#tw: whitewashing

[doctorofmagic]

Regarding the recent events involving the MCU...

The only thing that I'll be addressing on my blog here is simply the fact that I've always been focused on 616!Doctor Strange, and due to recent events in comics, I'm slightly shifting it towards 616!Doctor Doom now.

That said, I'll not endorse whatever the hell will happen in the MCU and I appreciate if people keep that in mind when interacting with me. When I write about Doom, it's Victor von Doom, not Tony Stark. Ever.

That cast is disrespectful on so many levels, starting with whitewashing and romani erasure, but also everything that represents all the characters involved and how they relate to Stephen. It's bad for both Tony and Victor as separate characters as well, not to mention the relationship they were supposed to have given the events of Infamous Iron Man (and even before that).

Now more than ever, they'll be interconnected through the narrative, and I need that atrocity to be a separate thing from tags, and that includes the characters themselves and the ships as well.

I just need people to keep that in mind when interacting with me or my works. I know I don't have any control over that but one thing for certain is that fandom spaces will be hell for those who felt extremely betrayed by this decision. I'm doing my best to keep my socials safe and aware of the problematics this cast entails, but not everyone is willing to listen, as previously observed when it comes to Wanda.

All I'm saying is, Tony Stark and Victor von Doom are not interchangeable characters, the same way Clea and Christine aren't either. Yes, I'm absolutely aware of that one (1) alternate universe which was probably the inspiration for this. But it was supposed to be Victor's debut. This decision takes away his chance to be properly cast and honored as the complex character he is.

Little by little, I'm dropping everything related to the MCU, and depending on what happens next, I'll also avert my eyes from Stephen. It pains me to say that, but it is what it is. If they don't respect the fans and their voices, then they don't deserve my money or attention. They've been disrespectful towards Stephen for years, and I had enough at this point by keeping a z*onist actress and now whitewashing both Victor and Billy Kaplan. I cannot support this anymore.

Feel free to leave if you wish to remain in the MCU area of the fandom. I won't be returning to that place.

[kawaiibarty]

whoever invented heinz mayo deserves a kiss on the mouth

[all-naruto-polls]

How do you interpret Minato, Naruto, Sakura, Kushina and all other characters as white-passing?

Do you think they're intended to be white or are they asian coded, but just with unrealistic hair and eye-color?

[shellyswirlz]

Not several random ass people starting to come at me on the hellsite of Twitter because I want Palestine to be free, and because I support "blackwashing" lmao

Blackwashing isn't even a real thing first of all.. That word was most likely created by racist white supremacists. Like it's ok to blackwash is it not? You're bringing more diversity to certain characters.. Whitewashing however is a huge problem 😭

...Like wtf do you mean whitewashing and blackwashing are the same thing no tf they ain't...

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[twistmusings]

Spoilers under the cut for the JPN version

TW: For mention of the whitewashing in past cards

Whichever artist did this art I love you and I am kissing you on the forehead rn

Like whoever they hired to do this card art, please let them keep doing it and stop letting whoever did the Kingly Garb and Kalim Tsum card TOUCH THEM. (OR AT LEAST SOMEONE TEACH THEM I BEG)

I literally picked colors from the new card to edit the KG card and like 😭

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[tethrarisms]

I don’t understand 0ls3n stans’ obsession with wanting 616!Wanda to look like her MCU counterpart, especially in the new volume (aside from the undying need to whitewash her and/or push the white agenda ofc)

I’d kms if Marvel started pushing Benedict!Stephen down my throat. I already hate whenever artists draw the MCU!Eye of Agamotto in comics, let alone seeing Benedict’s face on my favorite character.

Leave 616!Wanda alone, yo. She’ll never be that white crazy woman that you praise so much.

[streets-in-paradise]

Funny people whine Dastan was whitewashed when Prince Caspian from Chronicles of Narnia was too. I mean he wasn't

Not to sound like an annoying grandma but, back in the day, EVERYONE in that movie subgenre was:

Hello? Imhotep from " The Mummy", anyone?

Let's be realists, people only complain when it is about one of the old movies they don't like themselves or particularly care about. Internet loved classics don't face the same harsh criticism and, when those do, people suddenly remember to put the film in context.

Same happens with all the criticism regarding Troy in comparison to 300. Nobody complains about 300 because it is a beloved classic of the decade, but everyone is quick to throw Troy under the bus.

Prince of Persia suffers from the same problem. People ignore the context because they don't care enough or dislike the movie itself, not just its potential problematic elements.

That being said, you can only understand Jake Gyllenhall's Dastan if you put him in the context of the decade. Back then, if you look close at all the other movies of the time, it made perfect sense. It was great casting for the standards of that period in film history.

It may be wrong to most today, but it made sense in the 2000's. All movies were like that, even the ones people nowadays still praise online.

[daintymayhem]

Am I the only one who feels SUPER weird abt lucien whitewashing that dainty (most recent in MYO channel). Even with the washed out skintone in the original design, I as a POC get the sense that it was designed to BE a POC and this new design is so not that it doesn’t even look like the same design

I'm very white so it's not my place to have an opinion but I find most things lucien does to be weird and uncomfortable

[queenoftsage]

It's cool that you're doing your gif posts...

But... How do you dare call for people to tell you how attractive someone is, when you've clearly made them look like a fucking apparition?

Is the 'Casket Ready' style coming back for gifs?

.......... just asking... for science.

