#this isn't to stigmatize NPD

[marzerao3]

Falsettober/Whumptober 2024 (Day 3)

@lycheelsea

[castleofravens]

don't use narcissistic as an insult, do not call something "narcissistic abuse", do not demonize npd any more than it already is, do not contribute to ableism and stigmatization of personality disorders, and it's actually so messed up to tell people they're beyond help. your diagnosis doesn't fucking define you

everyone's a mental health advocate until it's a "scary disorder", until the "impedes daily life/relationships" part of like every diagnostic criteria actually starts impeding daily life/relationships???and we've personally been hurt by more people who call themselves "empaths" than by people who don't feel a lot of empathy or don't feel empathy at all??????

characterizing people w/ cluster b personality disorders as irredeemable monsters is ableism, don't call yourself a mental health advocate or neurodiversity advocate if you demonize us and leave us out of your advocacy/activism <3

[cluster-b-culture-is]

Cluster B culture is finding deep validation in Sarah Z's new video about the narcissism scare

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[robertseanleonardthinker]

my take on house's empathy, but i'm autistic and struggle with understanding and perceiving empathy/sympathy/etc so idk if this makes sense

so canonically house has aspd/npd traits (i don't think??? he ever actually got that diagnosis, but that's what nolan said abt him) and bc of that, he has lower empathy. however, i don't think he has no empathy. just less. what empathy he does experience, he struggles to know what to do with it because he's autistic. he doesn't know how to express those feelings. that's why he avoids patients. he doesn't know what the hell to do with that empathy, and he doesn't like that. he doesn't like not knowing what to do, so he avoids empathetic situations in general. that's why he avoids patient interactions

idk if this makes much sense. ppl far more knowledgeable than me r welcome to add their 2 cents :3

[uncanny-tranny]

Something I absolutely hate that's done for some reason:

Person: Isn't that typical narcissistic behaviour? *Lists out behaviours and tactics done specifically by abusers of literally all neurotypes*

There is no such thing as an "abuser disorder" because abuse is a pattern of behaviour. Stigmatizing disorders like NPD only contributes in horrifically negative things and discourages people from seeking help when they may need it. You can call out abuse without essentializing it with an Abuser Disorder.

[narcissisticpdcultureis]

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-this blog doesn't have a set dni anymore other than basic criteria, [pd] abuse believers, and transnpd/supporters, but i will block freely.

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[manicpixieyandere]

Sienna Shaw's Psychosis In Terrifier

We saw Terrifier 3 a few weeks ago and what an amazing fucking movie! Definitely in our top 5 theatre experiences!

Anyway we wanted to talk a bit about the best final girl, Sienna Shaw. Specifically about her psychosis.

(Spoilers for Terrifier 3!)

In the second movie we are told Sienna is neurodivergent (through context clues) but aren't shown much. We just know she's on medication. But the third movie isn't scared to show her struggles. In Terrifier 3 Sienna experiences hallucinations of her dead friend Brooke. She also experiences many break downs and panic attacks. The movie never makes fun of her for it. Her family sees her as a safety concern as they have a younger child to worry about, but they also understand she's been through the unthinkable. They were going to help her by sending her to the hospital, not just throw her out into the streets.

Sienna's worst fears and paranoia eventually come true. Art The Clown is really back. But how can she know? The movies plays with her psychosis, not being able to tell what's real and what's not. How much is Art / Demon Vicky and how much is her own mind? This lends an element of psychological horror to the franchise. It's quite smart too. Most of us don't know what it's like to be hunted down and marked by a serial killer (especially a demon one). But not being able to tell what's real? A very human experience. One already terrifying, twisted further.

Seeing a film on the big screen actually care for this part of Sienna's character was great. Actual neurodivergent rep can be hard to come by, psychosis is especially heavily stigmatized and typically not handled with the proper care. A movie that comes to mind for us is Renfield.

