i know are highly anti-endo and i don't wanna out myself as being pro-endo. if you want to delete this feel free btw since i know fusion is a touchy subject for some systems

we're a system. we've been diagnosed with DID and told to see a specialist. said therapist who diagnosed us and referred us out is advising we peruse final fusion. we would do it... except the only reason why we would is because we fear nobody would ever like us the way we are (we're a very independent and private system. other than the host, all dating and such is done in system and kicking the host out of front is rare).

do you have any advice on that? i'm sure it eventually gets easier but i'm not sure how to make it easier. do you have any resources and advice on getting comfortable with being a system, and being comfortable sharing that with people (both other systems and singlets)?

thank you. just delete this if it's against the rules or if it makes you uncomfortable :) your comfort is important too

Hi! Thank you so much for reaching out.

This question isn't too sensitive or anything like that, and I see stuff like this a lot in the system world. Even I myself have dealt with similar issues.

What really helped me was 'coming out' to only a few really close friends. It gave us the space to talk about what goes on inside our head, and be honest about who we are.

Ofc, this isn't super helpful if you dont have really close friends. The second best thing I can suggest from personal experience is participating in the system community, either here on Tumblr or on Discord or wherever else, and working on being progressively more open there.

Those are both really vague and I'm sorry about that, the only thing we really personally needed to come out of our shell was trust, either already pre-existing or built from watching others live the same way as us.

Something else that really helps us personally when trying to get more comfortable with ourselves OUTSIDE of a social context, is encouraging the others to find their own way. That's why we made this blog actually. The best way to become comfortable both socially and personally with being a system is to foster a space for every headmate to live their most authentic life as fully as possible.

If you can, try inviting your alters to front with you, to try out new things that AREN'T related to trauma, therapy, or journalling (If you don't have a journal already, I suggest you look into that first and foremost). If you can't, you could always just wait until you cofront naturally to bring this up with them. Your headmates are people too, and the best way to make THEM stop feeling like less than or like something to be ashamed of is to help them grow.

As for your therapist, it sounds like she doesn't have your& best interest in mind. If you can, I'd look for someone who's comfortable with both fusion AND functional multiplicity as options, and can help you find the way you truly want to follow way better than I, some stranger on the internet, ever could.

Lastly, a fair disclaimer, DONT go about doing any of these things if you think you or your alters might not be entirely ready. If you happen to be newly discovered as a system, it might be good to take some time to learn about one another at a nice slow pace, first, before jumping into anything else. Be very careful, as much as selves discovery and branching out and growing as people is important to being happy how you are, it can be dangerous to some systems in certain situations.

I could understand though how these things may not be what your looking for, but since I don't have a ton of information on your personal experience I can't really get any more specific. If you're looking for more specific resources, I'd encourage personalized research, or going to a professional with your concerns, since the most I really have for this sort of thing is personal experience.

Either way, I wish you luck, and I genuinely hope you can find people who accept you as you are, and help you in your journey to grow. You& got this!

[granulesofsand]

Social Etiquette

Background

We realized and remembered we had DID when we were in our late teens. We had been out of the worst abuse for several years, which was already lucky for us, and never got to a point where a majority of us were aware of the others.

We were 13ish when the group flipped the kind of training we got, probably younger because of our period. It went from actively very bad to passively not too great. Lots of ideologies and pushing for achievement outside of the group. We even got to go to college.

We’re still scared that they’re coming back for us. We don’t give details about ourselves, our programming, or where we came from. I feel like we’re inauthentic because I can’t be fully transparent.

Respecting Others’ Stories

But I’m not mad that other kids got out sooner. I’m not suspicious that they found out about their systems or trauma. I’m mostly jealous, but I know it’s not appropriate to put those feelings into actions.

I don’t actually care if they’re making it up. I don’t care if their experiences are different than mine. I think it’s great that people are becoming comfortable speaking out, and I don’t care if there’s not a grain of truth behind it.

Respecting Your Story

I don’t stay in contact with people who disbelieve me. If someone in my life is overly critical because some people are lying, they can go be pissy somewhere else. I’m willing to change a lot about myself to improve, but I’m not going to shove my system down because someone else suspects it isn’t true.

I don’t think our community should be catering to critics, not in the way that we try to look more normal for singlets to take us seriously.

Boundaries

I’m not particularly offended if a Hard of Hearing alter identifies that way in a hearing body, or if trans alters don’t match their identity to their body. Good for them.

If children are aware of their system, good for them. If changing the way they type or speak feels comfy, good for them. If a system is holding onto delusions, good for them. If I can’t find harm in their choices, good for them.

Interacting with people relies on boundaries and communication. If you run into an issue, you hear each other out and decide if anyone can make changes or if it would be better to stop contact. Sometimes stopping contact comes first, and that’s also good boundaries for keeping safe.