[magnetfamily]

Thank you for sharing this information! We will no longer be sharing anything from that Twitter account. We take the white washing and racism the Maximoff Twins have been subjected to by canon and fandom seriously, and always attempt to address it.

[doctorofmagic]

I know this wasn't the point of the Wanda post but I feel like this should be said: Introducing things from the movies into the comics is not always a bad thing like how Blade wasn't half vampire until after the film trilogy and everything that happened with comic 616 Nick Fury. But I could be wrong and those are actually terrible examples.

I agree with you! I don't think adaptations and new concepts are bad, but it really depends on every circumstance.

Cloud!Galactus will forever haunt the second FF movie. Let alone that *points at Victor von Doom as a whole*

On the other hand, some concepts are super welcome, like what they did with the Eternals, making most of their personalities waaaay more interesting (I suppose my only exception is Sersi. Comics!Sersi is/was so full of sass and I missed that. But Ikaris? Makkari? Druig? *chef's kiss*)

Nick Fury, imo, is a very unique concept because he only exists thanks to the Ultimates artist who used Samuel L. Jackson for his design. The actor saw that and wanted to be part of the MCU, which turned him into a very popular character, leading Ult!Fury to the 616, while 616!Fury is currently *whatever happened to him in Slott's FF run idrc* (correct me if I'm wrong on this, I read that info a long time ago)

Oh, and I can't say much about Blade because I'm just starting to read his chronology. But I think it's cool that he's a daywalker, as far as I know.

In short, it's okay if the movies introduce something cool to the character.

But back to Wanda... (and I know you didn't mention her, this is just me ranting, so please feel free to ignore that part, I'm just seizing this opportunity)

Nothing about her MCU characterization added good things to her comic book version. She was whitewashed, worked for Hydra, had a terrible storyline about grief and mental health (tipically stereotyped and twice as problematic since she's a woman) and finally had the "woman goes crazy with power" trope. She was never able to control her powers (as seen in Civil War) and let her emotions warp reality to fit her fantasies while being manipulated by both people and her own emotions (again, women are often called overly emotional, and I'm not excusing Bendis here because he did the same in comics). She became a villain during HoM and the times she was possessed by Chthon, but she was never meant to be *THAT* scary and evil. There's altruism in her essence (this is why the narrative of killing a teenager is just so off to me).

Wanda is a brown romani woman who was often persecuted due to her ethnicity, religion and skin color, as well as her mutant genes. And yes, the many reboots that tried to erase her identity. Even in modern day, she still has to deal with ill-intended writers who ignored the implications of her character as a hero of color and the double effort she has to perform in order to be accepted as an Avenger, (former) mutant and overall hero. Not only that, the fans have to BEG to artists to make sure she isn't whitewashed, while 0ls3n stans will mock and diminish those who ask for representation.

This is why it's so problematic for Wanda to be like that. Her entire characterization is made to please a toxic fanbase and use her as a symbol to promote their racism (as seen on my previous post).

In short, they don't like Wanda. They just idolize 0ls3n because she's white and plays a derranged woman filled with power. And that's kinda enough for them.

Don't get me wrong, I do love my fair share of female villains (I'm literally in 300 different fandoms). But Wanda was not meant to be that, especially knowing that there are so few female heroes of color on screen (it gets even worse when we only count phase 1, 2 and 3).

In any case, my point is, fans cannot accept the influence of MCU!Wanda to be translated to comics because it's erasure of her identity and plain racism. The new team is working very hard to portray a woman of color as she was supposed to be ever since her roma heritage was established in comics, and it's infuriating that people will turn a blind eye to all that.

Like, this kind of shit keeps happening over and over.

Even when Wanda is a brown woman like she's supposed to be, they still find a way to erase her through 0ls3n's whiteness. This is not different from those derranged people who pick white actors and photoshop them over Black Panther's characters (I've seen one just yesterday).

Sure many minorities were poorly portrayed back then, often depicting problematic characterizations, but here's an excellent case of how comic books allow room for growth (I was talking about HP and JK but it also fits this post)

Agatha was just the last bit of bad influence from that accursed TV show. She was deaged, which is absurdly ageist. There are so many few elderly and middle-aged women in the Marvel universe. There's less now because women can't be old (ask me about the anons that stated Charlize was too old to play Clea and watch me burn in rage).

Anyways, I wanted to make this about Wanda again because it's not just a case of bad adaptation. It's a political statement -- and a bad one. And I don't want ANY OF THAT in a media that is so political and means so much to minorities. I feel like it's important for us to talk about this ALWAYS. So yeah. I don't know how to end this post. Representation matters. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

[firadessa]

2005- Official art sourced from disneyfairies.jp on the wayback machine!

[all-naruto-polls]

See, the poll about whitewashing Naruto characters is already highlighting how some of you are inherently racist and don't at all get how the Naruto characters are **all** ethnically coded ...

So new poll: if the Naruto characters exist in a made up world and your argument is 'tf you mean by whitewashing', then is it ok to depict Killer B or Ae as white?

[pucabearry]

[crawls out of the floor covered in blood sweat and tears]

stop....whitewashing.....daisuke...........mouthwashing...

[hongtonie]

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[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"Some people from the Bible were real. For example Saint Peter. There is no way Vivziepop didn't know that. He was middle eastern jewish man. How does he look in Hazbin hotel? Completely white. And I've seen like only two people talking about it. No one mentions it in any discussions of racism and whitewashing made by Vivziepop. Why? She whitewashed a real person. I'm a white christian and it's driving even me crazy."