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loriane-elmuerto · 2 years ago
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🎵 + Lauren? 👀💕
Lauren Gilbert
nine - sleeping at last
honestly, it's easier / to let myself forget / still, i check my vital signs / choked up, i realize / i've been less than half myself / for more than half my life / wake up / fall in love again / wage war on gravity / there's so much / worth fighting for / you'll see / another domino falls / either way
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khaotunq · 1 year ago
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enneagram series - type 9: tinn, my school president "Accepting, trusting, and stable. They are usually creative, optimistic, and supportive, but can also be too willing to go along with others to keep the peace. They want everything to go smoothly and be without conflict, but they can also tend to be complacent, simplifying problems and minimizing anything upsetting." [x]
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misfithive · 4 months ago
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Simon's Journey - Eight x Sleeping At Last This is my contribution for Simon's month <33 it has nothing to do with the prompts but this song is Simon to me and I have been wanting to do this edit for over a year.
My special interest before young royals was the enneagram ( a personality test kinda but more complex) and Sleeping at Last did a series of songs based on each Enneagram type and this is the song for type 8. I love Simon so much and I have thought about his type a lot I know people have differing opinions but I think Simon is an 8 wing 9 which is The Bear. It is a special combination of type 8 (the challenger) and type 9 (the peacemaker).
Simon is incredibly protective, both of the people he loves and of himself. While he has the typical fire and sense of justice of a type 8 he also has the softness and idealism of a type 9. Type 8s can also be quite guarded after learning from a young age that it can be hard to depend on anyone but yourself. Their main journey is to learn to let that guard down and embrace vulnerability. I, like Sara think Simon is incredibly brave for continuing to love and open his heart to others when he has been hurt by almost everyone close to him. To continue to have an open heart and give love a chance after so much trauma is something that he does not get enough credit for. I have learned so much from Simon and I love him so much so this edit is super special to me!
I have been wanting to do a longer post about his enneagram which maybe I will do if people are interested but in the meantime this is my offering!! I had to cut the song a bit because of twitter time limits but I definitely suggest listening to the whole thing:)
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darkcircles4lyfe · 10 months ago
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Behind the locked door
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In honor of Izuku’s mask disintegrating into rubble, I think it’s finally time for me to really dig deep into his character. I’ve been keeping this one in my back pocket for a while. Amid all the talk about Izuku’s fading narration, the “control your heart” subplot, I’ve been trying to find the words to articulate how I know exactly where this is going, at least on a certain level. Most recently, I read this meta from pika who brings up how the word “control” alone can be misconstrued (by us). And then I thought about how a while back I made a similar point, although I said Izuku was the one who got it wrong. At that time, I was holding back a huge piece of evidence because it was external to the story and I wasn’t sure it would be received well. As a result, my argument fell a little flat. Well, now—after 411, right before leaks for 412—it might be my last chance to play this card.
So about that external evidence. I struggle to bring it up because it’s gonna sound an awful lot like I’m projecting onto Izuku if I don’t do it justice. But… I look at the way his storyline has been going lately and I see a pattern emerging that I’m very familiar with. Fortunately, I don’t have to dump a bunch of personal junk on you in order to illustrate this pattern, because a certain personality typing system already has it all figured out: the Enneagram.
Now, hang on. I’m not one to put people in boxes. My trans ass? I managed to get a different result every time I retook the P0ttermore quiz. MBTI, zodiacs—not my thing. But the Enneagram comes the closest I’ve ever seen to covering all the bases and revealing actually meaningful insight, at least for myself. On top of that, I find it extremely useful for fleshing out fictional characters, hence this post will be taking advantage of that.
For those who aren’t familiar with it, here’s a quick overview: The Enneagram consists of 9 individual personality types, each arranged carefully in a sequential, circular manner. They are also simply named 1 through 9. While this might seem kinda basic, there is actually a surprising amount of nuance and fluidity involved. Typing is done largely through personal introspection (you don’t really have to take a test). Adjacent numbers share some core themes with each other, and according to a web of arrows between them, one type can take on either positive or negative traits associated with other types depending on how emotionally ‘healthy’ they are, causing a lengthy spectrum of different ways each type can manifest. That part gets kinda complicated to explain here, so for more info, the Enneagram Institute website is a decent place to start. I also highly recommend the Enneagram album by Sleeping At Last (and if you really want to dedicate some time, the accompanying podcast) to really get inside the heads of the types on a deeper level.
My interest in applying the Enneagram to Izuku comes from observing how differently one can interpret his character based on whether you read him as a 2 or a 9. And even though no one uses this language to talk about him, the distinction accounts for a bunch of different rifts in the fandom: whether you appreciate bkdk’s relationship, whether you can acknowledge Izuku’s flaws and weaknesses, the severity of his vigilante/rogue phase, and most importantly the gravity of his concealed heart, his rage, and what it all means—what he needs in order to grow and triumph.
