#valangel kid

[anime-owo-kage-san]

I’m not one to do research, but I’ve heard (and watched on youtube) that female jumping spiders would eat their mates even after letting them mate with them, (and it would give nutrients to their babies, so… noble sacrifice from the dad 🎉)

Imagine Valentino drops a pregnant Angel off at the hotel and begs someone else to take care of him, because he’s tired of staying up all night to guard his own bedroom door (that already has like three different locks plus the knob). Due to Angel randomly craving to chomp off Val’s head, instead of the food Val had prepared based on what the dietitian listed.

Valentino: “A-Angelcakes! Wait!” *backing up in the corner*

Valentino: “If you’re craving for people, I’ll happily get you some! I’ll call Voxxy, and tell him to bring his lowest earners here in the penthouse!”

Angel: *mentally in spider mode and crawling on the ceiling towards Val*

Valentino: *shrieking and rushing to call Vox on his phone*

As Rosie once said, “Who hasn’t thought of eating their first husband?”

For the record though, I still imagine this to be more on the step-dad Husk/Valangel kid treated as Huskerdust kid thing. Husk (and probably Alastor bc he’s Alastor) would get a kick out of seeing Angel chase Val like a hungry predator.

Valentino would instantly regret doing the baby trapping scheme.

[antholojade]

redesign of dusk bc her first outfit i lowkey pulled out of my ass lol.

love this better - the frilled culottes are everything 😭💞

[urproblematicfav-arsonk]

Absolutely going fucking insane over wivensbane's new pins

Lisa frank!val is real

Crying and throwing up look at him oh my god

[hazbmymhotel]

Might RP a toxic!soulmate au with wife for Husk x mordecai

Maybe

With some valangel mixed in

Possible huskerdust of wishing to escape

But being t r a p p e d

Soulmates as a horror concept.

You WILL love this person. It doesn't matter who you loved before; any feelings you had, any promises you made, they will become inconsequential as soon as you lock eyes with the stranger Fate has picked for you.

There's no way to stop it.

There's no way to say "no."

You will meet someone and with a single glance, both of you will become someone new, someone who's now bound to this stranger whether you like it or not, want it or not.

Trapped in a dance together until the day you die.

[doodler16]

I have seen people deadass get NSFW prints of Hazbin characters signed by the actors, one being a dad who was with his 11 year old daughter holding a Charlie print that had her ass out and making a suggestive face while he got it signed telling the VA about how Charlie has “the hottest ass in Hell” and how “Charlie may not be real but at least you are” to the actor in front of his own kid. I have seen people get ValAngel prints signed and prints of their own ships signed. And as a Hazbin fan myself, its such bullshit Vivziepop is saying Limus getting their sign signed is what ticked her off. So it was okay when people were bringing their 7 year old kids to have stuff signed? When people were telling the voice actors they were explicitly horny for their character? When people asked actors when they were gonna marry the actor of their ship? When Angel’s old VA was harassed? Viv only cares when its about HER and only made the post about Limus because she took personal offense. If it was “for the comfort/safety of the actors” or whatever, she would have said something before about the other incidents. But she didn’t.

Limus be looking like a saint right now compared to that father who wanted Charlie’s VA to sign Charlie’s ass cheeks with their eleven year old daughter tagging along. 😂

[peachi-blossom]

Trios that are better than the Vees

Of all the Vees, I officially loathe Valentino for being constantly babied by Vivienne Medrano and her cult because I just can't hold my anger anymore after seeing the ValAngel poster on Streamily (the artist who drew this didn't even want to ship them). I have written six scenarios of Valentino's punishment.

Scenario 1, he gets beaten by the Powerpuff Girls and gets arrested. Just kidding, he gets a one punch kill from Bubbles. Nobody wants him to live, right?

Scenario 2, he gets soaked by Francisca's Shaken Soda Slider, electrocuted by Zan Partizanne's Rare Electro Eclair, and incinerated by Flamberge's Fast Mega Broiler. The rapist moth is reduced to ashes.

