#Final Fantasy 7 remake trilogy

[shwoo]

So in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth there's a room in the Shinra manor with a bunch of stuff scribbled on the walls, apparently by Vincent. It looks about how you'd expect in-game, but the texture for it in the game files is white on black and completely horizontal. It makes sense to do it that way, but it also makes it look like he's trialling names for his death metal band. I love it.

He also apparently did a lovingly detailed portrait of Hojo and then crossed it out?

Why did he do this. Why is Lucrecia's face so much less detailed than Hojo's. Did he run out of steam after drawing her ponytail.

[oveliagirlhaditright]

Cait Sith's fortune came true: because throughout the entire game, Cloud was trying to find Sephiroth--which he did in the end--but at the cost of losing Aerith.

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"Along the road ahead lies something you need. However--in order to claim it, you must lose something that is dear to you."

Final Fantasy VII came out before Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, of course. And this Chain of Memories moment somewhat parallels the above FFVII one, with Sora getting a bizarre "prophecy," that somewhat comes true, about losing someone dear to you in some way.

However, Marluxia is lying when he tells Sora that there's something he needs in Castle Oblivion. He's assuming Sora will think Riku and King Mickey are there (the "something he needs") and fall into his trap--which he does--though, ironically, Riku and the King do eventually end up in the castle, but Sora never meets them there, actually. But he does have interactions with the Riku Replica that Vexen creates. But Marluxia had no idea that that would happen, either. But Marluxia did know that in stepping foot into the castle, Sora would lose memories of the person important to him--Kairi--which was part of the Organization's plan: and so Sora does forget Kairi for a time, as Naminé begins replacing her in his memories:(

[shwoo]

Reeve. Final Fantasy VII: Reeve. It's his game now.

With the voice recordings underway, what do y’all think part 3 of the FF7 Remake trilogy will be called???

[theghostavocadoe]

"Zack Fair is haunting the narrative-" No. Genesis is haunting the narrative.

Despite having literally no appearances since CCR, we're still anticipating Genesis' appearance every day.

Every Loveless poster, every book store, every black feather, every mention of SOLDIER's past makes us instinctively go "Genesis?" without any direct callbacks. Every mention of Sephiroth's "old friends" has us on the edge of our seats.

Haunting the narrative isn't about being constantly brought up despite being dead; haunting the narrative is about how everyone still thinks of him despite there being radio silence from his end.

We all knew Zack was gonna appear again in remake/rebirth. We expected it. He's too important to ignore. But Genesis is still being dangled just out of reach, and the moment even his goddamn SHOE appears on screen, you know there's going to be an apocalyptic event in the FF7 fandom.

Nothing shall forestall his return.

[isamenot]

What I would wish the third title was named…

So, before they start to (potentially) drop the official subtitle for part three, I just want to quickly throw my personal favourite out there. (Though, I don’t think that this will actually be the real title.)

Please be aware, that there might be spoilers up ahead for those who do not know the original game.

Final Fantasy VII Regained.

What doesn’t fit the bill about it?

Mainly, the outward appearance – though no one knows for sure if there actually is an outwards appearance system or if it’s just a mere coincidence for the two titles.

As other players have already stated, there are some characteristics the words “Remake” and “Rebirth” share:

1) Both words are nouns.

2) Both words start with the prefix “re-“

3) Both words consist of two syllables in English or are written with four characters in katanaka.

“Regained” doesn’t fit in with characteristic number 1 as it is not a noun and not with characteristic number 3 as it would be written with in katanaka with five characters.

(But as the word “reunion” seems to have been out as a title candidate as well and this counts more than two syllables and would be written with five katanaka characters, it is rather unsure how much point three actually counts.)

Arguments in favour of “Regained”

1) The meaning. It is pretty similar to “Reclaim” which has already been discussed by other players.

