#we should try and revive the fandom tbh

[joyfulsoda]

Do y'all think that during the Christmas after the radio competition, Wayne is invited to eat with his family (he's a bit nervous to go, but Nick encourages him and ends up also getting invited because Ms. Wright is delighted that Wayne found somewhere to stay) and that Wayne and she get to talk things out in private.

That they come to the conclusion that everyone involved is much happier with them separated, with Wayne coming to visit the kids, of course.

And that although they loved each other at one point, sometimes things don't end up just like they were before, but that's okay because they're both finding new ways to love and other people to show their love to.

And that they can still totally be friends. They just want the kids to be happy, for themselves to be happy, and for the other person to be happy. Yes, this means that they can get coffee every Sunday at noon after she and the kids are out of church.

And that when they walk back into the room, they find that Nick is teaching the kids about the artist of a record that they had put on to play in the background. Wayne cracks a joke that that's the first time he's seen him smile while teaching, and Nick snaps back that "you've never seen me teach before," followed by him beginning to tell Wayne to piss off, but cutting himself off after getting a very stern stare from both parents.

And that while Wayne tucks the kids snugly into bed, giving them three forehead kisses each and recalling their favorite bedtime stories from memory, Nick and Ms. Wright sit quietly. She breaks the ice, though, and asks what the stupidest thing Wayne ever did when they were younger was.

And that he isn't quite sure how to answer that question, given the answer involves a fling just after their high school graduation and an act that would probably get the both of them shunned from society. (Where do you think that line in I Know A Guy came from?)

And that she reads him like an open fucking book (his face flushes like a tomato) and says it's okay.

And that she, after a few moments of silence, asks him to comfort Wayne now that he spends much more time with him, with an approving, knowing sparkle in her eye and a small coy smile.

And that after Wayne comes back to the both of them that they drink together and laugh until it's way too late, and Nick and Wayne stumble out of the door, trying not to slip on the ice lurking along every block to their place.

And that Wayne tries *quite* hard to get Nick to wear his scarf, that "you're going to catch a cold,"

"I'm not, Wayne,"

"Famous last words."

And that they end up holding each end with one hand, Wayne satisfied with the outcome in his tipsiness and Nick glad that his hand is a little warmer. Maybe he should have worn the scarf, but it would be too awkward now to take it, and he is a very proud person.

And when they get through the door, they're practically falling over each other while trying to take their shoes off to the point where they get rapidly-melting slush *everywhere* and Wayne stares at the mess, wanting to clean it up, but is able to tell himself to wait until he makes sure Nick gets to bed.

And that he does, in fact, make sure Nick gets to bed before allowing himself to get out a simple mop to sop up the water. As he works, though, Nick tells him to go to bed. He doesn't, unsurprisingly, and is promptly guided to the couch he sleeps on and is asked in an uncharacteristically gentle voice to "Please let yourself relax."

And that he stares in both confusion and awe while Nick quickly goes and finishes cleaning before he can say anything. Nick says his present to Wayne starts tomorrow, and it's that Wayne gets the entire day to not do any cleaning (aside from his rituals, of course) and that Nick will take care of anything.

And that Wayne is flattered, knowing full well it's because Nick isn't able to afford an actual gift.

And that when they say good night to each other for real this time, that there's a little bit of the energy in their eyes that they had the day just after graduation, but with much more sincerity and clarity, despite the alcohol clouding their judgement.

And that things are good and right.

And that everyone gets the happy ending that they deserve.

[simplydnp]

hey there!

I kind of consider you the resident dnp expert (at least in dnp culture) so I wanted your opinion on a question that's been building for a while now.

What are the boundaries for dnp now?

There are so many things that I feel have changed even in the last four years: writing smutty rpf was Gross and Weird, along with art along that line, speculating about their relationship was ABSOLUTELY a no-go, all things that I see happening on Tumblr now. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing!! I'm just acknowledging things have changed over time. They're different people now and so are we, and the "we know you know" era is lots of fun.

I was browsing reddit today (bad idea, do not recommend) and came across a post from a new Phannie asking if DnP were in a relationship. And while I agree that we cannot say for absolute certain that they are, the responses had a VERY different vibe than on here, emphasizing how bad the speculation was (true) and essentially saying "don't even think about that, just enjoy their content." (or something to that extent.)

Which... is very different from this here website in which we joke about them being horney for each other constantly lmao.

Being a very rules-driven person, I like expectations to be made abundantly clear for pretty much everything. So that's why I want to ask: Is there a line here? Are we crossing that line? How defined is that line? (All of this, of course, I recognize is your opinion and yours alone, and if this is posted I encourage anyone else to share their two-cents in a respectful way.)

Obviously, trying to find out where they live/things like that is very clearly crossing a boundary. But is there some sort of limit or boundary I (and tbh the rest of the phandom), in your opinion, should be keeping in mind?

thanks xx

hi!

'resident expert' is a hefty title, i'm just here trying my best!

'what are the boundaries for dnp now?' is really a great question. cause the thing is, we used to know. there used to be a fairly well-defined and mostly agreed upon line, and ever since the dapg revival in particular, the line keeps moving.

i'll be honest, i never really saw phanfic as rpf, even though it is. my stance on phanfic is the same as dnps: it's a beautiful expression of art and creativity and is so, so important. they've always been pro-fic (even though we subjected them to some absolutely horrific crack fics), so i don't think 'smutty' fic has ever been gross or too far. they've given their blessing, and, as the conversation has been in fandom communities the last few years, rpf isn't 'for' the people in them, it's for the fans. so i digress.

art is much the same way. they love art! they even included art of them kissing in a tumblr tag video back in the day, so to say that's not allowed especially after they're out is kind of crazy to me.

i think the line with stuff like that was showing it directly to dnp--tagging them in explicit stuff, that kind of thing. but creating it? go for it! it's always been a green light. (i think fans have previously overpoliced this and we lost a lot of great fic, art, and community members over it)

browsing reddit is always a Choice. i've never participated on dnp reddit before but i am aware that it is an entirely different space than here. something that's important, i think (and i think you think this too as you're asking about them), is to respect the fandom rules of the place you partcipate in. tumblr is generally one of the most phan-positive places on the internet, especially publicly facing. we make a lot of relationship jokes, particularly because we run on the assumption it's already true, based on what they've both said publicly (mostly dan).

i won't comment on reddit specifically just because i'm not a part of the community there, but the speculation about dnp online was a Lot for a long time. but the worst part of it was the stalking, the digging into personal lives, the contacting family members--that is what was bad. dnp have always had a connection--and, honestly, they kind of love flexing it and kind of always have. they absolutely play into things now, but they certainly did even way before coming out too. i think a certain level of speculation was to be expected, especially in that era of online fandom. but it wasn't just the 'teenage girls' who cared, the media did too, and so did many others.

i think one of the biggest differences now is 1 the awareness of 'our' past and trying to make up for it, and 2 the broader societal conversations about parasocial relationships.

you see this reflected on the snippets ive seen from dnp reddit and dnp twitter. they tend to be Very 'cautious' about the words they say, often undercutting perfectly reasonable statements with 'but whatever their relationship is'. on one hand, they don't want to cross a line, and i can respect that. on the other hand... it's 2024 babes. they just put out merch of them holding hands. dan's directly, intentionally, and explicitly called phil a bottom on dapg. they reacted to all of the pinofs, made jokes about 'theyre touching', and even joked about the tackle being 'wrestling 👀'. dan posted half-naked catboy pics and showed us phil was taking them. the 'watch your step babygirl' tweet & their reactions to it. phil is credited in WAD. they're making threesome jokes about themselves as a unit. i could go on and on.

to me, there's a few things that have 'moved the line' for us, so to speak.

