#doublethink

[defire]

Fun things about trauma bonds I learned in the cult

(Specifically talking about the bond between victims of the same abuse)

Content: real-life scenarios, ptsd, trauma bond, forced labor, doublethink, emotional repression

Feels like they are the only ones that could ever understand you

Having similar conditioned responses

Having similar extreme responses--things that should be just funny become choking-hazard hilarious, things that should get a chuckle get a synchronous shrug

On that note, often saying the exact same thing in the exact same tone

Specific things like whumper's tone of voice when they say a certain thing, would be a joke when they weren't there

Singing to cope with many hours of forced hard labor, immediately going silent when whumper entered

Talking about the trauma was OFF LIMITS, only code-speak that whumper couldn't understand could be used to warn each other

Only certain feelings were allowed to be shown because we had been conditioned that some feelings were "not safe"

Openly admitting to each other that it wasn't safe inside the house with whumper and then telling outsiders that we were totally safe and thinking we were telling the truth both times

All saying exactly the same lines to strangers (example "we are all wretches" *shrug*)

Married-couple-level nonverbal communication.

"do you want this extra food? I'll sneak it to you under the table." "Give it to [other victim]." "Watch out, whumper's looking." All happened nonverbally with eye and head movements right in front of whumper.

Working together seamlessly (or else!)

As soon as you leave the cult, the pressure that forced the bond in the first place, the trauma-bond relationship can fall apart

No good relationship ever feels as intense or close as the trauma bond, and you wonder what you're doing wrong. Till you realize you aren't panicking constantly--that's the main difference

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.

Irony is, insulting Cir-c, personally, is still better than insulting half the people on Earth and pretending you’re totally just kidding.

[crimson-and-clover-1717]

Ed’s Initial Intentions regarding Stede

Thank you so much for your attention to the poll. The consensus is it’s complicated - and I sort of agree - although I’m swayed towards Fascination alone.

This is my interpretation…

Stede causes Ed to access hidden or denied parts of himself before they’ve even met. And it causes a change in Ed’s behaviour. Ed’s come across many rich or aristocratic folks to rob whom he would see killed without issue; but not someone who’s also a pirate, doing their own original thing, and who seems ambivalent towards Blackbeard’s existence. It’s dopamine to Ed’s novelty-starved brain. It’s not as if Ed carries out a usual raid on the Revenge intending to kill Stede, only to find himself unexpectedly charmed. Ed’s bewitched even before he meets Stede, which means Ed’s entire approach and thought-processes are altered.

Killing Stede and the crew isn’t necessarily off the table should the need arise, but I don’t think it’s actively on in any capacity. There’s no plan, and there’s no ‘uszh’ for once either. Because none of this is uszh. Ed’s engagement with the Revenge is not his normal MO. History’s most brilliant tactician is free-styling. Possibly free-falling.

At the end of 102, Izzy states, ‘Captain says follow that ship.’ And Fang answers ‘Oh really? Why?’ To which Izzy replies, ‘How should I know? The man’s half-insane.’ This conversation shows this isn’t usual strategy. Even Fang asks why - he thought they’d seen the last of those ‘fancyboys’. And Ivan’s sad he didn’t get the chance to murder them, which seems the usual way of things. Plus they’d already had the chance to take or plunder the ship when it ran aground, so this stalking manoeuvre is out of the ordinary. It feels like wasted time and energy.

By the start of episode three, Blackbeard’s ship is a few hundred yards out from the Revenge, and Izzy’s trying to manipulate Ed into usual strategy again by suggesting opening fire, or boarding and throwing the Revenge crew to the sharks. Instead, Ed wants to wait until they make landfall and invite them aboard his ship. Ed’s doing something very different again because he’s unwittingly engaging with an unfamiliar part of himself. And interestingly ‘Go suck eggs in Hell’ appears not to insult, but to somewhat seduce him further. Before meeting Stede, he’s already out of his depth emotionally, and acting out of character, literally.

