#the librarians spoilers

[to-be-a-dreamer]

Just finished The Librarians and, loved it, truly, such a good show and I will be obsessing over all the characters for the foreseeable future and watching the sequel series when it comes out but I have a Bone To Pick with that season 4 finale because WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY TIME TRAVELED THE ENTIRE SEASON OUT OF EXISTANCE???

The LiTs don't meet Ezekiel's mother and go on the most sibling-coded mission of their entire lives???

The team doesn't see Flynn actively choose his family over the library, even when his literal hero is telling him to do otherwise???

They never go to the team building camp???

Cassandra never goes to that "safest town in America" place and leads an entire community to face their fear???

Stone and Ezekiel don't get possessed by the spirits of two brothers whose love for each other ended a decades-long feud in the middle of a war specifically because the brothers knew they loved each other enough to make the same choice???

JENKINS DOESN'T JOIN A DND PARTY????????

Like yeah, Eve and Flynn remember and I guess they could have told them all but you're telling me none of the other characters remember the entire SEASON??? This is like when they memory wiped Ezekiel's time loop character development away but on crack I am distraught.

Also I'm actually fascinated by Christian Kane being the only confirmed reprisal how the hell are they planning on explaining everyone else being gone and Stone only being a reoccurring character I'm so afraid

[queenofglassbeliever]

The ending of the Librarians was ....interesting. Like the fourth and final season just reset itself?? It ends at a beginning. What does that mean for the events of the season?

They haven't happened yet. Do they happen "again" but different somehow? Example, the quest to find the stones of Alexandria wouldn't happen cause the stones are already in the Library. And anything with Nicole will be different cause she's a good guy now.

Another example, the noir episode. Maybe I'm wrong or not remembering correctly, but I'm pretty sure that because Flynn and Eve tethered to the Library that means they may not be going on adventures as often? So instead of them getting trapped in that noir movie, maybe Jake and Cassandra do? Which would be a fun Jassandra AU tbh.

Or do Jeff and Jenkins still switch places? Does the gang go to that camp? Maybe Nicole goes with them instead of Eve. Which could be fun and would be interesting to see how she works with the LITs now that she's a good guy.

And since it all began with the tethering ceremony there's no which one of the LITs is going to tether with Baird. So no Trial of the One?

Some stuff would be the same, but that same stuff would also be different. And... yeah there's just a lot to unpack there.

[thewickedbohemian]

The irony of back in the Gatewatch Arc of MtG lore me having made a Librarians AU with Jace as Flynn considering how if I'm to read the lore of the latest set right it feels like he and Vraska kind of out-of-nowhered into going full Darrington Dare and Nicole Noone. I know things wouldn't necessarily be solved the same way as different issue but if whatever they're planning gets stopped by Chandra and Nissa essentially playing Fleve-equivalent roles and both Jace and Vraska face-turn by the end of it at their convincing, that could turn out pretty cool

[ace7librarian]

That scene was gay as fuck

[ahrisaamariyo]

also i keep thinking about this post and i felt the need to grab it. you piece of beloved citizens

[dungeondykes]

night watch keeps throwing absolutely mean right hooks then kicking me while i’m down like. we’ve got this intensely topical political drama unfolding in the foreground, one where the guy in charge is hiring his buddies into office and the poor are getting poorer while their friends are arrested and killed in the streets, and they’re all so desperate they’d gladly put the lesser of two evils into office, not knowing what that future holds. and while vimes knows the outcome /we/ don’t, we just know it’s in history books and it absolutely ends with the death of john keel. beyond that there’s all the time shit with lu-tze and closed loops and historical imperative and then vimes finally getting his wish of going back to simpler times but simpler does not mean easier, don’t you remember how horrible it all was? have you become so used to comfort that you forgot what it was like in the gutter? and now vimes is running around in a divergent timeline he created (again 🙄) because he’s incapable of staying in his lane. all this is happening and then terry’s like. hey so i know you were wondering what vetinari was up to 30 years ago. i’ve also canonized him as a dog person

[cirrus-grey]

It’s cool guys! Colin’s fine, Alice and Gwen just found Jurgen Leitner.

[witchinatree]

cannot believe here in this 2024 we got untraumatized and joyous gerard keay, with no evidence of relation to mary keay and instead his grandmother is gertrude robinson

i'm pretending that they aren't also now doomed by the narrative and instead that they will continue their happy lives together because i love this so much

[writing-for-life]

Sandman Sneak Peek Analysis

There is Brief Lives in this, but you’ll miss it if you blink…

Is everyone recovering? 🤣

So we obviously got our fill of thirst traps, but I wanted to analyse the sneak peek (click to watch) a bit more closely.

