#which is interesting in its own way

[amphibious-thing]

Molly Slang

In the 18th century men who had sex with other men were known as Mollies. Mollies, at least those who lived in London, had their own slang. There were of course common 18th century terms for sex between men. There was sodomy from which we get sodomite, sodomitical, sodomitically and sodomity. And buggery from which we get bugger. While ‘sodomite’ was the word used by the courts and medical texts, ‘molly’ seems to have been the word used by the community.

The early church fathers stigmatised homosexuals as molls or sissies, and secular society called effeminate men molly-coddles and homosexuals mollies; having no other self-referring terms except the even less appealing Sodomite or Bugger, gay men transformed Molly into a term of positive self-identification, in exactly the same way that the modern subculture has transformed Gay (which derived originally from 'gay girl', meaning a female prostitute) into a term of pride and self-liberation.

~ Rictor Norton, Mother Clap's Molly House, p105

The following is an attempt to not only list and define, but also provide an example of each molly slang term in use.

Battersea’d

This ones a bit uncertain but Rictor Norton suggests that it’s “probably a synonym for ‘clapped’” (p62)

Example:

I have seen Men in his back Room behave themselves sodomitically, by exposing to each other's Sight, what they ought to have conceal'd. I have heard some of them say, Mine is the best. Yours has been Battersea'd. — I don't know what they meant by the Expression.

(Trial of George Whittle, April 1726)

Bit a Blow

Norton suggests this is “equivalent to the modern day slang ‘score a trick’.” (p67)

Example:

If they can but procure a young smug-fac'd Fellow, they never grudge any Expence; they are as eager in the Pursuit, as a young Gallant would be in quest of a Maidenhead; and it is remarkable, those effeminate Villains are much fonder of a new Convert, than a Bully would be of a Mistress at any Time, except when Madam has been fortunate, has had a good Night, bit a Blow, and buys two or three Smiles and Kisses at the Expence of a Purse of Gold.

(The Weekly Journal: or, The British Gazetteer, 7 May 1726)

Caudle-Making or Giving Caudle

Norton suggests this was “another term for anal intercourse” from “the Latin cauda, a tail.” (p106) However the term seems to be used in reference to lying-in ceremonies at molly houses. “Caudle” was a “warm drink of sweetened or spiced wine or ale thickened with gruel or other ingredients,” given “chiefly to invalids, expectant mothers, etc., and (formerly) also to those visiting a mother following the birth of a child.” (see OED) So mollies may have literally given caudle as part of the lying-in ceremony.

Example:

yet the public indignation was in some measure for a moment allayed, by the grotesque appearance of the actors:—they were seized in the very act of giving caudle to their lying-in women, and the new-born infants personated by large dolls!

(Robert Holloway, The Phœnix of Sodom, or, The Vere Street Coterie, 1813)

Chapel

A room in a molly house with a bed where one could get married (i.e. a place to have sex). [See definition of marry]

Example:

he keeps a back Room for the Mollies to drink in, and a private Room betwixt that and the Kitchen, there is a Bed in it, for the Use of the Company, when they have a Mind to be married, and for that Reason, they call that Room, The Chappel.

(Trial of George Whytle, 20 April 1726)

The Female Dialect

Molly slang.

Example:

When they are met, together, their usual Practice is to mimick a female Gossiping & fall into all the impertinent Tittle Tattle that a merry Society of good Wives can be subject to. Not long since they had cushioned up one of their Brethren, or rather Sisters, according to Female Dialect,

(Ned Ward, The History of the London Clubs, p28, published 1709)

Festival Night

Masquerade nights held at molly houses. These sometimes involved mock births known as a “lying-in” in which a molly would act out a birth scene with a wooden baby.