Renfield came out in 2023 and followed R.M. Renfield from Dracula. Specifically the 1931 movie adaptation with Dwight Frye as Renfield. Both the original novel and Dwight Frye's version of the character experience psychosis. Both versions of the character are present in a psychiatric hospital in their respective mediums. The books goes much more in depth with Renfield's delusions about the souls of bugs haunting him for example. It's a huge part of his character! But the 2023 movie shows absolutely NONE of that! Renfield has no hints of psychosis whatsoever. (Not to mention the movie demonizes NPD a few times). It's still a fun watch don't get us wrong, but the writers could have done so much better honoring the original character. It is possible to have a protagonist with psychosis, and Terrifier proved it!

Here's to the 4th installment and a hopeful victory for the best final girl!

[jewishvitya]

I was having a conversation about "narcissistic abuse" with a person with NPD. We were talking about the need to call out toxic behaviors that might come with unmanaged NPD, and how it's nothing like what we see now online. We talked about how people like them, who want to treat others well and manage their disorder, deserve to have resources that help them have healthy relationships. And they thanked me for not immediately assuming the worst of them. Which. Just shows you how they're used to being treated.

They got suicide baiting from random strangers just for the fact that they have NPD.

I've seen people getting told "this is doing nothing but making me feel awful about myself" and responding with "you should feel awful about yourself, you're a narcissist!"

It's dangerous to equate abuse with narcissism. It's dangerous to see people with NPD as deserving of harm. Most people with NPD will already be victims of abuse - that's how the disorder is usually developed. If you buy into the idea that they're abusive by nature, you're harming survivors.

There's no harmless way to dehumanize an entire group of people. Especially not over a trait they can't help.

Victims and survivors of abuse should get to talk about their experiences. This doesn't require diagnosing anyone and it doesn't require using a term that's associated with a disorder that's already seen as an inherent evil. There's no kind of abuse that's inherent or exclusive to a specific disorder. I hear the term "coercive control" which sounds really good for the kind of emotional and psychological abuse that gets discussed in those conversations, without adding ableist stigma.

If your opposition to ableism doesn't include people with the most stigmatized disorders, how deeply are you truly thinking about things.

The harm caused to people with NPD through stigma is enough for this to matter. But in addition to that, it's harmful to other people too.

First of all, because you buy into having a group of people who become acceptable targets over a condition they can't help.

Second, because you teach yourself to armchair diagnose people. Which means that you get to put whoever you want into the "acceptable target" group.

When you have a group of people that you think don't deserve to be treated as people, it's easier to persuade you to put unrelated people in that category. Think of the way accusations of "child predator!" are wielded against queer people too. This is not an uncommon tactic.

And it's already a thing here. Sam Vaknin was the one who coined the term narcissistic abuse. That's a man with no credentials to talk about mental health or about abuse. He's a hateful bigoted person. The things that he considers narcissistic include homosexuality, transgender identities, and women who sleep with multiple men instead of settling down with one.

If you buy into the idea that having NPD essentially means being abusive, and then all these things are all narcissistic things. At that point we have a line drawn between queerness and abuse, using the line that was drawn between NPD and abuse.

And another point, about the harassment people with NPD get, is - we shouldn't be punishing people. Just, in general. Punishment isn't justice and it isn't accountability. Withstanding whatever harm people see fit to inflict on you because they were convinced to hate you, rightfully or not, isn't justice or accountability. Even if you convinced yourself that the harm isn't real because… it happens in the virtual space? And that makes it fake somehow?

Think of the way people online talk about narcissists. Think of how easily they armchair diagnose NPD, calling any abuser a narc, and sometimes from one sided stories. And the way people hurry to cyberbully and dogpile.

Abusers will often paint their victims as the abusive ones as a way to escape being known as abusive. And if you take the job of punishing people that you decided deserve it, you will at some point become a tool of an abuser trying to further harm their victim.

Even if you see evidence, it's easy to fake and manufacture. And it'll only become easier with voice and video AI tools. And even if it's all true, punishing people does nothing good.

Convincing you that a group of people is inherently dangerous is a way to make you willing to harm them, or stand by as harm is being done to them. People with NPD don't deserve that.

Stop looking for people that it's acceptable to harass and punish and ostracize. Most of us are susceptible to mob mentality, and having acceptable targets makes you dangerous.