Safety

If someone is causing harm, you are not required to help them grow or repair damages they cause. Sometimes you can move them through it, and that can feel good. You still don’t have to.

Similarly, it’s beneficial to listen to people who have a problem with something you are doing. You don’t have to entertain them. Learn which things you aren’t willing to compromise on and why.

I’m not willing to give up my trans identity. It matches our body, and having transition and community have made a positive impact on my life. I don’t know how much of that was effected by trauma, and that part I’m willing to talk about if I feel safe.

It’s a balance between having boundaries that feel safe and knowing when those boundaries need to change. It’s a lot, and it’s okay to take breaks or agree ahead of time how to interact with someone familiar. There are areas to rest and spend less energy on socializing, just not at the expense of someone who didn’t agree.

TL; DR: Talk to people and set boundaries to have safe interactions.

[daemians-n-daemons]

Hey there! This is a bit of a discussion question, and feel free to ignore as much of it as you want, we're just curious: what's your personal perspective on the overlap(s) between daemonism and plurality? How frequent is it for daemian/daemon to identify as systems, directly because of their daemonism, vs identifying instead as a singlet with two+ facets or aspects?

We're a system, and not a daemian/daemon pair, but we did a fair bit of reading up on daemonism when we were first trying to figure out what was going on with us, and we definitely found a lot to relate to. A lot of the folks we meet in more system/plural-oriented spaces tend to not have heard much if at all about daemonism before, though--especially in comparison to the few otherkin spaces we've been in, where daemon/daemians were much more common--and we always wondered about that. Cheers to both of you, from both of us!

This is actually a question I've been thinking about making a post on. And wasn't sure where to start. So thank you, that's perfect!

Daemonism can fall into the plurality umbrella, definitely, but not necessarily. Plurality is being more than one in your head, right? And that's where the tricky thing is with daemonism. You're two, but you're also one.

From what I've seen, most daemians don't consider themselves plural due to daemonism. They might see it as talking to themselves or having an imaginary friend, for example. Or they might see themselves as so intertwined, like two facets of a single individual, that they are not multiple in the first place.

But some daemians do see it as plurality. I know a daemon/human pair who view themselves as a median system, for example. For some daemians who have a more independent and autonomous daemon, or a daemon who fronts, they might relate more to plurality and view themselves as a system.

We personally started out thinking of us not as a system, because we had a narrow uninformed view of systems that was very like surface level stereotypical DID. Now we understand that, even though we are very much still a human and a daemon, we are also alters in a system that is bigger than just the two of us. But if it was just me and Aza, I don't think we would consider ourselves a system or that the term would be useful to us.

We have the same experience as you where in most plural spaces we don't see or hear much about daemonism, though in daemonism spaces you'll find a lot of talk about plurality and find many systems who are also daemians. I'm pretty sure my first exposure to systems was through daemonism. So even though most daemians (in my experience) don't see themselves as plural, the community in general is welcoming of systems of all kinds and about discussions of plurality.

Thanks for the ask and have a great weekend.

[anendoandfriendo]

10 and 25?

Context.

10. How did you discover your system? What was the process?

Well, you see, y'all, we had this on Twitter but the first sign we were plural was when we were sorely disappointed to hear that, no, most people do not get better at drawing without practice, in less than ten seconds. We were probably about ten, and did not draw often, so of course that cyndaquil was absolutely, positively shitty-looking on both iterations, but just so y'all know here —

We had weird obsessions of "what if X character was in this world?" questions that at first glance may have been just a weird Autistic asking weird fandom questions but it was very persistent; and also there's probably the fact we had a weirdly gravitational-repulsive relationship to characters like Kirbopher/Zetto from T.O.M.E (we were sorely disappointed to find that this character was "just one person" and had NO CLUE WHY once we did get around to watching it, and we were always kind of watching and hoping we would not any plurality tropes at the same time for these types of characters).

Anyways, it took until about university before everything sort of clicked. We'd heard the term "endogenic" in high school on a more inclusive blog, on our last year there. Keeping in mind we graduated early in high school that would have been between six and eight years ago.

Uhh, we think we played with the idea a little our second year at university but sysmeds and anti-endogenics specifically had us repress ourselves a lot (side note that this is the reason we will always stand by the fact that anti-endos are, and will always be, inherently ableist and maybe even fascists, even if we were to hypothetically turn around and realize tomorrow we were not endogenic).

It took at least another year? Maybe a half a year? before we realized, and the only reason we did is because, well...this is a little embarrassing to admit but we had come out as a system previously within our university's anime club a semester prior, but Kusuo projecting nemself into the table and very obviously announcing nyr presence as a soulbound was probably what got us to accept it more formally and wholly.