Example:

Not long since, upon one of their Festival Nights, they had cusheon’d up the Belly of one. of their Sodomitical Brethren, or rather Sisters, as they commonly call’d themselves, disguising him in a Womans Night-Gown, Sarsnet-Hood, and Nightrale, who, when the Company were met, was to mimick the wry Faces of a groaning Woman, to be deliver’d of a joynted Babie they had provided for that Purpose, and to undergo all the Formalities of a Lying in.

(Ned Ward, Satyrical Reflections On Clubs, p285, published 1710)

Husband

A romantic and/or sexual partner.

Example:

a private Room betwixt that and the Kitchen, there is a Bed in it, for the Use of the Company, when they have a Mind to be married, and for that Reason, they call that Room, The Chappel. - And there he has brought me to several Husbands, as we used to call them.

(Trial of George Whytle, 20 April 1726)

Indorse

Anal sex

Example:

to indorse, as they call it, but in plain English to commit Sodomy.

(The Weekly Journal, 7 May, 1726)

Lying-in

A mock birth ceremony held at molly houses on festival nights in which a molly would act out a birth scene with a wooden baby.

To make themselves as ridiculous as Extravagance and Effeminacy can render them, they sometimes have a Lying-inn, when one of them is plac'd in a Chair, and the others attending with Napkins, a Bason of Water, &c. Susan Guzzle, a Gentleman's Servant, is the Midwife, and with a great Deal of Ceremony, a jointed Baby is brought from under the Chair he sits on.

(James Dalton's Narrative, 1728)

Maiden Name

Sobriquets used by mollies. Often involved a variation of the name Molly or a reference to a molly’s profession. E.g. Moll Irons, Pomegranate Molly, Dip-Candle Mary. (see Norton p92 for more examples of maiden names)

Example:

The Prisoner sold Oranges and for that reason he went by the Maiden Name (as they call'd it) of Orange Deb.

(Trial of Martin Mackintosh, 11 July 1726)

Make a Bargain

Agree to have sex.

Example: 

where they make their Bargains, and then with draw into some dark Corners to indorse, as they call it, but in plain English to commit Sodomy.

(The Weekly Journal, 7 May, 1726)

The Markets

Cruising grounds.

Example:

We hear that near 20 houses have been discover’d, which entertain’d sodomitical clubs; besides the nocturnal assemblies of great numbers of the like vile persons at what they call the markets, which are the Royal-Exchange, Moorfields, Lincolns-Inn Bog-houses, the south side of St. James’s Park and the piazza’s of Covent-Garden, where they make their bargains, and then with draw into some dark corners to indorse, as they call it, but in plain English to commit sodomy.

(The Weekly Journal, 7 May, 1726)

Marry

To have sex

Then they'd go by Couples, into a Room on the same Floor to be marry'd as they call'd it. The Door at that Room was kept by - Ecclestone to prevent any body from balking their Diversions. - When they came out, they used to brag in plain Terms, of what they had been doing, and the Prisoner was present all the Time, except when she went out to fetch Liquors.

(Trial of Margaret Clap, 11 July 1726)

Molly (plural Mollies)

A man who had sex with other men.

Example:

Sukey Haws, being one Day in a pleasant Humour, inform'd Dalton of a Wedding (as they call it) some Time since, between Moll Irons, and another Molly,

(James Dalton's Narrative, 1728)

Molly House

A house or tavern that catered to mollies. Typically served alcohol and often had music and dancing. Usually there was a room where mollies could have sex known as the chapel. Some molly houses took molly lodgers. (see trial of William Griffin, 20 April, 1726)

Example:

Mrs. Clap's House was notorious for being a Molly-House.

(Trial of Gabriel Lawrence, 20 April, 1726)

Molly, Mollied

To flirt with/have sex with another man.

Example:

I said, I never mollied you. My Lord, I never laid my Hand upon him, nor touch'd him; I never touch'd the Man in my Life.

(Trial of Richard Manning, 17 January 1746)

Mollying

Of a man who has sex with other men.