1 - DAPG returning. for the last few years they specifically were not a duo (for projects) anymore. (and no, not because they hated each other). they just weren't. they wanted to focus on their goals and projects. they didn't have to resurrect dapg, but they chose to. marketing and money aside, they knew that if this went over well, it would well and truly revive the 'dan and phil' brand again. it would be specifically returning to being a duo in the public eye. (however they've also fully embraced this in all aspects, including merch, videos, and general attitude)

2 - pinof reacts. even though they'd been out since 2019, we hadn't had regular joint content from them since before that, therefore, while they had become more comfortable with themselves and their 'outness', we hadn't (in terms of them making explicit gay jokes together). so i really think dnp had to de-fang a lot of the 'theyre touching' of it all, because we didn't really know where we stood on it anymore. i think they succeeded, too. we couldn't be here, with the content of the last 3 months, without them tackling it head on (well, as head on as they're want to do).

3 - dapc. genuinely another big shift. they did this for the real fans. purely a passion project, and a specific choice in doing the handhold. they know what we're like. and this wasn't a brief, unplanned, unscripted moment. it's a specifically blocked out scene. they know it's opening a door, and they chose to. this is doubled by the fucking iconic merch selling, and furthered by phil's twitter likes of arguably romantic phanart, and then dan's full straddle like.

even throughout the current 6 months of revival, the line has moved. i don't know where it will settle. dnp keep moving it, in my opinion, and, genuinely, i don't think it's going to leave much to the imagination. as you say, obviously not the stalking or the contacting, but beyond that? especially here on tumblr? i wouldn't get too worried. obviously people will have their opinions, but as long as you're generally respectful and recognize that humans will see your posts and humans interact with them, i think you're good.

my rule of thumb is anything they intentionally put on the table, we can joke about or at the same level. but in terms of art/fic? go off, live your dreams. dan and phil would want you to.

[pommunist]

i honestly think that the qsmp is experiencing a quiet and slow death. like qsmp related stuff barely comes across my dash anymore (and i follow hundreds of mcyt blogs, back when things actually happened my entire dash would just be qsmp fanwork and liveblogging).

like sure the server is still open (not that i think it should be) but i barely see anyone talking about it anymore. the most i see is announcements for some new event thats supposed to revive the server and then i maybe see 3 or 4 posts about it the day of?

theres also way less new fanart being posted, the majority of the fanart i see is either a) shipping art that isnt set in any specific time (or is set during the peak ship era), b) art about one of the old events/plotlines, or c) pure egg art also with no specific time setting. there is relatively no fanart that is solely about the new events.

they keep trying to wave events in front of the jaded fans like "hey!!! new event! you want more events yeah? you guys used to love events :(" as if we dont see it as the distraction from their workplace abuse that it is

tbh i hate to see it happen but it’s what you get when you mix mistreatment of your workers with terrible pr management like….

first you have everyone who stopped supporting it when they learnt of the admin’s working conditions. already by this point, and because it’s been two months and no signs of betterment a big chunk of the fandom has dropped qsmp.

then you also lose people who were really attached to the eggs, especially if their favorite hasn’t came back or won’t come back at all.

and then you also lose people who were in for story and lore because they just learned that everything they had theorised about for months was for nothing because while the writers were trying their best the higher ups had no idea where the plot was going + ccs couldn’t be involved in the big storyline

and even if all of that wasn’t enough to make you leave, you might just drop it because your cc doesn’t log on anymore, or because the fandom is dying/dead (especially if you speak a language that massively left the project)

😀👍 just saw the tweet announcing the tzc murder mystery event and im so bitter i’ve waited like 9 months for it to happen but to see it happen in these conditions…. maybe the real murders that took place was the self sabotaging of qsmp and all these massacred workers rights

tldr qstudios completely fumbled the bag and that’s on them 100% L+ratio or whatever but it still sucks to see the state of qsmp rn

[cdroloisms]

I still think saying that ctommy deserved to be tortured and beating him up is odd considering the framing of the scene but I've been reminded by others that c!dream wasn't suddenly void of empathy and regret in the scene and it's not like c!tommy was jesus

i get that--but it's important to recognize that in the scene, the one who is being above and beyond empathetic and trying to get c!dream to open up is c!tommy, and the one who is rejecting the truth in favor for the lie is c!dream. which is kind of the exact roles that they should embody, here. notice how c!dream fights c!tommy on the idea that he's not always been the villain--c!dream does get to a point where he's able to have a civil conversation with c!tommy by the very end, yes, but that was not the case when the finale streams started. c!dream in the finale might not have been actively pursuing c!tommy, but he by no means had let go of the massive goddamn grudge he had against this guy and they were still very much antagonistic towards each other. to be honest, c!dream calling exile torture and justifying it with "you deserved it" isn't actually what i'd consider something that makes him like. less understandable in this scene? c!dream isn't just anyone with any relationship to the statement "you are being tortured, and this is because what you deserve" you know--this is literally exactly what he went through in the prison. using the same terms and justification for exile specifically, a circumstance that was obviously awful and abusive and still. not. the same intensity as the prison, i think is fair to say, objectively, i would argue more communicates a subconscious level of acknowledgement of how damn badly he fucked c!tommy up rather than a genuine belief that exile was just #deserved #fuckyoutommy. even killing c!tommy is specifically addressed in this stream as being something directly connected to c!dream's killing himself--immediately upon being revived, c!tommy tells c!dream that he can't just do that, he doesn't know how much it hurts, and c!dream's rebuttal is that he does know how much it hurts and that's the point! yes, c!dream treats c!tommy terribly in this finale stream, he kills him and says that he tortured him and he deserved it...and all of this is quite explicitly happening in connection to c!dream's pain, as well. oftentimes, c!discduo narratively is framed by the fandom as this like, "versus" relationship where one person's shitty actions and one person's pain actively detracts from the other's, right, but the exact opposite is true? c!dream is a much worse, much more evil character than c!tommy, yes, but a lot of these very intentional parallels were being drawn because in a lot of ways, they are very similar characters and the decisions they made and the ways they were hurt and reacted to their pain provides more insight to both characters, even if we only see the one--such as how c!tommy's vine covered little bunker was drawn in direct parallel to the prison crumbling around c!dream. honestly, i wasn't expecting c!dream to accept what c!tommy was saying that quickly at all--i was definitely expecting him to double down. the fact that c!dream was willing to come to an understanding with c!tommy at all speaks volumes on his character and how badly he really just needed someone to talk him off his tower, tbh--i don't think his initial rejection of it detracts at all from the final understanding. c!dream definitely needed to fight the truth, because that hammers in how deeply he'd internalized the L'manburg Story and the idea of dream-as-villain and how much his self-identity had ended up tied into the Plan and Villain and Evil of it all, and his willingness to reach for it at the very end despite all of that is the reframing that the finale stream was meant to provide

[aceofheartzzz]

hiiiiiii

i heard you (and i quote) peer-reviewed the piggy headcanons post i made :3

i come bearing an Offer

i, along with @urlocalweirdperson1232 have been trying to revive the piggy fandom here on tumblr for a few weeks now

so far we got @afriendofours, @nymph0ny, @fishiiboi, @sobeksewerrat, and @bluexjayy

today we did also just get @an-theduckin and @furballmeowzerz too and you’re like. the third new person for the day !! that’s kinda wild tbh

anyways you should friend me on roblox, what’s your username? mine’s just my tumblr url :3

Hi!! That’s me!