But, reclaim has an active connotation, while regained could be understood as either active or passive. And it ties in with most characters:

Cloud – like regaining consciousness, will regain his real self

Tifa – regaining her childhood friend

Barret – regaining his “home”/reputation in North Corel

Red – regaining his family/tribe

Yuffie – regaining her pride of her family/Wutai

Cid – regaining his dream (of travelling to space)

Vincent – regaining his peace of mind/honour

Cait Sith/Reeve – this is a bit tricky, but it could be regaining his responsibility (as he was as a Shinra manager always on the more on the oppressed/powerless side) or maybe purpose

Aerith & Zack – highly depends on how this will be played and how much their roles will be diverted from the original

Sephiroth – also depends on what we will be shown or how many possible “endings”/worlds will be shown; could be regaining his “birth right” or regaining his humanity

2) Further levels

- “Final Fantasy VII Regained” could also apply line up with the concept of “when worlds unite”, returning back to the original world/game

- “Final Fantasy VII Regained” might reference to John Milton’s biblical poem “Paradise Regained”.

Since the original game, there have been theories analysing a connection between the game (especially Sephiroth & Jenova) and religious/spiritual/biblical contexts.

Furthermore, there is also the search for the “Promised Land”. Though strictly speaking, the Promised Land is not completely identical with Paradise; but one could argue that the Promised Land is something like Paradise on Earth.

In this regard, it would also tie in with the slightly more spiritual ring of “Rebirth”.

[divan-daikon]

gays im making an impulsive decision to make a ff7 scrapbook bc it had evolved from hyperfixation to special interest

[shwoo]

In her first appearance in Japanese she refers to him as "Professor Chadley" to really make the analogy clear.

Every other time, she calls him "master" (the English word), which I'm pretty sure doesn't necessarily have the connotations it would when used in English, and just means he's a master scientist or something.

She likes and admires and is not afraid of him.

Cannot believe more people aren't talking about Chadley and MAI. Local robot has spent his entire life shackled to the whims of a truly despicable man and finally breaks free and creates his own freewill and you know the first thing he does? Make another person. And she's bright and she's full of curiosity and she loves the world and she critically. Critically. Does things because she wants to. Chadley is the seventh iteration and the only one who got out. His creator can put him in pain at any time by torturing one of his precursors. He is not free. But the first thing he did upon leaving home was bring to life someone who was.

[altocat]

When's the new chapterrr

Should probably be the week after next. They said mid-January.

I swear to god if they update OG instead to coincide with Yuffie being added I'm going to break something.

[autistichalsin]

The fact that there is literally a recording of Dave saying the "in my name" line makes me wish so bad we could have had Origin Halsin. It wouldn't even have been that hard to change his plot around.

Just like how, if you do an Origin run, you can just ignore the normal recruitment spot, you'd have a different motivation for entering the goblin pens when playing. Instead of "Halsin and Aradin went off, he got captured by gobbos, please find him" you get "you were captured by goblins and, on orders of Ketheric Thorm, brought to Moonrise where you were tadpoled and then sent away on a Nautiloid that later crashed. You must now return to the goblin camp to stop them from attacking your Grove."

As for why Ketheric would have had Halsin tadpoled, that too would have been simple: he sent the Shadow Druids to target the Emerald Grove precisely because he remembered, 100 years ago, what a formidable fighting force the Druids were. It would not be a stretch to imagine that instead of sending them (or along with sending them), he decided to have their leader tadpoled and turned into a mouthpiece for his cause. Those who would blindly follow Halsin would follow, while those who would have resisted would have stayed under Kagha's leadership and performed the Rite of Thorns. But then the Nautiloid crashed and Halsin retained his free will thanks to the artifact.

Like c'mon, it would require next to NOTHING changing story-wise. You could even use the same "the tadpole did it" excuse Gale and Wyll have to explain why an Archdruid is now level 1. The literal only thing that would have to change is the portal, but even that could be tweaked so that you fight a similar hoard of enemies while you go looking for Thaniel.

(Also, on a shallow note, it would mean I'd get to enjoy seeing Halsin get pegged by Karlach if I chose.)

Maybe in 10-15 years we'll get a remaster/anniversary edition which will have Origin Halsin? *Wistful sigh* I mean, if Square Enix can make an entire trilogy of just remakes of Final Fantasy 7...