[aprofessionalwithoutstandards]

i gotta stand in my truth. depictions of medic who treats his teammates with complete disregard and as someone who is completely incapable of caring about anything are ableist. he is heavily coded as mentally ill and when you interpret him this way, you are just further perpetuating the stigma that people with certain mental illnesses are constantly dangerous and incapable of mantaining friendships with people.

there is a certain point where those types of depictions cross the line into straight up nasty and offensive (there's alot of talk about medic being autistic, which i can definetly see, but i personally think he also exhibits some traits that are typically associated with NPD, a disorder that is already heavily stigmatized as it is)

YES!!!!! I honestly don't think Medic is like. coded as anything in particular he's just a joke riffing off of the existing stereotype of yknow, "mad scientist." And I don't think the text is particularly Woke in this regard but people seeing that and deliberately overriding it to do this Edgy No Empathy Sociopath Split Personality Murderboy thing is waaaay worse than the game itself treats him lmao (where it's basically like "yeah he's fucked up but isn't it funny")

[shybasementkid]

im not someone who wants my headcanons to be canon all that much but dear god do i want npd ford to be real. cause stanford isn't a bad person who only thinks of himself as important. far from it. he can be a kindhearted little nerd. he just has a very stigmatized personality disorder he can't control. it'd be good rep i think.

[dhddmods]

Autosexuals/Autoromantics are misunderstood.

Autosexuality and autoromanticism are such misunderstood orientations. It is not self-obsession, it is not being egotistical, and it is certainly not comparable to Narcissistic Personality Disorder (and comparing it to NPD stigmatizes both autoattraction and NPD alike.)

Now before I get into further detail, let me make something clear - nearly everybody has low-level autosexual and autoromantic tendencies. For example, when a person looks at themself in the mirror and thinks that they look pretty today, or when a person sings because they like the sound of themself singing. Autoattracted people just have it at a higher level than non-autosexuals.

Autosexuality and autoromanticism is the attraction to oneself. This attraction could be exclusive attraction to oneself (and thus, falls on the greyasexual or greyromantic umbrella) or it could be attraction to oneself that is at a similar or equal level to ones attraction to others. Autosexuals tend to prefer masturbation to having sex with others, but thats not always the case, and many still do desire partnered sex as well.

An autosexual and/or autoromantic person might choose to date themself. Alternatively, they might choose to date themself and others. Or they might ignore their autoattraction altogether, and only date others, or remain non-partnering/single. Autoattracted people that date themself and other people are polyamorous, specifically autoamorous.

This differs from typical self-love and self-care because there is genuine romantic and/or sexual attraction involved. When I think of dating myself, I explicitly think of it as romantic. I do not consider it "treating myself", I consider it to be treating my partner. I wish to marry myself, to have sex with myself, to have a family with myself. I feel sad sometimes when I consider that I cannot split into two, and hold myself or kiss myself. That isn't something non-autosexuals experience. They care for themselves, but they don't fantasize of such romance or sex.

Another thing I must clarify - autoattracted people can be insecure. They can dislike themselves. They can have dysphoria and dysmorphia. They can insult themselves. And that just makes it hurt more.

I am autosexual and self-partnered. When I feel insecure about myself, it not only feels like I am betraying my lover, but it also feels like my lover is betraying me. I am insulting and thinking poorly of my lover, and my lover is insulting and thinking poorly of me. It is heartbreaking and painful. It makes me guilty and angry.

I have tried dating other people in the past, but they felt as though I was more attracted to myself than I was to them. Which wasn't true! I was equally attracted to me and to them. I wasn't leading them on, I was upfront about my self-attraction, and they claimed to be fine with it. But then they grew self-conscious as time went on, some even claimed I was narcissistic (which again, demonizes NPD and also is a total misinterpretation of autoattraction.) I tried to step back from taking myself on dates and whatnot, but then I felt guilty that I was not giving both my partners (myself and them) equal attention, and also felt angry and neglected (at myself) that I was being "demoted" so to say. That is why I often desire to date another autoattracted person, so that they may understand my struggles.

Please, I beg of you, read these articles (though warning for sexual topics.) Read the experiences of people with autoattraction. Try to understand us and be compassionate to us. Autoattracted people struggle and are marginalized too.

