#Alloaro representation

[mrsfrecklesmarauders]

I like the idea of Mary Macdonald being alloaro, but very in love with romance. Let me explain...

Mary feels sexually attracted to people. She likes having fun with them. Like having really good friends she can occasionally fuck. But the moment, there are romantic feelings involved, she gets uninterested. It's like she cannot cross the line of romantic feelings, she cannot feel them.

And she likes romance. She likes people falling in love. She is the Cupid of her friend group. Usually sees with two people are attracted to each other or have feelings for each other, and tries to pair them up. She likes watching it happen to other people, as long as it doesn't happen to her.

The idea of romance and couples make her uncomfortable when it comes to her. When she imagines herself in those situations, it seems like something is wrong.

But she likes sex and she enjoys having sex. And since the world is stupidly amanormative, Mary gets a "slutty" reputation quickly.

And at first, she thinks there might be something wrong with her, sometimes she feels lonely, especially when her friends start pairing up, but only because she feels like she needs someone. Not because she actually needs someone. But then she understands what she was. And accepts it.

Just Mary Macdonald giving the alloaro representation we all deserve. She would be such an alloaro icon.

[aroallo-corvid]

tv shows (in particular sitcoms. i'm thinking about sitcoms) are really missing out on the comedic potential of an aroallo character in a sitcom. everyone's thinking about the comedic potential of awkward romance, but i'm thinking about the comedic potential of desperately trying to avoid romance. climbing out of windows to avoid family asking about a romantic partner. mission impossible-style escape following a one-night stand. spraying people with water from a spray bottle if they engage in pda. holding an anti-valentines day. hiding in impossible places to avoid someone who has expressed romantic feelings for them. two aroallos in a fwb relationship making exaggerated looks of disgust when someone implies they're dating. marriage for tax benefits. sitcoms are really limiting their true comedic potential by not including aroallo characters

[heartless-aro]

Instead of celebrating things that include the aromantic, asexual, and aroace flags/communities as “including the whole set,” we need to start asking why alloaros and non-SAM aros are not explicitly included where aroaces are.

[the-galactic-catt]

op, how the fuck did you manage to make me care about these characters—whom i've always hated since i started the book in jenuary—in only 5 paragraphs

How 'Ugly Love' by colleen hoover could've been a good alloaro story

Hear. Me. Out. I've been thinking about this book and how shallow the 'romance' is with its main couple; tate and miles. How little to no chemistry they have and only shown sexual attraction to each other's appearances. But then it hit me, what if 'ugly love' was a story of an alloaro fling than a 'romance'.

Like for miles, he doesnt feel romantic attraction, only sexual. His first instance of it is when he meets rachel for the first time, he's attracted to her but not romantically, rather sexually (but in the non creepy way like his canon thoughts) which makes him feel guilty/creepy especially when its revealed that she'll be his stepsister (to which they never got together, he gets over her overtime). To distract himself, he would try to date other girls but it just doesnt work. He cannot feel romantic love for any of them, which further confused him. After his breakups, he decides to just go with one night stands that actually works for him and he feels comfortable with himself for the first time for it, though he doesnt know what aro even means.

Tate on the other hand couldve been raised in a christain like or just normal environment where they value romance and stuff like that, to which she never connects to. She didnt connect with girls talking about their crush or boyfriend because she never felt romantic love. The demonising of premartial sex/sex in general are internalised in her that shows through her sexual attraction to miles and their eventual sexual relationship (no strings attached fling kind of thing) She feels like they have to be more, that from the romantic relationships she sees like dillon being a openly proud married man that often emphasise the importance of marriage or her brother with his long term relationship, she feels like something is wrong with her for being in a relationship like that with miles, and how she even enjoys it. This also gives conflict with miles, who was at the accepting point before she did and doesnt want to feel guilty as he did in the past.

Corbin (and aroace) developed a friendship with tate and both talk about their problems. Corbin reveals to her about aromantism, how he figure it out and how he accepted it, reassuring her that its okay to not feel romantic attraction and why theres nothing with only being sexual if that makes her happy. Just like how he's single without any romance/sex and hes happy. She comes to terms with this and communicates with miles about it, with him also discovering HE is also aro. Both come to terms with each other to continue the relationship someday though for now, theyre focusing on themselves with their identity and unlearning amatonormativity. Hell, the title 'ugly love' could connect with this as what people perceive sex without romance as.

My point is that, if we put 'ugly love' on a twist, we couldve had something quite special here. From a boring, shallow 'romance' story that has a wild psuedo incest subplot to a alloaro story that speaks on the amatonormativity and demonisation of sex in society. Just think about it.

[mynameonthebait]

i am once again asking for aroallo characters.

