#used british sign language for this

[louistonehill]

Explaining the path home

[solargeist]

joyeux anniversaire papa !! merci tallulah <3

edit: i dont like wilbur and block his fans on sight

[fayrobertsuk]

Poetry for ALL - an appeal

When I said "yes" to helping Rose Drew host what turned out to be the first ever Poetry for ALL in 2018, I had no solid idea what I was getting myself into, but through all the amazing events, brilliant performers, amazing interpreters, and fascinating venues, several observations have stayed firm:

These events are both loved and necessary – there's something immensely powerful, on a personal as well as societal level, about putting disabled people in spaces where they can perform without having to strive to overcome the usual tedious access issues, or see other disabled people telling their truths, amplified and spotlit and attended to (or both, of course). All our performers have physical, mental, or sensory disabilities, or are neurodivergent (and most are a combination of the above), and there's something undeniable about being among the majority for once.

It is increasingly difficult to fund these events, despite all of the above, the Arts Council yet again turning us down, this time on the grounds that we hadn't "demonstrated the demand" for such an event. I'm pretty angry about this, but mostly in the "okay, fine, we'll just have to show them, then" way.

Rose is a terrifying force for nature and I'm glad we're on the same team.

So we're doing the event again in York, despite both of us being different types of really ill, and we're livestreaming and recording it, and we have an amazing lineup of artists that you should really grab the opportunity to witness, especially at the prices we're offering (hell, the livestream is pay-what-you-can!), and we're crowdfunding again, because that worked last time, but we're really behind, and could do with some help.

The events are so accessible it's unreal - fully wheelchair accessible venue, poem text projected onto the screens, BSL interpreters for all spoken word, Covid-safer performance space, I'll do audio descriptions for anyone who needs them, low ticket prices and discounts for disabled attendees (plus free access for personal assistants), and if I can find my Braille label-maker, we'll have a Brailled merch table to boot!

So if you fancy helping out an event that showcases some of today's most exciting disabled UK poets (Rick Dove and FR Kesby headlining?! What?!), or you just want some nifty merch, or you'd like to help us demonstrate to the Arts Council that yes, there's a bloody demand for this kind of work, you can click any of the links above to buy tickets for the York show or the livestream, sponsor us until 23rd December this year, or buy our merchandise in the shop.

And please, PLEASE do share this as widely as you can!

[pomeraniandancer]

How the fuck does this even happen...

There are a number of languages you can search for works in on AO3, including Eald Eanglisc of all things, but the one language on there that really throws me for a loop is...American Sign Language.

Like, is there even a video option on AO3 for this to be possible?

I once picked a really big fanfic collection to search for ASL fics in and the only one that categorized as ASL was *written* in English. No videofile too be seen.

The most you can do in ASL in writing is write English words with ASL syntax. But that's still not ASL. ASL does not have a written alphabet or syllabary.

Genuinely bewildered about how this came about. Can people just post something and write in an "other" language and AO3 just adds that language to the list of languages they have fics written in?

I can't think of any other way that this might've happened, and as much as I adore AO3, this is pretty problematic.

[unclepolyglot]

Writing Signed Languages in Fanfics

so i recently got into learning ASL (which is amazing!! i love it so much!!) and am planning to reference it when writing a Legend of Zelda fanfic, like certain facial expressions or how quickly/forcefully a sign is made, etc.

the thing is, since i'm hearing, i'm wondering if those of you who are d/Deaf or HoH can give me some tips on how to write a signing character, like things you wish you'd see in fanfics, or things you wish writers would stop doing.

also, to show that the MC is communicating in another language other than English, i'm thinking of using these Japanese 「quotation brackets」. thoughts?

[lemonofthevalley]

people who say that "asl isn't a real language and colleges don't have to accept it as a credit" fuckign INFURIATE me. shut the fuck up and go take 4 years of asl and get back to me on whether or not you think its still "not a real language"

[tiddygame]

i have a confession:

i’ve been playing/watching my older siblings play cod games since i was way too young, bo2 defined my childhood, and i remember sobbing at the end of mwii (09)

i just found out roach isn’t american. he’s british.

idk why this entire time i thought otherwise but i am reeling.

[tuttle-did-it]

Why is there a BSL sign for a random, absurd word like this when there’s not an official way to say ‘non-binary’ or ‘they/them’ or even the word ‘pronoun’?

BSL, get with it. I can’t even identify myself in this language. There isn’t even a gender-neutral way to say ‘sibling’ or ‘parent.’

Frankly, I’m not enjoying learning BSL and I’m a little bitter that I have to because I’m deaf and need to talk to other humans. This language is absurd.