Scenario 3, he gets annihilated by the Azalea Sisters' doppels and the Daito Apartment Trio's doppels. The doppels I'm talking are from the game, not the anime. Or maybe a little bit a both. Rest in peace, Magia Record (August 22, 2017- July 31, 2024). You were a great game.

Scenario 4, he gets melted by Mortality. Everyone wants to see his demise. Plus, nobody wants to celebrate Christmas with him either.

Scenario 5, he gets Oblivion Wing'd (turned into stone) by Yveltal and smashed into pieces by the Elite Trio's Banzai Bill/Bomber Bill. I watched Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction on YouTube and played Mario and Luigi: Dream Team as a kid.

Scenario 6, he gets beaten up by everyone and sent into the Distortion World by Giratina for ALL ETERNITY. Nobody will find him nor miss him. He will be forgotten by everyone.

I may loathe Charlie Morningstar, but the punishment goes to Valentino because he deserved to die for being constantly babied by Vivienne Medrano and her cult.

Merry Christmas!

[gartenofbanny]

Hello! I am currently trying to make a document including all evidence of Viv's problematic behaviour, and since you're quite popular in the critical community, I wanted to ask your opinion on the structure of it. If I missed anything feel free to correct me!

Vivziepop is a horrible person

I-early signs

-Nazi sausage party ocs (inspred by doctor Mengele, following a nazi blog

-drawing Kesha and glorifying her illness

-Zoophobia (contains the Addison drawings, Mirage being depicted as goofy when she's a pedo, Sahara and Latika designs

-supporting blaire white and Shoe0nhead (her too since Shoe has recently been revealed as a neo nazi)

-transphobia (discord messages)

-drawing Mimzi as a caricature/stereotype of Jewish people

II-Spindlehorse & twitter

-Raphielle shipping valangel, saying their a proshipper and still working on SH

-Following multiple proshippers, including someone who used audios of REAL kids for his digital CP and someone who actively ships Rick/Morty

-allowing and encouraging the harrasment of people who critique her shows to the point they are forced to come out or receive rape threats

-Blaming A24 for the lack of competent advertisement on Hazbin Hotel and replacing the voice cast

-encouraging harassing Erin Frost and Kendraw for coming out with their experience with her

-Studio reviews revealing the nepotism and abuse in the SH studio

III- The shows

-finn/ cole was made cis when he was originally trans

-sally mae only regarded by the fandom as a trap or futa, sexualised in every piece of her merch with her dick being emphasized to the point the fandom fetishizes her

-alastor being made creole or mixed as an afterthought, when Viv had already used real life voodoo symbols, very clearly inspiring alastor from Wendigos without any research, made him white as paper and depicted him as the 100th " asexual and aromantic person is an evil murderer!".

His asexuality and possible aromanticism is always ignored by the fandom in favor of shipping, and inclusive Vivziepop even said to do as they pleased with his sexuality for shipping.

-forced positivity, pushing the idea that even murderers, abusers and horrible people can change hazbin hotel

Depicting abuse (Crimson hitting Moxxie, the whole Valangel tag existing) and sexual assault (again woth Moxxie and angel) as funny jokes or sexy

-Noticing a pattern, Viv tends to promote M/M relationships a lot but depicts them as overtly sexual, predatory and toxic, and seems to have a problem with having "twink" characters abused sexually in a yaoi-ish way (Addison, Moxxie and Angel, Vox. Stolas/blitz too.)

-the only two people of color that are confirmed are Alastor, Velvette and Valentino. Velvette's color is very ashy and she is often infantilised (this might have more to do with her being a woman in Vivs eyes) she presents no POC features at all, neither does Valentino who is a stereotypical black man who is a pimp, abusive (sexually too) and has a short temper.

-using "it's hell " as an excuse to make horrible characters to glorify and depict as the true victim while doing nothing to become better. (Ex. Stolas is a rapist , Blitzo Sexually harrasses his co-workers and is very toxic, Alastor is a serial killer.) Depiction is not glorification, but Viv actively makes it seem like all of it is okay to do and has a show who has a very negative message that affects the viewers and fanbase into excusing disgusting shit.

