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Drow kiddos growing up in different cities
#Oen is from Menzoberranzan#nym is from Mistmire (our gms version of waterdeep)#Menzo has very different expectations for men n women and no real place for nonbinary identity#very binary society and being binary trans is acceptable#but still daunting#Mistmire things are much more relaxed cuz its such a diverse city#though its human majority so the culture follows a human standard most times#there’s no structural sanctions for being trans but most people don’t really have any knowledge of it#you kind of have your Work Gender and then your personal or cultural gender#its fun to think about how these two would’ve come to their separate realizations#illustration#artists on tumblr#digital art#ocs#sketchbook#black and white#dungeons and dragons#drow#dnd#elf#trans#trans artist#trans ocs#ttrpg#ttrpg art#oc lore#t4t#fantasy
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Wip files tag game: I’m so curious about what Akolla is 👀 -stuffaboutwriting
Ahhh thank you I'm so glad someone asked! Akolla is a person, as are Talil and Tlapil. They're all part of a 1,000-year fantasy history I'm building surrounding the kingdom of Halara. Specifically, there will be 10 books, focusing on different generations of the royal family.
Akolla is the focus of the second book, the fourth royal generation after Talil the war hero united them as one kingdom. Akolla is an only child and the first royal generation to be somewhat isolated from the general population, though he doesn't live in an actual castle until he becomes Kelesh (the Halaran word for ruler).
I'm not going to tell you everything about Akolla because that won't be all that interesting out of context. What I am going to tell you is about their gender system, because it's my favorite part. Halaran only has one pronoun for all people, vi, but I use different pronouns to differentiate in English. Their gender system is fun and complex, so have an organized list:
Children don't have a gender at all. They all wear tunics and leggings and grow their hair long (well, everyone grows their hair long but adults cover it). They choose their gender when they reach the age of apprenticeship at 14. There's a big ceremony and everything. At that point they start wearing gendered adult clothes and hair coverings--almost all adults wear some sort of headscarves.
With 6 different gender options, gender (mostly) is not based on physicality but on what you prioritize in life, what you want to project to the world, and which deity you feel most represents your self.
Gendered clothing is traditional but not completely fixed--the headscarf style is near-universal and can be the only way to read gender. But also, one can't always be sure. That doesn't matter as much when you don't need to know what pronoun to use for someone, and asking can start interesting conversations.
Ku is the gender associated with the sun deity, with warmth and farming and protection and life. They wear skirts and loose shirts and headscarves in a style similar to a tichel. I use eso/eson pronouns in translation
Aig is the gender associated with the river deity, with strength and leadership and hardiness and endurance. They wear pants and loose shirts and headscarves in a style similar to a turban. I use be/bel pronouns for them.
Dakal is the gender associated with the wilderness deity, with athletics, freedom, cunning, and bravery. They wear long robes and headscarves similar to a flowy hijab style. I use zie/zir for them.
Zjigol is a gender associated with the deity of craftsmanship, associated with art, creativity, entertainment, puzzles, and beauty. They wear wrap-around skirts and either no shirt or a shawl depending on weather and their own preferences. Their headscarves are worn tied at the base of the skull with a tail down their back or over their shoulder. I was running out of options by this point and I'm really not sure what they're called. I use ne/nem pronouns for them.
Kenba is a gender associated with the deity of change, with seasons, adventure, relationships, and politics. They wear single-piece jumpsuits with varying levels of tight or loose fitting legs depending on the current style. Their headscarves are tied tight across their hair with a knot above their forehead. I use kri/krun for them.
Yo'em are different. Traditionally, originally, one was considered a holy and blessed child if they were born with different physical traits. This includes noticeable intersex traits, those that appear at birth or at puberty, as well as other unusual ways to be born, missing or with differently shaped limbs, etc. Initially, they had no choice in the matter and were often sent to become priests (although others could be as well). They were thought to be good omens. In later years, their options expanded and they were given more choice. Eventually, some began to choose their own gender while others redefined what being yo'em meant to them. They wear tunics and leggings, but in a much more adult style than children's, and no headscarf, leaving their hair loose. I use the Halaran pronoun vi for them because I'd run out by then.
#I am still working on tweaking the details for sensitivity and coherence and such#but I'm also very proud of how I built their culture and language around this#the other kingdoms surrounding them have different systems#Eng is very binary#Aled has a third gender much like many real cultures#Nita is binary but much more accepting of being trans or enby#like an idealized modern western society#Moshke writes#Halara#ask game#thanks for the ask!#Writeblr
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It's so funny how we were both like "I'm probably non binary but I have a job so I don't care about that rn" and then we got together, talked about gender and stuff, both realised it meant nothing to us and absolutely nothing changed except for the fact we now have this understanding that we're just two people who love eachother without feeling the need to conform to any sort of norm with how we dress, act or treat eachother.