Discussion of Enneagram types in the fandom is pretty scarce, but where it exists, I have only seen him labeled as a 2. Type 9 and type 2 can be similar at a glance in a lot of ways (actually, 9s can be mistaken for any type because they are like all of them combined). It’s easy to see Izuku as a 2 because he is the helping hero archetype. He puts others’ needs above his own and he is always ready and eager to help. If you listen to Sleeping At Last’s song for 2, you’ll notice that it’s all about care and noble sacrifice with the underlying theme of neglecting or even harming oneself: “I just want to build you up, until your good as new, and maybe one day I will get around to fixing myself too.” Sounds pretty obvious, right? Well, here’s the thing. You really get to know what your type is by how it hits you where it hurts, so I like to focus on each type’s basic fear and basic desire, first and foremost, as a tell. A 2′s basic fear is of being worthless and unloved. Consequently, their most basic desire is to be loved. And 2s have been taught through their negative experiences that love is conditional, something they have to earn from others. They need to be needed. So let’s say you think Izuku is a 2. This means you consider his heroic, self-sacrificing tendencies to be a result of his growing up quirkless and being told he is worthless and powerless because of it. Through this lens, he is trying to prove himself to the world by being useful. Along these lines, you may also assume he is trying to prove himself to Katsuki. Taking this train of thought even further, you may interpret Izuku’s relationship with Katsuki as an obsession of his, where he is either blind to Katsuki’s more negative traits in favor of gaining his love and praise, or else bitterly determined to prove him wrong. This is how a 2 might behave in an unhealthy relationship with an 8, which, yes, I do think Katsuki is an 8. That’s a tangent for another time, though.
But does Izuku ever “need to be needed?” It’s worth noting that while 2s’ search for validation might seem insincere, it is actually motivated by a deep, heartbreaking insecurity. They think they don’t even deserve love unless they are useful to someone, so they do everything they can to be worthy. Does Izuku show signs of this motivation?
If I stop to think about it, I can’t exactly see this in Izuku’s character. Yeah, his dream is to be a hero, and in his childhood, he was denied that dream. However I think we need to take a step back from that for a second if we want to dig deep. I mean, a lot of the other characters also behave heroically, act selflessly, and strive to help. Does that mean all of them are 2s as well? Of course not. So let’s instead turn to observe how Izuku acts with his loved ones, friends, and peers in other/adjacent contexts:
Inko: He is committed to protecting his mother from fearing for his safety. He wants to be good enough to not cause her to worry, rather than good enough to make her proud or make her love him. Idk about his father but at this point I think it’s safe to assume he is deeply unimportant.
All Might: I would describe their relationship as one of mutual responsibility. Izuku feels a responsibility to uphold All Might’s legacy, All Might feels a responsibility to teach him well. Because of this mutuality, I don’t think it quite makes sense to say Izuku deliberately seeks approval for its own sake. You know what I mean? They may be a mentor and a pupil but in practice they are almost more like co-conspirators. They don’t really have a power dynamic going on.
Shouto, Tenya, other friends: Izuku seems to take an interest in what makes his friends tick, and he sets himself aside in order to both analytically and intuitively determine what’s wrong and how to solve it. Examples include his fight against Shouto in the sports festival, and his stubborn concern for Tenya’s reaction to his brother’s forced retirement. He will put himself in the line of fire specifically when confronted with another person’s inner demons. This is not a labor that is asked of professional heroes, it’s just who Izuku is. You can also extend this observation to how he sees through Tomura to Tenko, but I’ll get to that later. Basically, while 2s seek to help in all kinds of ways, a 9’s strategy is always centered on the realm of the mind.
Kota: Adjacent to the paragraph above, before Izuku literally gets into a position where he needs to save Kota, he becomes interested in the boy’s point of view out of genuine curiosity. He doesn’t go “oh no, this kid doesn’t like heroes, I better get him to like heroes.” Instead he seeks out information as to why he thinks that way, and patiently listens. He’s sorry about what happened to Kota, and he understands. Twice (ch 71 and 72), he recognizes the fact that everyone has their own point of view on quirks, and he can’t really do anything about that.
Mirio: This might be one of the most telling examples. Mirio is the platonic ideal of an All Might successor. He’s “perfect.” He even looks the part. While this initially makes Izuku uncomfortable, he doesn’t become insecure and defensive over it. On the contrary, he easily comes to the conclusion that actually, Mirio should have One for All. Just like that (ch 172). If Mirio hadn’t dismissed the “hypothetical,” he probably would have gone through with giving it to him. That’s not how a 2 would respond. A 2 would double down and aim to be better than Mirio by trying to establish some relationship of need, fueled by the insecurity. Their shared subplot with Eri would have looked pretty different, I think.
Katsuki: I’ve mentioned before that I believe their rivalry only exists because Katsuki put it there. First of all, we can see that after the sludge villain incident, Izuku weirdly takes Katsuki’s dismissal of Izuku’s help as practical advice. Like, “oh yeah, I guess what I did was pretty stupid and dangerous, and I’m not cut out for this hero stuff. Now I can move on and find a realistic career.” Hello?? He accepted that so easily. So Izuku clearly isn’t motivated by a desire to prove himself to Katsuki. Even when he proclaims he’s going to surpass him, it’s like he’s happily mimicking Katsuki, not reacting based on insecurity or pride. Izuku is content to meet Katsuki wherever he is, and he’s satisfied with whatever kind of relationship they are able to have, including a rivalry, so he isn’t vying for his affection either. We can observe this when he gives up the role of reaching out a hand to save Katsuki to Kirishima, and also when he thinks about how “blessed” he is to even have a normal conversation with Katsuki. He doesn’t push things. It’s also stated in Deku vs. Kacchan 2 that Izuku doesn’t excuse or overlook Katsuki’s “bad side” but still admires him for his other traits. This is not at all characteristic of a toxic 2x8 relationship.