-disrespecting religion by not accurately researching the demons she talks about

-Sexist writing in helluva and hazbin that favores males(Loona,Millie,Stella, Verosika)

-ableist language by Blitzo, refusal to acknowledge this and even joking about not being able to say a slur

-collaborates with Brandon Rogers,whose work is clearly sexist,racist,homophobic and ableist

-making fun of eating disorders (Moxxie)

-involving kesha in her show while she is trying to get justice for being abused and trying to recover, making the character she voices based on all the things she hated about herself

-included famous voice actors, pays thousands for them but actively underpaid and overworked her staff

-No trigger on an episode that contained Blitzo vomiting

-Barbie wire grooming a teenager is considered a joke (and the tweet doesn't count, we should be able to tell if the teen was actually older by his design or any line of dialogue, if those who don't have twitter won't know it means it's a problem)

-various incest jokes hinting at proshipping (Moxxie/Millie, and a rumor +dialogue cues hint at Andrealphus and Stella being in a relashionship)

-merch of almost all female characters being somewhat sexual

-depicting the Woman/Man as the only healthy relationship (Moxxie/Millie) while the queer couples are toxic (Chaz/Moxxie Blitzo/Stolas)

Holy shit that's a long read, I suggest you make that into a blog post or something. The only portion I can assume that you got correct is the third section. Most of the first two sections are spot on to me, but I am not sure if they're both completely correct because I'm not really aware of what Vivziepop did in the past, just what she has been doing since like last year. Sorry to disappoint, but it is pretty great from what I'm reading.

Modify it to what you think is best so that people will read from it and test read it yourself in case you got something wrong. I suggest you use Grammarly for grammar or spelling issues because even though English is my first language I still struggle with those

[chaifootsteps]

Also, maybe SOMEONE WHO HAS RAPE FETISH SHOULDN'T BE STORTBOARDING/HELPING WITH A SERIOUS EPISODE ABOUT RAPE???

She can claim till she's blue in the face:

"I won't shame anyone for their kinks"

OKAY, BUT RAPHS KINK IS STRAIGHT UP NOT CONSENT.

"He has a "cnc" kink don't kinkshame!!"

Having a cnc kink isn't the problem. Portraying SA isn't the problem.

Having a rape fetishisit who HARASSED A 15 YEAR OLD, AND HAS DRAWN TONS OF NONCONSENSUAL ART OF VALANGEL IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

Say it with me kids:

VALANGEL IS NOT CONSENSUAL.

Can someone please come and finally cancel Viv's disgusting show? Please?

She's proven how immature and thoughtless she really is.

HAVING SOMEONE WITH A RAPE FETISH TO HELP BOARD/CHOREOGRAPH IS NOT GOOD SA REP VIV.

GOOD GOD.

This. The CNC part in particular has been irritating me to no end, because CNC has nothing to do with Raph and Viv and the Angel Dust problem.

Consensual non-consent involves consenting people, safewords, the whole nine yards. CNC is what Niffty's into. What Raph and Viv like is straight up fictional rape, which would be fine if it weren't slipping its way into their ostensibly serious story about sexual violence.

[kittykatkatelol]

Valentino Always Got Bored ~ Oneshot ~ StaticMoth, ValAngel

Vox returned to his office, his mood sour - he'd just been arguing with Valentino, again, about who? Angel fucking Dust. It was all that bastard talked about anymore. Talking about work? "Angel did this", "Angel's shoot", "Angel had to wear this". Talking about lunch? "Angel made some lovely Italian food last night", "I showed Angel what true Latino food tasted like". Everything that seemed to come out of Valentino's mouth was related to Angel in some way. He'd just been down there to keep Valentino from shooting up that tacky ass hotel for the fifth time this month because of none other than motherfucking Angel Dust.

Vox had agreed to let Valentino train Angel for longer than most whores purely because Valentino had seemed so set on Angel being a good money maker - they could always get richer - Not to become second to some cum dumpster whore addict who should have stayed on the streets.

Work. Work, that'll take your mind off things. Vox thought, trying to control his temper at he opened up the hub of statistics and margins, a few cameras in the background to keep an eye on Val and Velv- ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! He was just complaining about that boney assed twink and now he's making out with him-

Just work. Just work. We can force that bastard home tonight, for now just fucking work.

