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Why Shi Qingxuan IS TGCF's Plum Blossom
Heaven’s Plum Blossom❀➢
Throughout Heaven’s Official Blessing Shi Qingxuan’s character represents both uplifting joy and resilience in the face of unimaginable hardship, the same values as the plum tree’s blossoms. During his first appearance as a character, Qingxuan works to defend Xie Lian –our protagonist– and also defend the truth. He then is seen further assisting Xie Lian through their adventures in Ghost City, bringing a characteristic flair and positivity to the third realm. He then faces unimaginable hardship, imprisonment in the Black Water Demon lair, and loss of godhood. But even as a beggar, as a mere mortal. Qingxuan showcases that flair and positivity still kept his positive outlook, and still fought for the greater good.
We met Qingxuan disguised as a lady during the Banyue Pass arc of the series, and from that point forward he was characterized by the greater good and his positivity. When all of heaven is called to meet before Jun Wu in the Palace of Divine Might, Qingxuan defends Xie Lian and the true events of Banyue Pass unfazed by the threats from Pei Ming, unwavering in his defense. From these early moments we are informed that Qingxuan’s guiding ideals are pure, and that he is a agent for the greater good.
Immediately following this arc we see Qingxuan alongside Xie Lian venture into Ghost City to investigate a distress signal scene in that region. Another dangerous task he takes up even without being a combat focused martial god. Throughout this whole arc we see Qingxuan assist Xie Lian and face their challenges with bravery and optimism. He doesn’t shy away from the unknown dangers hidden in ghost city, all because someone else's life was on the line, someone they weren’t even sure was still alive. And all the while he keeps his characteristic flair, from costume changes to gender changes, Qingxuan’s look remains a defining portion of his identity.
We next time Qingxuan is seen of substantively is in the beginning of the Black Water arc, where he in ernest meets strife. From betrayal by his best friend, to discovery of his brother’s deceit, Qingxuan is repeatedly bombarded with hard choices, hard to swallow information, and we finally see his joyous stature falter. In the start of this arc, we see Qingxuan try to keep a hold on positivity while he jokes with Ming Yi and makes Xie Lian and Hua Cheng play a silly game. But after he is imprisoned twice, we see him react to his dangerous circumstance more logically, with fear. But even while in the disgusting prison of the Black Water Demon Lair, Qingxuan’s appearance still signals the purity he represents, his white robes being a point of contrast against the muddy prisoners around him. Even when he is knocked down, he still represents that perseverance.
The last appearance we see of Qingxuan is in the mortal capitol, where beaten, bruised and a beggar, he still offers to put his life on the line for others. He is the first, and the leader of the rest of his beggar colony to join the fight against the spirits of Mt. Tonglu. Qingxuan shows his dedication to the greater good, and his pure spirit with his unwavering desire to help others, a desire unswayed by being a mortal ejected from heaven. During this meeting we also see his symbolic appearance take importance again, with his bright teal eyes serving as the shibboleth to alert Xie Lian to his identity. Once again, even in times of extreme strife and when he has been knocked down as far as anyone could possibly be, he still wants to help, he still shines brightly if even through just his eyes.
Now this is all true, but how does that relate to the plum blossom? In the cultural traditions of both Chinese and Japanese culture, the Plum Blossom represents the ideals of perseverance and hope, just like Qingxuan. As the first flowers to blossoms in late winter and early spring, their bright colors poking out from the dead environment signal the hope of a forthcoming spring. Plum blossoms also represent purity of the mind and the ability to elegantly overcome challenges as they do when blooming in winter. Qingxuan’s ideals of the greater good, and his flair ever present when fighting against even the harshest of evils perfectly exemplifies this.
Through both his actions and appearance Qingxuan’s identity is intrinsically that of the Plum Blossom. Perseverance through hardship, grace, bravery, elegance, hope and purity are words equally interchangeable between the two. When looking at Qingxuan, you shouldn’t just see him as a supporting character in the book series, but see him as the purest form of good and the most representative god in heaven of the greater good. His elegant problem solving, dedication to helping mortals, and commitment to the greater good even when in the face of indomitable evil shows why Qingxuan, falsely ascended, is most deserving of godhood. if you found this remotely interesting, give it a kudo on Ao3!
