#yeah they admitted to it already
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thegreatyin Ā· 3 months ago
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i always knew buying all the ministers before estival would pay off
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mxtxfanatic Ā· 6 months ago
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There are a few places in mdzs where, in the midst of Wei Wuxian trying to placate him, Jiang Cheng says something so terribly, egregiously misrepresentative of Wei Wuxian and his morals that all Wei Wuxian can do is stare at himā€”like an adult realizing for the first time that the tantruming child they are attempting to calm may just be spoiledā€”before deciding to give up on the conversation. ā€œSure, Jiang Cheng,ā€ he says, ā€œitā€™s whatever you feel. Itā€™s whatever you want.ā€
People like to say that the problem with the Yunmeng friendship is simply communication issues, but I think the real problem is that when true conflict happens between them, they both realize that they truly do not like each other. The difference is that Jiang Cheng reacts to this realization by trying to force Wei Wuxian into the shape that he wants, which is submissionā€”ā€œDo as I say! Listen to me! Obey me!ā€ā€”while Wei Wuxian stands at the other end of the torched bridge he plans to never cross again and goes, ā€œSure Jiang Cheng, itā€™s whatever you feel, itā€™s whatever you want.ā€
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bluebutlikenotalways Ā· 6 months ago
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And so we return, as all things do, to Centaurworld.
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[X] Should I draw Nowhere King Black Pearl? Vote now!
ALSO! White Pearlā€™s design is once again cosmicwhoreoā€™s
Actually Iā€™m not leaving this in the tags. I loved doing those funky backgrounds, but it also means a diversity loss because he fucking speared her on bisexual beach DX
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tomasitaoficial Ā· 26 days ago
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Me, Tomasita DanĆŗbia Inferno, come to revive MY ACCOUNT and to publish something after a while... And I'm also coming back to become a D&D fan, More specifically, the Once Upon A WitchLight campaign of Legends Of Avantris (YouTube channel). FUCKING SHIT.
Anyway, have mini drawings
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I love them so much, man...
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And a drawing of Bitsy because, why not in the first place?
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kazanskyy Ā· 4 months ago
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iceman + his concern for maverick post-hop 31
#icemav#top gun edit#ice is a FASCINATING one to watch post-hop 31 imo because while yesā€š obviouslyā€š the focus is on maverick and his grief and devastation#ice is there the whole time in the backgroundā€š watching. and he's visibly disturbed by what he's seeing. because yeah -#he and mav had a rivalry going and yeah he called maverick dangerous and reckless to his face and he stands by that - he does.#but the problem is that this time - this one fluke freak accident of a time - it wasn't maverick's fault at all.#an unrecoverable flat spin brought on by a compressor stall from ice's jetwash isn't something that maverick could've outflown#by sticking to textbook maneuvers. it was just shit luck and shitty circumstances aligning to create a tragic mishap.#but now - now ice can see the way maverick is unraveling in the aftermath#and i'd bet that on some level it terrifies him to see that.#he's used to seeing maverick with all that brash cocky confidence with the moves to back it up.#he's maybe even had a bit of fun jockeying against that. not that he'd admit that out loud. (yet)#but maverick's spiraling now - a hollowed out shell of his former self - leaking grief and self-doubt and despair everywhere he goes#and it actually hurts to look at for iceā€š seeing maverick like this. seeing how much maverick really REALLY fucking cared under that facade#and wondering if maverick is finally taking the stuff ice said to him to heartā€š but applying it all wrong.#so he watches maverick and eventually that concern builds to a point where he tries to offer an olive branch in the locker room#you can SEE how carefully he gathers himself - how much he's holding back - he doesn't want to say the wrong thing to maverick NOW#he doesn't want to make this worse than it already is. so it comes out stilted. it's earnest - but restrained. he can't find his footing.#he doesn't know where he and maverick stand now but he's sorry - that goose is goneā€š that maverick's going through thisā€š#that he doesn't know how to help or what to sayā€š and - crucially - for his own part in this.#but he wants mav to stick around and push through this. even though he's dangerous. even though he's reckless. ice wants him to beat this.#so when maverick shows up to graduationā€š ice is encouraged. and he's a little warmer. maverick really might pull through.#but thenā€š all too soonā€š it's ice's life on the line in maverick's hands. and it scares the shit out of him because maverick's not ready#and now ice - and slider - are going to have to pay the price for that.#and thenā€š against all oddsā€š maverick pushes through. he comes back for them. he comes back for ice.#and after that...well.#after thatā€š ice does know what to say: a vow.#my amvs#linds original