Vox did work, though he spent most of his hours in his office just daydreaming about all the ways he'd hurt Angel the minute Valentino got bored. He always got bored with his whores eventually, and Vox could easily say he was more than ready for Val to become bored with Angel.

There was always the option of freeing Angel of his contract, but where's the fun in that? Keep him on contract, means Vox could do whatever he wanted the minute Val got bored. He could chain him up, chop his limbs off one by one, watch him sob as he hypnotized him into thinking of how everyone he loved would perish pathetically - the things he wished he could do.

Vox would just have to be patient. Valentino always got bored of his whores, he would never get bored of Vox. He would make sure of it. And he would make sure Angel paid for keeping his precious moth away from him for so long. He could almost taste it.

Vox smiled to himself at the thought before returning to his work.

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[A/N: I HAVENT WRITTEN IN SO LONG BUT I HOPE THIS IS GOOD PLZ LET ME KNOW IF I NEED TO PUT A TW OR CW ON IT]

[hazbin-mpreg]

#5 and B of the parents ship game for all ships?

#5: who’s constantly up checking on the baby?

Radioapple: surprisingly enough? It’s Alastor! I know it’s canon he doesn’t particularly sleep, so he often reassures Lucifer the babies will be okay

Chaggie: mix of Charlie and Vaggie, though Charlie tends to be the one to check on the babies

Radiohusk: considering it’s just Husk taking care of her- it’s well… Husk

Radiostatic: While Alastor doesn’t sleep, it’s actually Vox who checks up on Aimee

Staticmoth: Val checks in on the babies more then Vox due to motherly instincts

Valangel: nanny cares for Chiara

Radiodust: mix of both tbh, though it’s usually Alastor that checks on Josie

Huskerdust: mix of both, considering the babies don’t really have a sleep schedule due to be nocturnal by nature, they’re all basically up throughout the night

B: How was their first night?

Only doing these w/ one kid each (and not doing valangel bc of he backstory-)

Radioapple

Antionette - After a much needed clean up, for the most part they all rested. Antoinette barely made a peep, the only time she truly fussed was when she was hungry

Radiodust

Josephine - it was a bit difficult getting rest since she was a hospital birth, so the nurses were constantly popping in and out to check up on Angel and Josie both. Though Angel managed to get a few naps in, but he was more focused on holding Josie and bonding with her

Radiostatic

Aimee - While Alastor and Vox aren’t exactly in a relationship, Alastor made sure to tend to Vox’s needs, allowing the other to rest. He actually took care of Aimee quite a bit and the first night went much smoother then either expected

Staticmoth

Vespera - honestly- Vespera was a very fussy newborn. Nothing was wrong health wise, she was just trying to get used to her surroundings. Needless to say, it was a very sleepless night for everyone

Radiohusk

Lauralie - Husk was exhausted, so he slept on and off with Lauralie who was also content to take small naps with him. She wasn’t too fussy that first night as long as she was with Husk.

Chaggie

Violet - Charlie straight up refused to sleep, as tired as she was- she was so amazed that her tiny baby was finally in her arms!

Huskerdust

Venus - For the most part Husker was insistent on Angel resting, and he watched over Venus. She was quite sleepy little thing, content to rest on Husk and only truly fusssed if she needed fed or changed.

[anime-owo-kage-san]

Thanks to this fanfic I read called A Little Bean on Ao3, I discovered a Parents!Huskerdust concept I really love.

Kinda dark but wholesome at the same time, so read below the cut at your own risk.

- The idea that Angel (as messed up as it is) gets knocked up by Valentino, but instead of being devastated, he loves the baby, and separates how he feels about Val from the baby.

Infact the baby was the last straw he needed, to lash out on Val. And Val just realized having a baby with Angel made him loose even more control of Angel. He agrees to everything Angel wants and the space he needs, to avoid getting beaten and yelled at.