My URL is Leftythebean or my nickname is Uzi_Doorman :D

[theimpossiblescheme]

Hello i have heard abt ur own fanmade non rep of cats and tbh I LOVE IT LIKE THE SETS AND NUMBERS and also i was wondering on how would you tackle growltiger in the number like what elements are you gonna put?

Not gonna lie to you... I wouldn't. I don't think you can salvage "Growltiger's Last Stand" as it exists right now--it's a racist, orientalist mess that slows the show to a crawl. And I've seen productions try to fix it, but there are way too many issues baked into the song itself. I've seen productions entirely cut the entrance of the Siamese fleet... while including the lines about Growltiger being especially prejudiced against Persian and Siamese cats. I've seen productions make Growltiger and Griddlebone more of a happy couple on equal footing... while engaging in some rather gross Madame Butterfly-esque imagery for Griddlebone and keeping the rest of the Siamese cats as a faceless hoard. I've seen productions change the Siamese fleet to a different group entirely... while keeping the song's original, generalized "Asian" underscore during those parts. At this point, you would have to write a wholly original song that has nothing to do with any of T.S. Eliot's existing work (and I'm only half-joking when I say I'd be okay with that--the less of that man's horrible xenophobia breaches containment, the better).

The route I would take is the same one the Broadway revival and subsequent tours took--give "The Pekes and the Pollicles" (with the revised lyrics, natch) to Gus so he can play the Rumpus Cat and relive his glory days that way. I would, however, cut Gus's personal involvement in the number down to just the introduction and, of course, his appearance as the Rumpus Cat. The rest of the song traditionally belongs to Munkustrap, so I'd want to see more of him in harried stage manager mode, trying to make everyone behave themselves for Gus's sake. There would still be the customary forgetting of lines, messing up blocking, and Tugger causing extra trouble, but in the end it all pulls together as a tribute to Gus.

I know there are a lot of people in the fandom who still latch onto the Growltiger number, but I truly don't believe there's a way to make it not offensive beyond just completely writing a new song about pirate cats. There comes a point during revisions and different directorial choices that you have to realize you're at war with the text itself and you need to divest from that text entirely. And since the show itself has come up with a perfectly serviceable alternative, I think we should embrace it. It's a lot less work changing a few words than rewriting a song from scratch, after all.

[loveinterestcastiel]

honestly at this point jensen can say anything and his words will still get twisted, which tbh is probably part of the reason he keeps his answers so neutral in the first place, esp on solo panels with no one else to diffuse any tension (and also because he's an actor not a writer and at least in the past few years has said he doesn't want to tell people how to interpret a story, which to me seems fair enough), sucky position to be in though

this is true and to be honest it makes me kind of mad! there has been a very interesting development since the show ended where because we no longer receive new show content, the onus of that burden to fulfill fandom content wants/needs has fallen on the actors rather than writers and the show itself. i imagine the pressure is quite stressful when one lone actor is trying to keep everyone happy.

the obvious solution in my opinion is reboot/revival Now, and stop asking actors to validate your headcanon or to explain clear text to crowds of fans who may or may not be hostile

obviously that won’t happen, i can’t control what people ask j2m but it would be nice if everyone could take a chill pill lol cons should not be so high stakes!! they’re meant to be fun gatherings of likeminded people who want to celebrate the legacy of supernatural. it’s not about one upping other ships or forcing a specific opinion out of the actors, especially when those answers might spoil a potential upcoming plotline

again just my opinion :)

[ask-shu-todoroki]

Here's your permission to talk about your MLP character hyperfixations

go on now

Do I just rattle off who's on my mind right now? Well, okay, lemme think... XD

King Sombra - Currently the most pressing hyperfixation at the moment because I want to write a redemption arc for him. I honestly think he was done dirty by the series and he should've been given the Discord treatment instead of being revived in Season 9 only to be killed off. Kind of a waste, don't you think? Also he's extremely hot and I cannot help but simp for his majesty aaaaa

No seriously look at him and tell me if you're a man you don't immediately question your sexuality

Soarin - He just has a really cool design and looks like a really cool and chill dude. Can do no wrong and his voice is really cool too. Kind of gives off California surfer dude vibes and although he's second-in-command he's way more chill than Spitfire. I wish he had more speaking roles tbh because we just need more of this man instead of him being a weird side/background character hybrid. Like people know who he is but he only speaks in like, three episodes???

Thunderlane - Okay, he's a background stallion and no one really cares about him and his brother Rumble and I didn't either until "Marks and Recreation." Like, he's a talented flyer but he can also cook? Where has this guy been all my life? His design is awesome and he looks like he'd be a confident boss type but from what I saw of him he's just as sweet as Soarin which is why they belong together don't @ me Idk how these people get his voice down perfectly but his voice fits so well aaaaa

Help his face in this image, just, gay panic

Shining Armor - He's like the only major male character in the series that appears frequently and I'm not mad at it, literally best husband and he probably speaks for all new fathers when he looks like he's losing his sanity in The Crystalling. Wait, does that make him a DILF???

Braeburn - He's not so much in my thoughts as other stallions but maybe he should, like he's a really cool and down to earth character and I can see why so many people in the fandom write him. Basically a Texas cowboy but ponified? How can you not like him hrrrr

Thorax - THE CINNAMON ROLLEST CINNAMON ROLL THERE EVER WAS

No really he's so precious and needs to be protected, can literally do no wrong, he helped take down his own queen like what an icon. He also never gave up on his brother who was kind of being a jerk to him and he's also the only leader who didn't get angry at Neighsay for being a racist. Definition of gentle giant in his metamorphized form

Sunburst - Initially I was kind of "eh" about him when he made his debut but I grew to like him as he made more appearances in the series. Probably the character who I can connect the most with, being socially awkward, wears glasses, and also smart? I can connect with him on a personal level and his wizard vibes despite not actually being a wizard are to die for aaaaa

Flash Sentry - Okay, hear me out, hear me out! I know no one likes him in the fandom but he genuinely seems like a nice dude, if his human form is anything to go by. Also we never really see what it's like to be a royal guard so why not go into more depth with him? He was supposed to play a bigger part in the series but he was axed due to the absolute vitriol that was thrown towards him from what I heard and it's really a shame.