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beatcroc Ā· 1 year ago
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there's no way the bathroom at peppino's pizza is actually that big but ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ . hey ummm anyway.... i care them...... anyway there's a lil ramble on my take on fake pep's like psyche or whatever in tags on the og post if ur into that kinda thing :y
hey! it's a series! fake peppino world tour: [noise] [noisette] [peppino]<- u are here [gustavo] [gerome] [noisette again]
#ramble after realtags yeag. shoutout to serrangelic btw suggesting the silhouettes thing bc i would have Died otherwise#pizza tower#peppino spaghetti#fake peppino#gustavo and brick#arting#pizzaposting#so anyway i think fake peppino has like. a general awareness that he is supposed to Be Peppino and that he was Made to do that#and likewise he does generally try to...do that. the thing he does NOT realize is hes like really goddamn bad at it#not to be mean but like...c'mon. they are pretty distinctly different kinds of guys even beyond the physiology yknow.#he's neither on-brand nor fooling anyone dsjdsjjkgfsd. BUT!#since the rest of the cast generally likes him [at least as I play it] he thinks hes doing just fine#he's like 'oh they r happy with me so i must be getting a good grade in being peppino :)'#so getting told that 'yeah you actually really suck at that but that was never the reason people liked you'#and told that by og model peppino no less--yknow THE guy he's supposed to be living up to#who's already a bit intimidating for that and who ALSO totally wrecked him TWICE in the tower#making him acutely familiar with just how formidable the guy is and how much there IS to live up to....#it's a Moment for sure. not really a sad or hurt one though. just... contemplative.#thinking abt people liking him for being the guy he's already naturally been being even though that guy is Not Peppino#i don't think he's gonna be super broken up about realizing he has a bad grade in peppino given everything else hes got now#nor do i really think he cares enough to go like reinvent himself or whatever after the fact#he seems to b pretty clearly having fun with it already so i think he just keeps doing that#and in some cases he still has the pre-installed peppino traits/instincts like to cooka da pizza. and that's fine#is this projection. yes. but if youve been following me awhile you know most of my character writing is ghdhfdgf#gonna kinda expand on all this in the gerome one which is...one after next. itll be a bit but man.#anyway peppino will never admit to anyone and especially not himself that he's gotten a little attached to the guy. hee hoo#pep tends to be kinda surly but he certainly has his ways of showing he cares. all of which are on display here#''that thing is not my son'' says man currently watching thing's antics with the 'bemused dad' arms crossed pose. yeah ok buddy.#gus is totally onto him already but hes not gonna say anything.#if u read all this ur prize is not having to go decode fp's rot13. his lines are ''meant to be you...?'' and ''wrong question.''
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lemonysnicket Ā· 1 year ago
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gerard keay my most belovedest
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random-dragon-exe Ā· 1 month ago
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One thing that I find interesting is that the Fungeon is made entirely out of candy, save for the door, sink, and the chains.
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I would've said the bars too, but I looked it up and they're pocky sticks.
So with this information, why couldn't Felix (or any prisoner in there) just eat their way out?
Instead of you know, not thinking straight and making the bars stronger.
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Like I get it, Felix was desperate to find a way out so he resorted to using his hammer, which is the only thing he knows. (Which admittedly, was slightly stupid)
But still, I wonder if he tried it at any point in there.