RIP now our offline friends who also follow us here know the reason we were trying our best to NOT be staring at the table after that Saiki K episode. 🤣☠️🤣☠️ Whoopsies.

25. What is something you wish singlets knew about plurality?

A lot of your problems would be solved if you asked yourselves "is this a way that I would treat them if they were a singlet???" and if the answer is "no" then you should either ask or shut the fuck up. One example we tend to think of is the way y'all use parts language to describe us, it's fucking insidious. Sure, your friend is "part of the group" but you don't treat your friend as an extension of your limb, that would be abusive.

More headmates and alters does not an unhealthy system make. Shut the fuck up.

On that note: multiplicity is not inherently disorderly. I will not elaborate on this one.

I am very specifically asking singlets to shut the fuck up and start supporting us when we choose to not drink the koolaid that sysmeds gave us and try to aim for healthy multiplicity instead of final fusion, and that is assuming we somehow ended up disordered in the first place. I am very specifically asking them to learn history on shit like the empowered multiplicity movement (web archive because...paranoid until we can move this thread to our tumblr) so they know sysmedicalists and anti-endogenics are lying. They are lying when they call it ableist. They are lying when they say calling them sysmeds or drawing comparisons between plural and queer communities is transmisic. The TPA may have legitimate reasons to be criticized, as @delgado-master put in the previous linked post, but it was also much worse for us as a community before they existed. Anti-endogenics, in particular, are liars and anyone who puts any caveat onto endogenics existing, weather they "believe in us" or not, is not someone who is going to give you accurate information.

Related to the above: learn what dogwhistles are, and learn how sysmeds and anti-endogenics use them. Saying you're anti-misinformation but then lying about your own marginalized community makes you the bigot, and it's especially telling when they have to thinly veil their hatred the way TERFs veil their hatred as "concern for women," and similar.

I want y'all to be able to arm yourselves so you can call these ableists' asses out when they pull the shit they do — and LOUDY. PUBLICLY. Endogenics, their supporters, and anti-ableists in general have enough emotional and intellectual labor going on. It would be nice to free some of that energy up to do something more effective, and I think that is where singlets can help.

There is a lot more I want to say, but I don't think I'm going to have time to list everything lmao. I would be here all day if not longer if I could keep going.

- Silva

[omnium-gatherums]

Have u ever made a server for you system to post in? (To communicate/vent/heal/figure out system stuff)!I’m making one and trying to think of what kinds of channels could be useful.. ideas? :0 !!

Uhhhhhh see the wording is throwing me for a loop because I understand what you're asking, but because of the weird way I like. Conceptualize these things in my own head, I don't know how to answer this question because no I don't use anything for "my system" to post in, but I AM a system, I have DID, we are alters, so yes we. We do use something for "my system" to post in and whatnot, but it's not really any different from just... A singlet journaling... We don't communicate with each other in the way a more overt and distinct system might, I'm just a person who switches between different alters sometimes and I just.. Do whatever.. I don't know how to explain lmfao

Our Tumblr blogs are a way for us to express ourselves individually. Our Tumblr blogs are also a way of organizing things like what things are associated with certain alters, though our Tumblr blogs encompass multiple alters rather than just one (like my blogs are more organized by "things that are associated with these kinds of alters"/"things that are associated with alters who might have these feelings/etc." if that makes sense, rather than "this Tumblr blog is for this specific alter only."

We use the website/app called Notion. I use it for a Lot of things - creativity purposes, archiving things, journaling, venting, writing out system information if/when I find out stuff, etc

I'm not sure what kinds of channels you'd want in your server, but I have my journals separated by year and month for each journal entries

I have a separate 'health' journal where I keep a list of things like when my period starts and ends, what medications I take, and other health-related things.

And then my system list where I have alters listed out and add any information to them if and when I find out information.

And the rest is, like. Random half-finished projects that will never be finished; saved links; and other stuff pertaining to trauma and random other things.

[hiiragi7]

Honestly yeah I relate a lot to this. Especially with feeling recreated post-fusion; I've talked about it on another post, but to give a summary, I reached a point where the origins of every single part of my system was no longer traumagenic, and the origin of the system became fusion, itself. It felt unfair and inaccurate to call myself traumagenic after that point, because it felt like denying a huge aspect of my system and our journey. My system was no longer the result of trauma, but rather of self-love.

My parts are expressions of me, they are differing perspectives and thoughts and feelings and so much more. They (I) are not who we were in the past, though they are (I am) made up of past experiences. They make up who I am, and together we are a community of one person. It's an active choice we make, to both navigate the world as one and to engage with ourselves as several when we like to. It's fluid, it's fun, it's incredibly loving and passionate. I wouldn't trade this experience for anything.

I identify as endogenic primarily because of my created headmate, Fennel, who I chose to create a good while after final fusion (fully fused in January, created her in October). I used various paromancy techniques and guides to do so.

