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sonicblueartist · 1 year ago
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Little Bit Of The Past
I was thinking, we never got the chance to know about Bullfrog's past. I mean he's the only one we know the least about; except he is an assassin, he is the last of them and he has some moral codes and apparently he knows a lot/ have experience about vengeance.
AND that he was used to watch Rayman as a kid. (And that he took part in a war. Okay I learned the war's name. The wasteland war.)
This gives us a waay more open space to fill in. And I can happily do that with my own headcanon. (I might add it in my fics too but not too sure lol, it's all up to you guys wanting me to add it or not)
So I first thought maybe he had a pretty normal life as a kid. Grew up in a family with a mom and dad. I also thought (because frogs literally give birth to so many babies) he has a lot of brothers and sisters?
Maybe Rayman when he was a kid (like most of the kids) was his favorite show.
I am going to make this post a bit quick so... One day some soldiers came and killed his parents and took his siblings and him prisoner. Some assassins rescued him and taught him their ways. He ignores it and goes to rescue his siblings but finds them all dead? And he wanted revenge so he finds the person did all this and killed him but it was nearly costing his life as his mentor saved him but he died in the process and he swears to never follow the path of vengeance ever again.
This was my take on why he doesn't like vengeance. That's all, thank you for reading! (Still not feeling like this is his entire past but this will do for now~ Btw I have no idea how he is the last assassin. I don't know if there is a canon part of this but if not I am gonna assume that they all died in that war and he is the only survivor. I believe this because when Pey'j died his reaction gave me the vibe maybe something similar happened in his past, because he looked so desperate and upset (yeah he was his friend even though he knew him a little it might be normal but still))
Also off topic but I don't believe he died (his bomb activated) in the end when Laserhawk pressed the button and activated his bomb. I dunno but I have a feeling that Bullfrog is now freed with the bracelet broken. (He is still held by Eden but still lol) But I am sure Sarah has some big plans for him. (Because he is seemingly the only one that still alive lol) And if someone is alive in a show this means something will happen XD I am also really unsure if Rayman/Ramon will be the one to save him but anyway.
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kaylaz-world-00 · 1 year ago
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I was thinking, we never got the chance to know about Bullfrog's past. I mean he's the only one we know the least about; except he is an assassin, he is the last of them and he has some moral codes and apparently he knows a lot/ have experience about vengeance.
AND that he was used to watch Rayman as a kid. (And that he took part in a war. Okay I learned the war's name. The wasteland war.)
This gives us a waay more open space to fill in. And I can happily do that with my own headcanon. (I might add it in my fics too but not too sure lol, it's all up to you guys wanting me to add it or not)
So I first thought maybe he had a pretty normal life as a kid. Grew up in a family with a mom and dad. I also thought (because frogs literally give birth to so many babies) he has a lot of brothers and sisters?
Maybe Rayman when he was a kid (like most of the kids) was his favorite show.
I am going to make this post a bit quick so... One day some soldiers came and killed his parents and took his siblings and him prisoner. Some assassins rescued him and taught him their ways. He ignores it and goes to rescue his siblings but finds them all dead? And he wanted revenge so he finds the person did all this and killed him but it was nearly costing his life as his mentor saved him but he died in the process and he swears to never follow the path of vengeance ever again.
This was my take on why he doesn't like vengeance. That's all, thank you for reading! (Still not feeling like this is his entire past but this will do for now~ Btw I have no idea how he is the last assassin. I don't know if there is a canon part of this but if not I am gonna assume that they all died in that war and he is the only survivor. I believe this because when Pey'j died his reaction gave me the vibe maybe something similar happened in his past, because he looked so desperate and upset (yeah he was his friend even though he knew him a little it might be normal but still))
Also off topic but I don't believe he died (his bomb activated) in the end when Laserhawk pressed the button and activated his bomb. I dunno but I have a feeling that Bullfrog is now freed with the bracelet broken. (He is still held by Eden but still lol) But I am sure Sarah has some big plans for him. (Because he is seemingly the only one that still alive lol) And if someone is alive in a show this means something will happen XD I am also really unsure if Rayman/Ramon will be the one to save him but anyway.
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rin-solo · 3 days ago
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My favorite post-EPIC headcanon is that Odysseus' family is just completely accepting of all the unhinged sh*t that he's done.