You can't tell me he's not cute in this shot

Flash Magnus - He's as badass as he looks. No seriously he's just such a confident and awesome character that I love him so much. He also looks suspiciously similar to Flash Sentry so I have to wonder, are they related? Is Flash Sentry a descendant of Flash Magnus? Is this a possible fic idea? XD Also his red mane is just, chef's kiss

He looks like he's been through war and he's literally a living legend, what's not to love?

Rockhoof - Okay he gives me Thor vibes and Thor is hot so I think he is hot. The episode of him trying to find his place is the right mix of seriousness and comedy, like nothing in the modern world is made for someone that buff XD He and Thorax are gentle giants and I love them both pretty much, I can't choose between him and Flash as a favorite Pillar of Equestria XD

Okay after writing like a thousand words those are all of my hyperfixations at the moment when it comes to MLP, they live in my head rent free fighting for space with Cars, Planes, Mariah Carey, and Transformers

[satans-codpiece]

I was not expecting EY epilogue to be so short or come out so quickly and neither was I prepared for it. Tbh you should rename it to "How to fuck up an audience in 600 words or less" because HOLY SHIT. I knew it wasn't going to be pretty™ but did you really have to go this hard??? The 2 being all cutesy romantic on a cruise with a burning harbour literally in front of them???? THAT RAM SET ON FIRE????? The tea vendor?????? READER FEELING GUILTY AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESTRUCTION????????

And then you have the nerve to answer that other anon's ask about Ram saying I love you with "haha no he loves you but he has too many issues to admit it out loud" ONLY to then turn out the next day and use it HERE of all places is. God. You bastard-

Oh shit uh.... I kind of realized I don't really have anything laying around in the horny Ram art department (that isn't a total disaster or way, WAYYYY too self-indulgent) sooo.... may I offer you a WIP in these trying times??? Entirely SFW but I feel like it's plenty horny still, just in a different way ;) (Link in another ask again. Btw, you can post the WIP publicly if you feel like the Ramattra nation should see it. I still have no goddamn idea if I should try to revive my abandoned art blog or start a new one or if I should even commit to posting semi-regularly in the first place why are my feelings so fucking complicated on something so basic-)

OH I FEEL YA MAN, same story here, don't care about the game I care about the universe, except I left the franchise entirely ages ago only for Blizz to be like "hey you liked Zen right? Here's his hot angsty younger brother" and I'm like FFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffuck you Blizzard, and fuck me for falling for that eye and brain candy...

Heard about that "sometime in 2024" release date, THAT AIN'T IT MATEY, could be in December for all we know, I NEED it sooner- But hey, I guess Blizz's laziness means the fans can go wild???

And oooooh you say shit like this keeps you active? Guess I gotta bother you some more then :P Also NEEEEEY you an SSS+ tier writer the heckle you talking about-

HAHAH YEAH FKDJSG So my original draft of it was actually even darker, with more of Reader "waking up" on being released from their room, then spiraling and feeling guilty and only being maintained by the feeling that they have to keep Ramattra in check. So, I think this one's a bit kinder in that Reader's still feeling guilty, but it's easier for them to push away the darkness.

fjdhsgks listen! Again! My original epilogue was darker (I think I didn't have him use it, but I also don't think Reader prompted him to say it?) And to be fair it's more that he has too many issues in that moment at the end of Ch5... and he's kind of settling into accept that you do love him and want ("want") to be there with him by the epilogue... so he can choke it out sometimes.

PLEAES STTART AN ART BLOG???? HES SO FUCKING GORGEOUS???

Like, yeah idk, it certainly is... difficult to know how to engage with fandom. More than a few times I've wondered if just being in a small, dedicated discord would be a better choice (but then I'm awful at engaging with people directly, so I tend to lurk in discord servers...)

Hah, see, I completely missed Ramattra's release. I played a little bit at OW2's release, so a bit into season 1, then I just stopped playing. I don't think it was intentional quitting. But I somehow completely missed Ramattra's entire existence until I randomly started playing Overwatch again in March/April (I don't even remember why? I think the Minecraft server I was playing revealed itself to be run by morons and I was looking for a game to spend most of my time and just ended up back with Overwatch).

Only to, bam, load into a game with someone playing him and for me to immediately go "oh my god" (and also he gave me headpats and i...... I wonder if that person has any clue what they've done. but then I think most Ram players who give headpats are also Ram Enjoyers.)

LISTEN.... I DONT EVEN BELIEVE ITLL BE 2024 BC BLIZZARD BUT I HAVE TO PRETEND......

gjkhgsd You know that um. that chart that depicts "art quality vs perceived art quality over time"? to show how artists' perception of their work changes as they develop it? I feel like I'm permanently stuck in a "I'm sure my work is fine given the time I've spent working on it as a craft, but it still doesn't look/behave in the way I want it to." groove for like. at least a year.

The last time I genuinely 100% liked something I wrote was uhhhh probably in Februaryish with an unpublished DBD!Wesker/Reader WIP. (The WIP title is Boon: Wesker's Worms LOL)

[comrade-heather]

I Did Some Super Scientific Data Analysis to Determine Which of these Shows is *Statistically* the Most Niche

why these shows? bc they’re ones that I like that I thought might actually have a chance of being the most niche. want me to analyze a show or include a new metric? Let me know!

Methodology

Spotify Listens (average): How many people are listening?

I consider this to be the most important metric, since it shows interest beyond just hardcore fans interacting with fandom content or hyper-focused broadway metrics (ie BroadwayWorld and show runs). Some outliers were excluded (ie short tracks where Spotify has faulty tracking of listens).

Spotify Listens (most popular): Does this show have at least one song that is known beyond the show itself?

Some shows have a song that’s well-known in the theatre community, outside of the context of the show. I consider this to raise name recognition of the show, thus making it less “niche”

Ao3 Fics: Are fans interacting with the show?

This is the easiest way to measure total fandom output. For shows based on previous media, strictly the musical fandom was counted

Tumblr Posts (last 3 weeks): Is there an active fandom?

I did a basic search to try to estimate the total volume of posts about each show in the month of Feb so far. Tumblr is the main gathering place for most of these fandoms, plus this also captures how relevant the fandom is currently.

BroadwayWorld Articles: How much press has the show gotten?

This turned out to be a less useful metric than I’d hoped, and as such it’s weighted pretty lightly. Shows that ran on Broadway (as opposed to off-broadway) in the last 5-10 years got more press than those that didn’t. Go figure.

Number of Performances of the “Highest” Level Run: Did the show do well with a general audience? Did it stick around?

Again, this is an imperfect metric. Broadway is a wild industry, and general interest doesn’t perfectly correlate with length of run (see: Be More Chill’s Broadway run). And Carrie’s swing-and-miss Broadway run arguably makes it more famous. Weighted lightly.

Least Niche: Bonnie & Clyde (21 points)

I think we have Jeremy Jordan to thank for this one. Bonnie & Clyde far and away has the most Spotify listens, and it’s got mild fandom engagement on Ao3 and Tumblr. 

Bare: A Pop Opera (20 points)

Bare wins the award for most dedicated fandom on this list! Combine Tumblr and Ao3 activity with solid streaming numbers and Bare takes second-to-least niche. 