Bc: I headcannon that Angel’s (Anthony’s) mom, was too afraid of her husband, and just let him do whatever he wanted to her sons, she only protects Molly, because she’s the only one who doesn’t resemble her father.

But because of that experience, Angel doesn’t give two shits that his baby is a moth. He’ll protect his flesh and blood.

- And Husk is there to assist, unintentionally becoming some sort of co-parent (this is before he and Angel start dating).

- Extra bonus: Alastor actually respects and commends both Angel and Husk’s attitude towards the ‘unborn baby’, (because, since Journey to the Light isn’t canon, I headcanon Alastor also resembles his dad more, but his mom loved him unconditionally regardless)

- When baby is born (I’m gonna say she, bc I already drew her): She gives absolutely no fucks, about Valentino, even as a clueless baby.

When Val’s in her sight, she just…. stares. Not menacingly, and fearfully, she’s just absolutely numb to his presence. Even when Val, carried her and held her in front of a mirror to show their resemblance, she only blinks without any feeling. She only starts squirming in joy, and giggles when Angel returns to the room. Or when Husk (whom she imprinted on) walks in.

Also lol:

Baby: “Pa….” *eyes instantly lights up* “Papa! Papa! Papa!”

Valentino: “Ha! Finally!” *lifts her into the air* “Yes, darling! Papa! And you’re mamacita thought, you would never call me th—“

Baby: *points behind Val* “Papa! Papa!”

Valentino: “Huh…?” *turns around and see Husk*

Husk: “Yeah, I think she’s talking about me. Give her here.” *takes the baby and walks away*

Valentino: “Are you fucking kidding me!?—OW!” *get hit in the head by a frying pan*

Angel: *holding the frying pan* “Don’t flipping swear, in front of my baby, you butthole!”

Valentino: “She’s MY baby too!”

Angel: “With the way she acts around you? I don’t think so. Your sperm, but my spawn. Get out. Let me deal with you later at work!”

Valentino: “Going! I’m going!”

Like I said, I drew my own fankid already. If anyone’s interested, I might post the art once I finish her up.

[coaxol0tl]

My valangel kid, Violetta

I wanted her to be super cutesy, I haven't drawn her in color but ik I want her to have a similar one to anfel

[mothmanadjacent]

hey you definitely dont have to answer this publicly, i just wanted to say im sorry abt that anon.

as somebody who selfships w val, its those 'fans' that make me not want to interact w the fandom or commission selfship art of me w him.

i dont know why a show abt literal hell and literal demons attracts so many actual morons but either way im sorry you got that ask ! your art is amazing

Thank you!! For the record, I LOVE selfships and you can commission me for it any GD time and I'd HAPPILY draw it for you 🩷🩷🩷

I think theres just a lot of younger kids and people in their early 20s who just don't understand fandoms? Like they see someone liking something "immoral" and automatically try to connect a person's real life beliefs with them.

Obviously I know Valangel is toxic and horrible. I've been in situations where I was stuck with an abuser and I KNOW it's bad OFC.

Fiction is a safe place to explore those kinds of problematic dynamics and I feel like a lot of these people who are mad would be a lot happier if they allowed themselves the same freedom.

[captainsparklefingers]

I don't...uh...I don't art much, or at least not in a way that I ever share. I used to draw and stuff a lot more when I was younger and had dreams of getting into art school and, you know. Getting good and maybe going into animation. Getting rejected from art school and realizing that no, I'm not very good and I don't really have a lot of ideas or anything kinda put the kibosh on that, but I've been trying to do stuff more lately. More for me as I try to get through depression and anxiety induced creative constipation.

So I'm like...a little nervous sharing my crap art. It's not great, but even though it's not good, I actually sort of like this moth girl? Her outfit is uninspired and I'm pretty sure all the proportions are wrong and everything, but I dunno...you see a lot of good art on twitter and you get inspired, I guess. People are making some really cute Valangel fan kids and I guess this started as an attempt to get in on that but then I thought 'hmm. Nah. She's her own thing now.'. Whatever that thing is. It's a crappy black and white sketch but if she was gonna have colors I was thinking she's like...a rosy maple moth? Complete with the fuzzies on her arms.