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acebabecd Ā· 3 months ago
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"How dare Orym be angry and constantly bring up his murdered loved ones whenever people act like their deaths were acceptable collateral, he needs to get over it and listen to others for once!" Is it crack? Is that what you smoke?
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daisybell-on-a-carousel Ā· 4 months ago
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"Jason was the happy robin" this, "jason was the angry robin" that. Let's all be fully honest here Jason was the lonely robin
#It gets worse the more i think about it aiguaoughhh#they pretty much retconned the people he was close to before the crisis. he only interacts with dick like once or twice#ive never seen him with barbara#he had no team#in terms of school he had rena(?) and then 3 friends that show up in an annual and never again#and obviously with the whole secret identity it hardly can be a close friendship. esp with how little theyre shown#in terms of super friends he had Danny and Kid Devil. which. one is mentioned off hand and theyre never seen together#and the other is from a short story and never brought up again#alfred has his praises sung but we never really see him connect with jay#all he had was BRUCE. and the only way to ever be with bruce is to be robin#is it really any wonder he chased after his mother? is it any wonder who chose to trust someone he hardly knew?#dc liveblog#jason todd#i feel so bad for him all the time for forever#ive just started reading comics after his death but before his resurrection. the hallucination jason era#and its seems to be shaping up to be with him written as the angry robin who never listened#which i Know is because of the writers. but in universe? it just feels like jason wasnt understood or known at all#doylist vs watsonian moment as they say#dc comics#batman comics#and he became a symbol of failure to batman So Quickly. not a memory but a reminder#and every trophy from his time as robin was taken out of the batcave. and every moment as jason was removed from (at least) bruces room#he was on call/on a list as a backup titan if they needed help but he wasnt With them. they teamed up twice#i cant remember if he meant it towards blood specifically or in general rn but he fully admitted to not being good/experienced enough#they didn't really know him and he didn't really know them#wait fuck was rena all pre-crisis. devastating. he stopped going on patrols n being robin for awhile when she was his gf#of course by then he was already A Hero who cant fully ignore how he can help so he eventually was like yeah we should stop a little#obviously there was that catwoman arc going on and i feel writers just liked keeping him away alot. but ough. he was so quick to stop when#there was someone There. and robin didn't have ti feel like all he had#anyway crisis got rid of her im sure. like harvey. when does 'pre and post crisis' actually start bc its not at the crisis its issues after
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casdeans-pie Ā· 1 month ago
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I don't think I'll ever stop enjoying when people find out I'm 32 and their eyebrows go up
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catocappuccino Ā· 4 months ago
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It's been a year since I redrew that one Snorkmimi render...
So yeah I did it again ofc I would, why oh why wouldn't I? Tee hee silly meee
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Attaching the 2023 redraw and og cause- uh- I donno, because yes, why not!!!
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#This also means updated banner HECK YEAH šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„#These redraws of mine are so different style-wise it's funny lmao#shoutout to Snorkmaiden one of my fav characters ever she's so perfect in every way my little baby#oh and update : since last year I still have NOT tasted ā€œSnorkmaiden's dreamy chocolateā€ moomin coffee maybe one day I will or I'll do the#smart thing of making choco coffee myself without buying the maybe overpriced thing that just happens to have Snorkmay on it (I don't even#like sweet coffee šŸ˜­) buuut... you know... I could always just get it once and keep the package as a treasure! Cause I'm a hoarder. It might#or might not be a problem but I don't have time to think about that and work on it I have 100 possible uses for this old straw what if I#reeeaaallly need an old straw one day and I DON'T have it because I threw it away? Yeah! END OF THE WORLD!!!#Tbh hate to admit it but Snufkin's hazelnut coffee sounds the most inviting from all of the moomin flavoured choices to me I LOVE hazelnuts#I don't even know what licorice tastes like and I am NOT eating anything that is advertised with Stinky on the cover (jk Stinky's great)#I'm already sick of everything salted caramel flavoured it's just sugar n' salt with a different ribbon and blueberry... I'll pass. And like#I said before - I'm not a fan of sweet coffee. Sorry Snorkmaiden :[#okay enough of it no one reads allat time for real tags#snorkmaiden#snorkfrƶken#niiskuneiti#moomin#moomins#moomin books#Snork mimimimimimi Snork mimimimimimi
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ratwars Ā· 2 years ago
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If the PM had somehow been the primary target of all of these plots instead of the ADA I firmly believe half of the situations could have been solved with Kajii. I understand he isn't popular but listen there is a reason he is who they pull out first with a hat trick when shit gets real.