The fully fused experience certainly in my experience is often different from being a singlet, and I often feel misunderstood when people talk about final fusion as "becoming a singlet". Maybe for some folks it is, for me it isn't - because my brain is wired differently and I grew up multiple. I could be one person, sure, but for me, I feel weird when people say that's the same as me "choosing to become a singlet" because it feels like erasing my life up until this point and the work to get here. I have lived a multiple life, not a singlet life, and my experiences are different.

Anyway, DID recovery is often pretty unpredictable. You can kind of try to guess where you'll end up, but sometimes it turns out totally differently than expected. If you'd asked me some years ago, I would've told you I was very much interested in functional multiplicity if I went down any recovery path at all (I honestly wasn't convinced I would recover) and would never consider final fusion... much less fully fusing and then practicing paromancy. Life is weird, systemhood and DID is weird.

At the very least, I'm pretty comfortable with where I'm at with my system, and I always love talking about it.

There's something about an entire system changing little by little until it can be argued to be a completely different system with entirely different origins... It makes me think...

Got a little sidetracked. Might be the System of Theseus

The plural community has a major problem with how it treats final fusion and systems who are fully fused.

If you ever wonder why you don't meet many fully fused systems in the community, part of it is because we are actively pushed out of the community.

People have been really shitty towards me ever since I hit final fusion in January. My friends who are fully fused have also experienced similar.

I feel like I can't talk about my experiences at all in a lot of spaces. When I do, I feel like I have to put in extra effort to word myself carefully, and even then it doesn't really help. It doesn't matter how much I say "everyone's experiences are different" or "this is how it is for me personally", people act weird towards me just because I am fully fused. I can't just talk about my experiences with my system like everyone else and it's really draining and frustrating.

People assume that because I am fully fused I will be pushy about fusion or even force fusion onto other systems. People say they are intimidated by me and don't want to talk to me because I am fully fused. People tell me about how horrible they think fusion is and how it's murder. People say they feel bad for fused systems because they think all fused systems are tricked into fusion and about how parts language is dehumanizing and abuse. People say I must hate myself or hate being a system because I chose final fusion. People say they don't believe in final fusion existing at all and that it's unhealthy to believe in it, that fused systems are just systems pretending to be singlets, and that we just need to deal with our internalized ableism and accept we're plural.

People even assume I'm "sysmed" because I am fully fused and use parts language. I have been vocally pro-endo the entire time I've been in system spaces. Hell, I myself am endogenic.

My very belonging in the plural community is constantly in question. I have witnessed numerous debates over the years about whether fully fused systems should be allowed in the community at all, or be allowed to talk about system experiences... because we "chose to be singlets". I've even seen people suggest that we are "appropriating" systemhood by talking about it because we are "no longer systems and have no right to talk about what being a system is like".

"No singlets should be allowed to talk about system experiences or be allowed in system communities, and that includes fully fused individuals" was and still is a major stance here on tumblr, as well as several discord servers I've been in.

I'm constantly expected to censor or completely not talk about my experiences at all because I am fully fused. Final fusion is on the blacklist for a lot of plural servers, and on tumblr a lot of folks get asked to trigger warn anything mentioning final fusion. This isn't something that really happens for any other form of DID recovery. This is specifically targeted at final fusion.

Yes, I understand that there are systems who are pressured to fuse and that it may be a triggering topic for these systems; at the same time, the plural community fosters a lot of fear and shame around final fusion by barring any talk of it and framing it as a negative thing, and it is rarely taken into consideration how triggering it is for many fully fused systems like myself to not be allowed to speak about our experiences and be treated like our existence needs to be hidden and censored, especially when we constantly see others talking very poorly of us and our experiences on top of that.

I get told I'm wrong about my own experiences as a fully fused system or about my thoughts on functional multiplicity and final fusion by systems who are neither fully fused nor functionally multiple, many of whom have never even spoken to a system who is or read about our experiences at all. People in the community are extremely black-and-white about it, and when I talk about how from my experience functional multiplicity and final fusion aren't actually a strict binary, people are very quick to tell me about how they're completely different experiences when they haven't even experienced it or even really know anything about it.

There's so much misinformation in the community about final fusion and it really fucking sucks.

It's so painful hearing my fully fused friends talk about how many of them have been chased out of the community or know folks who have been.

Plural community, be better for fused systems.

[circular-bircular]

how... how did saying "i'm not an individual, i'm a part of one singular whole" make you guys feel more individual? genuinely do not understand. parts language implies you're not you, you're just shards of a broken whole, that every system member is not a full person and that collectively they add up to one individual, the "singlet-you-were-meant-to-be" or whatever

I would love to talk more about this!!! It’s one of my favorite parts of how we function now tbh. Sorry for the rant ahead, I’ve wanted to talk about this for so long, and this is apparently the time.