#tgcf#heavens official blessing#shi qingxuan#character essay#character study#tgcf character essay#sqx
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Post-canon Heavenly Emperor Pei Ming relies heavily on Ling Wen’s assistance due to his inexperience, which leads to Ling Wen’s workload being worse than it’s ever been. At some point Pei Ming looks at her and thinks: “I’ve seen ‘noble Jie’ in all sorts of sorry states, but this is new low. I’m not some kind of beast, I will try to go easier on her”. So he tries to do more things on his own, but once again due to his inexperience, he ends up with even more mistakes and messed up situations and Ling Wen’s tasks multiply and multiply.
Eventually Pei Ming stands in front of a pile of scrolls which completely obscures Ling Wen’s desk behind it. Pei Ming says: “I’m genuinely sorry. Can I?..” and reaches for a random scroll to handle whatever task is written on it.
A pale clawed hand writhes out from between the scrolls, grabs Pei Ming’s hand and a voice seeping equally with fury and horror hisses: “Do not. Touch. Anything. Here”.
Ling Wen is the only person who visits Jun Wu in his prison. She cries on his shoulder for hours and keeps begging him to break out, usurp the power and become the Heavenly Emperor again. Out of sheer desperation, she has prepared fifty different scenarios to help him do it. Unfortunately, Jun Wu feels very pacified after being defeated and plans to spend the next 2000 years contemplating life choices and playing cards maybe. He does appreciate Ling Wen’s company a lot though, so he gladly offers her his attention and condolences.
#tian guan ci fu#tgcf#pei ming#ling wen#jun wu#tgcfragments#tgcf spoilers#for jun wu#born to write brilliant essays and do masterful crimes#forced to do office work#ling wen is the most character ever
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If you can’t tell I am entirely obsessed with this guy
#qi rong and guzi#qi rong#qi rong fanart#qi rong design#tgcf#tgcf qi rong#heaven officials blessing#heaven officials blessing season two#tgcf season two#tian guan ci fu#LITERALLT LOOK AT HIM PLS#Idk what to call his dynamic with Guzi cause he’s not fatherly at all but at the same time he’s guzis father#he really is my favorite character#go ahead and ask me why if you dare I will write you AN ENTIRE ESSAY about it#if I was more insane than I unfortunately am I would deadass write tgcf from his perspective just for fun#AND I WOULD IF I DIDNT HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS IN THE WAY#college is dumb and I’ve got books to sell before I can even attempt fanfiction again#BUT I TOTALLY WOULD#maybe I could#like as a string of oneshots ya know#like the flower crown prince ceremony but qi rong’s perspective like “the AUDACITY of that HOMELESS ASS LOOKING CHILD to FALL FROM A BRIDGE#‘THE FUCK IS HIS PROBLEM?!’#like really dude I have so many things to go running with#anyways#if you dare you could ask me to talk about him and I would just go off#love qi rong#qi rong appreciation#crimson monsoon art tag#crimson monsoon
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Interesting that the first case we see Xie Lian solve is basically about how love and devotion can go wrong.
Xuan Ji loves and worships Pei Ming to the point of obsession but it’s a selfish love. She doesn’t really care about how Pei Ming feels or what he wants—only about forcing her own feelings onto him. Even to the point of hurting herself in order to try and force Pei Ming to stay with her.
It’s a great contrast to how Hua Cheng handles his own love and devotion to Xie Lian. Hua Cheng’s love is one without expectations or demands. He’s never needed Xie Lian to return his feelings or even know of them because to him respecting Xie Lian’s autonomy and choices has always been more important.
Where Xuan Ji’s love is selfish Hua Cheng’s is selfless.