When 2s are at their very worst or pushed into unhealthy situations, they tend to become more needy and self-centered, even downright manipulative. But at Izuku’s worst, when he went rogue, he pushed everyone away to avoid being a burden. When the refugees at UA tried to prevent him from returning, he was like, “you’re right” and would have turned back immediately if not for his friends, loved ones, and other people who care about him telling him it was all okay. Meanwhile, Katsuki, in true 8 fashion, was pissed off at being rejected and having to deal with Izuku’s stubborn and evasive side (oh yeah, have I mentioned 9s are actually stubborn as hell?), but he made sure to establish that they are (he is) here to step in when Izuku can’t handle things by himself. Katsuki even opened up and admitted to his own weaknesses to show why mutual support is so important. Tbh, a lot of the above can be construed as just super healthy type 2 behavior, but not this. The way Izuku acts at his lowest, and his dynamic with Katsuki? Totally different. Dead giveaway for a 9.
Let’s get into the type 9 itself in more detail to show how it applies to Izuku more deeply—seriously, it’s beat for beat. One of the key differences is, while 2s seek validation, 9s are actually resigned to the belief that they aren’t important. Similar to 2s, a 9′s basic fear is of separation, but their basic desire is actually just peace or harmony rather than love. Notice how these motivations are just like a 2’s, except they have the “self” part taken out. With that in mind, they “achieve” their basic desire through selflessness in and of itself, without the need for recognition. That’s not to say that 9s are better than 2s. In fact, a 9 can be worse, in a way. If unhealthy, they will seek peace at almost any cost to themselves. In other words, they can be more self-destructive while still under the impression that they are doing just fine. “Peace” may refer to the expression of empathy, fulfilling the needs of others, sheltering someone, or mediating a fight—but also to repressing their own opinions and needs, not “rocking the boat,” ignoring negative emotions, or becoming a vessel for someone else to vent to.
What about inner peace? 9s value serenity, and thus they have a complicated relationship with the most tumultuous of emotions: anger. On the surface, 9s look like the type that is extremely slow to anger and highly tolerant. However, as much as they would like to believe this about themselves too, deep down, 9s are afraid of what might happen if they lose control. My phrase for it is this: I feel like a bottled tornado. Personally, I also think of anger as a basic desire to make others feel your pain—not necessarily sadistically, but in an effort to be known, to be understood. The difficult thing to grasp, especially for a 9, is that this is NOT inherently a bad thing. It isn’t wrong to seek sympathy. On the contrary, it is harmful to tell yourself that getting angry is wrong, because it’s like telling yourself that your pain is wrong, your pain doesn’t matter.
The problem is it doesn’t stop there. A 9, in shutting down their anger, ends up with such a low opinion of their own heart, their other emotions dull along with it. They cry less, laugh less, love less. It’s often said that they “fall asleep” to themselves. It all starts with anger. It’s interesting to note how different this whole mindset is from toxic masculinity—where men only feel allowed/able to express emotions through anger. This is sorta like the opposite. Anger becomes the dam rather than the river. For Izuku, I want us to consider that his suppression of anger carries with it the implication that he is hiding other things, too. It’s a given. There’s a whole sea of feelings out there, and we can only see the waves hitting the shore. This brings me to the whole “control your heart” thing. I do think it is worth mentioning that Banjou didn’t just tell Izuku to exercise control. He also told him that his anger could be useful if it is harnessed. With this added context, “control” here means “to master.” And Izuku seemed to grasp this concept… sorta. I think that if Izuku is like a 9, we can assume he has trouble understanding how anger could be a worthy source of strength. His emotions in relation to Katsuki feel more like a weakness to him, a character flaw in a hero, who is supposed to be detached and selfless. But he’s trying to understand, even though he’s afraid of it. He essentially applied the same strategy he used for mastering OFA itself: incremental strength training. Which, okay. Take a moment to absorb how odd that is, in relation to emotions, specifically. Does one learn to cry incrementally? Does one learn to use anger by bottling a fucking tornado?? Like, what, you think you’re gonna be able to let out juuust the right amount of air to avoid an explosion??? No, man… if you want to be the master of your emotions you have to be willing to sit with them. Confront them. Listen to them. Take them in completely and accept them as a part of yourself.
For someone like Izuku, though, it is very difficult to imagine how this is even possible. Tomura, as with every villain, can be used to reflect his hero counterpart’s greatest fear about himself. Tomura literally touches everyone and everything with his rage, and as a physical manifestation of that desire to pass his own pain onto others, destruction radiates from his fingertips. Thus, losing control in this manner must be Izuku’s worst nightmare, as if he would be completely unable to stop the collateral damage like an infinite line of dominoes. But his anger is not something he can overcome, as such.
An overarching theme in this heroes vs. villains conflict is that the villains are not merely obstacles to be overcome. Just think back to Himiko’s bitter rejection of the heroic sense of superiority. She demanded not to be pitied, condescended to, or lied to. Likewise, the answer cannot be that Izuku needs to restrain himself where Tomura doesn’t. What purpose would it serve to show that Izuku is better than him? Certainly not saving Tomura. If this was a battle against AFO, it might have been a different story. In that case, Izuku would have to overcome his emotional manipulation tactics. Tomura, on the other hand, is not so strategic. With his strangely childlike tendencies, he must relish making Izuku mad because it brings them closer to the same wavelength. It’s his own twisted way or seeking sympathy, or at least, the closest thing to sympathy he can get anymore, because he believes he is beyond saving. With that in mind, Izuku isn’t going to get anywhere unless he rises to meet him. Izuku has to match Tomura’s hatred with equally strong emotions of his own, whatever they may be, or else face the loss of OFA (as established in 305). This is not an easy thing to ask of a 9, once they have started to pull the blood from their extremities, become cold and numb. Bringing back circulation is painful and makes the skin crawl.