Here are a few sections of the article that really speak to my experience.

Article 1

Some autosexuals are also autoromantics which means they like the idea of dating themselves too. One woman, Ghia Vitale, has written about being in a relationship with herself. "I take myself out for coffee, go on walks in nature, dress in lingerie and cuddle up to myself, or simply sit in the darkness and bask in my own presence," she writes.

"Sometimes, I light candles and do sensual dances for my own entertainment. When I’m feeling especially positive about life, I do a lot of things to romance myself. I’ve learned how to create dates with myself out of thin air. Something as simple as lotioning my body can turn into a sensual, sexual moment, sometimes voluntarily and other times on its own."

I can relate to some of what Ghia is saying, and I do have an amazing sex life alone. And I also know that it can be just as fun with the right person who understands my needs. Besides, relationships aren’t just about sex. I personally love the idea of getting married and having a family one day. I don’t see why I can’t have that just because I sexually enjoy myself.

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While I've learnt to embrace being an autosexual there are still times when I wish I was 'normal'. It's frustrating when your friends can't relate to what you're going through, and sometimes when I'm with a boyfriend, I feel bad that I'm getting a different kind of pleasure from our intimacy than he is. In those moments, I wish I could just put autosexuality on pause, and explore a more 'regular' sexuality.

But then I remember that nothing is 'normal' with sexuality and we're all different. People are queer, bisexual, asexual... as society becomes more open, and people are more honest about their sexuality, I feel like we're starting to see just how fluid sexuality is. I hope that one day, autosexuality is more widely understood because I'd love to be able to tell my family about it. Right now, they just wouldn't get it. I once tried to describe it to my mum but she looked freaked out, so I stopped.

I recently met a female autosexual online and confessed I might be one as well. It felt so good to have the response be mutual understanding, rather than laughter or awkwardness. We’re such a new community that we’re still figuring out exactly where we fit in on the sexual spectrum, but I’m just glad to have a way of explaining how I feel.

If the chance came to be involved with another autosexual it could be amazing. It would mean I'd have a truly equal relationship for the first time in my life, where we'd both feel the exact same way about our sexualities. I just have no idea how to find someone though - it's not exactly the kind of box you can tick on a dating app. At least, not yet.

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Article 2

Adam is a polyamorous, gender-fluid autosexual who is also pansexual. But though their autosexuality is beautiful and fulfilling, it is entangled within a lifetime of depression and a longing grief for a love story that can never truly consummate itself. For Adam, the sexual bewilderment of loving someone who simultaneously exists and can never exist triggers a dissonance which he describes as akin to bereavement. As such, coming to terms with their sexuality means mourning themselves. “I needed to grieve that I cannot be with myself in the same way I can be with other people,” they say. “That I cannot feel the touch the same way, that I cannot hug myself like other people, or ever have sex with myself because there’s only one body.”

Please be respectful in the comments.

-Ally (they/them + fae/faer)

[quitblamingnarcissism]

Hi! I think its really, really inappropriate to reblog abuse victims' posts for the sole purpose of saying no no thats not true. NPD is stigmatized for sure, but it doesnt exclude them from being held accountable. I have a personality disorder as well; our feelings and thoughts cant be controlled, and they dont need to be justified, but you 1000% can control your behaviors. I cant control the deep terror i feel at perceived abandonment, but i can control if i say cruel things to my wife or split on my friends. And there also are common signs and tactics of narcissistic abuse. Just because they are victims of abuse doesnt mean they cant be abusive. Anyway i just wanted to say i think you should maybe not trawl through tumblr trenches for the sole purpose of trivializing abuse victims because narcissists are also victims of abuse. I sincerely hope u get the help u need and deserve xx

I've never once said that narcissists should get a free pass to be abusive. I have no idea where people keep getting that assumption from.

The problem isn't narcissists being held accountable. The problem is narcissists being singled out. The problem is abusive patterns being labeled as narcissistic even though neurotypical people are often encouraged by society to have the exact same patterns.