#tgcf#hua cheng#xuan ji#xie lian#literary foils#character contrasts#i love hua cheng so much#like how mxtx is like: alright here are all the pitfalls of this trope#now let me dismantle all of them one by one in this essay of love and devotion done right
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I fear this may be too controversial but i really don’t get the hate on junlian when so many people ship xuexiao? Like I know they’re not exactly the same but it’s fascinating to me how one fucked up ship is so popular while the other is so incredibly hated?? Like they both have incredibly complex relationships in canon and both have one character who felt wronged by the other and then went on to force them to do things that went against their morals while also being really close to them and outwardly caring for them. Do you get what I mean? Xue Yang and Jun Wu both did these things yet Xue Yang is loved for the complex and fascinating character that he is but Jun Wu is reduced to a stupid jerk and people hate him. Maybe it’s the difference between the fandoms but I don’t think that’s the only reason. Idk I’m not telling people who they can and cannot like but I do think the difference is weird
#can you see I really like both characters? bc I really do#and I see so much of xuexiao but with junlian there are people ‚warning‘ others about those who ship them#like I think both these relationships are incredibly interesting and way more complex than if you were to say theyre in love#and that’s what I like about them#the obsession and the dedication to making the others life hell#the regret/ relief when the scheme finally ends#the desperation!!!#i don’t think they are good for each other and that’s the point#they are so fucked up I want to study them under a microscope#run tests and everything#write essays about them#but yeah I just realized how similar they are#tgcf#mdzs#tian guan ci fu#mo dao zu shi#xuexiao#xue yang#junlian#jun wu#tgcf spoilers#fafa says
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No no, don't spare me the 700 words of character rambling. I want to read it. Please?
IF YOU INSIST ANON =D
(admittedly it's closer to 600 words now after editing lol)
(this is partly cyrano au stuff, partly general character ramblings)
OK SO JING WEN.
In canon we don’t really know too much about his motives towards Ling Wen other than he wants to wear her down and destroy her reputation, and this stems from her showing him up in an essay contest. From the revision, we can also add plagiarism to his sins – he knows Ling Wen is more talented than him and despises her for it, especially because she’s a woman. (Although I think her lack of scholarly background also heavily plays into it. She isn't a woman from a family of scholarly officials. She's a shoeseller who writes letters on the side to make ends meet.)
For the Cyrano (but not really Cyrano) AU, I’ve added a layer of lust and entitlement towards his feelings for Ling Wen. He was the one who discovered her! He rescued her from a life in prison and made her a junior heavenly official! People remember her name and her story because of him! He’s her hero!
And he thinks that it’s about time she acts like it! Ling Wen wants to keep her head down and avoid him as much as possible. Do whatever job he wants from her and hope it keeps him in a good enough mood to leave her alone. Except Jing Wen wants to reduce her to the girl who was saved by him and devotes herself to him in return. It drives him crazy that she does not, and would even dare to get close to other men (PM & SWD) when she treats him (him!) with barely concealed contempt. He discovered her! She was no one before him and he is the only one who can have her! (and her talents!)
This is meant to contrast this AU’s Shi Wudu who also discovers her hidden talent when he exposes Jing Wen's plagiarism (mostly by accident) and immediately falls for her brain and wants to see what she can do with it when she isn’t tied down by Jing Wen and his ego. He finds her interesting, a match for himself (one of two people he’ll acknowledge as such), and rather than save her, he wants to give her the tools she needs to save herself because it’s much more fun for him that way. (This is also the real reason Bai Jing is not in this AU, because he treats Ling Wen with genuine kindness and doesn’t have any kind of pedestal or expectations in return and I think given everything she has been through at that point, that genuineness would be more attractive to Ling Wen over someone who wants to make a girlboss out of her. If there’s no BJ to compare against, I think LW would be a little more receptive to SWD’s feelings.) (Although both are interesting to think about.) (Also on a sidenote, even in AUs where he isn’t explicitly in love with her like this one, my SWD always ends up a bit of a dogged nice guy towards LW, ready to do anything she asks. This is partly because she helped him with the fate swap, and partly because he REALLY values her friendship. There’s a bit of a second-love aspect to their relationship from Ling Wen’s side because she knows SWD feelings towards her but it’s not the same love that BJ made her feel.)
And also because I just like talking about him, Jing Wen’s possessiveness and refusal to be shown up by a woman also kinda contrasts Pei Ming a bit, since he’s also a traditionalist and believes the guy should save the girl (and would be pushing SWD in that direction in his pseudo-cyrano role), but he’s also capable of acknowledging that if that doesn’t win her love, it doesn’t win her love (not that that’s ever been an issue for him personally) – and if a woman shows you up, the solution is to Do Better and show off properly to her later (this is him with the Rain Master. Anytime she gets the better of him, he sulks for a bit and then sets out to show her how cool he actually is. He wants her acknowledgment!)