[aroworlds]

I thought Trans Day of Visibility a good time to mention that I have a post collecting my stories with trans aro protagonists. I often feel disconnected from the aro community in that the (albeit very limited!) representation we celebrate and bond over largely depicts cis aros. Characters who seldom encompass, because they are cis, much of how I experience being aromantic.

In order to be seen as aro, I must push my transness into the shadows. The reverse is true in trans-centred fiction, where acceptance--by ourselves and/or others--is often demonstrated via a character's experiences of romantic relationships and love. Time and time again, I must choose which part of me to celebrate and which part to ignore: I can only be transgender or aromantic in the stories about which my communities express delight.

So this is a list of aro stories about gender and trans stories about aromanticism, because we deserve recognition as trans and aro.

[st-ivangeline]

In regards to my most popular post which is on how people don’t want queer representation they want queer romance in regards to how aromantic people (and I mentioned trans rep also but that was glossed over) don’t get any representation people have come to the conclusion that it’s their job to convince me that there is in fact aro representation but it’s aroace rep, headcanoned, or “confirmed by the creator/author”

I want to focus on “confirmed but the creator”

If it’s not explicitly said in the medium (book, show, movie) it’s not representation

When it comes to kids shows I get that they often can’t include explicit confirmation that a character is queer in general but it’s still not rep even if the creator happens to say “oh yea I say this character is queer(in this case aro)”

I don’t consider this rep because unless you follow the creator of the story movie show etc. on Twitter or another social media account you would never know that that character is seen by that creator as queer which is the majority of media consumers

Most consumers don’t follow a creator on socials, so when they’re watching a show that’s the only context they get,

In my opinion a creator saying a character is queer is the same as a headcanon, that creator headcanons their character as queer but for whatever reason whether it’s because it’s for a children’s show where there are restrictions on it or it’s a medium where they could in fact make it explicitly stated in the media but has a shitty excuse or no comment on why that didn’t state it—honestly I’ve seen more examples of a children’s media creator making a statement that they see a character as aromantic then well, I don’t think I’ve seen any examples in adult media

Honestly after all that rambling it definitely comes down to death of the author and how consumers of media view a creators authority over the text—this is a whole different conversation but I’ll go into a little

“Death of the Author is a literary theory that argues that the meaning of a text is not determined by the author's intention, but rather by the reader's interpretation. This theory was first introduced by French philosopher Roland Barthes in his essay “The Death of the Author” in 1967.” (Oxford Home Schooling, 2024)

I firmly believe in death of the author, if I were to ever finish my book (god forbid) I would strongly stand by this even as an author

The biggest example of someone who does Not live by death of the author is J.K Rowling. To pick on the statement after the books had well been out in the world that Dumbledore is gay. The books had no indication that Dumbledore is even remotely implied to be gay yet she stated it so It Must Be True. When someone picks up those books for the first time with no prior knowledge to them (which is pretty impossible with harry potter) they would have no idea that the character was stated to be gay

So pulling this all back to aromantism and representation——it’s not enough for a creator to just assert a character is aromantic for whatever reason, the majority of consumers will never hear that assertion and will never make the connection that that character is aro. And this applies to all representation.

The purpose of representation is to represent that a group that doesn’t have a place in media or society in general, if it’s not explicitly stated that a character is part of that group it might as well have been not stated at all

*aromantic op

*don’t tag ace or aroace

[raven-the-ghost]

ALLOAROS HELLO

I'm a writer and I want to make an alloaro character, what would you like to see in such a character?

[cephalopod-celabrator]

I've seen a lot of pride flag art recently. You know, stuff like snakes as pride flags, dragons as pride flags, etc. And it's really starting to bother me how many of them include asexual but not aromantic. I get that there are a lot of identities and they don't want to do all of them, but why is it always that ace makes the cut and aro doesn't? They're pretty symmetrical identities, relatively speaking, like mlm and lesbian. And I am thrilled that mlm pride flag has become more popular. But if they want to do exactly the amount of pride flags that is just one short of aromantic... then do the aroace pride flag instead of ace. There are plenty of aromantic people with asexual attraction, like me for instance. When I tell people I'm aro, I almost always have to explain it's different from ace. Also I think intersex isn't represented in those art pieces enough, but that's a seperate matter. Asexual and aromantic often go together and we face similar struggles, but we are not the same and I am sick of asexual being used to mean aroace. Like, it's not doing any favors to asexuals, I'm pretty sure alloace people also have a hard time explaining their identity.