Example:

But they look'd a skew upon Mark Partridge, and call'd him a treacherous, blowing-up Mollying Bitch, and threatned that they'd Massacre any body that betray'd them.

(Trial of Thomas Wright, 20 April 1726)

Molly-Cull

A man who has sex with other men. A “Cull” was “a man, a fellow, a chap.” Interestingly a “Queer Cull” was “a foolish dandy, a fop.” (see Green’s Dictionary of Slang)

Example:

He removed to Beech-lane, where he likewise kept Rooms for the Entertainment of the Molly-Culls, and sold Ale as he did at his other House.

 (Trial of Thomas Wright, 20 April 1726)

Queen

A molly (esp. a promiscuous one). Possibly derived from Middle English “quean” meaning “a bold or impudent woman; a hussy; spec. a prostitute.” (see OED)

Example:

Where have you been you saucy Queen?

(Hell Upon Earth, 1729)

Story, to do the

Sex

Example:

Ned solicited me to do the Story, and would fain have had me to have gone into the Necessary-House with him, for he said, he could not rest till he had enjoy'd me.

(Trial of George Kedger, April 1726)

Trade (esp. unnatural trade)

Sex

Example:

Let the Fops of the Town upbraid

Us, for an unnatural Trade,

We value not Man nor Maid;

But among our own selves we'll be free,

But among, &c.

(But Among Our Own Selves, 1728)

Wedding Night

Sex

Example:

Ned, says he, there's a Country Gentleman of my Acquaintance, just come to Town, and if you'll give him a Wedding Night, he'll pay you very handsomely.

(Trial of George Whittle, April 1726)

General Slang

There were also some general 18th century slang terms that weren’t unique to mollies but was used by them.

Caterwauling

To behave amorously or lasciviously.

Example:

Ah! you bold Pullet, where have you been a catterwauling all this Nigh? I assure you, Priscilla, I've been Hunting High and Low for you, with a heavy Heart which you know is ever at your Command, therefore we'll now go to Bed at some Inn, and Kiss and Coo away the time till Morning as true Lovers ought to do.

(Footpads and Sodomites, 1719)

Make Love

To “pay amorous attention; to court, woo” (see OED)

Example:

Mrs. Clap's House was notorious for being a Molly-House. - In order to detect some that frequented it, I have been there several Times, and seen 20 or 30 of 'em together, making Love, as they call'd it, in a very indecent Manner.

(Trial of Gabriel Lawrence, 20 April, 1726)

Pick Up

To strike up a (usually casual) sexual relationship with someone. “Originally: to engage the sexual services of (a prostitute, etc.)” (see OED)

Example:

I pick'd up two Men, who had no Money, but however they proved to be my old Acquaintance, and very good Gentlewomen they were, One of them has been transported for counterfeiting Masquerade Tickets; and t'other went to the Masquerade in a Velvet Domine, and pick'd up an old Gentleman, and went to Bed with him,

(Trial of Thomas Gordon, 5 July 1732)

Sweet-Heart

A romantic/sexual partner.

Example:

Gregory Turner, who commonly chose me for his Sweet-heart.

(Trial of Thomas Wright April 1726)

Swive

Sex

Example:

We'll kiss and we'll Sw[iv]e,

Behind we will drive,

And we will contrive

New Ways for Lechery,

New Ways, &c.

(But Among Our Own Selves, 1728)

Slang About Mollies

Its unclear if these were used by mollies or simply about them. Some of these are clearly offensive in nature however some may have been used in a more positive or neutral way.

Agent

The top in anal sex

Example:

It is well known that there must be two Parties in this Crime; the Pathick and the Agent; both equally guilty.

(William Pulteney, A Proper Reply to a Late Scurrilous Libel; Intitled, Sedition and Defamation Display’d, 1731)

Back Gammon Player

Defined by The Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) as “a sodomite.”

Usher, or Gentleman of the Back Door

Defined by The Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) as “a sodomite.”