In case you’re worried about the focus on anger here, I want to reiterate that concealed anger in a 9 is just one sign of so much more. Back when everyone started fretting about Izuku’s habit of self-sacrifice, which would have been the only thing we need to worry about if he were a 2, I was freaking out because Izuku was also starting to look like a person who has too many secrets. You don’t even have to acknowledge the possibility that he lied about what triggered blackwhip. It’s written all over his face all the time these days. It’s especially noticeable when you contrast him with Katsuki after all his own growth. Katsuki confides in people. He acknowledges his weaknesses. He enjoys being himself. He asserts his place. He thinks about Izuku all the damn time and now he even lets himself be soft about it. All this warmth while Izuku is distant, muted, and blank. I know all too well what this state of mind is like. Man, I hate secrets. You get to the point where you don’t know how to talk about even the simplest most inconsequential shit. And the bigger things? They’re like a growing snowball of words in your throat that cannot possibly fit out of your mouth. The “easiest” way to cope is to simply fade into the rhythm of life. Go with the flow.
Since 9s have a natural curiosity about the interiority of other people, they may choose to focus on that in order to divert their own attention away from themselves. Taken to the extreme, they will lose track of their sense of self. Like I said, you can see Izuku doing this as he fights, analyzing the psyche of his opponent, and his match against Shouto in the sports festival was a fantastic early example. They became friends because of how observant Izuku is. His emotional intelligence and intuition are very strong, but gradually, as he has taken on greater responsibilities and experienced more trauma, he has gotten worse at applying these skills to himself. You know, we go on and on about how his narration has been reduced to nearly nothing, and it’s not just an absence of introspection, it’s an absence of self. It creates a lack of ownership over the narrative—what should be his narrative.
Right now, he’s focusing on trying to see Tomura as a person, figuring him out. I think it would be really satisfyingly ironic if in the process, he ends up uncovering insights about himself instead. It’s about time we learn what Izuku’s secrets are. I don’t actually think that Izuku mastering anger will constitute the emotion that is strong enough to keep Tomura from taking OFA. Moreover, he can’t expect to reach Tomura’s core, Tenko, unless he exposes his own. Rather, anger is the conduit for Izuku to unlock something else. Think of the way he described how Katsuki is his image of victory. The feeling manifests when he asserts a stronger sense of self (the urge to win) and he becomes more free with his words. I have no doubt that Tomura has the power to make unfiltered honesty spill out of him. He knows how to bring out his selfish needs, his pain, his pressure points, his fears, his insecurities. Hell, maybe Mt. Fuji erupting is a metaphor. I want to see Izuku explode while Tomura watches with mad glee. But then I want Izuku to Realize Things such that it finally sets him free. Then, instead of Tomura witnessing yet another person he touches fall apart, he gets to see someone become whole.
"I let the scale tip, feel all of it. It's uncomfortable but right. And we were born to try to see each other through. To know and love ourselves and others well is the most difficult and meaningful work we'll ever do." --Sleeping At Last, 'Nine'
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wackus-bonkus-maximus · 10 months ago
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Same anon who just asked about why you placed Adrien as a 7 instead of a 2, only to look deeper in the reblogs of your ML enneagram post and see you already answered it haha!
In friendly defense of 2!Adrien, I’d argue that his reactions to being stressed coming off as more of a 7 rather than a 2 is actually a perfect reflection of the effects of his abuse; it’s fear that drives his non-confrontation tendencies rather his own nature. I think Risk highlighted that a bit in revealing how Adrien does desire confrontation, even if he doesn’t act on it.
(I have always found it interesting to consider the role that trauma/neurodivergency plays in shaping a character’s personality, since it’s one of the flaws I feel most personality assessments can’t really account for.)
I also think Chat’s arguments with LB were more like to be confrontational than avoidant (thinking of the times he’s called her out and his romantic pursuit being the primary indicators), up until she became the Guardian. So then with S4, I’d consider it to be a gradual relationship shift that leads to Chat no longer feeling safe and secure enough in his position to confront her the way he once did, which is why he only tries a bit in Kuro Neko before running, and then doesn’t try at all in Strikeback.
I hope this doesn’t come off as too preachy or anything, just wanted to share my 2¢! Cause either way you slice it, your Adrien has always been brilliantly written and incredibly in-character to me, so you’ve clearly got a rock solid understanding of his character. ❤️
hello november anon and sorry for the delay! thank you so much for the ask and also for going back and looking through my prev posts. you know my teacher heart loves it when you do the readings! 😌 also you're definitely not the only one who believes adrien is a 2 rather than a 7! and while i know there are good arguments for both sides, i'll explain in depth my position on adrien's personality.
part 1 of the ask:
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so here are the reasons i think adrien IS an enneagram type 7
adrien's motivation seems like that of a 7 to me: he wants to experience everything and be satisfied in every way he can. if he had a disney princess "i want" song, it would be "i want to go to school, i want to make friends, i want adventure in the great wide somewhere., i want to have fun."
the literal first shot of him in the show (if we use origins as a starting point) is adrien running away. nathalie asks him to please reconsider, he knows what his father wants, and adrien says, "but this is what i want to do." according to the enneagram institute, "sevens do not see themselves as the center of a community or family, but as members of a free-floating band of fellow adventurers whose own enjoyment is enhanced by being with others." going to school and having a new experience with new people is what's going to enhance adrien's enjoyment of life - not being the center of his family unit or the apple of his father's eye.