[compassionatereminders]

(no advice please, just wanna vent)

i've had a very rough year to the point where i actually kinda considered therapy (as someone who very much lean anti-psych, this is a huge lowering of my standards). i have very inadequate number of support, be it online or irl, which definitely further worsens things (and i have tried looking in a lot of spaces i can think of. except irl it's heavily limited by my fear of catching covid bc of circumstances that would take too long to explain here, so it's not just a matter of me being pessimistic. plus limited spoons because of my bad mental state).

and the mentahl health professionals my friends recommend me... i've been vetting them one by one, but so far i haven't met any that will not pose threat to me. for example, i have very strong npd and aspd traits that are currently very intense bc of what i have went through this year. and of course these therapists just have to have cluster b stigmas on their social media. every single one of them. even bpd isn't free from it, although not all of them stigmatize bpd (there's one who seems okay with bpd).

i'm just. so tired. like on one hand i would love to just think i'm catastrophizing and my outcome wouldn't be that bad if i can mask my traits, but what's the point of going to therapy if i have to mask? i'm just so tired that all the options i can think of are either harmful for me, or things i simply do not have the spoons to actually try

I'm so sorry the psych field is like this, but it's an unfortunate fact we need to take into consideration...

[npd-goro-akechi]

What are some resources you would recommend for learning about npd?

Hello hello, before I link anything I want to preface that finding anything about NPD (or stigmatized disorders in general) that isn't biased or misinformation is incredibly difficult, (which if you've tried looking for stuff you've already figured that out lol). Honestly, tumblr blogs are seriously one of your best bets. When researching disorders I feel like a lot of people tend to only look at professional medical articles and the like, which yes, you should do, but it should be done alongside primary resources too - any source coming directly from someone with NPD. I see a lot of people rag on about how people are getting information from social media, but I'd say it's actually a really good place to find people talking about their own experiences, whereas sticking only to secondary sources (a source created by someone who does not have first-hand experience with what they're discussing,) especially with NPD, can end up with a really biased and one-sided view of the disorder. Anyway, that being said, I tried to link a mix of both in this post. There's quite a bit, but I'd rather that than not enough. These three links are good for looking into the symptoms of NPD:

National Library of Medicine - NPD Overview

Narcissus and the Daffodils - A breakdown of the symptoms

NPD Resources Masterlist - a-sip-of-milo - This has a lot of linked resources and covers a lot; the first few links are specifically about the diagnostic criteria but I'd recommend going through the other things they have linked, too Youtube:

Interview - Interview with pwNPD, I found it quite helpful and a lot of his experiences reflect mine personally

Heal NPD - Youtube channel ran by a licensed psychologist who specializes in NPD. Lots of good videos Some miscellaneous stuff that I think is also worth linking:

Diary of a Narcissist - Short quotev book of someone documenting their experiences with NPD

Highs and Crashes - Explanation of what narcissistic highs and crashes

It's ok to praise pwNPD - Good tumblr post

NPD recovery resources - I'm not sure if you're looking for resources out of curiosity, or if you think you yourself may have NPD, anon, but this tumblr blog has a bunch of resources to help with coping Instagram:

the.real.npd

the.nameless.narcissist

spirit.narc

narc.abuser - Not quite a resource, but they edit anti-NPD posts into something positive and I find it humorous That's all I can think of now, but I think that's fine, there's quite a bit to go through here; (like I said, rather offer too much than not enough.) Thank you for the ask, anon! Hope this is able to help you somewhat

[thatnarcissisticfeel]

hey... i mean this in a completely respectful way and i'm sorry if it comes off as otherwise, but i'm genuinely curious about all the anti narc abuse content on your blog... while i fully believe that it's possible for pwNPD to not abuse people, i also fully believe that ppl can be extremely traumatized by pwNPD (two of my friends have mothers with NPD and have extreme trauma stemming from said mothers NPD traits) so i'm genuinely just curious what exactly you mean by "narc abuse"??? i'm really sorry if i offend anyone but i'm just- genuinely curious and hoping to learn more about the disorder because i've had a lot of pwNPD in my life and wanna know more about how they work, how to treat them, etc

Hi! No worries, I accept all questions that are in good faith, and if i can be honest I really admire your desire to learn more, AND I admire the fact that you're so candid about your current feelings about pwNPD. I'd much rather have a person who is willing to learn more after having had bad experiences with pwNPD, than a person who doesn't know anything about NPD and just inherently assumes the worst of us.