Many people were commenting they only see Season of Mists and Song of Orpheus in the clip, but I don’t think that’s true. We obviously don’t know what exactly they did to the arcs and what might have changed, but I still predict that the first batch will be Season of Mists and Brief Lives (with other stuff thrown in, I wrote about it here). [I think we also saw a clip from Thermidor in the sneak peek, and that Lady Johanna Constantine was in it, but that just as an aside.]

So let’s start with stills I think are definitely from

Brief Lives

I honestly think it’s this (they’re lighting his face from below for a campfire effect, there are candles etc):

Edit 22/09:

We sleuthed a bit more across several platforms, and some clever people pointed out this:

These two frames appear in different places of the sneak peak, so we can’t know for certain if they are from the same scene. It is possible though. And if they are: He is wearing his ruby on the one to the left. It’s hard to tell if it’s the same thing to the right, but it could be? If so, that would mean this could be from Song of Orpheus instead of Brief Lives.

He does wear a clasp in Brief Lives all the way through, so that’s also possible, but again: If these shots are from the same scene, which it honestly looks like, I’m now leaning towards Song of Orpheus, and this particular scene (there’s a fire there, too):

Plus, if you zoom in and squint really hard, he seems to be wearing something on his shoulder here, too:

What else?

We see Despair’s Realm. But we don’t in Season of Mists. So this is either Brief Lives, or they give us a bit of Three Septembers and a January (which I’d love tbh, but I’m not going to hold my breath).

Next:

I think this could be Ruby’s/Wanda’s death/the fire. It’s really hard to see, but that could be Indya Moore sleeping? Let me know what you think…

Then this one:

I bet my bottom dollar this is Suffragette City and Ishtar’s dance. Now, the bottom panel is a tricky one because in the sneak peek, it’s actually right after the shot of (presumed) Wanda, so my initial response was it’s the fire. But the curtains look exactly the same as in the one with Ishtar’s dance, plus I think the glass is also in both shots. Which makes me think they either just put those scenes randomly together in the clip despite them being separate, OR that they changed the arc a bit and pulled Wanda/Ruby and Ishtar’s dance together. Either way, we’re definitely in Brief Lives I think.

Over to…

Season of Mists

I cackled like a lunatic when I saw this. IYKYK, but I somehow didn’t expect them to give us that one. Hurray (or not, depending on whether you like spiders I guess 🤣)

Angels looking modern…

Shame really, I wouldn’t have minded a more comics accurate look, but hey. Also: Is that your man Edward, @marlowe-zara ? Hard to tell from this angle, but I think it could be?

That’s also Andre Flynn in the background (also an Angel then).

Shivering Jemmy with the balloon! 🎈 If she doesn’t dump it on Dream, I’m gonna riot!

These ones with Lucienne are hard to place, and they could be anything, but they somehow give me stronger Season of Mists than Brief Lives vibes, although both is possible.

I have a hunch it’s this one:

Then there’s naturally all the obvious stuff (Cluracan, Susano-o-No-Mikoto, the family dinner etc etc), but I don’t think I have to get into those because they jump out at us straightaway.

More in the realm of

Casting

I think that might be Ella Rumpf as Eurydice, @tickldpnk8 What do you think?

This is definitely Wil Coban, but who he? Fae (the ears suggest so much)?

So what’s everyone thinking?

[insoucianceart]

Disclaimer: my hatred of librarians is purely theatrical, but if I did have to kill one for some reason, it would be very easy.

I’d brandish my paranormal book at them and they’d be compelled to approach. “That’s very cool,” they’d say, confident in their superior wit and brainpower from all the books they carry around at all times. They’d shower me with very interesting facts about the Fears and hover just out of range of the book’s influence, waiting for me to exhaust myself. “But as it affects only the reader who opens it, it’s very ineffective, you see, and isn’t well-suited for use as a weap—” and then I’d hit them with the metal pipe in my other hand, which they would not have noticed because librarians can only see books and magazines.

[zuppizup]

I was all "oooh, Rayllum are gonna have lotsa cute library dates now! Dorky saps going be reading romance novels and poetry together and annoying the cranky librarian!"

And then I remembered...

[quantumfeat72]

But unlike you, who gave up on your wish, and almost destroyed the world in the process...

I gave up on my wish, and destroyed myself.

[not-she-which-burns-in-it]

Today’s the day! After about a year of listening in the car for my commutes to the theater, I have made it to MAG 200. Mark me down as excited and scared to finish The Magnus Archives.

I have avoided spoilers for the very end, but it feels like a forgone conclusion ever since the twist with the Web and the Multiverse.