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schnaf Ā· 2 months ago
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22 days until jooyeon's 22nd birthday
day 20 aka THE COUNTDOWN IS OVER - jooyeon's past birthday brrrr ppoppos
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fumifooms Ā· 5 months ago
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Youā€™re the resident chilchuck expert, so I was wondering about it thereā€™s any canon evidence that he did smoke or drink alcohol when the kids were younger. I always thought it was something he picked up due to the strain of long jobs, when the kids were already older, but you seem to think differently and I was wondering if there was anything in canon that made you think that way!
Now that you mention it I guess itā€™s true thereā€™s no evidence he did. Smoking we literally only know he does at all because of one post-canon panel where he has a pipe, so no, maybe this stick-looking thing in the panel below too though, Iā€™m not familiar with medieval blunts eh. Weā€™ve only gotten one panel of him and his daughters interacting when he was younger so thatā€™s not too insightful on that end, and every time we see him young and freckled itā€™s in a job context so again not really where weā€™d expect him to be drinking. The earliest proof (/heavy implication since we donā€™t see inside his cup I guess) is 3 years before canon when Laios hired him, where heā€™s at a bar, classily placed in front of all the bottles āœØ
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Yes alcohol is almost certainly a way through which he copes especially with stress, so if we go with the theory he started around when work got stressful, wellā€¦ Chilchuck started working as a dungeon diver ~10 years ago so when he was ~19, making Mei, Fler and Puck ~6 and ~4 respectively, so from that draw the ā€˜stressful enough to start drinkingā€™ line wherever. We donā€™t know what he did before that with any certainty, and it could be he did odd jobs, lived off mostly mutual aid and community work, or just focused on only raising the girls. Half-foots tend to be poor and I see a lot of that in Chilchuck specifically so I donā€™t think he could have afforded to not have some paying work though.
Alright, so then why do I think he did drink when the girls were younger?
I give a more complete rundown of the info we do have on his alcoholism & his family with panels and references + all the speculation I make from it here. But the most targeted and objective answer I can give is:
Of course thereā€™s just very very little we know of Chilchuckā€™s life with his family, and I think thatā€™s by design too. I think the details being up in the air is to allow more nuance of the topic, like, will trying to reconcile go well, is their relationship salvageable? We donā€™t know, because we donā€™t know. So the message of giving hope a chance even if itā€™s a long shot, that things could truly go either way, is more relevant, impactful and meta in that way. How long was he usually away for work travels into dungeons here and there? How did he act with them? All we can really do is "itā€™s likely that", itā€™s a game of which way we think itā€™s more implied. Thereā€™s no right and wrong answer, itā€™s all Marcille-like larping the events out.