[shayberri789]

I have a question for Deaf folk around the world (or anyone who uses sign language really, of any variety):

When you discuss fandom in SL (eg: A book, or a movie, or a game), do you spell the name of the media in it's full? Or do you abbreviate it the way we do online (Eg: tloz for legend of zelda, istv for into the spiderverse, pjo for percy jackson and the olympians)? Or do you come up with sign names for them?

Do you spell it out full the first time (maybe using corrisponding full signs where appropriate eg the 'in' movement for into, or 'legend' in legend of zelda) then point back to that space to refer to it again? Come up with an arbitary nickname for it for every conversation/depending on the person?

How do you navigate fandom and character names in sign?

[weneedatdcharacterwho]

We need a total drama character who doesnt/cant speak for one reason for another and uses sign language to communicate but no one on the show understands them (including Chris and everyone bts) exept one other camper. So the mute camper and the camper that also knows sign language just openly start an alliance and will shit talk who they’re voting off and plot who to eliminate next openly at marshmallow ceremonies, but nobody else has any idea they’re doing so Bonus points if the camper who can speak lies about what they’re discussing to everyone else.

And at some point I imagine Chris finds someone to translate the mute campers confessionals and discussions and shows it to the rest of the campers to “eliminate unfair advantages” (stir shit up) and everyones pissed

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[jus-alilcomforblelad]

anyone have any recs for media where ppl use british sign language, visual media or otherwise?

i keep on trying to find sign language films or shows but it always ends up being asl and. i. i don't know asl.

[necromancy-savant]

That one poll reminded me of how one time in high school one Ms. Pease saw me quietly listening to my ipod in the hallway waiting for my next class and she just ripped it out of my hands. And I was staring in pure dumb shock for like 30 seconds and she was like "are you coming or not." She then proceeded to explain, once we walked the whole fucking school to her shitty little office she shared with 15 other people, that ipods aren't allowed in hallways. Which was news to me on account of everyone had them or cd players. She was known for being horrible for no reason but damn. I wish it was her who got arrested for cocaine

[sniffanimal]

every time i start watching a video in sign language and start really worrying that my sign language skills are not nearly as good as i though they were, i realize the video was in BSL or AusLan -.-

[whumpcloud]

Are Clary and Cai Russian? I just wondered cuz i thought Nikitin sounded Russian and also they are Very Blonde

yes they are! more specifically their mother is irish and their father is russian, though they actually got the blonde from their mother lol.

[valyrfia]

predictions for the f1 2025 car launch in london:

someone forgets to send out the dress code. george russell turns up in an immaculately pressed suit, lando norris turns up in black sweatpants.

the british drivers are raised onto the stage like they’re in the eras tour

the non-british drivers have to come in through the crowd entrance and buy their own tickets

christian horner still hasn’t decided who’s filling that second red bull seat. as a result max is accompanied on stage by what seems to be three untrained rookies in a trenchcoat

speaking of max, he doesn’t speak a word the entire night preferring instead to communicate short answers in sign language.

the hosts keep trying to awkwardly fill time à la eurovision song contest

there are at least two fistfights

and one dogfight (leo and roscoe)

pierre and esteban stand next to each other at first before they have to awkwardly be reminded that they’re not teammates anymore

someone makes a thinly veiled reference to the mclaren 2024 rear wing

kimi antonelli gets booed (british crowd) and about half the grid has to be physically restrained from jumping on the audience

toto wolff tries to seduce max yet again.

max audibly laughs at him. this is the only time we hear his voice all night.

oscar piastri gets visibly teary at the sight of drs since it’s the last time it’ll be used in f1

fred vasseur makes an insane prediction on how many races ferrari will win. everyone laughs at him.

he ends up being absolutely right

fernando turns up in another team’s colours

it’s later revealed that one team paid the sound engineers to play thunderous applause when their car was revealed

one livery will merit audible laughter

it will be alpine’s.

[soup-mother]

this is a niche one but instead of "they would not fuckin say that" it's "they would not fucking use American sign language".

ASL is not the only sign language. two british characters in your fanfiction would not be using ASL. England in fact has its own kind of sign language, BSL, that forms a sign family with many other sign languages around the world.

ASL isn't even the original member of its sign family, it comes from french sign language. do you know sign languages aren't related to spoken languages? that's an important one! it's not a direct 1:1 with people speaking English around the world. people in other countries don't learn ASL just in case they run into an usamerican or Canadian (who do often use it)

i know the entire world is the USA or whatever and sign languages do sometimes borrow from ASL for signs they don't have, but please be aware that there are other sign languages and families in the world that are not in fact ASL.