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a 2's motivation would be to be as loved as possible and to make themselves neeed by those they most care about. while adrien definitely shows a desire to be loved and needed, especially by ladybug, i think his primary desire is for experience, and it's this from which all his actions- not just characteristics - are based. take for example his reaction to getting his miraculous vs marinette's (also in origins):
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adrien is excited and intrigued and ready to go, as a 7 would be when offered a new experience - and a new way to satisfy their desire to try everything. marinette, as a 1, is quite the opposite: she is being put in a situation where she must do something right or fail, and therefore is stressed tf out. while marinette's motivation to be good/perfect fuels her anxious reaction, adrien's motivation to experience everything and be satisfied fuels his thrilled and slightly reckless reaction. that's why he charges out into battle without listening to all the instructions; his motivation was to escape the restraints of his life and try something new.
in growth, enneagram 7's take on the positive traits of 5's. in stress, they take on the negative traits of 1's. i have seen adrien exhibit these behaviors throughout the show on many occasions!
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according to the enneagram institute, "Sevens have fear about their inner world. There are feelings of pain, loss, deprivation, and general anxiety that Sevens would like to stay clear of as much as possible. To cope with these feelings, Sevens keep their minds occupied with exciting possibilities and options— as long as they have something stimulating to anticipate, Sevens feel that they can distract themselves from their fears." therefore, while one can argue that adrien's wealth of knowledge and fun facts is a result of everything gabriel has forced him to learn (mandarin, piano, fencing, medieval horse colors), we can assume he at least was interested in it - and that seeking new knowledge like a 5 kept him from lingering in his sadness.
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"i'll help you learn mandarin marinette" "i'll show you how to fence marinette" "most people think henry iv's white horse was white my lady" "do you need subtitles my lady i speak several languages"
now as to how adrien moves to the low parts of type 1 during the show: i think the main examples of this are the instances he adopts rigid, critical, and judgemental characteristics, which is potentially unpleasant for anyone who has to be around him.
first up, adrien's akumatized forms: chat blanc, ephemeral, celesticat
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i bring up the akumas because, though adrien isn't in his right mind (by hawkmoth's akumas), they are examples of adrien being in extreme stress.
as chat blanc, adrien wants to either right the world or destroy it for being wrong - the critical supreme judgement an unhealthy 1 is capable of. he lashes out when contradicted, and is quite ruthless even to marinette, who he loves, in the name of executing judgement.
as ephemeral, adrien seeks to control time. (however, this is probably the weakest example because adrien was being amok-controlled in this instance and was acting on shadow moth's will, not his own.)
i include celesticat because while this is an example of a "good" akumatization, adrien was still under so much stress that an akumatization was able to take place. yet even while being in "good" stress, adrien still shows characteristics of 1: perfectionism, righteousness, taking control of the situation. he literally turns into a pure white angelic being, an embodiment of perfection. it's what he believes he has to do in order to salvage the situation. it's one of the more healthier moves from 7 to 1 i have seen depicted in media and is entirely plausible concept under the enneagram's theory! this just goes to show the depth and richness of his character.
next, we will discuss adrien's various alter egos:
cat walker
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i've said it before and i'll say it again; cat walker is another move from 7 -> 1.
as chat noir, adrien is at the height of his 7-ness. he enjoys the freedom that his miraculous powers and secret identity gives him, and uses it as a means of escape from the regular constraints of his life and obligations. then in kuro neko when ladybug slights him, she denies him the fulfilment and satisfaction in reaching his full potential as chat noir (e.g., being of equal importance on the team as her) that he should be allowed. of course he becomes hurt and angry! she's stepping on his core desire in life.
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according to enneagram coach dr. tom lahue (my favorite enneagram guy ((also a 7)), "type 7's typically deal with anger by trying to avoid it or deflect it. that really is the anger type of a 7 - deflective. deflecting things away." that's what i believe cat walker is: a stress reaction, a deflection of his anger with ladybug. he deflects his painful emotions into something he thinks is positive; a new start.
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adrien is usually so joyful and optimistic, but this was a huge blow for him. dr. tom says the best way for a 7 to handle this anger is to be "real and genuine" when coming to terms with it, what does adrien do instead? he turns to a new alter ego. he chases the experience of fulfillment, only he does so by adopting a persona who is serious and perfectionist. obviously this was neither what adrien or ladybug needed, and that is because cat walker is a stress reaction who adrien cannot sustain without continued levels of unhealthy self-denial. this is the hardest he has gone to 1 in the show and what it took to snap him out of it was a level of reflection, analysis, and objectivity (that this was an unhealthy behavior) indicative of a type 5 - and which shows his progression to growth.