Bud Sallogh, Shitten P-ck

Defined by The Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) as “an Irish appellation for a sodomite.”

Buggeranto

Offensive term for someone who engages in buggery.

Example:

We then proceeded and went on to the Change, turn’d to the Right, and Jostled in amongst a parcel of Swarthy Buggerantoes, Preternatural Fornicators, as my Friend call’d them, who would Ogle a Hand­some Young Man with as much Lust, as a True-bred English Whoremaster would gaze upon a Beautiful Virgin.

(The London Spy, part III, published 1703)

Butterfly

Norton suggests it could be “slang for catamite” (p223)

Example:

Satire or Sense alas! can Sporus feel? Who breaks a Butterfly upon a Wheel? Yet let me flap this Bug with gilded Wings, This painted Child of Dirt that stinks and stings.

(Alexander Pope, An Epistle from Mr Pope to Dr Arbuthnot, 1735)

Catamite

The younger partner in a male-male sexual relationship, or more generally a boy or young man who has sex with men. Sometimes used as synonym for pathic. 

Example:

Another Discovery has been made among those infamous Monsters call'd Sodomites, last Saturday, at the Three Black Birds on Temple Backs, where two of those Catamites, one a Baker in St. Phillip's, and the other a Cloth Shearer in Temple-Street, were seen in a Caterwauling Posture in a Room of the House by the Fire-side; but were routed by the People, and narrowly escaped being mobbed. They have both disappeared.

(Ipswich Journal, 8 July 1732)

Gomorrean

Another term for men who had sex with men. Like the more common sodomite it comes from the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

In a Word, he is the completest Gomorrean that has been met with for some Time; tho from some papers found in his Pocket, it is no less certain than shocking, that there are many Clubs of these Animals now in Town, who, it is hoped, will soon be exposed to publick View.

(The London Chronicle 4 - 6 Jan 1757)

Madge Cull

Another word for a molly.

Rictor Norton explains that by “the last quarter of the eighteenth century” the term madge cull was used as well as molly. (p184) It comes from a combination of “Madge” a slang term for “the female genitals” and “Cull” slang for “a man, a fellow, a chap.” (see Green’s Dictionary of Slang)

A New Dictionary of all the Cant and Flash Languages (1795) defines “Madge” as “a sodomite” and “Madge Cull” as “a buggerer.”

Madge Cove

Defined by A New Dictionary of all the Cant and Flash Languages (1795) as “a keeper of a house for buggerers.”

Patapouf

Norton suggest this was a synonym for “catamite”. The word was used by William Beckford in 1811; “I would not fly from a nice York patapouf if Providence sent him to me.” (Norton p225) Possibly the etymological root of “pouf”.

Pathic or Pathick

The bottom in anal sex

Example:

It is well known that there must be two Parties in this Crime; the Pathick and the Agent; both equally guilty.

(William Pulteney, A Proper Reply to a Late Scurrilous Libel; Intitled, Sedition and Defamation Display’d, 1731)

Patient

The bottom in anal sex

Example

Is there any reason for supposing it to be a fixed one? Between persons of the same age actuated by the same incomprehensible desires would not the parts they took in the business be convertible? Would not the patient be the agent in his turn?

(Jeremy Bentham, Offences Against One's Self, c.1785)

Windward Passage

Defined by The Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) as follows “one who uses or navigates the windward passage, a sodomite.”

[starrysharks]

winter assassin outfit

[bruciemilf]

One of my biggest pet peeves is the justice league being labelled as " The Avengers of DC" and its like. No? The avengers are law enforcement. The Justice League are volunteers

[torchstelechos]

I love that In Stars and Time gives the nonconsensual kiss a proper horrified reaction, by the way. Most media where a character can kiss someone out of no where either make it a funny thing or the "romantic" thing, but here Siffrin kisses without permission out of no where and Isabeau reacts correctly! He pushed them away! Because thats surprising, and fucked up to do to someone with no lead up and no permission! Isabeau had no context, and at the time when the kiss happened, was under the impression that Siffrin didn't like touch which can have a variety of horrible reasons for it. Not only that but... We don't know what face Siffrin was pulling and I don't think it was a nice one. Which, again, means that we don't have all the context either! This is a horrible event that has horrible consequences and I love that it does. Because it's something that is horrible and objectively one of the worst things Siffrin did to one of the others in the loops, so I'm just!!! So excited it had bad consequences!!!