Honestly, I had absorbed enough knowledge about Magnus from memes both on Tumblr and TikTok that I was convinced the series ended with them gouging their eyes out and running away together, on some kind of backpacking retreat. Turns out, that fate is for the cute lesbians. And the running away together happened at the end of season four. So I’ve been very worried for all of season five, if the Internet hadn’t mentioned what happens at the end of Magnus that it was going to be unpleasant and make me cry.

Also, it’s a horror podcast and I know Johnny takes great pleasure in killing off our favorite characters.

So wish me luck,

And so help me god Jonny Sims if Martin ends up having to kill Evil God Jon in some horrible murder suicide I will find a way to send spiders to your home. I know a happy ending is too much to ask, but like, come on.

[floating-far-from-earth]

hi, so remember that one odile looping au where she was instead in sasasap? yeah, I thought more about it. There's some writing accompanying the art under the cut~! (though uh, warning of. self-harm implications at the end?? our dear odile is Not Doing Well!)

It's been a good few loops since you'd been in the House with the rest of the group. After an... event you're not going to think about, you'd spent a good amount of loops going through the Dormont library, reading through any and all books you could get your hands on.

(No familytales, which you feel bitter about. You're stuck in this hollowed out state, not allowed to progress further, but not allowed to end, and you can't even have that. You came here to try and connect with a part of your own heritage that was taken from you, tried to learn more, to hope that maybe you'd find some sense of belonging that you'd been missing. And now… Now, you're barely even living. Barely even-)

…Returning to your original train of thought, it's been a while since you made your way through the House. You hadn't seen much point in it, to be quite honest. It's not like you can beat the King.

(After all, you've tried so many times already, and nothing you did worked. Not trying to hone your skills through fighting the sadnesses scattered around the House, not through a thorough inspection of all the rooms, not through trying to outsmart the King, nothing you did worked. There's that one attack, just that one attack that the King uses, and maybe if you'd just be able to avoid it you'd be able to defeat him-)

(But you've tried. You've tried, and he always uses it, always kills you before you can even tell the Child to run. You should have never let yourself agree to bring them with you, but you can't bring yourself to try and spare them of this now. They're a part of your group, and you promised that they could come, and you don't want to disappoint them, even if you can't even beat the King, even if the first time around, the Chosen was-)

You take a deep breath. You are not facing the King this loop, you will not see it, so it doesn't matter.

(You don't know whether he kills the Chosen so brutally when you're not around. After all, in the last loop you faced him, he hadn't wasted waste any time in dispatching you at all.)

(…You're unwilling to find out how things play out when you're not there, but for her sake, you hope it's quick.)

(And it's not like it matters, when you're the only one to remember.)

(…The only one. The only one. The only one the only one the only one gems who even are you at this point something jagged and pulverized to small bits until everything feels like a blur and you can barely hold your thoughts together you don't want to be here please someone anyone get you out of this hell you don't want to see them die again you-)

You hold back a sigh. Annoying. All these thoughts and feelings are so annoying. There's something else you should be focusing on. After all, there's a reason you neglected to wrestle the lead from the Trapfinder, letting yourself trail behind the Chosen. A reason you hadn't pushed, hadn't reached for the control of deciding where to go (even if it caused the Trapfinder to feel useless, even if it made them feel unneeded, you couldn't bring yourself to care, to regret, not when you were losing your mind having to see them examine the exact same rooms, the exact same things every time like clockwork, not when you knew exactly where to go to progress and had specific things you wanted to check-) There's a reason.

After all, you know that, even without your input, the Trapfinder will find the way through the House. You can trust them to do that, at least.

This, in turn, gives you time to think. And you need that. Because for this loop? You're planning to go to the House library for the first time.

And you have to figure out a way to get your group to let you do that. Because, despite everything, you still care what they think of you on some level. You don't want them to worry about you. To know that you couldn't figure this out. To-

You do.

So you wonder. Because, you'd heard them talking about you on the way up to the House. You may not care to bother with trying to decipher what exactly they're planning to do, how much they've figured out, but you're sure they've noticed how off you're acting. And you don't think they'd allow you to stay by yourself in the library, not without having a Talk, and that's not something you can afford to have.

The Trapfinder runs into another sadness, and you don't even notice until a stray scissors attack cuts into your side. The Chosen quickly heals you, sending you a worried glance as she does so, but you don't pay it any attention because…

You think you just found your way through.

(You wonder how badly you'll have to injure yourself so they let you stay behind.)

(It's not like it'll last anyways.)

[ace7librarian]

Please I love her so much

[azertyrobaz]

The only white-on-white friendship I'm invested in is Ben and Jerry's.