Despite what Ed would do normally, I just cannot see him landing on the Revenge with the active intent of plundering the ship and / or killing Stede and the crew. His words and actions suggest he’s already through the looking-glass.

So, to The Plan. We have three interesting moments which lead up to its revelation: the clothes swap, ‘careful of your face’ and ‘show me the ways of an aristocrat’.

For me, the three strands, which have no previous connection (other than Ed and Stede playing together), come together in Ed’s mind somewhere between Ed leaving Stede on the lookout, and Ed speaking with Izzy below: a matter of seconds. It reminds me of Keyser Söze in The Usual Suspects, pulling together disparate ideas into a cohesive story spontaneously. It’s the mind of a quick-thinker. And it’s in-keeping with Ed’s ability of reacting in the moment to the moment when necessary.

I think Ed also feels forced to perform Blackbeard for Izzy because Izzy’s threatening to leave pushes on that white father-figure emotional bruise. At this stage, Ed doesn’t have enough emotional loyalty to Stede to not voice such a plan; whilst his identity is still too caught in Izzy’s web to let him go - ‘you’re needed here’. For me, the plan to kill Stede is brought about in the moment via an act of psychological coercive control.

But Ed’s also kicking the can down the road. It’s a sort of Faustian bargain. Why not promise Izzy both their souls if it means Ed and Stede can hang out a little longer? Yet on another level Ed’s possibly hoping the debt won’t be called in, such is the complexity of the push and pull here. He’s putting it on the tab, the never-never. He’ll out-manoeuvre it if he decides that’s what he wants. Of course there’s doublethink going on because Ed’s in the middle of an identity crisis.

Ed daren’t admit his real reason for wanting to stay on the Revenge. He can’t comprehend himself even how deep this goes. His look as he turns is one of exhaustion and confusion. Stede Bonnet has him rattled. What started as a trickle of unease and ennui before they’d even met is now a whirlpool of unidentifiable feelings around both Stede, and Ed’s own perception of self.

Ed’s free-falling in liminal space.

[tilbageidanmark]

[yapoholics-anonymous]

the doublethink is crazy

[furiousgoldfish]

abusive parents: yells at you while you're doing something so you're under so much stress you cannot even think save concentrate on the task you're trying to do

abusive parents: yells at you louder at you for messing up as if they were not the direct and overwhelming cause of it

also abusive parents: I cannot think or work if you make any kind of noise!!!! How am I supposed to work?!???Be neither seen nor heard if I'm trying to get something done!!!!!

abusive parents: Children are supposed to take a yelling AND do tasks at the same time AND not be impacted AND not cry AND have the concentration to do things perfectly the first time with no instructions or guidance and under intense pressure and fear of punishment BUT if I AM doing something then I am a sensitive snowflake who needs perfect peace and quiet and love and support from everyone in the world or I wILL EXPLODE

[skateisawesome]

one thing everybody should know about me is that english is my favourite subject and solitaire is my favourite book so hold onto your popcorn while i introduce you to a concept that i love.

doublethink is the idea that two opposing concepts can be true at the same time. its from the book 1984 by george orwell. **

solitaire (and most of alice osemans books tbh) have this concept all over them. tori is depressed. she can also feel joy. michael is angry. but he is also grateful. tara can be confident in her sexuality. she can also not want to tell anyone. isaac can feel attraction towards james. this does not erase him being aroace. jane can be both a good and bad parent.

this idea of confliction is so beautiful to me and i think part of the reason that alice osemans books have absolutely captured me.

**thank you to derellenbogen who actually let me know that this is not what doublethink means. so this is actually not quite true and a better word would be juxtaposition!!

[burnitalldownism]

It’s funny the people who most often misattribute the socialist George Orwell’s ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’ to anything they don’t like.

They use it as a boogeyman for cultural, demographic and social changes. All while they’re the ones trying to change/erase history.