Bandstand (20 points)

What Bandstand lacks in Spotify listens and a Tumblr fandom it makes up for with plenty of gay fanfic and a decent 2017 Broadway run. It got pretty good press and even won a Tony (although we all know it deserved more). If you know anything from this show, it’s “Love Will Come and Find Me Again.”

Assassins (19 points)

note: I included both cast albums in the Spotify listens stat

A solid Sondheim bop that’s gotten some interest recently for its 2021 Off-Broadway revival. Major points for the existence of “Unworthy of Your Love,” which is by far the most popular song even without counting the Ben Platt cover.

Carrie (16 points)

Wins the award for "notable for sucking ass at the beginning.” There’s very little Carrie content relating to the musical specifically, and it’s dwarfed by online interest in the book and its movie adaptation. Notables from the cast album are “The World According to Chris” and “You Shine.”

Amélie (14 points)

Starring the lovely Phillipa Soo, Amélie has decent Spotify hits, and renewed interest due to the increasing popularity of the West End production. Major points for “Times are Hard for Dreamers” (which tbh is singlehandedly inflating the Spotify stats)

Most Niche: In Transit (6 points)

I can now back up my opinion with evidence that In Transit is very underrated. Written by Kristen Anderson-Lopez of Frozen fame, it’s the first acapella musical to run on Broadway (which it did for quite awhile, by this list’s standards) This could maybe be a reason why the cast recording has very few listens, and as a result there’s basically no fandom. 

TLDR: you should listen to In Transit, the Bare fandom is awesome, and lmk if you have suggestions to expand this data!

[vickyvicarious]

i hope ur ok with unprompted asks abt leverage bc today i am like this :-( because someone is posting hate on the OT3 in the OT3 tags. (not as a mistake either, they refused to use the right tags) tbh i am so so excited for the revival but this modern-day-esque toxicity is what i've been worried abt the whole time.

THE POINT OF THIS ASK: they said something that is wiggling in my brain, and i figured you may have a good perspective since i know you like the OT3 and are aware of/comment on fandom/media racism. they said the OT3 is popular because of fandom racism, because hardison is black and fandom wants to focus on the white guy (eliot). i think if this were true then people would just ship parker/eliot like ive seen people do in other fandoms not make an ot3? but wanted an opinion from another person?

Totally cool to send me unprompted asks! Whether Leverage or whatever else. And first off, sorry to see you've been experiencing nastiness in the OT3 tags. I personally never have, but maybe that's down to me not actually knowing what the commonly used tag is? I legit just found blogs to follow who post enough thiefsome content for me, and pick up more here and there, but I dunno where most people post stuff. leverage OT3? parker/hardison/eliot? hardison/parker/eliot? hitter/hacker/thief? something along those lines probably, I've found some stuff tagged under each but have no clue what the 'main' one is. (Also I came up with my own name for them and post my own stuff mostly under that so I really got no clue what most people do, haha.)

Anyway, I digress. On to your main point - well, I will give a disclaimer first. Pretty much the entire time I've been on tumblr I've mostly been in a happy fandom bubble and not even noticed a lot of the nastier discourse. Probably down to the way I pick blogs to follow and then mostly stick to my dash? But anyway, that remains true for Leverage. And in fact until I started my rewatch I was never really involved in the fandom, despite loving the show. I actually haven't read much fic yet either. So there's probably plenty going on I'm not aware of.

That being said, yeah I would agree with you that generally I think if this was racially motivated then people would just ship Parker/Eliot. I don't think people usually default to poly relationships, so I don't really think that is a good argument against one. The only exception I would say is if there's a huge trend of people shipping the three of them together, but only using Hardison as a prop for the other two. You know, if fic focuses mostly on Parker and Eliot and Hardison is just around to be supportive and not given the same level of depth, that kind of thing. However, in the fandom interpretations I have personally seen of the thiefsome, that isn't really the case. It can't hurt to be aware of trends if you do see them, but I don't think you gotta worry too much about this one.

People can be mean. Try not to let it bother you, maybe blacklist if possible (though I guess that ain't if they're intentionally using whatever the main tag is) or build your own happy dash bubble to retreat to. The people I reblog a lot are really nice if you need a starting point! ^_^

Edit - check in the comments for some other perspectives. Seems like there is a tendency to focus on Eliot more, though perhaps not in a straightforward a way as that person was saying? (I dunno what they were saying exactly though so I can't really speak to that.) Doesn't mean we should stop shipping all three but we can be more aware of how we do so, and make sure not to skimp on giving Hardison his fair share of emphasis! (Parker too obviously but you get my point.)

[burnedbyshoto]

this isn’t any hate at all but what’s ur response to this? i’m curious.

mmm well tbh I’m not sure why this needs my response because i’m one of hundred of thousands 18+ content creators within the bnha fandom who strictly doesn’t want minor interaction. but you want my opinion and my opinion is what you shall get.

in case you did not watch the tiktok linked above, i’ll give you a rundown of what it was. a person standing in front of the camera with a judging, puritan look on their face with an audio clip of children screaming-singing as the text on the screen reads:

with of course a caption reading: that’s something that will never make sense to me.

okay! so content of the video is covered! now for my opinion :)

the person is of course free to feel however it is they wish to feel (I did not look anything about about the content creator nor do I wish to so I will use gn pronouns in case) but we should all be vividly and extremely aware that I do not agree.

there’s obviously a certain type of disconnect between their thinking and my thinking. whereas they give a puritan, human right to fictional characters, I say fuck these pixels and make them anything and everything you want them to be. I will not continue fighting this battle of how fictional characters have no rights because they aren’t human. if they want to believe that these characters are somehow affected by works where they are noncon’d or killed or thrown into the ocean then that’s on them. I believe that this shit will never harm the characters because they’re fake, and so long as I warn the actual living humans who are reading my content, I am in the right.

“shouto breathed in deeply, but too deeply, and snorted a peanut, killing him instantaneously.”

OH NO! SHOUTO IS DEAD!

“shouto revived because his cock is too fat and god gave him another shot.”

oh LOL! spoke too soon! he’s alive!

how can he die and instantly revive? oh I don’t know cuz he’s not real! that’s it!

now let’s talk about adults within fandoms, especially in fandoms that garner a lot of children/less than 18 year olds attention.

imma say this while laughing because i’m sorry but minors and even adults who try to be cool fandom moms for the children have this mindset that if you say “18+ minors dni” that means immediately you have to be a porn hub central. more often than not, these accounts probably do have porn and smut and what not, but it’s not the only reason. there are some very strong and obvious adult content. drugs, alcohol, abuse, and things like marriage are very adult like topics. now i’m not trying to say that minors don’t experience these things, but when someone is simply talking about how they want to go smoke some weed or go drink, they don’t want to see minors on their page liking shit, commenting shit, or whatever.

minors have the habit of either saying they agree which is awkward as an adult or being this puritan shit that screams about how sex is bad, drugs are worse, alcohol is a sin, and how fictional characters are hurting and are in abusive and toxic relationships because you wrote or drew deku taking kacchans dick up his ass.

some adults also need to do this to protect themselves. it’s a warning that what’s on their page, what’s on their content is a clear and unmissable symbol that this isn’t for kids even if the content of the show is aimed for kids. we should all know that by the time you reach your 20’s that you’re not going to wither off and die, that you’re not going to be stuck in the kitchen or in the office, we are aware that taxes and bills don’t take years of concentration to do, and that adults whether they are 25 or 80 have hobbies and interests outside of work.

fan content is something that many people love to do. adult women have been the pioneers and trailblazers to things such as 18+ content for years. as adults, trust me when I say that we don’t want to simply write fluff and one shot romances with only a sweet soft buildup. of course there are people who do that, and that’s all good, but adults are allowed to do whatever the hell they want to with anime characters because they simply do not exist.