[fumifooms]

his flower...

Aww, from the signing doodle board and the Adventurer’s Bible long illustration… He likes flowers he likes shells, just a guy and his flower he picked from the side of the road, what’s not to love. Nature lover boy…

[gummi-ships]

Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth by Sleep - A Fragmentary Passage - Depths of Darkness

[littlebittyhollowbugs]

Time to think about how alone the pale king was when he died. He had lost everything. His kingdom yes, but even his closest relationships.

His trusted friends, who became dreamers, gave up their lives and all for a hopeless cause. His wife was driven away by her guilt and her grief. His child who he had learned to love, he sacrificed for nothing.

Almost every character that we know of who had a personal relationship with PK had either been sacrificed or had left him.

And of course all of it was his own doing. (At least largely his own doing.)

Still he sat completely alone in that throne room when he died there.

[cator99]

out of curiosity, would you consider yourself butch?

used to be a blonde underweight twink and now I'm a based jock still got the chanel bag and the sick albeit matured mind of a suckpig to prove it so I'm gonna let you decide whether you wanna call me that word just cuz I got a pussy and short hair. I promise you that there have been enough advancements made in the art of lesbian sexual dynamics in the past 50 years to broaden the vocabulary used to describe the plethora of types of masculine females.

[thebestusernamepossible]

I think a really underrated character duo in gravity falls is Dipper and Stan. Like one, I think they are way more similar than people give them credit for. Like Dipper is definitely the one who feels like the ‘inferior’ twin (internally on his part), something reflected in Stan. Also Dipper is generally pretty cunning and willing to throw punches in a Stan-way, you can see Stan rubbing off on him as the show progresses. Dipper in the Stan costume, and that one scene where Stan and Dipper both cross their fingers at the same time for the same promise, both live in my head rent free. In my heart of hearts I think Dipper picks up a bit of Stans con-man tricks in the future (and Mabel goes on some bonding missions w/ Ford, but this post isn’t abt them). Also I just want to say I bet Dipper reminded Stan of a young Ford and that informed some of their early dynamic. Anyway bye just needed this brainworm out

[dxxtruction]

Louis' "You're boring!" Could mean so many things, but I think what's most apparent about that line is that Armand takes no initiative just for himself. He's not really anybody, because he never goes out and finds himself or gets attached to anyone but Louis. Without Louis as his guide he's literally just sitting on a couch picking lint! That's the thing.

He orbits constantly around what would make Louis happy, and never really fully going what would make me happy? Ultimately that drive to please Louis is what drives him to torturing Daniel, not so much that he'd care to just do it. Ultimately, not giving proper care to Louis is just a way to make sure Louis knows he has to orbit around him as well, with shoving Lestat onto him just that other nail on the coffin. So, even if he fails to figure out how to make Louis happy with him, he still knows what Armand is good for, and better than.

That dependency is what drives Armand's abuse. It really just comes down to that. Armand doesn't even realize how suffocated he is by his own dependency. This is just how life is to him. (It shouldn't be lost either that dependency is a theme considering this episode also deals with addiction).

Daniel's fascinating because he's just so driven to be somebody. He's largely independent, he seeks things because he wants them. It's his drug to poke and prod at all the things that he shouldn't. Daniel's exciting because he lets Louis in to something different, lets him in to all this potential in another person that he can also do the same with for himself. It's a real connection. A two way street. It's easy to tell how Armand can be smothering then because he's never introducing him to anything really new, and most the ways both of them connect are all painful and traumatic. It's never just fun because there's always that layer of that pain. Fun died with Claudia.