#random tgcf thoughts#tgcf#the cyrano (but not really cyrano) au#one of these days i'll write the ling wen backstory frankencanon of my dreans haha#which this au is a bit of an offshoot off#idk i just find the whole xuli backstory incredibly fascinating#and especially just interesting a character jing wen is#considering he only appears in one scene in the original tgcf#and doesn't physically appear at all in the revision (his presence is there in the flashback but he never gets any actual scenes)#that one scene just reveals so much about him; lw; pm; and xuli#(and that's on top of what rong guang also reveals about xuli)#xuli ends up having a very rich history where jing wen is from a distant past where the kingdom was likely prospering#and he holds on to those glory days of it#then ling wen was born in an era where corruption was much more rampant and her essay's victory reflects that#things were likely even worse in pei ming's time (although xuli was waging and winning a lot of wars with him in command)#and this culminated in an actual military coup that pei ming stopped with his own hands#(whatever rong guang's actual motives for the coup was (whether he believed pm would be a better king or wanted to seize power himself)#i think there was already plenty of dissatisfaction among both the military and the populace for the current state of affairs#that he could justify his cause)#(but also there's a comment about how pm thought the current king wasn't that bad so it could also be that pm's xuli was improving a bit#compared to ling wen's xuli)#but then of course after pm's era we get bai jing's era and everyone agrees that the kingdom is a wretched hive of scum and villainy#and on the verge of collapse...#(sorry to ramble but there is a reason the three tumors and all characters related to them are my favorites xD)
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I once saw an autistic person stating that Quan Yizhen being autistic isn't the reason Yin Yu has issues with him, and honestly I think that that's half-true, but I have a point to make.
Mostly when I talk about how Quan Yizhen is treated badly and looked down on, I'm talking about the other characters and the writing in the novel AND the fandom.
Because the narrative frames him to be a clueless dumbass who's also an asshole who doesn't care about people's feelings.
And the fandom (and some characters) think of him as an annoying and childish when he's really just a disabled adult.
"But you can't surely say that Quan Yizhen is autistic? It's not even canon!"
Welp, let's say that my observation about him being autistic is wrong and simply say he's an allistic (non-autistic) person.
Even so, the traits that he gets treated like shit for and made fun of are *autisitic traits*.
Which also means that if you view him as an idiot or an asshole for those traits, you also view all autisitic people that way which still makes you abliest.
And about Yin Yu specifically, I think a part of it stil comes from a tiny bit is abliesm for him, because he gets mad at Quan Yizhen for not understand him despite how incredibly indirect and secretive he is about his emotions when it comes to Quan Yizhen and how much Quan Yizhen actually tried to get him to tell him what he was doing wrong.
Yin Yu mostly hates him because of Jian Yu's influence and because he's better than him at the whole martial god thing, but he also just dislikes Quan Yizhen traits, he just happens to want to tolerate them due him being the world's biggest people pleaser and the fact that he actually used to like Quan Yizhen just fine before.