#tbf i'd hardly call myself non binary even though i technically fit the definition since i don't identify with my agab#but like. i didn't change anything about my presentation since it's hardly fem or masc just very normal (t shirt/hoodie and shorts/jeans#i don't care what pronouns people call me by. usually irl it's aligned with my agab but online i've had many people use the opposite for me#and it feels the same#i write they/them if there's like a space for it or someone asks in English but my primary language doesn't have neutral pronouns so...#what now? also my country is a lot less accepting/aware of trans people than anglophone countries#so yeah those are the reason i don't really identify myself as trans at least in front of people since... i haven't transed anything i just#like gave up on the concept of gender#and of course i'm not completely free of it cause we live in a society and stuff but yeah. i wish i was#aaaaanyways.#this space is a safe space for lgbtqia folks btw and terfs fuck off#eep.txt#agender#gendervoid#being called a good boy is the same as being called a good girl to me. same master/mistress. lord/lady
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I've seen quite a few posts about people who want to "transition to intersex" and it's really starting to frustrate me
Intersex doesn't mean "androgynous", it doesn't mean "both male and female", it doesn't mean "somewhere in between the binary"
Intersex means you have naturally occurring sex characteristics that don't align with what society deems "correct." You cannot transition to being intersex because it's not something that can be done intentionally.
The changes caused by HRT or surgery do not make you intersex and you do not want an intersex body because there is no single definition of what an intersex body looks like.
If you're perisex and want a body that is androgynous, somewhere between male and female, or both male and female then you're allowed to want that. You're allowed to want whatever it is you want your body to look like, but you will never have an "intersex" body and you shouldn't be using the label intersex.
People who say they want to have an intersex body either fundamentally do not understand what being intersex is or they have a very fetishized idea of what being intersex is like. (Ex: they think being intersex means you have both sets of genitalia)
As a nonbinary intersex person I know what it's like to want your body to look nonbinary, but that isn't what makes me intersex. What makes me intersex is the fact that I have secondary sex characteristics that do not match what society deems normal. And, btw, that isn't a nice thing. I'm learning how to accept that part of me but my intersex traits actually give me major dysphoria.
So yeah, TLDR: Perisex trans people stop being weird about intersex bodies.
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I’ve seen a lot of explanations for young queer people being so weirdly puritan, as in the no-kink-at-pride discourse, the anti-ship people working themselves into moralistic anger paroxysms over fanfic and the frequent callouts of people over harmless consensual kinks. Like people, including myself, have attributed it to the after-effects of an evangelical Christian upbringing or the related problem of the very sheltered and isolated childhoods many of these people have had. And that’s all probably true to a certain extent.
But honestly, it’s probably boils down to a simple thing: a form of queer respectability politics. All forms of queerness in cishetnormative society are seen as freakish degenerate perversion, but some are seen as worse than others. And openly disavowing other queers with weird kinks is the most common form to buy respect from normie society, and it does have some material benefits for them. It’s common to almost all forms of oppression for there to be a dynamic of asking certain sections of the oppressed to sell out other oppressed people for their own benefit. Divide and conquer. This has gone on for literally decades. The respectable monogamous cis white gay male couple who condemn those other gays who are into leather and bondage and casual sex is almost a cliché at this point.
And let’s be honest, some people in the queer community are more privileged than others and thus able to wield this kind of respectability politics against those more oppressed than them. This is why transfems are so often targeted by TME queers for callouts over harmless kinks. There is little more disgusting to the cishetnormie mind than a transfem being sexual. And so other queers are able to wield transmisogyny to build their own respectability. What all those callouts from TME queers are actually saying, if you would do a They Live glasses style analysis, is:“I’m not a degenerate perverted sex freak, but that transfem over there is, do harm to her, not me.”
Transmisogyny is so strong that the figure of the degenerate transfem can even be used to redeem previously unacceptable figures of queer sexuality. I’ve seen multiple posts that present the aforementioned leather and bondage cis gay male kinksters as wholesome in contrast with whatever evil kink they are ascribing to transfems this week. Nothing is as evil to anti-kink moralists as two trans lesbians who do fauxcest roleplay by calling themselves sisters.
And when queers deprogram themselves from cisheteronormativity, they tend to do it in very self-serving ways. They only unlearn their bigotry and disgust against varieties of queerness that apply to them. So cis gays accept that cis gay male and cis lesbian sex is fine, various TME trans people unlearn their bigotry against tme non-binary people or taking testosterone. The queer things that are part of their identity, that they are inclined to do. But basically no variety of queer listed in this paragraph have any strong incentive to unlearn their bigotry and disgust against transfems, their transmisogyny And why would they? They can use transmisogyny to their own benefit, to raise their status within the queer community and in wider society by throwing transfems to the wolves.
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The thing is...I've read a lot of posts and listened to a lot of videos by binary trans men & women and non-binary people of any AGAB and intersex people to whom masculinity is assumed or desired.
Each group has unique experiences with unique bigotry targetted at them for being who they are. But each group also experiences misplaced bigotry, aimed at a different group but used to hurt them anyway.
There's also a distinct and very real overlap between transmisogyny and transandrophobia. The thread that connects these concepts for binary and nonbinary trans masc people, AMAB's of any identity (intersex and not), and yeah even some butch cis lesbians is what we've been harking on about so long - the inherent villianising of masculinity in particularly when deemed to be in the 'incorrect' place!
A butch woman is not expected to be 'too masculine'. If she's seen as failing womanhood in this way, she will face discrimination from others for doing this even amongst other lesbians.
Attending groups or events for 'women and nonbinary' only to find out they mean 'women and women-lite' and don't want anyone with any proximity to masculinity to be there. Being told or being able to quickly understand that your masculinity is making others uncomfortable despite the fact that you are amongst other queer people/trans people. Being expected to preform femininity to a certain stereotyped degree to prove you are 'safe'.