I have a major lady boner for todoroki shouto, midoriya izuku, and bakugou katsuki all three of which are technically minors within their universe, so you will hear me once more say that I am not within their universe, they are not human, therefore my works do not and will never hurt them. for that I am able to write 18+ content and because of previous minors who have come onto my blog waving puritan flags and “you’re too old for this get a life” flags, I deemed it best to put up the 18+ minors dni because they were now infringing on my ability to create content in the light hearted way I want to do. if you look back at my content, they all have adult themes to them, even if it isn’t smut. I am just past the bump in the road where I feel like I need to direct my things at people who are simply unwilling to see my work and scream bloody murder in my ears & will gladly take on all adults who want to spew bullshit about how fictional characters are real and can feel things.

that’s my opinion. feel free to agree or disagree. but the original creator is a straight up acting like a gate keeping puritan. let people create what they want for fiction, even if you don’t agree.

[irving-braxiatel]

Gallifrey Time War 4 spoilers ahead

Some thoughts ahead that are kind of negative about Gallifrey Time War 4 and sort of a bit the Time War boxsets as a whole. It’s not meant to be some deep, cutting analysis, it’s just a train of thought. I have some feelings about this that I just wanted to work out and writing them down was the best way of doing so. idk if I’ll leave it up (I’m not even sure about posting it at all tbh) but also I am interested in hearing if anyone feels similarly so here it is for the time being 

Getting real sad in this [well-known joke fast food restaurant of choice] tonight thinking about how Gallifrey Time War 4 just kind of... wasn’t really a Gallifrey story. Like, it was Gallifrey characters, Gallifrey the planet was there, but it wasn’t really about any of them. 

At least to me as someone who has loved Gallifrey and considered it my main fandom and special interest for nearly a decade it just didn’t feel like Gallifrey. It felt like the purpose of the boxset was to 

 tie what had happened in the other Gallifrey Time War boxsets into the rest of the Time War canon Big Finish has established both to establish continuity and to redirect listeners from a range they were discontinuing to other releases

give the main characters ambiguous enough endings that they could either be brought back in other ranges or so that Big Finish could potentially revive Gallifrey one day if they felt like it 

And like... those are not bad things to want to achieve. Yes, the first feels very cash grabby to me, but at the same time I can also understand that at the end of the day Big Finish is a business that needs to make money, and when discontinuing a product they want to show their customers “hey, we have these other similar things you might enjoy instead”. Hell, if I’m being a little less cynical I could even see it as a genuine wanting to tell more people about the cool story concepts they came up with. And I mean it does make sense to leave it somewhat open ended, at the very least for Romana and Leela who have a presence in the wider whoniverse too, because they don’t want to write them off completely. They’re well loved by a lot of people who never have and never will be interested in listening to Gallifrey, and they don’t want to have to just tell those people “well, there’s no more content for you ever”. 

Here’s my problem though: to me it felt like they were prioritising those things over telling a story that was thematically in line with what Gallifrey is about and giving the characters satisfying and meaningful endings.

And that just makes me so miserable, you know? 

I’ve cared so much about this range for so long and had to watch it fizzle out into something I can’t fully recognise. 

I concede that being someone who considers myself a Gallifrey fan first and a DW fan second I am not actually in their main target demographic, and I really am not trying to say that their focus should be to appeal to the Gallifrey-centric fandom preferences of myself and people like me. I really do think that it’s not my own bias talking when I say that from a narrating perspective, Time War 4 did very little to tie up the threads the other three Time War boxsets in the story had established. In addition,  while the other three boxsets felt like they were moving slightly more in the direction of the Time War content from other Big Finish ranges, Time War 4 just straight up felt like I was listening to a Doctor Who story without the Doctor. The focus of the story became to prop up other parts of the DW EU rather than to tell a story that was compelling on its own. 

The actual main characters of Gallifrey didn’t get to shine and barely got to interact at all. Characterisation and the consistency of that is a whole other matter that I don’t feel like going in detail on right now, but broadly I felt like they didn’t really have a clear plan with any of it and the stories of the main cast all suffered for it. 

I’m not really going anywhere with this tbh, I’m just sad about it and needed to write all these thoughts down to get them out of my head. I have such a deep and genuine love for Gallifrey, but it ending like that has made it hard to be as enthusiastic about it as I used to be and that really breaks my heart. I want so badly to care about it but if I’m being brutally honest it just comes across to me like this boxset was made with no love for Gallifrey, and that the range just got tossed away because someone at Big Finish went “right, no more money to be made here, let’s move on to the next flashy thing and take as many people with us as we go.”  

[hanjo-love]

If Isayama was rushing to the end he could have rushed to avoid Hanjis death instead of calculating situations to create a scenario to kill her.

Oh anonie, my thoughts about this are all over the place, imma try to sort them out for you, so bear with me ❤️

First of all, I actually have 2 theories regarding Hanjo, which I believe Yams just dropped and glossed over. I can't decide which one of them is more plausible. So you decide.

My first theory is that Hanjo was ought to have her own little arc. In that specific arc we were supposed to find out more about her past, that's the reason she was the only main character left without a background. It was meant to be important to the plot. My guess is: Hange's arc should have been the "titan scientists arc" hence all the statements of Yelena, Pieck, etc. about Hange "knowing more about titans than the titan scientists in Marley". I've also realized they deleted every scene in the anime where they were talking about these scientists and tbh this only proofs the point this was indeed supposed to be an important part of the plot but Yams gave up on his initial idea (don't get me even started talking about the serum injections of the volunteers that were shown to us plenty of times but Yams never made use of that AND FOR WHAT?). Furthermore I believe Hanjo would have died in her arc, but Yams skipped the entire arc, so she had to die a rather pointless, unnecessary and rushed death in the end (the latter is actually not an opinion, but a fact, prove me wrong, her death was unnecessary af).

Now here's the second theory, which I actually prefer, because I'm a biased Levihan trash lmao but hey, this is not random and out of the blue, we got all the hints, so lemme explain: Hange and Levi should have ended up together (platonic or romantic, take it as you wish, but don't deny the fact they're BFFs/soulmates), therefore I'm sure Hange was supposed to inherit the beast titan. Okay so I won't go that far to point out all the hints we got from Yams for the "Hange beast titan theory" to come true (there are already plenty of posts and videos about it, lemme know if you want me to send you some links, I'll gladly do that. Also check out the tags here on Tumblr). As I was saying, leaving all the hints aside, the way Zeke died without us knowing what happened to his titan and Falco turning into a birb titan all of a fucking sudden are major plot holes and don't make sense to me at all (let's still keep our fingers crossed Yams won't gloss over these plot armors and explain them properly in the last chapter🤞🏻). So that kinda proofs the point that something is indeed missing.