#autistic Quan Yizhen#and with that I finish yet another essay#tgcf#tian guan ci fu#hob#heaven official's blessing#天官赐福#danmei#quan yizhen#qi ying#qyz#autsitic quan yizhen#autistic qi ying#autsitic qyz#abliesm#autsitic character
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for art requesting... whoever from tgcf you think would fit the members of mcr (i guess in a modern au way but like. we're free balling SO)
BESTIE BAE U ARE SO REAL FOR THIS. it may come as no surprise to u that i have thought abt this subject extensively so here r my answers (please note these are Not the same with my tgcf modern hardcore au im working on rn but are very similar) (im insane) (details in tags)
#OK SOBBASICALLY my thought process going in was like strictly eprsonality and vibes based. to me xie lian is the lead singer no matter what#and hes my babygirl like gerard has mad gender like gerard (see: crossdressing like 27 times in the story) and hes the main character so he#gets to be gerard idc. then mikey is like way quieter and less outgoing than sqx BUT my thought process was theyre both well liked + every#body's little sibling and talented. like i think the way everyone was/is obsessed with mikey is kind of how i feel about sqx even if their#popularity in the story is far more complex than that idc to me its like everybodys kid brother = shi qingxuan#NEXT ok so ray toro obviously i had to give him a good character and IN MY HEART OF HEARTS i knew. he would get yushi huang#BECAUSE#SHE IS SO RAY CODED TO ME. i dont even wanna explain it its just like if ykyk#next up hua cheng my thought process here was literally frank is hot sexy and annoying as fuck u know wjo else is hot secy and annoying as#fuck. thats right. hua cheng#Boom gottem also grank works here ig if ur a granker#ESSAY OVER literally do not ask rocke about their interests u will be there for 7 hours#rocke art tag#tgcf#OK THINGS THAT MATTER ONLY TO ME BUT ALSO MIEKY COULD HAVE BEEN QI YING ESP BC OF HIS CRAZY AUTISM I DIDNT THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT UM#too late now
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If you will write that essay I will read it
I wonder if Xie lian ever just *forgets* to eat or do normal human functions. I wonder this because I often forget to eat because quarantine left me with some bad habits and often I’m just too tired to want to get up. So I honestly wonder if sometimes Xie Lian forgets to eat sometimes and is only reminded when either his stomach makes a loud and noticeable noise or there’s pain from not eating.
#long answer is a fucking essay#tgcf#heaven official's blessing#xie lian#tian guan ci fu#weirdocat83 ramblings#please#I love character analysis and angst :3
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This is a call for help from me to the tgcf fandom!
I'm planning a series of essays/fandom metas that would argue against some of the common and persistent misconceptions in the fandom, with proper citations. (specifically about Xie Lian, Hua Cheng, their relationship and anything else I can find enough fuel for)
However, due to me avoiding twitter and tiktok like the plague as well as having a low memory capacity for the stuff that finds me on here, I have a lack of bad takes to refute (aside from fandom microwave background radiation).
I need screenshots of the most rancid takes you can find.
This includes, but is not limited to:
Blatant Misinterpretation
Heteronormative Bullshit (Top/Bottom discourse, refusal to see blatant homoeroticism where it pops up, etc, etc)
Uwuification (Reduction of characters to 'uwu precious baby can do no wrong')
Bad Faith Readings
Stalking Accusations (Hualian-specific)
Neurotypicalisms (Refusal to acknowledge the circumstances and unique mental processes of characters)
Trope Reductionism (Reduction of characters to vaguely compatible tropes)
Falling For It (Taking the characters' every word as an irrefutable truth)
Mother Knows Best (Seeing MXTX's word of god/interviews/other extratextual content as canon)
This call is open to all canons except for the manhua and audio drama. (Suika translation, Seven Seas translation and donghua)
The revised edition will be considered on a case-by case basis.
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Pinned post! (ok to reblog)
I talk about Mastodon every so often, so I tend to want a quick "and here's how to join" guide I can link to. Here it is! (updated Sep 2024)
First: the fandom side of Mastodon is great. There aren't a lot of us, but it's cozy and well-moderated. We have nice conversations and fun events. I'm currently running a daily mini prompt game, we've had ship bingo games go around, I want to get back to running character tournaments, and danmei read- and watch-alongs pop up every so often (there's a TGCF readalong ongoing). It's a bit like a cross between Tumblr and a Discord server.
Also: YOU CAN POST PORN. Full-on cocks in holes and everything! Or you can easily avoid it, because marking it as NSFW is required, and the filtering options are excellent.
Anyway. How to join:
The server I recommend is blorbo.social. It's an 18+ multifandom server, and it allows personal posts as well. The mods are fandom people who care about fandom creators (attributing works, preventing harassment, etc.) There is a 3,000 character limit per post (about 750 words, a bit longer than this post).
If that sounds good, here is a walk-through to minimize confusion. Of course, please do what you want, but I find that a lot of people want to be told what to do here!
Don't look at the app store yet.
Sign up on the website (blorbo.social/auth/sign_up) in your browser. No need to write an essay, just mention fandom
Wait for your approval email
NOW check the app store. If/when you want an app, search for "Ice Cubes" (on iOS) or "Moshidon" (on Android) (not "Mastodon")
When the app asks, your "server" or "instance" is "blorbo.social"
(You can also just use the website - I'm adding app instructions because everyone seems to want them!)