Odysseus, over dinner, some 2 months after his return: And then I finned the sirens, letting them drown. We ate the tails later.
Telemachus, starry-eyed: OMG GUYS THAT'S MY DAD!! THAT IS!! MY DAD!! (points excitedly) ISN'T HE INCREDIBLE?
Odysseus: And later when he wouldn't stop being in my way I stabbed a god repeatedly with his own trident.
Penelope, heart-eyed: That's my husband. My love. Love of my life. You slay, my king.
The rest of the people at the table are 100% freaked out and probably terrified, btw.
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seeminglyseph · 2 months ago
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Apollo's entire vibe in God Games feels like "Dad Said I Had to Be Here" and I feel like that's so Golden Child of him
#seph listens to epic#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#apollo epic the musical#wisdom saga spoilers#i don't know why this is the funniest thing to me#like ive been listening to god games a lot#and like i think ares really wants to try and prove himself against athena#and hephaestus and hera want her to give at least one solid argument even if it doesn't have to be important to anyone else#aphrodite has like... a personal issue that needs to be argued but like. that's how love is. fickle and in need of personal justification#apollo like. did not bring a personal justification to the table. he even has sun imagery in the animatic#like yeah the song did not specify it was helios' cows and the musical has a theme of fathers getting vengeance for their sons#aeolus was a king in the Odyssey not a god so changing the sun god from helios to apollo whose cattle were slain is very minor#and would emphasize the theme of fathers and children and cycles of vengeance and Helios does get absorbed by Apollo so like. augh#either way. this guy did not prepare for the debate because he has so many other jobs and grabbed the latest thing he could think of#'Odysseus... uh. he. sirens. right. did that thing right? no? if that's true fuck it. if not i don't care.'#he doesn't even fully commit. he says 'if that's true release him'#he got that fucking prophet trickster tongue bullshit noncommittal agreement#because technically if Athena is proven faulty he can be like 'i said if it's true release him but it wasn't true oops'#don't expect straight answers from the god of prophets
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rhaenathelesbian · 3 months ago
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omg the rhaenyra-walder frey parallels
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diagonal-queen · 1 year ago
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i found this in a folder
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skyblueartt · 5 months ago
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Me theorizing about the motives behind a fictional killer
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waspgrave · 28 days ago
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i'm all caught up with vows and vengeance and i can't believe i truly have no idea who i want to romance. I thought 'perhaps i'll be immune to the old man' but my god he's so sweet and i adore his voice. Also Manfred 😭
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golden-alchemy · 2 months ago
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logically we may never seen Battison have Dick and Jason but I feel the thematic return of "Sins Of The Father" arc coming full circle with Jason / Red Hood would just go so hard
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alicentwhore · 2 months ago
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Okay I don’t wanna sound like a dick cause it’s really not a big deal. But I guess because Medea as a play and character is like really important to me, there is kind of an amusing irony to the way I’ve seen so many edits and webweaves and stuff of Alicent with that “wretchedest of women” line from Medea (A line specifically about Medea choosing to kill her sons to avenge herself on Jason). Then those people being completely aghast and disgusted and pissed by the concept of Alicent sacrificing her sons. It means nothing It’s just kinda funny to me
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yarrayora · 2 years ago
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servamp is like you will let your children inherit the blood that has been shed in your war and your children's children will teach their children that this is normal, this is what it takes to be a person. and then one day they'll realize hey this is wrong. the world doesn't have to be like this! but you have never taught them how to resolve conflict without blood. but they know hurting others will simply continue the cycle of violence, so the blood they shed will be their own
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fishermcn · 7 days ago
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sirenofthegreenbanks · 1 year ago
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hiiii really enjoyed your chenglingposting i was thinking about how sometimes the kids in adult stories function as a sort of barometer for optimism about the future in their views and options in life... obviously the alliance wants to continue the cycle of antagonizing and vengeance and conflict with the veneer of "honor" but. zcl gets to choose not to. its been a while since I either read or watched, do you know if zcl was ever onboard with actually wanting vengeance or if that was just being pushed on him? Obv its not super in line w his personality but grief could be a factor. i just thought it'd make a lot of sense if he changed his mind on that due to the influence of wenzhou and how they prioritize enjoying life w your people and following your own path over expectations. priest really took one more chance to emphasize breaking cycles/"if it sucks hit the bricks"