Before we used parts language, we were of the idea that Rice was the “original alter.” We were taught that by the online communities we were in, and she was forced into that role. That meant, we all felt like figments of her imagination. Which. Sucked ass.

We fought hard to be seen as our own selves. We dressed differently, we dropped our voice when male alters were out to an excessive degree (to the point of damaging our voice often). Curtis struggled so much with trying not to smoke, because at least smoking would prove he was himself, because Rice has never wanted to smoke. Trying to make ourselves be people hurt us a lot.

Eventually, we finally moved away from the “core” idea, which was gross anyways. But even seeing ourselves as our own people, we never felt like we could be. I’m my own person - but I want top surgery. If I was really my own person, I would be able to get top surgery. But I’m not! I’m stuck here with these assholes like Sierra and Debbie, and they both want these tits. So I have to fight to be myself, and the fight was with them. I fucking hated every single day, because I was fighting with someone who couldn’t even hear me half the time, because I was the one fronting. How useless right?

And then, we learned about parts language. It sounded like bullshit, to be honest. “We’re all our own person, we don’t want to be parts of a whole.” But… that’s how DID works. It’s what made the most sense. DID works out that you (as a singular identity as a singular child) are traumatized to the point of putting the pieces of yourself into multiple identities. Those dissociative identities are part of that whole.

When we first started thinking of ourselves as parts, we saw it as that “broken-parts-of-one-whole-who-we-are-meant-to-be” thing too, and that pissed us off. But… we started looking at it through the lens of functional multiplicity instead. We are who we’re supposed to be right now - because we aren’t supposed to be anything except what we want to be.

Now? Now I’m a person who wants top surgery. But because I am part of one whole, I can recognize that collectively, we don’t want that. Collectively, I have Sierra, Debra, Rice, Sie, Octavian, Ve, Avery, and now a new split yesterday who all want to keep our chest. Even Curtis feels something about it. That’s 7.5 out of 13 who want to keep our chest (for the most part - Octavian and Rice sometimes don’t like it). I can recognize that, as a part of Circ (our name for the collective system), I want my chest off because we are collectively queer, but maybe we aren’t fully a trans man like I am. Does that mean I’m not a trans man suddenly? Fuck no!!! I still exist!

But now, my voice matters. Before, I was constantly fighting to be my own person. I didn’t WANT what the others wanted. And I was fighting them - now? Now I’m fighting with them. Now I can have a conversation about my desires, and they understand my pain. Before, Debra didn’t understand my desire to get rid of my chest, because she was trying to make the body hers. She was her own person and was trying to live like it. Now? Now she understands that, as part of this collective, I am part of her. Deep down, there was a part of her that wanted to be a man. That part was so, so strong, it split into me - the depressed closeted trauma holder who she used to see as pathetic, because all she could see was how much better she was.

If I’m her, and she’s me, and we’re part of this whole? How could we ever hate each other? (We’re dating now.)

By using parts language, I got listened to. I didn’t have to fight to be me. None of us did! And… that led to us being able to use our energy to actually exist. Rather than putting all of his energy into sexual jokes and dropping his voice, Curtis really found a love for voice acting. Does it matter that some of us share that interest? Not anymore! Makes perfect sense! Before, he would get so twisted up because “but if Wade likes this too, that means I’m not my own person.” Now he can recognize that, not only would multiple parts of a whole clearly like some of the same things, but. Different people can also like the same things!!! So - we are no longer having to fight to be our own people.

Aaa sorry I’m just gushing over parts language now. I gotta make dinner but:

TL;DR: We tried out core theory and it hurt us irrevocably. We tried “we’re all separate people” and had to fight, hard, to try and be individuals. It was only once we called ourselves parts of one whole that we could stop fighting each other, which gave us the chance to grow into our own interests, and say “fuck you” to doubts we had about being our own people.

[thewasteland]

hope you dont mind me sending in this ask!!

a lot of syscourse just reminds me of transmedicalism- if you dont suffer, you arent really a part of that community; if you are "cringe" you dont deserve support or acceptance; if you are open about your experience and love yourself, you make the community look bad.

so much of it is bullshit. we all have different experiences, and all experience plurality in different ways. we should be able to be ourselves openly and unabashedly and not be afraid of people finding out about the system. people who already hate systems arent gonna hate them any less bc you suck up to them lmaoo.

support eachother and love eachother, thats all i can say

Don't mind at all! love getting asks, although my response might disappoint. We really are of many different minds about the issue. We can all agree that the way things are now are toxic, but other than that it's all different opinions, so we mostly try to stay out of it to avoid pissing off everyone at once lol.