50 years on they've gotten to a lot better place, both of them, but it's still that same shit. No seriously, "How is this any different from last time, Louis?"

Well... Because Armand's going to be, at the very least, making one [1] decision only for himself - and that's to hold power over Daniel's life. Fucking sick foreshadowing.

They aren't driving each other to the brink anymore but "The vampire is bored" STILL. Maybe it's even worse, despite being in better places, because Louis' sort of just been defeated by it. (I mean, can he even really leave this either?). He's accepting the dependancy cause he kind of has to. He'd literally ended up letting all the enjoyment be up where he can't reach [The book shelves]. Armand so desperately wants Louis happiness but what really ends up happening is that Louis ends up having to give Armand all his own. He's got no one or anything else to get it from. But like an iPad and an over the top eating ritual. Two extremes of what's just more lint picking.

This whole relationship is one I find just tragic inside and out. You have to just pity it, really. There's ways in which you can find yourself feeling bad for both of them. But you can only really be mad at Armand for any of it. Armand, who isn't even 'free' in any sense, having so little concept of his own independence, but is at the same time so controlling over other's. It's a tragic cycle. It's an infuriating one.

Louis at least has the mind to know when enough is enough. If just needing that extra push to get there. Armand's too scared of it being over to even try.

[viiinz]

autism be damned my boy can do calligraphy and knows a lot about capital punishment

[welcometogrouchland]

Batman #149 by chip zdarsky is mostly unremarkable, but I'm really fascinated by how it makes a great case for 'good' endings not saving 'bad' stories*. Because there's a lot of interesting concepts in this issue (bruce having to deal with his rapidly aging and decaying clone making him think about his own life, re-establishing a 'nest' so to speak for his family after pushing them away, etc) but bc of the OOC slog that came before it, almost every moment w/ the batfamily comes off as unearned and disingenuous imo.

Like, everything with Damian is the perfect example in this. Because in isolation it's...fine. admittedly it's a missed opportunity to not go deeper into how Damian would feel about a clone of his dad who tried to kill considering Damian's relationships with clones of himself (the heretic rejects and respawn) or with former enemies who wanted him dead but who were manipulated and/or brainwashed (like suren and maya).

Zdarsky doesn't go into any of this but you could maybe excuse it as the issue not being about Damian. However, coupled with the previous bizarre characterizations of Damian in 147 and 148, it ends up not being fine- instead it starts to feel...icky how Damian (who, despite often being drawn and written as white, will never have his connection to the non-white al ghuls forgotten and will always be effected by racism even when not portrayed as a poc) is constantly written as overly violent, uncaring and narrow minded in this run. Coupled w/ trying to recanonize the morrison origin for Damian it's like. OH this is badly written and laden with subtle bigotry, sick**

That's me going into detail on it with Damian but it's applicable to other things in this issue- the way Cass, Steph and Duke have all been ignored or turned into jobbers makes their inclusion in the 'family' here feel hollow instead of satisfying. Bruce proclaiming that Zur was still a part of him and he needs to accept responsibility for his actions (when it means taking in clone son) wrings hollow when just last issue zdarsky was bending over backwards to separate Bruce and Zur bc otherwise the Jason thing would get really awkward. Ends are achieved through means that feel hollow or strange. I'm at my destination but damn why'd the bus have to do all that???

I only really have opinions on this latest arc of zdarskys Batman bc it's the one I've read the closest (bc I'm a hater, masochist and avid follower of even the bad damian storylines) but it's not saying great things.

Bc zdarsky can do one thing good in this book, and it's write Bruce and Tim. And yet this entire story, whether of his own volition or editorial mandate, includes other characters who aren't Bruce and Tim, the fabric starts to unravel in very telling ways.