Add something to your profile to show that you're a real person, just like on Tumblr: you can add a profile picture and bio, and you can make your first post! You can introduce yourself and list tags for your favorite fandoms (it can be as simple as "hiiiii I like #TGCF!"). Pinning that post is also good.
Follow a bunch of people and hashtags, since there's no algorithm. You can search for "xieliansbignaturals", if you'd like to follow me!
From there, you'll figure it out! I'm very happy to answer questions, but I don't want to load this post with so much information that it's overwhelming.
I hope you'll consider joining us!
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TGCF Shi Qingxuan Character Essay
A short character essay connecting Qingxuan's character to the symbolism of the Plum Blossom!
#heavens official blessing#tgcf#tian guan ci fi#tgcf fanfic#shi qingxuan#character essay#ao3 link#ao3#wind master
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Tgcf fandom likes to talk about morals and such. We have folks who are the obvious clear good guys like xie lian and feng xin. And then we have hua cheng who is completely neutral. And then we get the morally grey like he Xuan and shi Wudu. And then we have mu Qing…. Which he’s not obliviously good like the other two xianle. But he’s never done an act that’s morally despicable… and he’s not like hua cheng either. What do you think of this topic? And what do you conclude on Mu Qing morality? lol sorry if this sounds like an exam question ☠️☠️☠️
hello there! :) i really appreciate the question!!
to start, i just wanna say that the tgcf fandom’s obsession with morals has always kinda driven me crazy, to be honest! in my opinion, flattening a whole bunch of very complicated characters into clear cut “good guys” and “bad guys” tends to feed into circular arguments about whose fave is the most morally pure and “right”—which isn’t very productive. having said that, though, mu qing’s specific morality really interests me, so let’s chat about it!
to me, mu qing is one of the most realistic characters in the novel, morality wise. he’s pragmatic and driven by self-preservation—which makes sense considering that he was born into extreme poverty with a sickly mother and an executed criminal for a father. he has to succeed and provide for himself and his mother, or they will starve. this is the reality he was born into! underlying all of his choices is the need to survive, at any cost.
but more than just being driven by self-preservation, he’s self-interested. mu qing is ambitious! he wants more for himself!! he isn’t satisfied just being someone’s servant, he wants to stand on his own as xie lian’s equal!!! (this is the crux of why they couldn’t actually be friends until the end of the novel… but that’s an essay for another day lmao)
anyway! mu qing protects himself first because he doesn’t trust anyone else to do it for him. he knows his worth and he leaves when he feels he isn’t being valued.
however, being self-interested does not mean that mu qing is selfish—though he’s often accused of it, both in-universe and out. i think many of the “selfish” accusations (from fans at least) come from the contrast between him and the rest of the xianle quartet, who are all nuts for self-sacrifice. feng xin is still struggling to break himself out of the “devoted bodyguard” mindset, 800 years after xie lian kicked him to the curb. hua cheng has LITERALLY died for his beloved, multiple times. and xie lian, of course, is Mr. Self-Sacrifice himself!
so naturally, a character like mu qing—who places a clear and high value on his own life—stands out a lot compared to them!
but it’s this very self-interest that makes his actions at the end of the novel SO powerful and so telling for who he is as a character. mu qing, THE self-preservation and self-interest guy, risks his life multiple times to save the people he cares about. he takes on a cursed shackle rather than betraying xie lian! he stays and tries to help everyone even though he fully believes that they all hate him and want him dead! he almost DIES just to buy xie lian a few more minutes of escape time! these are all acts of genuine love and selflessness.
of course, mu qing’s big self-sacrifice moments at the end aren’t the only time he does good!! he helps a lot throughout the novel—or at least attempts to help. many of his altruistic actions are either misconstrued by people’s assumptions about him/his own poor communication, or they blow up in his face. but he is very often trying to help!!
i think that’s the crux of mu qing for me: he’s trying. in spite of his cynicism, he KEEPS trying to be a good person! even though basically no one believes in him.
he’s not perfect. he’s mean and unpleasant (i say this with deep affection) and sometimes his pragmatism hurts the people he loves most. case in point: the 33 gods incident on the auspicious land. (though i could also write ANOTHER essay on how this was a complicated and unwinnable situation for both him and xl to be in, and ultimately i think his choice was sad but completely understandable… but i digress. essay for another time.)