So yeah. I guess I have a Hellaverse oc now and it's this badly drawn unnamed moth girl. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ it was good to draw again though. Got the block a little loosened.

[karenka-sutcliff]

Sólo quiero compartir esta belleza, que una persona muy especial para mí, hizo por mi Fanfiction. El Valangel fan kid nos tiene locas, tantos bebés tan bellísimos.

¡Muchísimas gracias 🫂💞

[aneldritchfootnote]

Housekeeping announcements!

Alright, time for some Hazbin and general housekeeping announcements so we’re all on the same page 🖤 I realised I hadn’t done one of these yet to convey where I stand and now is as good a time as any, so let’s go!

This page is a safe-space. You can ship and enjoy whatever in peace. Fandom spaces should, in their essence, be fun and collaborative. If there are things you do not enjoy; scroll on, block, unfollow, and let people just have their thing.

Ships I like + explanations where needed:

Speaking of ‘their thing’, these are mine concerning Hazbin (which is my main focus atm both in posting and in writing): Angel, Husk, Vox, Valentino, and Sir Pentious are my boisTM and will be featured in most of what I post here and write about.

Ship wise I love Huskerdust, Staticmoth, ValAngel* (see below for an explanation on this one, before people gut me), and one-sided Radiostatic (i.e. RadioSilence)

about ValAngel: Please know that I don't ship them in the sense that I think they’re good for each other or should be together. What they have is not healthy or something to be desired, it's abusive.

However, I love to dive into all of Angel's complexities. Valentino is a huge part of that. I am a strong believer that Angel used to be, and probably still is to some extent, in love with Val. The relationship between them is as multi-faceted and complex as they are.

Any other ships I feel ambivalent about, don't know of, or don’t enjoy at all, though I might still like or even share art if I just really like the way the artist did the piece.

Ship hate & justifications:

You don’t ever have to explain to me why you like a certain ship or character and, even more so, you won’t have to justify it with your own traumatic history.

And I get it, I was a traumatized kid once too, feeling like I had to gatekeep certain experiences and force people to justify to me why they were allowed to do or like certain things.

It gives you a sense of control and it’s hard to make peace with that inner turmoil but understand that, by forcing people to talk about their histories, you are just re-traumatizing them and for what? For a fictional character that hasn’t harmed any real-life people?

Forcing people to out themselves, in whatever form, is never okay, especially not if it’s because you feel you’re owed something. On top of that, trauma is not an entry ticket that people need to be allowed to find comfort or enjoyment in certain things.

You don’t know someone’s inner world and, in the end, we’re all still strangers on the internet. Just treat each other with compassion and if someone or something isn’t your cup of tea, don’t engage. Just live and let live.

A message to the minors:

Now, to the minors that have snuck in here, by lying about their age or not: I get it. We’ve all been young, engaging in spaces that might not be entirely made for us, out of curiosity or just because we liked something that was, technically, made for an older audience.

I won’t block you. I don't even know how many of you are here. I’m just asking you to be careful. This isn’t about me. It’s about you and your own safety.

Engaging with certain material can be damaging and fandoms like these, with mostly adult fans, can be difficult places to navigate. So, do what you want, bc there’s really no stopping you, but do so sensibly.

Try not to directly engage with other fans that are outside of your own age bracket and whom you don't know irl. If you do, do so publicly and while maintaining a sensible distance.

Any adult that tries to gain access to you privately is fucking weird and you are smart enough to know that that is iffy and very likely predatory in nature.

And for the love of Satan, if you cosplay, be so, so careful about what you do with those photos. You might be sensible but trust that a lot of people out there are not and by posting stuff like that you’re putting yourself in a very vulnerable position.

I’m sorry if I’m sounding like I’m trying to parent you here. I know you guys just want to exist in the fandom and have fun. I just urge you to be safe. There is a reason so many creators are asking minors to stay away and it’s not for their own comfort but your safety.

I think that’s everything for now. It turned into quite the epos but I’d rather be super clear about everything so everyone can see if this page is for them or not and act accordingly.

To those who will stick around, super glad to have you here! 🖤