(p.s, I think pennyworth manor is an interesting idea but I feel like in execution it's just gonna be 'bruce living in a house haunted by the memory of the people he couldn't save' but with a different dead guy this time. Illusion of change and whatnot)

*whether or not the ending is good is up to you ofc, as is your opinion on the proceeding arc! I saw some ppl complain that the ending was too "WFA" for them, which I get even if I dont think it'll literally be the same premise. If anything it's probably a lead into the new tec run. Likewise many ppl who aren't in the weeds of Damian and Jason characterization liked the previous arc! But I have my opinions and rest my case before the bench

**disclaimer, I'm white and portrayals of bigotry in comics are complicated and subjective, but I am basing my point here off what other poc comic fans on socmed have been saying about 149. Also the "sick" is sarcasm incase that wasn't obvious

[bloomingbluebell]

since playing twilight princess again i cannot get behind the lu fandom characterization of twilight and wild i'm sorry. like i think twilight would be an overprotective big brother figure towards wild, absolutely. but wild doesn't take that sitting down. he doesn't like being coddled, and it's pretty clear (side note: i do really appreciate the analysis posts about wars and how hard he's been on wild potentially pushing wild closer and closer to a rather big memory. you can sort of see how twilight is not happy with how warriors is acting, but he's not saying anything right now. probably because it's not his place to, and also probably because wild wouldn't want him to right now).

i think that twilight and wild have a very different relationship to what most of the lu fandom thinks. they're close - that much is obvious from how they react when the other is hurt, and how twilight pushed through the rest to get to wild during the memories comic. but i think that a lot of the time, it feels like wild only exists around twilight, or he can't be left without twi otherwise he'll "do something stupid" or whatever. wild doesn't exactly appreciate twi's protectiveness or his advice all of the time, but he still looks up to twilight. despite whatever went down when they first met, wild worked to gain twi's trust in order for them to be so close. they're equals - just like the rest of the chain are equals. and yes, wild does a fair amount of dumb things and he's impulsive about it, but i would like to argue that twilight also does a fair amount of dumb things (in game and in comic)

(i think it also kinda feeds in to how wild is sort of infantilized by the fanbase. he's already not exactly trusted by the rest of the chain (legend especially, for some reason), and i think i'd like to explore that and how his relationship with legend formed. they seem to think he's sort of a loose cannon, especially after the previous arcs. wild hasn't seemed to realize it yet, but i do think something is coming, especially with him and warriors)

[lover-of-mine]

Okay, but I've been thinking about this post and all the ways the lightning is for Eddie what the wells was for Buck but right now is downing on me just how similar the circumstances are. It's just a regular old day on the job. Both Eddie and Buck volunteered in to the rescue. Buck has Eddie's line on the well and Eddie has Buck's during that fire. The literal rain at night aspect of it all. The danger being triggered by lightning. The team as audience. The lack of care about their own well-being while trying to reach the other. The way they are both screaming the other's name as they do something that's totally not the logical thing to do at that moment, since there's no way Buck can dig enough to get to Eddie by hand and there's no way Eddie can defy gravity and pull Buck up to him. The helplessness of the way that both of them have to let someone else do something, with Eddie having to lower Buck to Bobby and Buck accepting he needs to wait and use the help of the rest of the LAFD to find Eddie. There's also things like Eddie being the first thing Buck remembers in the coma dream and Buck being in the first memory in Eddie's I need to keep fighting montage. There's also this. The helpless look while Bobby screams out instructions.

And we know the well is pivotal for Eddie in the whole buddie of things since the well triggers the will so Eddie figured something out down there and Buck has to learn something with the lightning as well, so patterns? Maybe?

[dayurno]

so kevin was the one who bought jean the magnets and postcards. as souvenirs.

i fear we, the kevjean nation, may not survive this.

kevin used to write him messages and memories and they ruined it

[ty-bayonet-betteridge]

3l!grian is frequently depicted as a tragic figure and sometimes i wonder if we even watched the same series