These are all specific things which could be considered both transandrophobia OR transmisogyny, depending on who they happen to but...now here me out, doesn't that just mean we need to sit and realise that the distinction between them isn't always rigid? That there is an antimasculine issue within the trans and queer community but it doesn't target any one particular group over another. The acceptance of queer masculinity is a must. It won't solve all issues not by far, but would go a long way into making sure trans women (especially but not just those who 'don't pass' and maybe never want to be feminine anyway) feel more accepted and less like they'll always be seen as predators for being born male/assigned male at birth. It'll go a long way into accepting the 'men' part of trans men and the 'masc' part of any trans masc. It'll go a long way to accepting butch lesbians are still women despite their outward proximity to 'maleness'.
And if you're seriously reading this and are about to go on a tirade about how masculinity is praised and desired in society - stop. Cis masculinity is praised and desired and even then it has rules.
The world is a lot more complex than men and masculinity good anything else bad but unfortunately if you keep seeing it this way even if you disagree you are going to be responsible for both transandrophobia and transmisogyny persisting.
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Transmedicalism: The Sexism, Racism, and Classism of Transmeds
the theory of transmedicalism is undeniably intertwined with eurocentrism, white supremacy, colonial values, classism, and sexism.
1.) SEXISM
transmedicalists often propose the idea of “being born in the wrong body”– which has become the most widely accepted definition of transness. this is pseudoscience; no one can be “born in the wrong body”. this idea supports the neurosexist myth of the sex brain, “womb hormone imbalance”, “brain-body incongruence”, and general misinformed scientific misogyny. transmedicalism suggests medical intervention as the only solution to dysphoria & incongruence, which can be deeply harmful due to the unresearched nature of gender/sex dysphoria. the calls for the medicalizing of gender also fail to recognize the inherent intersexism this very idea is built on– unnecessary medical intervention on intersex infants is completely built on the medicalization of gender. of course, transness is medical & neurological– but it also undoubtedly is sociological, and transmeds fail to consider this fact. they fail to consider gender socialization, patriarchal values & environmental influence. their belief of having to involve medical intervention in every case of dysphoria fails to encompass the very fact that dysphoria can heal, and this uniquely disempowers & harms detrans people. with their assimilationist views, transmeds tend to revert back to cisnormative praxis. presenting medical transition & assimilation as the only path to trans happiness, they actively ignore the corrupt nature of the affirmative-only model, as well as the overly sexist practices presented to dysphoric individuals. the affirming-model, following transmedicalist thought, often attacks dysphoric people for not wanting to completely assimilate in the cispatriarchal society. assimilation is a direct attack on liberation. assimilation kills, assimilation is erasure, assimilation is the violence of invisibility. attacks on individuality & informed consent, as well as promising happiness to dysphoric people & claiming that medical transition is the only path available for them (& the fearmongering of, “if you don’t transition, you will die”) is the corrupt nature of transmedicalism. medical transition can be harmful, as much as it can be helpful. it is not the only cure to dysphoria, and sometimes it isn’t a cure, at all. the goal of trans liberation isn’t to assimilate into the strict gender binary, it is to destroy the gender binary.
2.) RACISM
attempts at purposing the “immediate need” for medical intervention in cases of dysphoria are also intertwined with colonization & white supremacy. strict attempts of white trans people to “pass” uniquely harm trans people of color. trans people of color are disproportionately subjected to extreme rates of poverty & discrimination, and are therefore bared from the resources they might need for the furthering of their desired transition. the emphasis that transmedicalist ideals place on the importance of passing as cis, as well as the ways in which racist stereotypes have bred toxic masculinity in communities of color, has led to a disproportionate level of violence being targeted towards trans people of color. pressuring dysphoric people to take unhealthy measures at “passing” & “assimilating” otherwise “they aren’t truly dysphoric”, undoubtedly is rooted in the westernized & eurocentric view of trans healthcare.
3.) CLASSISM
transmedicalism is largely classist, through & through. grooming young dysphoric people, who oftentimes come from non-wealthy families, that the only way they can reach happiness is by medically transitioning, is a very well-known tactic of transmedicalism. transmedicalism fails to consider diverse economic situations, and by presenting medical transition as the only path to happiness of dysphoric people, transmeds breed a unique form of insecurity, self-doubt, and depression in the brains of dysphoric youth. they claim medical transition is the only way dysphoric people will ever be able to be happy, and as they make this claim, they simultaneously subject lower-class trans people to lifelong suffering. this is one of the many ways classism manifests as one big hole in transmedicalist thought. not everyone can afford to pass, and it is unfair to declare everyone who cannot pass as a “faker”. branding transition as the only “cure” to dysphoria, and then barring certain individuals from the said “cure”, tells us just how flawed transmedicalism is. capitalists love to profit from vulnerable people’s pain, and dysphoria is a neurological condition that, by branding such a commodifying solution as “the only cure”, can get capitalists thriving at the expense of deeply ill & vulnerable people. transmeds imply that dysphoric people immediately need fixing, otherwise they’re doomed to lifelong suffering & inevitable death. this is the fastest way of manipulating a marginalized group & thus providing & promising profit to consumerist industries & those on the top of the capitalist pyramid.