hi!! omg!!! thank you and im glad you enjoyed it! honestly this is a question i have been thinking about since at least two rereads ago. the show and the novel are handling this issue of zcl picking up his legacy / giving in to external expectations / finding out what he really wants in life a little differently, i think, as befitting of what they both focus on. ive said in my chenglingpost that the show is about legacy and inheritance in my eyes, while the novel is about martial arts and freedom of choice. obvs freedom of choice is a high priority in word of honor as well, but word of honor seems to have an overarching look, kind of focusing on the big picture and what a generation / a community needs rather than a few individuals, while the novel focuses exclusively on wenzhou and their little group and seems to handle the rest of the themes in priest's usual style. the show is about something "grand", the novel is about the mundane, almost boring human experience. martial arts play a bigger role in the latter too because they are a stand-in for many things that are hard to grasp, like autonomy. in chengling's context, martial arts are irrevocably linked with seeking revenge. i think that is specifically in the novel the case, not so much in the show. in the show seeking revenge is pushed onto him by others as well as inheriting his sect's legacy and becoming worthy of being his father's son. in the novel, the idea of seeking revenge is first presented to him by gu xiang, and it is actually this huge contrast to how others treat him because others "generously" offer to take revenge for him, while gu xiang tells him he can do that himself. we see with wen kexing that getting revenge does not make u happy. it gives u closure but it does not make u happy. i think that is something chengling learns during the novel. he gets closure in the end but it does not look the way he had imagined it would. i think he imagined himself to get super strong and then single-handedly slay his foes. yknow, as u often see in wuxia and as wen kexing literally does. then he starts learning martial arts and realizes getting super strong is actually not that easy, and this chasm between what he expects of himself and what he is able to achieve gets wider and wider and he falls into depression spirals, because to chengling, seeking revenge was taking ownership of his life and his trauma, and what use does he have when he cant even do that? that is the path wen kexing walks and it hollowed him out and it would have him kill himself if he hadnt met zhou zishu; wen kexing viewed himself as an instrument for a very long time rather than as someone deserving of having his own life. so obvs, that path is rubbish by itself (wkx gets his revenge and his closure and his life, good for him!) and its far too much for a kid. and i think, that is what chengling learns here: he only needs to do as much as he can, only bite off what he can chew, and the rest should not be his concern. and there really turns out to be a way to get everything he needs without walking the same path as wen kexing, as the novel proves, because wen kexing had nobody when he was in the same situation while trying to survive the valley, while chengling has wenzhou who guide him and shield him and love him. (crying myself into a huddle over wen kexing and chengling and them being foils of each other.) so in that sense youre already putting it into words. chengling seems to have changed his mind over the course of the novel, he doesnt have that same outlook on vengeance as he as in the start. i think thats different for the show. in the show, there is this weighing of the concept of revenge against the concept of getting justice, and what both these things do and require of a person and what they can offer u as an individual, but also u as a collective, in the long run. they are seen as two different things and are explored and qestioned individually. i think that can be seen in the conflict with chengling and all these expectations everyone has of him and how he handles that.
#i cant say much more regarding the show rn. but i think it does something very similar to the novel#re: wen kexing and chengling getting their closure parallel to each other and being foils of each other#one walking a path the other doesnt have to or doesnt get to#chengling is kinda symbolically getting the kind of justice wkx would have deserved to and gets now through chengling#but for the show#their closure is not just holding the big bad accountable. its also the community effort of forging a better future together#aa this went off track. but i cant get into more detail re: chengling and vengeance for the show. still in my rewatch!#i hope this answers your question anyway!!!!#thank you for sending it to me i had a lot of fun!#i have a lot more to say but tumblr seems to impose a word limit on answering asks! >:(#something something martial arts are zzs's way of communication and he uses that rather than his words to give chengling what he needs#something something practising martial arts helps chengling discover the boundaries of his own body and reverts him back into a child#rather than the orphaned failure of a son who needs revenge to give himself meaning. like a tool.#something something martial arts is both chengling's cause of suffering and his tool of freeing himself#something something zzs knows for pretty much most of the novel that zcl has this grand potential inside him and simply ignores it#something something chengling's shifu (he has a shifu in the novel before zzs!) is an idiot who doesnt even see his disciple's potential#who blames chengling instead of reflecting upon himself (and how thats kinda like schools blaming neurodivergent and other kids for failing#and how zzs notices chengling's inert dormant potential / difficulty practically immediately and is probs uniquely qualified to teach him#drawing from his own experience with harsh teaching methods and surviving impossible tasks and breaking through body limits and difficultie#paired with being bamf at martial arts and probs having this vast pool of knowledge#something something zzs acting nasty but doing good (and nobody knows) and chengling turning out happier and more stable in the end#inbox#geneticcatalyst#tian ya ke#faraway wanderers#word of honor#meta#zhang chengling#zhou zishu#wen kexing
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golgibodyodyody · 1 year ago
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Watched the Robert Patterson Batman movie tonight and it was pretty funny.