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2. aspik
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one can argue that aspik is more proof of adrien being a 2 than a 7 actually, as his motivations for becoming aspik were to woo ladybug. however, the stress response of a type 2 is to move to the negative qualities of type 8, which is to lash out at those who they believe have taken them for granted.
according to the enneagram institute,
"Average to unhealthy Twos seek validation of their worth by obeying their superego’s demands to sacrifice themselves for others. They believe they must always put others first and be loving and unselfish if they want to get love. The problem is that “putting others first” makes Twos secretly angry and resentful, feelings they work hard to repress or deny. Nevertheless, they eventually erupt in various ways, disrupting Twos’ relationships and revealing the inauthenticity of many of the average to unhealthy Two’s claims about themselves and the depth of their “love.”
as aspik, adrien was never resentful of ladybug for taking him for granted or making him feel rejected. as aspik, his goal was never to make himself needed by her. as aspik, he maintained some extreme levels of optimism that ignored the rational conclusion that he should give up for several thousand time loops. as aspik, he was able to let go and displace his hopes in himself to someone else - and run off to his responsibility as chat noir with high spirits (though i'm sure the ladrien kiss helped)
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3. griffe noire
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this has got to be the most stressful stress reaction i've seen on adrien. and you might say "but wackus he looks nothing like a type 1" and i say "JUST HOLD ON
going back to dr. tom's analysis on type 7's in anger, he says, "7's typically express their anger indirectly, e.g., through sarcasm, like 5's - like 6's sometimes... but they quickly try to move on and reframe into a more positive way." griffe noire, rather than telling jokes and puns to lighten the mood, mocks and ridicules poor toxinelle who has not convinced me she doesn't have a crush on him. 1's actually do the same thing when they are unhealthy; they criticize and blame and nag others for not being up to par, and by directing his anger at his situation onto toxinelle, griffe noire is doing the same.
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dr tom goes on to say, "in some cases [7's] might take impulsive actions to try to free themselves from this feeling of being trapped... engaging in frenetic escapism in behaviors or addictions or substances to try to distance themselves from those who are frustrated with them... or their own anger/pain in life." we have seen griffe noire engage in multiple frenetic behaviors while running amok (haha), all of which are clearly attempts to redirect his pain and anger/ keep it from consuming him. for example, griffe noire takes chat noir's cataclysm to the chest as though it's a game. for another, he openly threatens to destroy the entire world with his super cataclysm. and of course, he is constantly abusing his miraculous by over-exerting his powers in a way only adults should. yet all of these destructive behaviors are still adrien's way of escaping his normal life, and his everyday pain. it's almost like his self-destruction is his addiction.
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and yet by the end, it took the introspection of type 5 for griffe noire to realize that his behavior was unhealthy. he observed, he listened, he showed an inquisitiveness that brought him back from the brink. and he also upgraded his outfit so if that isn't a type 7 path to growth i don't know what is!
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now i know i won't have convinced everybody, so i just want to drop this section from the enneagram institute's text on misidentifying 2's and 7's:
Although both types are gregarious and enjoy being with people, their interpersonal styles are noticeably different. The Two... would like to be the heart and soul of a family or community, the best friend or confidant everyone comes to for attention, advice, and approval. Twos want to be significant to others and on intimate terms with them, although sometimes they go too far, meddling too much and being too solicitous to make sure they are needed.
adrien is not focused on being needed by anybody, not even ladybug (although due to his romantic interest in her, i can understand why people think so). being the heart and soul of the team is not what motivates him; primarily, i think he just likes having all the experiences he wouldn't otherwise get to have without being chat noir.
By contrast... Sevens do not see themselves as the center of a community or family, but as members of a free-floating band of fellow adventurers whose own enjoyment is enhanced by being with others.... Sevens may thus exhibit a certain generosity, although their motives may well have less to do with helping needier friends than with making sure that they themselves have a good time by having others around.
this isn't to say that adrien is just focused on having a "good time." i see that his enjoyment is amplified when he is surrounded by people he loves and cares for. he is motivated to have good experiences, and be fulfilled by trying everything, and becoming close to people and forming loving relationships is just a happy byproduct of that.
now there ARE several caveats to my analysis which provide potential arguments against typing adrien as a 7 - and which i can touch on briefly before i close:
adrien's abuse: i understand that trauma and anxiety can affect personality deeply. i'm not qualified to speak on this, or on how it should or shouldn't affect any personality type. i can only say that i think adrien has acted pretty consistently under stress as far as the show depicts
inconsistent characterization: i think we can all agree that ml won't be winning any awards for its consistency in characterization. which i know sounds contradictory to what i just said about how it depicts adrien under stress, but i think there IS a lot of discrepancy in this show and over the course of 9 years with different teams of writers all trying to execute one person's vision, inconsistencies are bound to happen.
thank you again for the ask, anon, and thank YOU if you have read all the way through! tell me your thoughts, if you make it down here - whether you agree/disagree or are just nodding along and letting me indulge in my enneagram brainrot! this is an entirely in-good-faith interpretation of mine, and i'd love to see other opinions if you have them!
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rainy-astrology · 1 year ago
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BTS Suga Birth Chart Analysis
Based on my opinion and observations. Not an expert. May change later
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March 9th, 1993
Daegu, South Korea
Unknown time
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Pisces sun is artsy, creative, sensitive, and empathetic. It should positively aspect his Pisces mercury. He genuinely seems like an emotionally intelligent person (esp with his interest in pyschology) as he's very patient and understanding. He's never raised his voice at the members or get very angry in general (except ofc for the few times he did fight with RM...I still wonder how Joon was able to get Yoongi so mad to the point of throwing things at him lol. But they were both very young and both have Cancer mars, an emotionally charged mars sign).
Virgo moon is reserved, prefer to detach and analyze their feelings and thoughts. This could be why he may seem "cold" to people. He's not, he's just calm and more controlled about his emotional expression like a majority of Virgo moons.