4.) CONCLUSION
transmedicalism is the most socially accepted idea of transness. it is one that supports assimilation, the patriarchy, racism & colonialism. it is one that is the most likeable to large corporations, conservatives, and the power thirsty capitalists. as such, we shouldn’t see it as a feminist idea of transness. i have seen far too many self-proclaimed radical feminists claim transmeds are “the best trans people” & “ones we should accept the most”. this is a blatantly incorrect & dangerous belief to hold. transmedicalism harms dysphoric people on a wide scale; it punishes deviation from the gender hierarchy, affirms medical transition as the only way to trans happiness, profits from dysphoric pain– and as such, is inherently anti-feminist. it is one thing to acknowledge that dysphoria can be neurological, and that dysphoria is a mental condition– but it is a completely distinct thing to pressure trans people to medically transition, to imply dysphoric people need “fixing”, and to push & betray our trans siblings to the large messy pit the capitalist industry of medical transition is. undoubtedly, medical transition can save lives– but it can also destroy them, and the industry needs immediate reform. a lot of transmedicalists declare themselves “pro-radfem”, which is probably why they’ve gained such sympathy from self-proclaimed radfems– but the two groups couldn’t be more separate from each other. radfems generally have more in common with the crowd that parades neopronouns & xenogenders– and although more than few radfems will find this nonsensical– we still have to admit that these people have no power in the gender hierarchy whatsoever, unlike transmedicalism– an idea that built its’ praxis & is turning into a huge corporation. dysphoric people are not an experiment, nor are we a public good & guinea pigs. our pain is not something that capitalist pigs should have access to commodifying. transmedicalism hurt me as an individual, as well– the effects kalvin garrah & the “truscum” community (i had quite a few toxic transmed exes) had on me as a vulnerable dysphoric teen were numerous. i hated myself, and i hate myself a little less ever since i distanced myself from the huge mess the “truscum” community is. feminism is helping me heal, and i get enraged every time i see transmedicalism be accepted as a radfem ideal. it is not, and it never will be.
– mod zoroark
#mod zoroark#poketext#radblr#nuancefem#nuanceblr#trans#transgender#lgbt#queer#anti transmed#radical feminism#radical feminist safe
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it's very concerning to me when i see people denounce baeddelism but not analyze any of the reasons why it's such a harmful ideology and instead pivot it back to how the original baeddels were cultlike.
like, yes, that's an extremely important thing to acknowledge. but we also need to take a step back and analyze how it's a flawed ideology that does nothing but hurt people.
trans people, as a whole, are almost never in a place of gender-based privilege in our modern society. never. it doesn't matter what sex you were assigned at birth or what gender you transitioned to. ultimately, none of us fit within the bounds of cisnormative society. it is impossible to transition into privilege because the act of transitioning itself ensures that, once again, you will never fit into what is deemed acceptable within these societal standards. it doesn't matter if you're fifty years down the line from the start of your transition- if the wrong person finds out your assigned sex at birth you still run the risk of violence. there are hundreds and hundreds of cases of trans people freely living their lives in stealth only to be outed and erased posthumously.
the entire baeddel movement hinges on the idea that, as opposed to the currently existing systems that perpetuate violence against trans people, the ultimate enemy of transgender women is AFAB trans people. this is absolutely untrue. the only world in which transgender men would hold any kind of gender-based privilege is in a hypothetical in which trans people are always treated as their preferred gender post-transition- and in this world, it's doubtful that transphobia would even exist in the first place. bigots do not look at a transgender person and determine what direction they are transitioning in before enacting prejudice. and while yes, some of this can definitely stem from misplaced transmisogyny, we also need to acknowledge that transgender men face their own unique form of oppression that serves as an intersection of transphobia and misogyny. the infantilization, erasure, and corrective violence that transgender men and similarly-aligned trans people face are, in fact, a form of prejudiced oppression!
this isn’t to say that afab trans people can't perpetuate transmisogyny. anyone can, because our society is inherently transmisogynistic and it falls on the individual to recognize and analyze their own unconscious prejudices. (this goes for all forms of bigotry.) what i'm saying is that this is absolutely not something unique to afab trans people. and once again the systems in place to perpetuate violence against trans people are a much bigger threat.
i think the reason i haven't seen much deconstruction of this is how this sort of rhetoric still echoes around online trans spaces to this day, with the most prevalent example being the established TME/TMA binary and scaremongering about any discussions of transandrophobia as inherently transmisogynistic. i never thought that i would have to explain in the year of our lord 2024 that transgender men do, in fact, face misogyny, but here we are.
other trans people are not your enemy. stop drinking the radfem kool-aid and fight alongside your brothers, sisters and siblings for a better future for us all. amen.
(apologies for any bad wording, this was written very late at night. i hope this was a good analysis of this topic.)
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At some point in the past couple of months I have concluded/accepted that I am transgender. It's been a constant back and forth from being agender to gender queer to non binary to agender again, surprisingly NEVER gender fluid but at the end of the day, I am transmasc. And I still say that instead of saying I'm a boy or a man because even if I ever transition I think I'd play around a bit with femininity still and that could just be due to the fact that I was socialized as a girl and I've been treated and perceived as such all my life and to let it all go, at least for the time being, feels like I'd be letting go of or giving up who I am. I don't know who I'll be or how I'll act and feel years in the future when I've physically and socially transitioned. As of right now, I don't know if I ever actually will transition. I reckon my life would end before I ever even get the chance to utilize America's beautiful(🙄) healthcare system.