My favourite parts:
- my mom: “I’ve never seen this guy before. Who is he?”
Me: “Robert Patterson. You know, the one from twilight.”
Her: “ohh, right. I was asleep for most of that”
My mom proceeded to spend the majority of this film asleep as well. Probably even more so than twilight. I guess Robert Patterson just has that effect on her. (that is a joke. My mom sleeps through like 90% movies regardless of cast. Especially action movies. Maybe she is just soothed by violence.)
- Selena ❤️❤️❤️😳😳😳🤭🤭🥰🥰🥰🫣🫣🫣
- I love how Batman is just some guy in a weird costume who shows up places. He’s just so ridiculous in a realistic setting and I love how bewildered everyone is by his appearance like “who are you and wtf are you wearing you look ridiculous”
- Selena being like “you must be rich 🙄🙄” to Batman and Batman being like “uhh what makes you say that O_O;;”
- also every time Selena was shit talking Bruce Wayne to Batman. Very funny
- when Batman and the riddler were face timing and you could see Batman in the little fucking window at the top of the phone screen. It was just so funny I couldn’t stop laughing through that entire scene it was just so goofy looking
- the penguin car chase
- when the penguin got tied up at his feet so he could only shuffle like a penguin
- actually the penguin in general was pretty funny. Loved his accent. Loved all of the accents in this movie tbh. I love accents
- also my brain is so poisoned by memes that every time the “there’s something in the way” song came on all I could think of was “there’s something in my ass. MmmmMmmMmmMm” but I feel like it added more than detracted from the experience
Solid 4/5 movie
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anonanamantha · 13 days ago
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Bold of you to assume they would fight. They would all just go "Soo.... How is Penelope doing in your universe" "I don't knowwww, I've been at sea for yearsss" "Samee"
So, you know all the different interpretations in how people draw (epic) Odysseus ?
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(Gigi, duvetbox, aniflamma, Ximena Natzel, and Wolfythewitch respectively)
What version of Odysseus (including but not limited to these examples) would win against the others in a fight?
Comment / reblog with the Odysseus drawings you want to see, and who you think would win. Polls start soon
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in-class-daydreams · 3 months ago
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Imagine a very awkward situation with ex-husband Gojo when he finds you straddling Sukuna’s lap.
You’re in Sukuna’s office at the Kyoto school and no, it’s not what it looks like. Really.
Sukuna has been all over the place lately between teaching, missions, and maintaining his own abilities and developed “CE sickness,” in which the level of cursed energy inside someone is more than the body can handle. Satoru liked to call it sorcerer flu.
The best way to manage CE sickness is to release some cursed energy (obvs) but because Sukuna’s technique is so destructive, a better bet was to have you, the CE vampire, consume his cursed energy.
Your lips are attached to his neck when your ex walks in. Satoru freezes like a frightened animal. Sukuna rolls his eyes and pulls you off him by the back of your neck like a kitten.
“Thanks for helpin’ me out, mama,” Sukuna says on his way out the door. After he brushes past Satoru, Sukuna scoffs. “Like the kid would ever respect me again if I started fuckin’ his mom.”
Had Satoru been wearing pearls, he’d be clutching them with a vengeance. You could say it’s not Satoru’s business who you do or do not get physical with, but you would’ve reacted similarly if you’d seen him like that.
“CE sickness,” you tell him. While you’re patting him on the back, he doubles over and puts his hands on his knees.
“Honestly thought I was gonna yak,” he says.
“On the bright side, you took it better than your son would’ve. Sen hollow purples first, asks questions later.”
“He’s a better man than me.”
“Satoru!”
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