[shwoo]

That bit is great because it implies that Chadley has mind-reading powers that he only ever uses to try to impress Cloud. And that maybe Barrett could read Cloud's mind as well, if he wanted to.

The Japanese is a little clearer that he's just reading Cloud's expression, though. It's something like

Detecting bewilderment that says "What are you doing someplace like this?" (どうしておまえがこんなところに？　という　困惑を検知) I am a cyborg manufactured by Hojo, you know. (ボクは　宝条によって造られたサイボーグですよ) It's as simple as reading your emotions. (クラウドさんの感情を読み取ることぐら���簡単です)

he’s my son and I love him

[shwoo]

Writing this Final Fantasy 7 fanfic is kind of a weird experience, because I try to stick to the tone of the original work, and Final Fantasy 7 can get darker in tone than what I'm used to. Do I warn for "Canon Typical Hojo"???

Actually, I notice that there's quite a few Final Fantasy 7 stories on AO3 tagged with "Content Warning: Hojo", or "Hojo Being Hojo", so I guess I do? Also, "Bad Dad Hojo", which is relevant since the story is about Chadley. Hojo is not winning any father of the year awards in that one scene in Rebirth where he acknowledges Chadley's existence. Enslaving your kid to work in your evil science lab is also not great parenting.

I don't normally dislike fictional characters, but I think I do dislike Hojo. I don't really... want to look at him. Is this one of those "confront characters" I keep hearing about? It was hard to even analyse him so his actions would make sense in the story. I think he's someone who once experienced not being the smartest person in the room, and made it his life's mission to make sure that never happened again.

This story is also making me like MAI, after being indifferent to her for a while. I'm going with Chadley accidentally creating a person while trying to create an AI assistant, with neither of them having realised it yet. That gives them an interesting dynamic! At least to me.

I just hope I have the energy to edit this story into making sense, so I can finish it. And also to keep playing the original game up to when this story is set. The canon story stuff is happening in the background, and I know roughly what happens, but I really should play through it as well.

[satoshi-mochida]

Some games that are currently stuck on older consoles that I hope get rereleased in some way, Part 2:

Part 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

Summon Night series

.hack IMOQ(I somehow forgot about these for the first post)

Xenosaga series(another obvious one I forgot)

Older Fire Emblem games that haven't been ported/remade yet.

Tony Hawk's Underground/Underground 2

Xenoblade Chronicles X

SSX Tricky/SSX 3

Transformers: War for Cybertron/Transformers: Fall of Cybertron

Lufia series

Thousand Arms

Skies of Arcadia: Legends

The Lunar Series(except Dragon Song unless it gets a massive remake)

Many Tales of games.

The Legendary Starfy series.

The Firemen/The Firemen 2: Pete & Danny

Ever Oasis

Koudelka and Shadow Hearts series

Older Atelier games

The Legend of Heroes games pre-Trails, such as the Gagharv Trilogy(shown in correct order).

Radiata Stories

Final Fantasy XIII trilogy(they're all on Steam, but not modern consoles yet)

[shitpostingkats]

I think it was… Penny Parker of Snapcube who I first saw pointing out the comparison between Rebirth’s ending and the fix-it fics and game mods that save Aerith from being killed in the temple. For the game mods in particular because Aerith doesn’t exist on the other discs she has to stay behind. Even if you pretend she lives it leaves a necessary hole in the narrative: she has to go pray, or something has to happen so that the story can keep moving. It breaks apart if she’s still in the picture.

He still dies. She still dies. That’s how the story goes.

And it makes me INSAAAAAAAAAAANE

[aokozaki]

Really good gag in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is when an attendant at Costa del Sol gushes about how environmentally friendly the segway "wheelies" are, because of how little Mako they use.

Whilst also telling you to rack up the odometer to 4000m for no reason other than winning fabulous prizes!

Rather than the pretty in your face tone of OG FF7's environmentalist messaging, the Remake Trilogy usually opts for a very downbeat, sarcastic presentation of the same themes. It's really good.

[theghostavocadoe]

something I always think about is these fuckers right here.