I resigned myself to being one of those people who just never comes out. Where history will be like "she had masculine tendencies and preferred outdoor activities" only for those who know to be like, "yeah she was probably trans." I planned to and accepted that I'd live the rest of my life in misery because the misery I feel doesn't outweigh the fear I have about how the world will treat me if I start transitioning. All my life I've been picked on for being different. I can't bear it, thinking that coming out would be GIVING people a reason to hate me. But lately I've felt soooo unmanageably wrong and dysphoric. I can't handle it anymore. I didn't know things could get worse. I didn't think it could get this bad. If I don't start taking the steps to feel like myself, I don't think I'll last very long. But I'm also nervous that if I ever do start to feel comfortable in myself, I'll want to live for too long. And I can't do that in this world. I can't envision it.
So this is my official coming out post. You guys are getting it first because I dont have anyone in my life I trust enough to tell and its eating me up inside not talking about it. I still don't know what to do about pronouns. I've always hated telling people "she/her is fine" in the most devastated voice. I hate hate hate so much that society has gotten comfortable with asking people their pronouns because it was the catalyst for me no longer being able to ignore my feelings. But I think I should at least try telling people to use they/them pronouns. Maybe then I won't be so afraid of transitioning.
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let's talk about anti-xenogender bigotry, as it often reveals a lot of how people see gender, and especially nonbinary gender.
this post in particular is inspired by a reddit post i found by accident when i just wanted to download the xenogender flag (lol).
the post was shared by a trans woman who claimed that xenogenders aren't genders and thus not valid. she made sure though to say that she totally supports nonbinary people.
her first point on why xenogenders don't exist was that how valid a gender is is determined by its societal support, and since xenogenders are only supported in "fringe extremist "trans" spaces", they aren't real.
firstly, interesting that any trans person who supports xenogender people gets their trans card revoked. we're no longer trans, we're "trans".
secondly, hinging the validity of a gender on the amount of social support it has directly contradicts with her supposed support of nonbinary people. maybe she happens to live in the most nonbinary-friendly place ever, but overall, the very concept of nonbinary gender does not have a lot of societal support. so, according to her logic, nonbinary people are inherently less valid than binary people. some might even say that only fringe extremist "trans" spaces support nonbinary people. and, while trans itself is not a gender, if we add gender modality to the mix, then binary trans people don't exactly have massive societal support either. as a trans woman, does she consider her womanhood less valid than cis women's? basing the validity of a gender on societal support doesn't make any sense because there actually isn't a single monolithic society, and the societies that have historically recognised and celebrated more than two genders have been forcibly binarised by white european colonisers. did nonbinary gender become less valid over time and now it's slowly gaining validity as support for us is slowly growing? none of her logic in this makes sense. her rhetoric is inherently exorsexist and binarist, not just against xenogenders but basically against any nonbinary gender which she claims to support, and against cultural genders too.
the "societal support" argument completely falls apart because it means that every marginalised identity of any kind is inherently less valid and less real. she's revealing her bigotry here: it's not really about societal support, it's about which genders she arbitrarily decides are real and valid.
her second argument why xenogenders are not real was that any gender that exists outside of a triangle of male, female and genderless doesn't exist. you can only slide between those, like being hallway between male and genderless or in the middle of all three, but not outside. this is the classic gender trinary of male/female/agender and it's how i used to see gender as a baby enby.
firstly, gender isn't bound to whatever spectrum you personally decide is acceptable. there are many ways to be outside of that triangle besides xenogenderness. this logic basically says that the only valid way to be abinary is to be agender. not even abinary men or women exist in that logic, since the concept of abinary doesn't exist besides agenderness.
so, how can someone say she supports nonbinary people while saying a whole lot of us aren't real, even the ones who aren't xenogender, simply because she, as a binary person, thinks she has the right to decide what the gender spectrum looks like and whose gender is real and whose isn't?
all her points on why xenogenders aren't real also apply to multiple or all nonbinary genders. especially coming from a binary person, it reveals a huge ignorance to the nonbinary experience as well as a very narrow view of gender.
we're all in this together. clearly, exorsexists can't tell the difference between someone who is xenogender or someone who is, for example, ilyagender, or maybe even someone who happens to be within that gender triangle but within that have a gender that is not socially supported, like proxvir.
this is all the more reason for all of us nonbinary people to stick together and not draw lines in the sand about which nonbinary gender is valid and acceptable. if something harms one of us, they always end up harming all of us in some way. we're in this together.
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Ok so I haven’t posted like a proper potentially controversial deep dive here but I need to say some things about this season of Bridgerton. Before I do here are some qualifiers
1. I am not plus size but I am on the chubby end and wear typically a size large.
2. I come from a long line of people who are plus size
3. I think every comment about Nicola’s weight besides the ones she chose to make without pressure to make them are just simply not our business and pretty shitty
4. I want this to be a discussion this is not a hill I need to die on but I think peoples opinions can change and two things can be true.
Ok here we go buckle up
I was incredibly excited when I saw that the new season of Bridgerton was going to have Polin. It actually is what got me to start watching it in the first place, however I noticed a couple things with “the discourse” happening around the show.
Firstly, people were really excited to see a larger actress as a romantic lead which I agree is fantastic! The second is that these same people were very vocal about the height difference between the two of them. In fact how “tiny” she was in comparison was brought up a lot. I’m sure if this post has stumbled across your page a bunch of those did too.
Like some of the comment pieces on the above Forbes article mention, the media seems to have an allergy to “mixed weight” relationships when the woman is heavier-set or bigger in general than the man. What we talk about less is that height is also a factor. Society doesn’t just want women to be thin, it wasn’t them to be small.
I don’t mean to write about this in a “the tall girl movie from Netflix cringe way” but I think there is a nuanced discussion to be had about how we want women to take up less space and how femininity is tied to being small and delicate.