anyway! if you’ve gotten this far! my overall verdict is: mu qing is complicated. he’s an imperfect person trying to be good, and i think that’s why i find him so interesting. he makes good choices and bad choices, as we all do!
i think a great many fans would do well to be a little more charitable in their assessment of him. when push comes to shove, many of us are more mu qing than we are xie lian. and there’s nothing wrong with that! ;)
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Introductory post: Please read! :)
hi everyone! welcome to my very own MDZS-specific iteration of the unparalleled @svsss-fanon-exposed and @tgcf-fanon-exposed. this blog is designed to find the differences between canon and fanon in the Mo Dao Zu Shi/Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation fandom.
this blog is ENGLISH NOVEL CANON ONLY. although i may occasionally cite the drama or the donghua as the potential source for any misconceptions, the canons of these adaptations differ too much from the novel canon for my purposes (plus i haven't finished either one. whoops).
how this whole thing works:
send me an ask! is this thing you thought was canon actually fanon? is that fanon idea supported in the books? where? why? how?
i'll answer the ask with a rating, using SVFE's helpful rating system (explained below), and then go into detail. generally a post will include textual evidence supporting my rating, and possibly an analysis of what this means/where an idea came from.
i'll do my best not to introduce my own personal opinions or biases into the posts. if you have any textual evidence that you think disproves or otherwise contradicts one of my posts, i'm always happy to be corrected! HOWEVER. please do not argue with me or anyone else unnecessarily; this blog is not supposed to be a site for or source of discourse. i will block anyone who is repeatedly coming at me with bad faith. i'm doing this project for fun, and i want to keep it that way for everyone :)
posts will probably be sporadic so i don't burn myself out and lose interest. however, i want to try and answer as many questions as i can! submissions will open and close based on demand so i can stay on top of things.
some important things to keep in mind:
i'm not here to dunk on anyone's headcanons, and i am fully supportive of everyone's creative choices in the fandom!! (in fact i have many headcanons myself.) DO NOT harass anyone for their interpretations of the series. my purpose here is just to clarify whether certain ideas are textually supported, NOT to give an opinion on them.
i'm doing this blog for fun, so i'll be treating it as a casual project. i will only be using the official english translation of the novels, with the supplementary exception of the exiled rebels fanlation. i don't speak any chinese, so i will not be using the untranslated raws or any non-english fandom sources in my posts. although i'll be doing research as needed, i also will not be evaluating any headcanons purely based on chinese cultural norms, due to my unfamiliarity with them. if you are more familiar with any of these sources and have more information to add to a post, please let me know!
another thing to keep in mind: the official translation of the novels is not considered fully accurate to the original chinese. i am not immune to making mistakes, either. please take my posts with a grain of salt.
BECAUSE this is a casual project from someone whose only credentials are being completely obsessed with mo dao zu shi and knowing how to write an essay, anyone is welcome to make a blog that does this but. better. let me know if you start one and i'll point people your way lol.
finally: i will NOT be entertaining any character bashing in or on my blog. again, this is not a personal opinion-based blog, i'm looking at textual support, so honestly i don't think this disclaimer is necessary. but. just in case.
💥💥the rating system:💥💥
CANON: what it says on the tin! this fact is supported by the text. if you're trying to be as canon-compliant as possible, this rating is for you.
RUMOR: this fact is an in-text rumor. although this idea is mentioned in the novel, it's still not explicitly confirmed as canon. the characters themselves don't know if it's true or not!
FANON – SUPPORTED: not directly stated in canon, but it's a very likely interpretation, taking into account factors like cultural norms and occam's razor! this rating might be retroactively added to a post previously rated FANON – NEUTRAL, based on crowdsourced information about the raws or chinese culture.
FANON – NEUTRAL: it's not canon, but it's not NOT canon. the text neither confirms nor denies this interpretation, so it's up to you whether you want to consider it true to canon or not. the world is your oyster.
FANON – UNSUPPORTED: not directly stated in canon, but it's a very unlikely interpretation, taking into account factors like cultural norms and occam's razor. this rating might be retroactively added to a post previously rated FANON – NEUTRAL, based on crowdsourced information about the raws or chinese culture.