1984 was all about changing/erasing history as a means of control under a totalitarian and fascist technostate.

That was the whole ass point of the narrative!

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

Freedom to practice Islam, not freedom to not practice Islam.

[ahomelesscloud]

i just finished reading 1984 by george orwell and it has me feeling UNWELL.

1) no female will continue boinking a guy when they say to her face that he wanted to r word her and then unalive her when he first say her. I HATED WINSTON FOR SAYING THAT TO JULIA

2) it was such a slow read in the beginning but the last part had me on a chokehold because it went downhill so fast and had me hooked.

3) the whole concept of doublethink and thoughtcrime is so crazy???? i need to scream about this book because i cannot get it out of my system. winston being played my mr. charrington and o’brien made me feel bad about him.

4) julia saying that sex is their biggest weapon of revolution because they don’t want you orgasming and want that hysteria to use in wars and stuff is insane but makes a lot of sense.

5) i’m actually scared at how it’s human nature to throw anyone under the bus when you’re facing something you’re shit scared about. when o’brien said that it’s not cowardly to clutch at a rope when you’re falling down or breathe in deep air after feeling like you were drowning but it’s something normal affected me sm😭😭

6) I HAVE SM MORE TO SAY BUT I NEED TO SAH IT OUT LOUD AND SCREAM IT BECAUSE THIS BOOK JAS SUCCESSFULLY ALTERED MY BRAIN CHEMISTRY

[notaplaceofhonour]

I was watching a tiktok by a trans creator about trans media and was vibing with it when suddenly and without warning she referred to Biden as a “genocidal dictator” and that took me out of it entirely

like I’m sorry, what alternate reality do you live in where you’re calling a man genocidal for not dictating what another sovereign country does in the same breath as you’re calling him a dictator?

it’s worse than “you’re damned if you do, you’re damned if you don’t”, you’re damned for both doing and not doing at the same time. it doesn’t matter what you do because they’ve already decided you’re guilty of both at the same time.

deeply unserious people

[siryouarebeingmocked]

It's funny how "bad people endorsing you" shows Trump is wrong when it happens to him, and he’s supposed to disavow them, but the exact opposite when it's to Kamala Harris..

[j4r-of-flies]

More than half way through 1984 by George Orwell and all I have to say is WOW

This book is too good man

[joridrw]

trying to trick myself into believing that the spoiler I saw isn't really going to happen on a george orwell level

[arcenciel-par-une-larme]

And once again, this hellsite proves for the umpteenth time that it cannot get its internal narratives straight for even a minute. They cannot even decide whether the official consensus is:

A. “Narcissistic abuse isn’t real. Narcissists are some of the most wonderful people I’ve ever met in my life. Your abuser was not a narcissist, and even if s/he was, you probably did something to deserve being abused. If you think that there is such a thing as narcissistic abuse or that narcs don’t deserve our uttermost unconditional love, acceptance, and inclusion, then UNFOLLOW ME AND K.Y.S. YOU ABLEIST BIGOT!!!”

or

B. “It seemed to me that you accused someone of being a narcissist without evidence! That is disgusting! How DARE YOU accuse someone of something so heinous without having any evidence! You are the worst ever! In fact, this proves that you’re projecting! YOU are the narcissist, and YOU are the abusive one! I WILL PRAY TO SATAN THAT Y’ALL BIGOTS ARE SENT TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND THEN I WILL BE LAUGHING MY HEAD OFF AS HE TORTURES YOUR NARCISSISTIC ABUSIVE ARSES IN HELL FOREVER!!!!!”

Like...which one is it, my lovelies? WHICH ONE IS IT??

@anscathmarcach

[siryouarebeingmocked]

The biggest irony, of course, is that if Sara actually supported mainstream feminism, she wouldn’t be a radfem.

Then again, radfems regularly mistake themselves for feminism in general, even though mainstream feminists disagree.

Just another sad example of radfem self-delusion.