The issue with the "sysmed" thing tho is that like, I've never met a trans person who experiences their transness as a mental illness. Their dysphoria, maybe, but not their gender identity itself. Trans people being seen as mentally ill, or mentally ill people's transness being seen as a symptom of their mental illness, has been a stigma they've been trying to fight for a long time. I'm cis but I have witnessed it and it's so shitty. But DID/OSDD *is* considered a disorder by those who have it. So that's where the metaphor breaks down for me and just seems kind of shitty and backhanded to trans people, and/or like it's ignoring the fact that DID/OSDD are real disorders.

As far as the validity of endogenic systems, that's not something we care to discuss. It's literally their own fucking business. I don't know what I would hope to gain from running around calling people a liar on the internet.

Also the whole like "but what if endogenic systems are really just DID/OSDD systems who don't remember there trauma!!! We have to educate them!!1! By forcing them to face the reality that they were traumatized before they're ready!! Cause that's what's healthy!!"

Even if a system can remember their trauma, not everyone wants to say that their trauma created their system. Systems can bring a lot of help and joy, they are like your family, your blood, and saying that they were formed because of trauma just feels wrong. Or maybe you don't want to justify your existence with a reason at all. I don't think we should be forcing people into a box they don't want to be in.

*hits blunt* just let people live, man.

But on the other hand, I don't know if I really feel like I have much in common with endogenics. If they're not experiencing their system as part of a trauma disorder, I really can't imagine what that's even like. We are so shaped by trauma, every little piece of us, to the point that it's devastating at times. It feels like we don't have an identity outside of it. Having alters can be frightening and heartbreaking at times. And overall I just feel like I'd have more in common with a singlet trauma survivor than I would an endogenic system. So we generally stay in DID/OSDD spaces, and would appreciate it if endos would stay out of those, no hate it's literally just not for you, I want to hear about other people's experiences I can learn from and relate to, and get support for my disorder you know.

Jesus this got long but anyway this kind of turned into us internally debating and switching and ranting so sorry if I derailed at all. Anyway that's about as cohesive/coherent as we will ever be able to get our thoughts on syscourse.

Big agree to the second paragraph, and yes, supporting each other is the only way to go tbh.

[multiplicity-positivity]

not sure if this is the right place for this, but. i’m a questioning traumagenic system and have been doing plenty of research since october 2022. at first i had weak, but fairly clear communication with the two alters i knew of, they were able to front, and i could feel their presence in headspace, but the discovery sparked a huge spiral and basically shut down communication entirely. i don’t feel anyone, and the communication i do get is nonsensical, distorted, or just plain gives me a headache to think about. it’s been like that for the majority of the time now. the whole thing has sparked a massive amount of self doubt, wondering if it was just some sort of weird episode or whether i actually am plural.

my plural friends have repeatedly reassured me that they are pretty certain i’m a system. i’ve had people tell me they thought i was a system before i even mentioned it to them. i feel gross, like i’ve somehow misled my friends, even strangers into thinking i’m something i’m not. i’m unmotivated to pursue strengthening communication, even though i want to, because it feels like a waste of time if i really am misinterpreting myself. this is kind of a lot, but do you have any kind of advice or positivity to give in this sort of situation? ;;

hey. so coming to the realization that you could be plural is huge, and it makes sense that learning about something like that could disrupt previous communication, cause self doubt, and make you question things that you had perhaps at first taken for granted.

if it’s any consolation, our system also had a bit of a downward spiral after our “syscovery.” our host was incredibly overwhelmed at the concept, and spent a lot of time denying/dismissing the rest of us, and our previous “background communication” got muddled and hazy for a while. i’m not sure how normal this is for newly discovered systems, but it certainly happened to us.

in our system, we’ve been able to more or less stabilize through a combination of things, like regular therapy, learning new coping skills, practicing self compassion, and building internal communication. our host can no longer deny the rest of us since we are quite vocal, and our support team continues to remind those of us who doubt that we are indeed a system.

sometimes taking a step back is necessary. if you’re spending too much time worrying and focusing on whether or not you’re a system, you may exhaust yourself, get burnt out, or strain yourself and your potential system. if you find that you can’t communicate no matter how hard you try, maybe it’s best to just stop trying for a while. take a break and try to focus on things that help you relax and feel better. maybe after a while an alter will reach out to you. or maybe after a rest you’ll be feeling more refreshed and ready to try again. taking care of yourself is a very important part of taking care of your system!