[bra1nwashed]

honestly, i sometimes get so sick of being allosexual and aromantic. and 𝙣𝙤𝙩 because 𝙞 have a problem my identity, but rather the fact that 𝙤𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙥𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 do. for 𝙣𝙤 reason.

first of all, we get invalidated for the dumbest reasons. we have literally been called evil or horrible people. we have been told we're players or that we're just using people. i've seen so many occurrences like this too! even some alloaces have stereotyped us as bad people just because we don't feel anything romantic and are open to sexual relations.

second, we do 𝙣𝙤𝙩 get enough representation. all aromantic representation in media and sorts have all been aroace. from what i've seen, all cannon 𝙖𝙧𝙤𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙩𝙞𝙘 characters have also been ace. and i have nothing against aroace people. i'm all for their representation. but i really do think alloaros are not given enough representation and acknowledgement.

third, i'm sick of being rejected by people in a community we're supposed to feel welcome in. so many times, people who are allo (in both ways, not just ace or aro) have denied my validity. it's also quiet hurtful when coming from asexuals.

the aspec community is objected enough on it's own. however, asexuals and aroace people experience that less. asexuals have been able to defend themselves by saying they can still love. aroaces have been more accepted by allos because some people, for some reason, just think that if you can't feel romantic attraction, you shouldn't feel attraction at all. and then, when some is alloaro they are just cast out as a villain or seen as a bad person.

as an alloaro, i feel like being told we're bad people or something because we're open to sex and not romance is sort of like being called a fraud or being told you're faking your sexuality because you're bisexual or pansexual and in a hetero relationship.

it's something you might get shit for so commonly, so you usually don't react (𝙛𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙢𝙮 𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚). but sometimes it just gets bad. you feel unaccepted, unsafe, violated, and just overall offended and hurt.

it's harmful, stupid, and useless. i don't usually get angry at this point anymore. my identity have been insulted and invalidated multiple times. it's been unacknowledged even more. but that's what i hate. we are constantly invalidated because we don't get heard out. if we had to chance to speak out, i think the aspec community, especially aromantics, would have a much better, safer, more welcoming community.

thank you for listening <3

[aroallo-corvid]

i'm all for more aspec representation in general (of course i am) but like. there's really something to be said about how i can make a post that explicitly says "i would like to see more aroallo/alloaro characters in sitcoms because i think there are comedic dynamics that are worth exploring" and many people responding by tagging canon aroace characters/subtextually aroace characters and/or making the post more about aroace characters

like that is a valid point!! we do need more aroace characters, but when the majority of aspec representation is aroace or ace characters, a post calling for more aroallo/alloaro representation (that we already have very little of outside of headcanon) is not really the place to talk about that

[haileygonzales]

Aro rep in my books:

Take Me to Your Nerdy Leader (Bowden Anime Club): main character Paige is alloaro. A coming of age YA novel about friends, first times, anime, finding your confidence, and art.

Strange Worlds (Jensen in the Multiverse): The main character is aroace. He vaguely thinks about it in book 1 (where he learns about the identity) and confirms it in book 2. There’s other aro and ace characters. A portal fantasy: Jensen used to be a thief. Now he’s on a quest to save the multiverse from the evil Overlord.

Ancient Magic (Gray Stone Witches): Side character turned main character, Rachel, is alloaro and bisexual. This is confirmed in book 2. In book 3 and onwards she has her own POV. An urban fantasy novel about college witches who struggle to survive in a dangerous magical world while an enemy lurks in the shadows.

Luvian Code: main character, self-love Cupid, Theodosius is aromantic. A cozy urban fantasy novella about him reluctantly mentoring a fledgling Cupid, Kai, and teaching him the equality of the seven loves.

[queen0funova]

In the club crying because I don't exist in media. Like at all

[aroaceconfessions]

i wish there was more alloaro representation. i hate when people automatically assume we must all be ace too. i hate when i joke about not wanting a romantic partner and my ace best friend jumps in to say "lol same, i could never" when she has literally dated before and does not understand what i am talking about. (drop shows/films/books with good alloaro characters in the tags while we're at it)

Submitted April 18, 2023

[un-deserts-your-bluffs]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Hatchetfield Series - Team StarKid Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Donna Daggit/Dan Reynolds Characters: Donna Daggit, Dan Reynolds (Hatchetfield) Additional Tags: Aromantic Donna Daggit, Queerplatonic Relationships, Complicated Relationships, this is unbeta-d and unedited i wrote this in one day because it seized me, Internalized Aphobia, aromantics your dangit Summary:

Donna Daggit and Dan Reynolds go on a date. Well. Sort of.

Turns out, one of our favorite news anchors is aromantic, which makes things a bit more complicated. aka: look at my aromantic dangit, boy (/ref /j)

[nightvale359]

Sometimes i really see the dumbest most toxic takes of this app and i just want to delete my account