My main reason for thinking he did is that his father died from overdrinking and Chilchuck is very aware of that. He mentions his death casually in the extra about their stance in alcohol and in his Adventurerā€™s Bible profile, etc. He acts towards the alcohol presumably the same way his father did: with abandon, uncaring for the health effects, probably happily too considering Chil says "dying doing something you love is a good way to go". Very nonchalant. So you see what Iā€™m saying here right, wether he started early or late, his view of alcoholism is very influenced by what he saw of his father growing up, itā€™s something heā€™s always been aware of and saw in a mostly positive light, something that was inherited you could say. Itā€™s something that was normalized to him from a young age. Regardless or where it goes from there I do think this part is pretty inarguable. If he views it positively and we know that in the present alcohol is his favorite food that he loveees, why would he have held out on it? Personally that all makes me think he started drinking very young, especially since I donā€™t think they limited alcohol to age as much as modern standards (and I mean, teen drinking is obviously still a thing). And here you could argue, maybe his father only started being more alcoholic later when Chilchuck moved out, or something! And to that thereā€™s nothing I can say except I think thatā€™s a strained theory, and that Chil might even have largely cut contact with his family after moving out (since he and siblings are listed as almost strangers and he doesnā€™t seem to have much emotional attachment to his parents, but also we know he rents out his place to "a relative"), but itā€™s true we have no evidence. "Iā€™ve picked up the same unhealthy substance abuse as my father haha! No big deal right haha" repeated several times to me just reeks of intergenerational trauma, & the alcoholism gene as they call it. Like effortless sliding into drinking as if itā€™s second nature, itā€™s natural after all, itā€™s normal after all, it just makes sense, it makes you feel good and thatā€™s what matters.
BUT from my interpretation then we have a whole other layer: Alcohol is of course not all bad always. I think heā€™s always liked alcohol and drank it on occasion and it brought him joy etc etc, but I think here the implication in the question is, how much effect did his drinking have on the family relations and how early? And that isnā€™t so much about when him drinking started but when the alcoholism started. Addiction is defined by a habitual need, that has negative effects from filling that need (physical, psychological, social, etc) and negative effects from withdrawal. If Chilchuck drinks to cope and he canā€™t not cope without it, thatā€™s addiction, if it affects his relationships, if itā€™s a need he has, itā€™s addiction. Addiction can be very insidious or look very casual, and how much people around the person are affected by it is case by case. Cheerful drunks can be sooo annoying and uncomfortable though let me tell you. Drunks are drunks. And this sounds harsh, but even if people around them donā€™t mind drunks itā€™ll still have some effects here and there, living with one can be such a challenge, ily drunks good luck with everything much like Chilchuck you deserve good things šŸ«”怀
Ok so with the dad thing and the "ok well maybe heā€™s always drunk casually but it grew worse with time around when he started working as a dungeon diver" precision made, the other bit of info we have that can inform this is that Chilchuck is on a harsh diet and that alcohol is a hunger suppressant. We know Chilchuck "used to be fine not eating for two days", that literally on screen to quench his hunger so it doesnā€™t keep him awake he goes to drink water, drinking is his instinct to hunger. Again alcohol is a hunger suppressant and if you want info on that the internet has a lot of research and anecdotes about it. He diets to be light enough to not trigger traps, so itā€™s something heā€™d have started after dungeon diving most likely. Between the stress and the diet, yes itā€™s extremely likely he started going harder on alcohol after he started working in dungeons. Thereā€™s arguments on wether two days without eating is less bad for half-foots than humans, but apart from smaller portions thereā€™s nothing that indicates half-foots should get less than 3 meals a day. They need less food but thatā€™s because their bodies are smaller: the need is proportional to the body, not smaller than othersā€™ races, the % of need is similar even if the kg amount of food isnā€™t. Thereā€™s also a popular headcanon with support basis that half-foots run hot and have a faster heartrate and whatnot, and that points towards a faster metabolism rather than a slower one: a bigger need for eating rather than a smaller one. He has the same bmi, 18, as Mickbell, but perhaps because Chil is much taller heā€™s less intensely visibly underweight with ribs showing than Mick during the bath extra, itā€™s most apparent when he becomes tallman.