To me, a 5’ 6” ish queer person I’ve been taller than a lot of girls I’m friends with and a bunch of the men and enby or trans people I know. That, personally, has always made me feel bigger and ganglier and less feminine than the other femme presenting people I’m around. I get automatically stuck in a different category. Gaining weight, however, intensified this feeling. It feels as if I am perceived differently because of the combination of these two factors not just each on their own. Everything around us says it’s ok to be tall if you’re super thin and it’s ok (but less ok than being tall and thin) to be bigger if you’re short and dainty. It feels very conciliatory and condescending like a woman can’t take up space if she wants to be loved.
In Bridgerton, the conversations circling Nicola’s weight and height like vultures prey on this idea. It’s not acceptable just because she’s not sample size and that should be normal but because she’s little next to him even when she’s bigger. She can be a romantic lead because the man they show her to be in a relationship with is still bigger and stronger in different ways.
This also puts pressure on masc presenting people too. They need to be taller and often bigger to be accepted as “masculine or manly” which is its own problem I don’t feel as qualified to write about.
I’m sure this has its own complications for people who are non-binary or trans but I just needed to get this out there because it’s been BUGGING me.
Cheers,
Absinthe
#bridgerton#nicola coughlan#luke newton#polin#polin bridgerton#bridgerton season 3#thoughts#forbes magazine#tw weight#body image#this is just some thoughts#let’s chat about it
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Gender Binary and Age Regression
TW: Discussions of gender rules, mentions of k!nk
Being non-cis, genderqueer, nonconforming, or similar is an interesting experience in the Age Regression community. I think that regression is very much accessible, and this is an overwhelmingly accepting community, but I don’t see the experiences being talked about much. But why is that? Especially considering the large demographic of regressors that aren’t cis?
So as I always do on this blog, I’ll talk about it myself!
Granted, I can only speak for my personal experience, observations, and analysis. People experience both gender and age regression in very personal ways, so I don’t mean to erase or disregard anyone’s experiences that are different from what’s discussed. As such, I’d love to hear other people’s thoughts on this subject.
Firstly, something I notice about the community, namely through aesthetic posts and blog presentations, is that it can be very binary at times. This makes sense if you think about it. As children, most of us were raised with strict gender rules and expectations that we conformed to. Girls were expected to play house, with dolls, or other nurturing activities. Meanwhile, boys were expected to be messy and wild; toys like trucks and action figures encouraged more active play. When we regress, it’s natural that these social expectations and rules come back.
Additionally, a lot of children’s items are categorized into these binary standards. As such, in the regression community we tend to see things that are femme or masc leaning. Eg. Almost all ‘girl’ toys are pink or purple. ‘Boy’ toys are blue or green. Dolls and princesses are only ever marketed towards girls. Cars and superheroes are only marketed to boys. Walking into a toy store, you can clearly see that certain isles are meant to appeal to the gender binary.
Furthermore, I think that for a lot of people, having a binary regression is important. For example, I know some trans regressors utilize Little Space so they can have the properly gendered childhood they didn’t originally receive.
Lastly, I wonder if (unfortunately) the k!nk community has something to do with it. Granted this is all speculation, but DDLG is one of the most popular subsets of ABDL. As such, a lot of adult sized baby items are geared towards femininity. This probably doesn’t affect the actual regression community very much, but I think it has indirectly influenced the general population into gearing Little Space towards ‘girls.’
Even unrelated to those k!nk communities, society is a lot more accepting of fem-presenting being childish than masc-presenting. Boys are expected to grow up faster and be tougher than girls, at least in my experiences. I’m gender-fluid, so I’ve seen personally that I’m a lot more self conscious about regressing in public when I’m masc. It’s just not as accepted.
These reasons combined—original binary expectations we learned in childhood, the market for children’s items, repairing childhood, and outside social influences—make the regression community fairly gendered. Again, I know this is an overwhelmingly welcoming and supportive community. I haven’t seen any agere accounts that would discriminate based on gender, and many of us are genderqueer ourselves (me included!)
So is there a way we can make this community more inclusive to genderqueer/nonconforming people? Yes, for the most part. I’ve seen plenty of gender neutral regressors, blogs, and boards, which is a step in the right direction. I think ‘boy-re’ is also gaining popularity for masculine regressors to get the attention they deserve. Of course, we alone cannot influence the entire world to be more accepting of breaking the gender binary. But we can take steps within our community to ensure that anyone existing outside the gender binary is respected and recognized.
I also want to remind you all that this is not meant to take shots at any binary regressors. Furthermore, some regressors who may seem binary on first glance can still be genderqueer. For some people, these experiences are very important, and that should be respected.
To all my fellow regressors,no matter how you present on the outside, and no matter your agere aesthetic and binary, you are a valid and loved member of the community. I wish you nothing but kindness, acceptance, and lots of love! Happy regressing, everyone!