we ourselves cannot confirm or deny that you’re a system or part of one. but attempting internal communication is not a waste of time, even if it turns out you’re not a system! even singlets can benefit from connecting with different aspects of themselves, shifting the tone of their inner voice to be more positive and compassionate, or otherwise focusing on improving their internal monologue as a means of growth and self-discovery. so even if it turns out that you’re not a system, you wouldn’t have been wasting your time or misleading anyone. it’s okay to question, and it’s okay to be wrong or mistaken! these things are all part of being human - or nonhuman if you’re therian, like me ;)

last thing, we probably wouldn’t rely too much on what our friends think if we were you. as systems, we may get excited at the possibility of our friend also being plural and (perhaps without meaning to) push them to come to one conclusion or another before they’re ready. your friends telling you that you’re a system should not be a clear indicator that you are one. only you can determine at the end of the day whether or not you’re plural. we’re not saying this to disuade you from learning about plurality, or to convince you that your friends don’t have your best interests at heart! we’re just saying that sometimes people can get excited and caught up in things, which can lead others to the wrong conclusions.

so trust yourself, go slow, and try not to stress too much about it! hopefully you’ll be able to learn more about yourself with time. and we’re always here and happy to help if you have any more questions in the future!

🐢 kip

[evilneo]

Bruh I was looking at those answers and those reblogs hit me like a freight train HELLO???

Also hey uh, I’ve tried not to interact on too many posts bc I see you has a friend but I’m still struggling with system terms and all of that.

I didn’t “create” our system, Medic (our first member) started interacting out of the blue and it was pretty clear to us that it wasn’t imagination. While we don’t think we have any kind of trauma or at least not childhood trauma, one of our parents brought up a rather good point—we have other mental illnesses that very well could be presenting at this age; so while our origin is unknown, it’s certainly possibly that it could have come from a source related to delusions.

I am NOT, however, saying that makes a system any less valid. You’re all real and very much more than that! I’m only citing my own systems experience with grappling with our headspace. I hope I’m explaining this all right, I just woke up and I’m betting my phrasing is pretty awful ough.

Anyways I love u neo!!! Fuck the transabled shit I don’t know much about it but from what I can see from that reblog its like. Ppl fetishizing being disabled wtf? There’s a fine line between respecting ppl with disabilities and mental illnesses and trying to become disabled because you “think it’s cool”—👁👁

If you’d like me to clarify anything, please let me know. I’m aware I might have misrepresented ourselves and I hope that this makes sense—

I am. gonna need for a lot to be clarified here actually?

wdym a source related to delusions. system shit and delusion shit are very very different. system alters are in no way delusions and in fact the DID/OSDD community have worked VERY hard to separate the 2 things in singlets minds. im not a delusion.

childhood trauma is needed for systems, it might not be remembered and it might not be "typical" trauma* but it still needs to be there to be a system

*any type of trauma is trauma enough. abuse, medical trauma, growing up with untreated mental illnesses etc etc

we're just confused is all?

[system-of-a-feather]

How do you feel about endos? Just curious.

Oookay, Riku will probably never get around to this, and while Riku wants to “get all the aspects” addressed in a “diplomatic” manner because it is a “complex and multifaceted discussion”, but they are over thinking this and will literally never do it so I’ll go with the really rough outline that they started and fill it in with what I know of our system.

Sorry if I sound really inflammatory, I’m not a diplomatic person lel 

Also, for comedy sake, I am going to maintain everything Riku kept in this outline and try my best to fill it out. A lot of this I am completely lost on so, there will be moments where I am clearly confused lel

I may get some of our opinions “wrong” because I’m kind of taking a guess from my access of the brain, so I apologize if Riku looks at any asks or reblogs we might get from this and goes WHY DID ADERIS SAY THAT?! I’m trying my best

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Overall TLDR Opinion: So as a system, we don’t like to be too involved in it publicly. Its a multilayered complex topic with too much nuance for it to be worth advocating for or against, and with how large of a cultural phenomenon it is, it isn’t going to change with us. We don’t think it is likely that DID can be formed without trauma, but we also don’t write it off fully. We strongly however do not like “intentional” systems and find it really offensive and gross. With that being said, we also recognize issues in being too forward about that, so we don’t bother with it much.

More details below the keep reading.

-Aderis (Local Discourse Alter)

Can I follow if…

Yes. We really don’t limit or care who is following us. If you identify as an endogenic, singlet, fictionkin, a roll of toothpaste, we really don’t mind or care. I mean, we’d prefer if transphobes and homophobes and all those gross things weren’t following us because honestly - G r o s s - but also like, whatever.

I guess the only people we don’t want following are people that are actively going to use our posts to hurt others or to fetishize trauma or anything? I don’t think we have much worry for that but yeah nah. If you are endogenic or whatever, you can still follow. Just know that our writing isn’t written for an endogenic crowd.

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Stages of Understanding DID and Endogenic Spaces

I don’t FUCKING know what Riku meant this. What the FUCK is “stages of understanding DID”? I’ve been sitting here for like... five minutes trying to understand what that meant, but I *think* they were trying to get at the idea of how people come to terms with DID.