Alcohol is something so important and omnipresent in his character that I have trouble believing itā€™s something that was part of only a small fraction of his life. Itā€™s his immediate go-to, his no-brainer solution to a good time, Iā€™ve sort of always assumed especially after looking at his family that itā€™s something he discovered decently young. Like he just acts like someone whoā€™s always had alcohol to fall back on and started young idk. Alcohol is one of his 5 keywords. Alcoholism is very ingrained into his world view and life, his "it doesnā€™t matter" stance his ā€˜work hard play hardā€™ mentality his idea that the world is harsh so you get relief where you can, so it just makes sense to me that itā€™s always been in his life, if not actively then at least looming.
So yes, in summary, my take: Alcohol was always something he wholly enjoyed to an unwise level, but it could have been considered casual until he started working into dungeons and his need for it on a regular basis intensified. Alcohol has always had positive association to him as far as we see, so when it started being a problem he didnā€™t see it as such. To quote him, "I drink anytime I get the opportunity to". Why always? Approval of fatherā€™s alcoholism. Why alcoholism at all? Diet + stress & coping mechanism & emotional stunting + relationship issues, and she decided she had enough after they went out for drinks.
Conclusion
Chilchuck having drunk from a young age makes sense to me and itā€™s the strongest narrative angle I see on the table, but thatā€™s objectively a me opinion, yes! Thereā€™s no evidence, moreso thereā€™s canon basis and supporting info, but itā€™s all very left up to interpretation. Iā€™ve made my own interpretations of things from the scraps we see, like everyone else making Chilwife and daughters content. Wether you have a stance on the topic or prefer to leave it vague in your takes, itā€™ll be a matter of what you think makes most sense, or what youā€™d rather believe I suppose (which is literally fine)
Thereā€™s a lot of subjectivity in even just setting up causal links like you probably noticed during this and I was careful with my word choices, because weā€™re just extrapolating from what we see and unless Kui states it explicitly from a reliable mouth all we can do is have informed opinions on most things. This particular interpretation is influenced by other details Iā€™ve come to form about my interpretation of Chilchuck too, the more psychological and emotional sides of him and the timeline and how his marriage even happened, unplanned pregnancy imo. Like I hope you see what I mean, this wasnā€™t supposed to be a speculation post just a quick simple answer but thereā€™s sort of just no other and concise but complete way with the subjectivity nuance to put "maybe it could be yes because of this but maybe it could be no because of this" haha
Edit: Wait the phrasing on thisā€¦ Interesting. "In recent years"ā€” This does imply that if not just his alcohol consumption increasing then the diversity and quality of it did, so either he indeed did start drinking more (not necessarily meaning he didnā€™t drink before) assumedly because of his wife leaving, or he started drinking other/more different kinds of alcohol maybe due to the union he formed + his experience gave him greater salary than he had previously (and no wife and family to provide money for), a mix of both perhaps.
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#Also heā€™s a lot like my own dad so to me with how he is itā€™s just an immediate ā€œoh yeah he has always drunk duh of courseā€#So i can admit to bias. Or to specialized knowledge and authority on analysis idk in which way that tips the balance in my favor or not lol#Dungeon meshi#chilchuck tims#meta#alcoholism#This post was meant to be short :|#-slaps chilchuckā€™s family- this baby can fit in so much projection#I have like 3 chil alcoholism & chil family fic wips rn weeeeee#Iā€™m the kind of alcoholicā€™s kid who grew up to never touch alcohol btw so like. Ik Chil could not have drunk young i just think he did#Can we appreciate the alcohol opinion & resistance chart actually. So often in media itā€™s either ā€œalcoholā€™s a source of fun yippeeā€ and#ā€œalcohol is evilā€. Thank you Dunmeshi for diversity of opinion thank you for nuance i rarely feel so seen#Izutsumi deserves to tell Chilchuck he stinks#AND BY THE WAY I hope you donā€™t feel talked down on anon. Ik you seem to have your own interpretation already & thatā€™s good#sometimes i was adressing like. The General Public TM more than you which is why I spent time on some things like ā€˜think what you wantā€™ etc#Okok i hope that covers it. Help where does the time go#Itā€™s the sort of thing that makes Kuiā€™s masterful storytelling by implying things here and there until it forms a big picture frustrating#for meta. Like! You canā€™t prove Chilchuck has been poor/grew up in an empoverished family/environment. Thereā€™s no evidence#but also you cannot tell me with a straight face that he isnā€™t and hasnā€™t like omg. But then it takes 30 pages to explain how heā€™s coded#Stop showing and not telling Kui smh /j#Ask#I think a lot about the trolls comic and man he was already so tense and grumpy and yelling. I do think that guy was stress relief drinking