—Marty 🦖
#agere community#sfw agere#little space#sfw interaction only#age regressor#agere blog#age regression caregiver#age regression community#agere little#sfw regression
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if you cant accept the lived experience of others in a way that might conflict with ur own to the point where you not only dismiss it entirely, but also make an effort to silence and degrade those voices in an effort to dismiss them from the conversation that you claim is a fight to bring equality of us all, then idk what to tell you.
i have no idea what happened in the last decade but it seriously feels like we've backpedaled to a time where i was fearful that by taking hormones and becoming a man, i would become the enemy of anyone who calls themselves a feminist. the cultural attitude i was brought up in led me to put off my transition for years, and it took me to a very dark place that i wouldn't wish upon anyone.
i also hate to bring this up but, being raised as a girl, i was very often spoken over or not listened to, told i was stupid or otherwise infantalised. Most of us hopefully realise that this isnt fair and want to move towards a society where this isnt the case. When i speak about the particular issues trans men face, i cant help but feel an eerily familiar feeling when im told that my issues arent important, that they do not exist or i'm selfish for wanting to do something about it.
people claim tme/tma labels are useful for speaking about populations but fails to concretely describe who is part of that population, by picking and choosing who should be included based on the issue being argued. how can this framework be considered inclusive when it seems to be fundamentally built upon excluding or refusing to acknowledge people?
you cant make a framework that, by default, cant support trans men/masculine people, non binary people, intersex people and other swathes of demographics, and then act like those people are whining, selfish brats or brutish, misogynistic idiots for calling you out on the exclusivity.
actual scum behaviour, please go spend time with queer folk in your actual, real life community and learn that we arent the enemy you seem to think we are.
thanks velvet nation, i really needed the vent space.
You're always allowed to vent here. <3
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I want to make something clear: Loki is non-binary in the purposes of us defining Him to make Him an easier narrative to digest. We can know Him to be non-binary. That isn’t to say that He is non-binary.
As we all know, Gods don’t have body parts or sexual organs. They do not reproduce organically much less have hormones, human experiences, or endure human challenges in experiencing the problems of this modern world such that we need a title to define our experience of gender.
However, the point of Him being a male is the fact that He defies gendered practices and expectations that are the “norm” in our society. He takes into account the nature of gender in order to question it, and honestly, the best way to take into account the problems of masculinity would be to be a male Divine being who defies these things while otherwise appearing androgynous, queer, and sometimes even trans.
He does these things in spite of being predominantly male in order to question maleness itself. Which is kind of the point of Loki.
A Deity is made up of energy which is definitive, enormous, and encompasses many vast ideas, decisions, and can often only be explained by using metaphor, hyperbole, and analogy to describe Their existence. This is where stories come in. They tell us the tale of Their existence but we did not make those up on a whim, we made them because They were there with Their people and inspired these tales.
Who Loki is is important because we cannot determine His gender identity without glossing over the fact that He is a shapeshifter and the point of His shapeshifting is to show people what they want to see and believe of Him. Just because He shapeshifts and wears prettier faces than others, does not take away from the fact that He is inherently a male who is questioning maleness and sexuality norms just by being who He is.
We cannot place our own determination of gender onto the Gods who do not abide by that sort of thing. Just because we see Him as non-binary and trans does not make Him non-binary and trans. If that’s how our brains want to interpret Him, that’s how it’s going to be. How we see Him using our own experience of gendered pronouns and categories doesn’t necessarily mean that’s how He sees Himself. That’s the difference here.
It’s important to note that we get in our own way by saying things like He is non-binary because it can detract from the meaning that He is a male and there is a point that is made by Him being one given His pursuit of queerness and liminality. It is not what He is that’s important, it’s why.
What separates Him from every other Deity who shape-shifts, cross dresses, and practices seidr is the fact that given He is a male Deity, He does these things with reason to point out the inherent flaws in the system and take into question why it mattered that there was a binary in the first place.
I would also argue that in most cases, there are often two very opposing ideas that are true at the same time and that tends to be where you find truth. Especially with Loki who is a walking contradiction Himself. If we can’t accept that some things are true while also being not true, we kind of lose the point in knowing Him.
At the end of the day, believe whatever the fuck you want to believe. There’s no point in arguing with people about what their experiences are. Especially given the fact that Loki is a shapeshifter and it is inherent within His nature to hold His truest form to Himself for few people or beings to see. He is all those things but He also isn’t. Otherwise, He wouldn’t be much of a trickster, now would He?
#lokean resource#lokean#paganblr#deity work#norse paganism#the gods are queer af#but at the same time they aren’t#amazing contradictions for a contradicting Deity
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so I've seen this going around lately, and I want to talk about it. I didn't want to add discourse to OP's post because I didn't know if/how much was welcome.
this is a very hot button issue for me. general tw for this post: mention of abuse within kink dynamics.
so. y'all all know that I have some very strict limits on this blog. I have a boundary against play with cis men. I have a hard limit on misogyny and patriarchy kinks being in my space. and I'm not alone in that: a lot of other queer ppl I know (mostly wlw, nblnb, t4t, and intersex) have the same limits.
for me it's trauma rooted. all dynamic abuse I've ever experienced has been at the hands of cis men, so I don't deal well with them. and growing up in purity culture as a closeted afab has ruled out misogyny/patriarchy kink. as a result, I am very avoidant of anything that rings of these dynamics...which happen to be overrepresented as dominance in modern pornography.
it is very hard as a t4t to find porn that isn't influenced by this binary, which usually plays itself out as:
to be feminine is to be weak, and vice versa
the submissive partner is the bottom
the dominant partner is controlling outside the bedroom
submission is holy for the feminine and deviant for the masc
dominance is holy for the masculine and deviant for the femme
existing power balances in society are utilized in play
the submissive is to be protected
the submissive is the dominants responsibility and not vice versa
aesthetic perfection is expected of the sub
and many more.