If that is the case, then one reasons we don’t want to bash or actively advocate against endogenics is that identifying as an endogenic / endogenic-parallel concepts or finding concepts put out there by endogenics is kind of a stage / easier way to accept the situation since it doesn’t carry to baggage of having to accept that you were abused / mistreated. 

It isn’t necessarily the healthiest and there is a large concern of getting misinformation and feeding the denial or learning really bad coping mechanisms through those environments, so we don’t think it is a **good** purpose or environment to be in, but the last thing we’d want is to force people who are still struggling to understand their mental state and come to terms with the past that they *have* to admit that they were really fucked up and hurt by things that had happened in the past.

We have a lot of mixed feelings and don’t have a firm stance on if that role in coming to terms with DID is good or not so we really don’t know there or have firm opinions. Since we don’t have firm opinions, we default to “we don’t want to rush / control / dictate what other people with DID are doing in their path of healing and we don’t want to rush people’s healing journey with DID” so we refrain from involving or telling people one thing or the next.

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Intentional Systems / Tulpamancy Systems

We think they are really offensive and problematic. We instantaneously unfollow and block systems that claim to be intentional, and we tend to unfollow people who post about intentional systems. That is the part of the endogenic community we have very little patience for.

We do know there are still probably actual DID / OSDD systems out there that use those terms to write off their condition similar to endogenics mentioned above, but the amount of damage these ones do and the just straight up often horrible thoughts and opinions about DID that they have outweighs our opinion on not budding our head where it doesn’t belong.

Don’t fetishize / make our disorder a fun thing.

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Median Systems

Uhh.... I think Riku was going to mention something about how we found out that some people have multiple people in their head through median systems and came to understand that as ourselves and learned beyond that???

I don’t really know what stands out in specific about Median Systems though. I think there might be an opinion somewhere about BPD and Median systems? But generally we also put this in the same categroy as “stages of understanding DID”. Maybe if Riku comes around they can explain if they even know.

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Can you have a system without trauma?

Oooookaaay, this is one Riku would be 10000% better at answering because they have a lot of nerd stuff about this about science and psychology and statistics and research and shit. I’m not that savvy in those topics though? So I guess I’ll give you a quick rundown from the gist.

We don’t think that it is likely that you can have a system - a true dissociative system with dissociated parts - without trauma. That though comes with the key word “likely”. We are very much open to the possibility / idea that other methods could form dissociated parts and are actually a bit keen into maybe some day doing research on it. Science and research has backed that DID is formed due to disorganized attachment to caregivers and repeated trauma at a young age, but DID is very under researched, psychology is a soft science, and very little about the conscious, identity, and dissociation is actually firmly known.

Until the exact neurological structure / reasoning / process to how DID forms and how it differs from those that don’t have it, we really hesitate to put it in any box because that’s really not how mental health works. It might be that the majority of cases are due to trauma, but theoretically other disorders can cause pretty dissociation and if said disorders occurred at a young enough age, then theoretically maybe something like that could happen. There is somewhere in this brain a tab on ADHD or something, but I can’t go into that cause I really wouldn’t do it a service.

The really condensed version is we don’t think so with our current understanding and readings, but we don’t think it is 100% certain and there is a very reasonable possibility that there is something out there, a different path way that can cause the DID we know - or a different condition that looks and appears similar to DID but is fundamentally different.

You rarely ever *know* anything in psych, especially with something so abstract of a disorder with little research on it such as DID and how consciousness / states of consciousness work in the brain to really be claiming anything so certainly.

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Should endogenics be considered DID?

I don’t care?? Honestly, our system is generally of the consensus that until evidence comes to show that it is possible AND the same disorder, then no. And even then, I think the question Riku meant was “should endogenics and DID be related / equated / in the same space” which is a strong no.

Even if endogenics are real and are possible, the amount of which trauma plays into what we currently know as DID is so ridiculous that there is honestly little overlap other than the “same hat” of having multiple parts in a body. So much of DID is much more about “spicy” C-PTSD with the exclusive DLC of thick dissociative barriers. A lot of our experience is centered around navigating trauma and helping parts grow beyond the trauma that seeded their existence and I really don’t know how much of that would be able to be properly understood and shared with someone who has NO trauma? I also feel as though inherently the dynamics between parts would HAVE to be extremely different without trauma because all of the “roles” in our system are fundamentally absed on how we are because of our trauma and how we cope and manage things.

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Endogenics on Social Media / Practically Speaking?

We leave them alone for the most part. If they aren’t being toxic or spreading misinformation, its really not our deal to care about much - and even then it really isn’t. We have a lot of other things in our life to care about and we really don’t have the time or energy to get worked up, heated, stressed, or anything because we see someone claiming to have parts without trauma. 

I say let people be people and do things as people do so long as they aren’t harming anyone. We disagree and are technically “sysmeds” or whatever, but like, its not that huge of a thing.

Anyways, that’s all.