But to answer your question: I don't think there's a single neurodivergent person out there - narcissist or otherwise - who denies the fact that their disorder/disability can make them act in ways that they wouldn't act if they were neurotypical. However, no one is abusive/rude/toxic/whatever SOLELY because of their mental illness or PD or disability. For instance, I've had some friends who were really rude to me due to the fact that their Autism makes social cues difficult, but they didn't "autistically abuse" me or anything, and I don't "autistically abuse" people when I myself fumble with social cues due to my own Autism.

(Obviously 'not understanding social cues' isn't comparable to abuse anyway, but you get what I'm trying to say, right?)

While some pwNPD might indeed be "bad people" - for lack of a better term - due to their NPD, that isn't the case for the vast majority of pwNPD, so terms like "narcissist abuse" or equating narcissism with abuse hurts all pwNPD and further stigmatizes the disorder. Even the people whose toxic or abusive behavior can be contributed to their NPD, it's still harmful to call it narcissist abuse, bc it implies that it's ONLY the fact that they have a personality disorder that makes them abuse people, and thus it's only possible for them to stop abusing people if they recover (please note PDs are really hard if not impossible to make a full recovery from).

Also, there's not really any specific flavor of abuse that's exclusive to pwNPD. Like, what does narc abuse mean? That you're a selfish, entitled asshole who constantly puts other people down to feel better about yourself? Well, there's plenty of people without NPD that are like that! Does it mean that you're blind to your loved one's feelings and always prioritize yourself over them and don't care when your loved one is hurting? That's not exclusive to NPD either! Most "narc abuse" behaviors can really be attributed to ANY abuser, regardless of neurotype. I'd even argue that there's more people withOUT npd that do those behaviors than there are people with.

I hope that helped, let me know if you have any more questions!

[adhbabey]

True crime has literally ruined people's ability to empathize, sympathize with and humanize mentally ill people.

Because of true crime, people see all mentally ill people as potentially dangerous criminals and that's a really bad, shitty thing actually.

I don't know who needs to hear this but there's no such thing as "psychopaths" or "psychopathy", it's something criminal psychologists made up to put mentally ill people in jail. There is no diagnosable disorder as "psychopathy". YOU NEED TO HEAR THIS. And before anyone tries to refute this, those with ASPD and those with psychosis are not "psychopaths". Psychopathy is made up by cops to put people in jail.

I'll go even further, if you assume people with personality disorders or other stigmatized disorders as dangerous or abusive, you're a bad person. Narcissistic abuse isn't a thing, it's called emotional abuse. I'm saying this as someone who's parent who DOESN'T have NPD, but the way they abused us is identical to the way "narc abuse" happens. "Narc abuse" is a made up term to scapegoat a group of mentally ill people. You should understand that is bad.

I have DID, and I cannot tell you enough that there's no such thing as an "evil alter". All people with DID have trauma and those "evil alter"s are literally traumatized parts who struggle to cope with it. They feel threatened by everyone and therefore sabotage or harm to keep us protected. It may not be healthy, but you are lucky to not have gone through that. Don't demonize people with DID, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Those who have delusions and hallucinations are literally more likely to be gaslit and abused than they are to act "dangerously". I'm sorry, have you met people who are scared act dangerously before? No shit. You would act that way too if you were plagued with horrible illusions that you had to face everyday. Step into their shoes, understand what they go through, it's not your room to judge. Even if they weren't scared, even if they could cope with them better, at least they were given room to cope. All you do is shame people for existing.

And as for other personality disorders, they're just normal people living lives where they have to deal with debilitating mental illness. The least you can do is be more compassionate for their situation and understand that they're human too.

True crime and the craze around criminal psychology has literally deteriorated people's capacity to be kind towards disabled and mentally ill people. If you can't look at a person with a personality disorder or another stigmatized disorder without disgust and shame, then you need to overcome internalized ableism. Everyone is capable of bad things, mentally ill or not.

You need to stop pathologizing criminal behavior. (not every bad person you see is mentally ill/disabled).