FANON – CONFLICTING: this idea directly contradicts something stated in the text. if you want to stay as canon-compliant as possible, this rating is not for you.
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#mdzs meta#here goes nothing i suppose#i want you all to picture the 💥 emoji as if 'the rating system' was a youtube title screen with a bunch of explosions and air horns btw
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Do you have any particular headcanon or meta about mdzs's world? Mdzs's world is a little different from other xianxia's worlds imo
Hi Nonny!
The worldbuilding I like to do is intrinsically character related, so it changes a lot between different fics that I write, so I wouldn't say that I have any hard headcanons about the world of MDZS.
And if I may, because this is a thing that bothers me intensely, I'd like to clarify that neither modao zushi the book nor cql the show are....xianxias. They're very much genre bucking, but they are spiritually much closer to being wuxia than xianxia (which is more like tgcf from what I can understand of the plot of tgcf).
I would however, like to observe that the world of MDZS is much much more polite and not prone to killing actual literal people than the typical wuxia. Yes, despite the war. And also despite the many many crimes nearly everyone commits in this universe, MDZS cultivators are, by training, ghost busters rather than wandering hitmen or cops. This is also what causes so many problems when they try to figure out what to do about crime and punishment. They're not suited for crime and punishment OR for judging the morality of any particular action committed by humans.
I have a longer essay about this somewhere comparing MDZS and the structure of its society to other common wuxia (Jin Yong's Legend of the Condor Heroes and Gu Long's Sentimental Swordsman Ruthless Sword) but that's a much more serious meta essay for another day!
Thanks for the ask!
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Welcome to my blog!
I'm Skye (she/her), and I primarily write metas/analyses about MDZS, though other things do get reblogged occasionally. I love analysing characters and waxing about the structure of MDZS, though there may be periods of inactivity. Regardless, I hope you enjoy the time spent on this blog, and that it may lead you down the rabbit hole of other people's metas as well – I've linked some of my favourite analyses down below, as well as a few of my own that I'm proud of.
Info
I'm about to start a reread of MDZS, and will post about thoughts I have/details I notice under the tag #skye rereads mdzs. For the posts that get longer and more analytical, I'll tag them under relevant #meta tags as well. I will be using online screenshots, but I do own all the books, if that's a concern!
Important tags (be warned tumblr does mix them up a bit when you search...):
#my meta for my analyses
#important for important real-world things, like donation links etc (because though this is a fandom blog, it's also the biggest platform I have, and the more people these posts can reach, the better – people can decide what to do with them after they've been seen)
#[mdzs/svsss/tgcf] meta for any analyses, mine or someone else's
#translation for analyses focusing on comparing translations
#[mdzs/svsss/tgcf] fanart for fanart i've reblogged
#fav tag for others' analyses or fanworks I particularly enjoy
#not mxtx is self explanatory
#asks is self-explanatory, too!
Metas
Metas I'm proud of:
My 'WWX is not a self-sacrificial idiot' series: 1, 2 (my favourite one), 3. Also compiled into one essay on AO3, with clearer definitions and an added introduction!
NHS and the morality of revenge
Trope subversions in MDZS and SVSSS
How might NHS have found out about NMJ's death?
Yi City + 3zun parallels
JYL is a well-written character, actually (second is unfinished)
How the way the world views LWJ reflects his character arc
On LWJ remaining in the Lan sect after WWX's death
The Morally Grey Debate^TM from a different angle
On the nice, broad road metaphor and how LWJ ties into it
Any meta around or over 3k words which I'm sufficiently proud of will also be crossposted onto my AO3 account!
My favourite metas to read:
LWJ and JC being foils/the theme of "love is an action word" by @/rynne (there are two parts, they're not dealing with two different subjects)
The theme of resentment in MDZS also by @/rynne
WWX, making miracles, and what defines him by @/righteousinadversity
The development of WWX's attitude towards LWJ in his first life by @/wutheringskies
NHS, WWX and masks by @/morethanwonderful
There are many more, and this list will definitely expand as I track down them and their links. But I love all the metas I've reblogged, so feel free to scroll through the #[fandom] meta tag to see more recommendations!
With all that said, have a great day!
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