Having a Pisces sun and mercury though, he is able to comfortably express his deeper emotions through a creative outlet: his rap and lyrics writing skills. Music has always been his comfort and love. His song "First Love" is the best example for this.
Aries venus is in detriment. Being a Pisces sun, Suga is sweet and even a little idealistic at times, but Aries venus can make it awkward to express that. It's either he doesn't know how to initiate affection (e.g wanting to hold hands with the members but not knowing how to ask) or can be quite bold (e.g wanting a red string tattoo with the members. Could also be linked to his Pisces' romanticism lol)
Seems like a grand square is in his chart, which indicates many struggles and hardships. He's been very open about all the harsh things he's endured, so seeing this isn't surprising. Having to survive on small amount of money and working other jobs to support his career that was at high risk of failing, having unsupportive parents, shoulder and ear injury, mental illnesses, etc...
Possible rising: Aries. I have seen this to be his rumoured rising and I agree tbh. I'm not too sure about Venus in 1st considering how reserved he is (could be in his 12th). Mars could be in either 3rd or 4th. I am leaning towards 4th bc I know his parents weren't the most supportive of his career and he has made some implications that his parents were just a bit strict in general.
Sun and Mercury would be in 12th. Sun in 12th is perceptive and internal, preferring to observe from afar. A sense of detachment. Mercury in 12th keeps thoughts and feelings to self, so essentially a quiet and private person, which he is. Both are quite intuitive placements.
He has the passion and determined nature of an Aries. Capricorn MC also helps with the good self discipline and hardworking ethic that Yoongi has. Capricorn MC can also make one look serious and private, maybe a bit cold and workaholic, which a lot of people tend to say about him. Both signs share the ambitious and success seeking trait, which is very Yoongi.
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Other analysis:
MBTI | Enneagram
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Hiya!! This is for the Redacted matchups! ^-^
What song are you fixated on at the moment? What lyric or verse, and why?
- I'm on a The Crane Wives kick, listening to "How to Rest" and "Arcturus Beaming" on repeat. It gave me the name of my redacted demon OC actually lol. But How to Rest means a lot to me. I could quote the whole song, but I'll just put:
"Here's the truest thing I've ever know / The heart is just a muscle with a rhythm all its own / It doesn't stop when you decide not to move on / The heart knows nothing of your love or of your loss / So life just keeps on ticking by, compelled by instinct to survive / And love's the only thing worth being alive for"
What is your Enneagram type?
- I had to search a bit to find where to take this but I got Type 9? Sleeping At Last has songs based on each type and I relate to two and nine too much.
Do you love gargantuan Youtube video essays, and if so, which is your favorite and why?
- Oh god, yeah I do! I have so many favorites but I can give an older one and a newer one. Ladyknightthebrave's whole channel has my heart, but her "Dead Doesn't Mean Gone - A Haunting of Bly Manor Video Essay" has been engrained in my memory. The new favorite is Skyehopper's "Why Bastion Lies to You" because I do love that game, and its unreliable narrator. I mostly watch media summaries and analyses, and it's comforting to listen to people talk about the media that touches them.
Tell me about your childhood imaginary friend.
- So... I didn't have one? I felt so weird, like I was supposed to have one, but never did. May be the aphantasia in me, but my imagination hit after I found fanfic and went all in with OCs.
What is your go-to way to fall asleep?
- Video essays and videogame playthroughs! Curl up in blankets and put on an old favorite.
If you had to change your name, what would it be, and why? (In tandem, if you have changed your name, why did you pick that one?)
- Oh, I'm too indecisive for this, but maybe Ari? I like shorter names. I have more issue with my surname than my first name.
What is your favorite of Redacted's audios, and why?
- “Trying to Help Your Moody Vampire Sleep"(Porter) and "Time Is A Song. It's Also Water. He's Half Asleep."(Morgan). Both pairs are going closer in these!! Both set late at night and during the rain help too. After the craziness of the summit, it was so nice to hear Porter so gentle with Treasure. And Morgan being so open about how much he wants to know Seer was just so great~
What Redacted boy holds no appeal to you, and why? Like, not the one you hate but the one who you don't get the hype for.
- So I enjoy Flyboi. I've listened to Flyboi's epilogue multiple times. I have not touched Yandere Ivan's playlist. I don't think I will. I do enjoy the trope sometimes, but this one just isnt for me.
Tell me about that one book/movie/tv show you know all the words to.
- I get down on one knee, and hold up a little box. I open it. It has a slip of paper that says "Will you watch A Haunting of Bly Manor with me?" More seriously, I love what it says about grief, and our own personal ghosts that we carry with us.
Which Redacted boy are you platonically attracted to? Like- forget dating, which dude do you want to be your best friend?
- SO ABOUT MILO GREER— lol, mostly I just want that man to teach me how to dress. I want to watch him play horror games while we freak tf out and his mate laughs. Also Guy! Please gimme free pizza and ramble at me for 30+ minutes.
Do you have a go-to thing you ramble about when you're tired, and if so, what is it?
- That... is currently Redacted for me lol. Or Hades. Mostly though, I enjoy listening to the rambles of my friends, rather than being the one rambling.
Tell me your go-to gas station and drink combo.
- 7-Eleven was mine first, Gavin-- But yeah, Cherry Coke Slurpee, that's it.
Tell me about your favorite playlist at the moment.
- So, the Interactive Novel WIP "Speaker" has a playlist that I have carried onto every platform I listen to music to. Feels like a playlist the characters would be playing on the long roadtrips they take and I come back to it a lot.