These are the Whispers you fight at the end of FF7 Remake. Everybody knows them. And if you've done any amount of browsing on FF7 lore, you might've seen that their fighting styles are based on the Remnants of Sephiroth.

But what people often fail to catch is that these three aren't just based on the remnants, they ARE the remnants.

Each of the whispers have a description that says something along the lines of "It fights to protect the future that gave it shape." And we all know that the whole fight with the whisper harbinger is about the Planet trying to keep fate on it's course.

So these three whispers are the Remnants themselves, fighting desperately to keep the timeline on track so that there's still a future where they exist. They want to live. The Lifestream chose them to fight for the Harbinger because of it.

And the way they fight shows that they still have some kind of conscience/memory from their past lives. Viridi (Loz) targets Tifa and Rubrum (Kadaj) targets Cloud. When you fight Viridi and Croceo (Yazoo) as a duo and one of them dies, the other immediately becomes Enraged and more aggressive.

They are alive, even if they're not their whole selves. And that fucking destroys me.

[diversegaminglists]

Games I finished in 2024

Been sick a lot this year.

Battle Chef Brigade

At Home Alone Final

Deep Sleep Trilogy

Broccoli Quest

Bunflower

The Life and Suffering of Sir Brante

In Fear I Trust - Episode 1: Waking Up

The Door

The Sinking City

Yakuza Kiwami

Tomb Raider 1 Remastered

Nancy Drew: The Haunting of Castle Malloy

Tomb Raider Remastered: Unfinished Business

Dystopicon

Regency Solitaire 2

The Inheritance of Crimson Manor

Afterimage

Fighting Fantasy Classics: The Citadel of Chaos

Tokyo Dark

Terraria

Toem

Crossroads

Doronko Wanko

Eye 4 Eye

Adapta Solva

Illum

Faded Grey

Last Seen Online

Scholar's Mate: First Move

Fate of Dynasty

Final Fantasy 7 Remake

The Test: Secrets of the Soul

Eragon's Tale

The Lancaster Leak - O'Brien State Park

The Lancaster Leak - Crisis at Call Centre

The Lancaster Leak - The Entity Exam

Final Fantasy 7 Remake – Intermission

Alien Squatter

Numen: Contest of Heroes

Thanatos

La Villa de la Muetre

Littlewood

Paper Bride

Paper Bride 2: Zangling Village

Paper Bride 3: Unresolved Love

Long Time No See

Quest for the Golden Candelabra

Loddlenaut

Chex Quest HD

The Suits Have Gone Mad: Chapter One

Little Kitty, Big City

Untitled Goose Game

Kili's Treasure

Paper Bride 4: Bound Love

We Become What We Behold

Tales of Kenzera: Zau

Final Fantasy (Pixel Remaster)

Paper Bride 5: Two Lifetimes

Manor Madness

Choice of Life: Middle Ages

I hurt myself

Shalnor Legends: Sacred Lands

How We Know We're Alive

He Fucked the Girl Out of Me

Amanda the Adventurer

Press Any Button

Still Wakes the Deep

Wizzerd Quest

Adventure Escape Mysteries: Hidden Ruins

Underground Blossom

Boo's There

Blood Orange

System Shock Remake

Vera Blank and the Full Moon

Light Borrower

Boxes: Lost Fragments

Steel Rising

The Operator

Gravitas

Gordian Rooms: A curious heritage

Crime Scene Cleaner

High on Life

Mermaid Swamp (Remake)

Black Skylands

Hellhole Game

The Morning Star

My Eyes Deceive

Digital Exorcist: Case 0

Supraland

Bugsnax

Paranoiac (Remake)

Depth Hunter 2

The Little Mermaid: Magic in Two Kingdoms

7 Wonders: The Treasures of the Seven

7 Wonders II

That's Mahjong!

Flip Witch: Forbidden Sex Hex

Astalon: Tears of the Earth

Shadowbringer

Alwa's Legacy

Harmony's Odyssey

Cope Island

Little Farm

Visage

Summerland

Overloop

Floodcore

clap clap

Inversed

Fable: Anniversary

Dragon Age: Veilguard

mouthwashing