Sometimes I feel like, if Yams really is riding the train of "there's no space for people over 30 in my story and Levi's only alive cause he's a fan favorite", he wouldn't have let Hange live for that long. He wouldn't have revived her in the serum bowl arc. So what exactly was the point? Was she only supposed to be the bridge commander between Erwin and Armin? Or is there more to it? Imo if Yams kept her alive for that long, she was meant to survive alongside Levi and the alliance (at least a part of it tho I don't think Jean, Connie and Gabi are done for, they'll surely return to human beings and live happily ever after lol). And as a result of this, it would have been the most normal and common thing in the world for Hange and Levi to "end up together" and spend the rest of their lives together in the woods after surviving this war and retiring later on.

So why didn't Yams draw it as initially planned? Cause *inhales* HE'S AFRAID OF THE FUCKING BACKLASH! There you go, I said what I said and I'm not taking it back. For the fandom living together means being romantically involved, ergo declaring a pair as canon and these morons fans aren't having it. They would've sent death threats to Yams' address or God knows what ���🏻‍♀️ "So what to do now?" Yams probably thought as he carelessly decided to remove his best written character, thinking he probably killed 2 birds with one stone, cause we were not supposed to find out he skipped at least one entire arc and that he actually kneeled down to the salty antis... But hey Yams, guess what? WE FUCKING NOTICED AND WE AIN'T HAVING NONE OF YO' SHIT ANYMORE.

TL;DR so basically what I was trying to say is: Yams either planned to kill Hange off "properly" after her little arc finished or he wanted her to live on with Levi as the last vets alive BUT HE FUCKING CHANGED HIS FUCKING MIND FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT FUCKING REASONS AND HE'S STRAIGHT UP RUSHING THE ENTIRE FUCKING FINAL ARC WITH SO MANY FUCKING PLOT HOLES WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT HIS FUCKING STYLE AND I'M FUCKING STRESSED OUT lmfao

Thanks for reading my Ted talk lmao and thanks for bearing with me til the the end. Here's a cookie 🍪 and thanks for the ask anonie ❤️ this was really stressing me out, ngl haha I kept coming back to this after trying to sort out my thoughts, not sure if I've managed to do that tho 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[technospotatoes]

thought i’d put this in a separate post so i don’t totally run down the comments on my other one... so HERE!

“what are your thoughts on the ‘this is why I let you die’ quote? just curious because I’m having a hard time staying a [c!sam] apologist after that.” - @cupqueencake

aight i knew someone would ask me this because people are absolutely LIVID after tommy’s lore stream lmao. BUT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER >:D

Imma be real honest, I love this quote. But what most people overlook, or don’t include for that matter, is the rest of what sam says in this scene. He says: “This is the reason I let you die in the prison, what else am I supposed to do now?” immediately after, dream says that ghostbur is essentially his hostage and will revive him. (clip from tommy’s stream) 

I know that this line is pretty controversial, but to me, this only proves how vulnerable sam was being just then. Back in late February-ish before tommy died, sam was busy trying to inspect and resolve the “security issue” that caused the prison lockdown in the first place. Upon hearing that dream was going to kill tommy, sam ran towards the high security cell, only to be too late. In that moment, sam couldn’t do anything to help tommy-- he was already dead. Extending the bridge would take too long, and dream would have killed him anyway. Sam still blames himself for failing tommy, and being stuck in an extremely similar situation is only more heartbreaking to his character. 

If you look closely in the clip, the bridge is retracted, with sam and tommy being separated from dream and ghostbur (the exact predicatment sam was in as previously mentioned). In this situation, ghostbur is dream’s hostage-- if sam went to let the bridge over, dream would have revived ghostbur anyway. There was truly nothing both tommy or sam could have done that would have helped ghostbur (which makes it even more sad tbh). With this quote, Sam reiterates to the audience that even though it’s his job as prison warden to protect others from dream, he can’t control dream himself. In this moment, both he and tommy are powerless against dream. Yes, they could kill him, but they wouldn’t get there in time to save ghostbur.

I don’t think that this should be a statement that divides the fandom over whether they like sam or not, because they’re interpreting it the wrong way. Sam didn’t say that to offend tommy. He’s trying to change tommy’s perspective, and get him to understand how difficult it is to be warden. 

I think people take this quote on a surface level and hear it as an insult or an antagonizing move, but if you look closer and utilize the context that is being shown to us on screen, we can see these smaller complexities and insights that can help us sympathize with these characters. 

Thanks so much for asking omg :D i’m seeing wayyyy too much c!sam slander on the internet recently, and it irks me that some people don’t really sit and think about how complex each of the dsmp characters are. So don’t be afraid to call yourself a c!sam apologist <3

[theyarebothgunshot]

ROSE I AM FREAKING OUT HAVE YOU SEEN THE PREQUEL STUFF???? WHAT IS GOING ON, my god... I was literally about to go to sleep, decided to check Tumblr one last time and see this.... what WHAT!! WHATTTT!!!!!! I don't even know if this is good bad or what but just JENSEN IS PRODUCING A SUPERNATURAL PREQUEL AND DEAN'S GONNA BE THE NARRATOR OR Sth LIKE???? -🐸

YEAH i am normal about this <3 (jk i am also freaking out) welcome to: people screaming to me in my inbox about prequelgate ft. j/2 fallout theory. let's goooo!

Another copypasta and suddenly chaos machine is full on gay I love this prophecy

you know whats funny i just checked the j/2 tag and i feel like for the first time in a long time they are starting to realise that maybe THEY should be the ones who are "gutted" *sips tea*

ROSE HOLY SHIT ROOOOOOOOSE ITS HAPPENING HOLY SHIIIIIT

YEAH

Nevermind just read prequel and well good luck I guess but just you know kind of bleh who wants to watch John Winchester well let’s have hope anyways

i know a lot of people are bummed out but i am kind of very excited actually?? i trust robbie and even though yeah j*hn winchester turned into a nasty abusive bastard, it can be interesting to explore how it all started (imo). it's just the first of many stories they can tell.

I can only accept this circus if it’s Dean telling the stories to his and Cas’ kids and then we have a revival to show that the whole finale was in fact the end Chuck wanted there Jensen I fixed it

i would not say no to this

heyloo bee anon here

um- wtf is happening?

jackles prequel series?? why? i want to be excited about this but sheesh im scared

because supernatural is never dead <3

okay, but, jensen... john winchester ≠ jdm, you don’t have to go /that/ hard for him 🙃

true true... though i am waiting for jdm to comment on this, please i need it

WAIT A SECOND J2 FALLOUT THEORY TRUE??