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fideidefenswhore Ā· 6 months ago
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'Thus he ended his speech, and he doesn't say That he had wronged or spoken ill of the king, But he prayed that God long keep the king In life, in happiness, [in honour], and in contentment. And when, to the people in attendance, he said, With a steadfast countenance, "Pray for me," With a firm heart he presented his head To the sharp blade that carried it off in one blow. [And not fearing the great cruelty Of the sharp blade [...] Each one seeing that people bore great grief from it] The [three] who had to die afterwards Said nothing, as if they intentionally Had entrusted Rochford Alone to speak for their conscience [...] [The Queen] was still so curious [...] Therefore, they tell her that her brother had shown The greatest strength of any man ever seen [...] The story of the death of Anne Boleyn : a poem by Lancelot de Carle, JoAnn DellaNevaĀ (Translator,Ā Editor,Ā Writer of added commentary)
"'I will,' he said in a good lawyerly fashion, 'not in this point arouse any suspicion which might prejudice the king's issue.' Unwilling to drop his line of questioning, Hales next claimed that George had spread malicious reports which called into question the paternity of Anne's child, Elizabeth. George did not dignify this with an answer. He knew his own sister." Hunting the Falcon, John Guy & Julia Fox
"But George refused to answer the question with the required yes or no, not wishing, he said, ā€œto engender or create suspicion in a matter likely to prejudice the issue the King might have from another marriage.ā€ Nor would he respond to any suggestion that he had spread a rumour that Elizabeth was not Henryā€™s. The idea that he believed Elizabeth was not the kingā€™s child and that he had repeated such an untruth was, to George, so contemptible that he would not even dignify it with a reply." The Infamous Lady Rochford, Julia Fox
"George Boleyn's real 'crime' was to be Anne Boleyn's brother and Princess Elizabeth's uncle. He was intelligent and spirited enough to mount a powerful defence of his sister. He was powerful enough to provide the focus for Boleyn followers and, especially, those who would assert Elizabeth's rights as heir to the crown." Anne Boleyn, Josephine Wilkinson
#tsf repeated the line of 'george sealed his own fate' which pissed me off...so much#(yes these are screencaps from tsf. don't @ me)#george boleyn#first of all; george's fate was already sealed. so#secondly; i feel like that report from chapuys has been...misinterpreted; possibly?#(unpopular opinion forthcoming): i don't think he repeated what was written on the accusations he was brought#to humiliate henry (although probably this was a bonus)#i think it was more a matter of... he wasn't going to allow them to accuse him of having said something ('not even more replied better')#that they refused to read into the record. and accountability and possibly more a way to give one last blow to cromwell#vis a vis humiliating henry. which is part of why wulfhall was so infuriating#that it was portrayed as cromwell 'tricking' george into doing so.#because the next part (oft omitted which is why i've included it above) is that he won't say anything to impugn the king's issue.#and the NEXT part is to accuse him himself of having spread rumors elizabeth wasn't the king's child#and why would he do that. even his enemies admitted his intelligence#(christopher hales was very closely connected to cromwell and george would've known that if he fucked up it would reflect on cromwell and#thus infuriate henry)#as for his last speech; i wish he was given the credit that anne is given and deserves#which is that his final words were to protect his remaining family#but yeah. so much interesting in de carles. these men being fortified by notcing the crowd was grieving them; not exulting in their ends.
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