so to say "signs of domination in your social circle" may mean different things to different people. I'll be honest, I don't know what OP meant; this post was awhile back in their blog -- I'm just using this as a way to talk about some of my own hangups, hence why I made my own post instead of responding.
and yeah. if someone in my social circle showed signs of being controlling outside the bedroom, magnifying social inequalities in play, deeming submissives weak and demanding of protection, or expecting aesthetic perfection of submissive seeming people....would I call that evil? um. fuck no.
but I would recognize it as something I can't be a part of. I would form resentment if treated accordingly: as something inherently weak, defenseless, naive, and feminine due to my preference for submission, or hell, for being fucking Asian. cause yeah, that happens.
that said: if someones treating every sub, or every person they decide is submissive, like that...they're a fucking weirdo. their problem.
but there's another side to this. one that affects people who top, people with penises, and people who present as masc who...
may derive euphoria from aligning with a binary role in a kink setting
may genuinely share a desire to be protective and controlling with their partner/s
may face othering or prejudice for seeming like an angry trans woman or a violent butch or an angry Black person
are already only tenuously accepted in queer spaces due to masculine presentation or AGAB or race
so what's to be done?
simply put, don't put your trauma or your bias onto others. I really think that's the answer.
if a particular type of dominance triggers you, remove yourself from the space. unless it's your space, in which case set boundaries.
if you find yourself side eyeing people of a certain AGAB or presentation more than others, consider that this is a you problem.
understand not everything's about you. subs can be just as selfish as doms. just because your friend likes to dominate doesn't mean they want to Dom you. just because they Dom in a way you wouldn't want to be dommed doesn't mean they're wrong.
fuck off with your kink shaming. flat out, unless you are speaking about dynamic abuse or any other type of abuse, you have no grounds to judge the way other d-types or s-types roll. unlearn your purity culture.
learn a thing or two about top drop and/or Dom drop.
and for God's sake...in this hellish 2024 pride month where trans rights are backsliding and other lgbtq+ rights will certainly follow: educate yourself. cishets didn't invent kink. leather daddies have been doing this for decades. lesbian pulp fiction featuring s&m dates really far back. hell, ancient Greeks have art documenting s/m relationships, and y'all know they were gay as shit.
cause I have an inkling that in queer circles this comes from the decrying of evil, icky cishet culture in kink. you are entitled to your boundaries, but your bias and your judgment and your disgust can damn well be kept to yourself. my partner deals with enough guilt over their preferred role, and enough crisis about whether their masculinity comes off as creepy, without neopuritans exacerbating the issue.
and that includes me. I've had to unlearn this shit from the ground up since coming out. I thought coming out was the unlearning, but no: you are not immune to internalized bias. and your masc, amab, intersex, and Black and Brown queer siblings are not immune to the harm you may be perpetuating.
anyway. I'm stoned AF. and prepared to turn off reblogs for this post. lol
#kink discourse#dynamic abuse#tw: dynamic abuse#tw: misogyny#tw: patriarchy mention#tw: transmisogyny#just in csse#only barks#not sexy
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we need to stop treating social justice like a religion and start treating it like an action we pursue. you don't have to believe what i believe. but you do have to not cause harm to people who do believe it. today, in a society where we are encouraged by social media to say everything we think, we have to consider what we mean by "harm" though. thoughts are not dangerous, actions are dangerous, as anyone who read 1984 can attest. so we have to consider harm beyond direct physical harm, and consider the larger movement caused by those words that create the harm. in the past, if your crazy cousin said at a family dinner that transpeople weren't real, everyone would roll their eyes and move on because your crazy cousin doesn't have much influence beyond their social circle and they are just gonna talk shit and do jack so it's very easy to manage to not see that cousin again and therefore not hear the talk. but when your crazy cousin starts posting all these things online, they reach a wider audience than just the friends who are all talk, and more importantly, they reach those who don't realize it's supposed to just be talk. and then they start doing shit.
jk rowling saying shit online about trans people is not the same as your crazy cousin rambling about stuff to your family at dinner. she has influence and reach, and people take her words seriously to the point that they go beyond thoughts into actions. and that's when it becomes dangerous. that's not to say talk can't be harmful, but it's not as permanent a harm if one person in your life says it and in order to escape that talk you can move to a more accepting place. if your talk makes everywhere unacceptable to someone because now that talk is everywhere, it's harm.
if you don't believe there is a difference between sex and gender, that's fine, but you have to respect that i believe it and allow me and others to act on our beliefs, so long as they don't hurt you in turn. and if talk about trans and non binary people being real upsets you and you want to walk away from it, feel free to do so, but remember that the stress you are seeking relief from when you want to not hear about trans shit is only a tiny fraction of the stress trans and non binary people are going through considering how your talk spreads and informs people about how to act towards those who are trans and non binary.
now, in considering all of this, social justice cannot be a religion, because it is not about what we believe, it's about how we act. because policing people on what they believe is always and has always been wrong, regardless of how morally right we may feel out beliefs to be. and since social justice is not a religion but an action, touting how much you believe in these things is not a form of activism. it's a form of touting. we're done spreading awareness now. everyone is aware that things are wrong. either doing something to make it right or shut up. and if the only thing you can do to "make it right" is to cause harm to others, then you are not seeking justice, you are seeking vengeance because you are not actually hurt. you are uncomfortable with the feelings that you have and don't know how to deal with them. if that's the case, i refer you back to shut up.
#lgbtqia#social justice#andrew doyle#you know what you said on c-span earlier today#let's talk about it
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