LMAO HELL YEAH BESTIE

Rose you really picked the worst time to sleep for real

bestie it was literally 4 in the morning, what do you expect from me sdfjsfhsf

I can’t literally can’t we were all right LMAO j2 fallout theory is real and cockles (Misha supporting Jensen) is [gunshots] I’m just laughing cause what the hell is this timeline we’re living LMAOOOOOOOOOO

we would always end up here <3

Do we have the copypaste anons to thank for JP basically confirming the J2 fallout? lol 🦚

yes, everybody say 'thanks annoying idiots!'

ROSE, WAKE UP, COME HERE,

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON FFS

YEAH I KNOW BUT I NEEDED SLEEP

Anticipating that there's going to be a lot of yelling about the prequel on here: I am cackling, but also, I mean, the first time Dean got a look into his parent's past, Cas was the catalyst: literally entered Dean's mind and catapulted him to the 70s. So idk, it's not completely unreasonable to expect some Cas cameos, maybe setting up a parallel timeline since Dean is narrating. What I'm saying is, this is Jackles, he's getting JDM and Misha in on this lmao -Honeymoon Anon

you were right lmfaooo also i fully agree. misha's tweet further cemented that thought for me. he knew about this prequel and i dont think he is cas-baiting us, i think he'll be involved. i'd also be obsessed to see jensen and jdm act together again (though idk who jdm could play seeing as it's a prequel and he is way too old to play young j*hn)

longlivethetribbles heeft gevraagd:

Heyyyyyy bestie, are you SEEING the absolute madness going on right now holy shit

well a little late but I SURE AM BESTIE

bestie wake up pls s16 finale just dropped.

- 🍯

and WHAT a great one it was

I love coming home from work to see all of the chaos unfolding on Tumblr and Twitter. I'm absolutely buzzing right now. I'll probably still be here by the time you wake up and check tumblr 😂 - 🐢

lmaooo and were you still awake?? did you see my freak out??

Oooh bestie wake the fuck up, I know you’re gonna be excited for this one jsnsjsj

god i had SUCH a morning like. it's 12:00 now and all i did since i woke up is check tumblr rip

short summary: jen and dee gain the rights, they post on ig/twitter about a prequel ft john and mary that no one asked for, the fandom loses its everloving shit as usual, they trend on twitter thanks to the beloved twt intern who missed us, misha qt’s jen about cas possibly benefiting from being in the prequel, then j*red qt’s jensen abt how his feelings got hurt by him not being told about a prequel his character as no involvement in & he initially throws a tantrum, and the rest is history - 🦋 anon (ps: i hope this helps a little, i’ve been scattered brained trying to keep up with it all night lmao so pls let me know if i missed anything, bug crew !!)

thank you so much darling i figured it out eventually but this is a helpful summary!!!

I hope you enjoyed waking up to all of this XD -🐢

i sure did!!! also that answers my question about you being awake lmao

I WILL NEVER EVER EVER FORGIVE MYSELF FOR SLEEPING THROUGH ALL OF THIS DRAMA AND NOT EXPERIENCING IT IN PERSON I DIDN'T NEED THIS SLEEP - tea anon

well the party was still going strong this morning so im not TOO "gutted" see what i did there lmaooo

Now that you are caught up with the news... So idk if you remember this but...didn't jarpad tell jackles he was up for a reboot in an online panel? And jackles answered that this was news to him??

-🍯

yeah i think you are right but he was clearly joking and didnt expect jackles to actually be working on something already

J2 anon spare more of those anons let's finish this - tea anon

please, we're having a ball in this bitch

I saw a post on tumblr where someone said now that Kripke gave J&D the rights, maybe they’re starting with a prequel just to end on a reboot in years time and honestly ? I wanna believe that so badly. This is tinhatty but what if this is all calculated in a way that makes it so that Jensen is slowly starting to fix everything that was wrong with spn - now that he has the rights and he’s slowly making spn his own story ?! I mean he did say in his ig post he wants to ‘fill in the rest’ - and maybe Mary and John’s story is only the beginning of spn related content from J&D to come ??? Maybe he wants to give spn the justice it deserves ?? Thoughts ??

i dont think this is tinhatty at all i think this is very possible and not that much of a reach. i could see this happening yeah for sure

want to hear something funny. I found out I had a ruptured blood vessel in my eye because I was sending my friend a video freaking out when the prequel news dropped and I noticed the corner of my eye was red af. and when I got back online jared had tweeted.

DJFHSJD ANON THE CHAOS OF IT ALL, HELP, are you okay? <3

rose.. bestie... how are you feeling about The News? nsfshsf being european is a curse </3 🐞

i feel GREAT im living for it i feel on top of the world tbh (and yeah it really is dsjfhs)

What am I waking up to I can't WHAT I rested my eyes for like 5 minutes help *hits reblog button* - anon anon

yep yep essentially djfhs

“Jensen and Misha are Co workers who barley talk”

I can’t be sure of course but I’m fairly certain that this is the copypasta that brought the j/2 fallout theory back to life. Who’s apparently ‘barely talking’ now? skansjsjsj. It’s almost prophetic, these j/2 anons have superpowers I’m telling ya.

-poker face anon

next time we get one of them we should be thanking them lmaooo

ok, but are we gonna talk about the "When Daneel and I formed Chaos Machine Productions, we knew that the first story we wanted to tell was the story of John and Mary Winchester [...]"-quote because the way this is phrased implies they formed CHAOS MACHINE Productions with the intent of telling this story (first), i haven't been in this dumpster long enough but the name just tickles me in that Misha way, isn't it so sus??? am i missing something???? i mean with this announcement they SURE lived up to that name... ��-anon

you are absolutely right, chaos machine SCREAMS misha and we are all here for it!!

hey hey hey. joining the clownverse, there's no way THEE cas girl danneel doesn't know just how much the fandom loves misha and cas. so 2 + 2 = misha in the spn prequel!

AGREED

So I think I finally managed to catch up on wtf happened while I was asleep and my brain melted. What a shit show to wake up to.

Anyway thoughts.

I don't hate the idea of a Mary&John sequel. I think it has the potential to be good (It has the potential to be really bad too, so I'm kind scared).

🕯️🕯️🕯️ manifesting Mary being badass and John being kinda useless🕯️🕯️🕯️

As for the Jensen and J*red thing.

I can see Jensen not telling J*red even if they are still friends, because J*red is kinda good at accidentally telling Secrets. He could have told him right before he announced it so, so that J*red didn't have to find out from twitter. He was on the show for 15 years, he is bound to get asked about it. The public twitter meltdown was really unprofessional so. Like you have Jensen's number J*red. You could have sorted that out in private like a normal person, but instead you choose to act like a toddler throwing a tantrum.

Is it weird that I'm actually going to be kinda that for them if the actually had a falling out, even tho I don't like J*red all that much. They seemed to be really important to each other and while I thought before that the might have triefted apart a bit, I didn't think that the where actively fighting.

- 🐌 anon

the thing is, the polite/normal thing for jensen to do was text him before announcing it on twitter. it's weird he didn't, and that makes me believe that maybe yeah they did have a falling out. especially with the way j*red responded to it on twitter. if he had no other reason to be this upset (no prior beef or falling out) you'd think that he wouldn't be responding like this. on the other hand, the man is a mysterie to me so who the hell knows. i'm not gonna mourn about it if they did/do grow apart because j*red is just.... awful imo.