What's your guilty pleasure media, and why?
- I'm not too guilty about it, but the Our Life games. They are just wholesome and good, and make me feel warm. Interactive fiction games too. Games that make you create an OC for them!
And whatever else you think tells me about who you are!
- I am a pretty big maladaptive daydreamer, and I deal with a lot of anxiety over being outside. I have gotten a lot better with it, though I can still be hard on myself when I feel like I'm taking steps backwards. I like to doodle, and make lists. I want to get a cat one day. I love horror even if I am a total wimp about it, and one time I hyperfixated on a bad romance series, read all 40+ books of it, and it certainly wasn't fun! But oh man, do I know way too much of how the author mixed up their own characters.
Really curious to what you pick, thank you so much!!
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There’s quite a few reasons why I’m choosing the redacted boi I am for you, but I have to admit the most nebulous but altogether vibey of them is that you and Elliott would be hella Crane Wives-coded.
Type Nines tend to be motivated by a desire for peace and harmony, a lack of conflict; another reason I like Elliott for you is because I think he could really get that, given he’s a middle child from a tempestuous home. Then there’s your identifying as a daydreamer with aphantasia. I love the idea of pairing someone who has trouble visualizing things with someone who could visually bring those things to life before your eyes, even if only in dreams. You also seem to love stories and character creation, and Elliott canonically a dreamwalking Dungeons and Dragons nerd; it’s a perfect match.
I’m so jealous, because I can’t imagine anything more fun than being a horror fan with Eli as a partner, even if you’re a wimp. He doesn’t care how many times you’ve both seen The Haunting of Bly Manor; he just cares about spending time with you- maybe getting cozy under a blanket with a cat on top of your laps. You two could watch any fun, horror media, and it’d be okay because he could turn any of your nightmares into good dreams. Maybe he plays the horror games while you watch and doze off, your own personal video game play through sleep-aid. (A chill one, I think, as Elliott strikes me as an unflappable type, at least when it comes to horror.)
Song:
I'll be the moon/ You'll be the sun/ We'll make the day glow/ You'll slowly rise/ And I will fall/ I'll be the sky/ You'll be the ground/ Under the hillside/ We'll slowly wait and watch it all
This was so tough to pin down since the Crane Wives Radio songs were all either tragic or epic in scale /lh I landed on this one because I was looking for neither of those things; I wanted something happy and comfortable and peaceful, which is all Elliott and his Sunshine truly need at this point. Also, the sun and moon imagery is just too perfect.
Runner-ups:
Ollie is a cute runner-up for you not just because I think you’d like the same things, like video games and horror but because he already has a cat that would obviously also become yours when you get together. Lasko is another runner-up for you for the same reasons! I think you’d share a lot of shared interests as well but different ones- namely fiction, OC’s, and horror that you can’t handle.
Read this post and send me an ask if you’d like a match-up of your own! 💌
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ooh I've been meaning to mention this to you: if you're still doing the arcana playlist—but even if you aren't have you ever heard of Enneagram by Sleeping at last? It presents songs meant to represent the nine Enneagram personalities! I love listening to it and thinking of ✨scenarios✨ lmao. The songs are just so so so gooood
One that really makes me giddy is Eight because it makes me think of Muriel (so of course I'd love it lmao). I know I typically include a whole rant about each of the songs but like the first time I listened to Eight really just.... hit me you know? Like ugh the vulnerability the tenderness.... just listen to it please I know Muriel is supposed to be 6w5 but I think that's just trying to assign the Enneagram to the mbti personality type. Idk I think (based on the songs) Six and Eight really just fit Muriel.
And for Asra? Nine. Absolutely Nine. "I've been living half myself for more than half my life." Asra Is very Nine—Nine and Two; Though I can see Nine and Two Applying to MC as well if you focus more on those romantic aspects "Wake up, fall in love, again and again and again..." (9)—oh but I could see Seven applying to Portia and Asra as well.
oh and I just wanted to mention Maybe it Lucio stans would disagree with me, but like Lucio has to be a Three right? Please if you love Lucio I wanna know if you think it fits lol. Also just listen to Three in General I swear you won't regret it. Whether or not you like Lucio just listen to Three please please please.
oooh and also; you don't have to, but if you can spare the time, I'd love to hear what two enneagram assignments you'd give to each of the characters based on these songs.
@paperstarwriters ooh I have heard of that song series!! And this is the part where I sheepishly admit that I know next to nothing about enneagram types - I tried taking the test myself a while back when all my friends were into it, and I kept getting a different result each time? I ended up so confused that I just decided to wait until someone had the time and investment to explain it to me XD
I did think about trying to get into it again when I was researching the characters, but I couldn't find any official assignments so I gave up :')
However, I am definitely interested in listening through those songs when I find the time and seeing which characters fit them!
Thank you for the essay friend, you know I always love reading them, and I'll be putting your suggestions on the list! ^.^
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pastafossa · 1 year ago
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hello! if u have not heard "two" by sleeping at last, i BEG u to listen to it. its our penguins' love in 4 and a half minutes, u would think they wrote it specifically for TRT 💛
I HAVE, IT ABSOLUTELY IS A PENGUIN SONG! I've got Two on the official TRT playlist for them cause holy shit that feels right all the way down to sweetheart, and the line about 'I just want to love you, to love you, to love you well. I just want to learn how, somehow, to be loved myself' gets me emotional every gd time. It reads like TRT from start to finish, is this guy reading trt orrr For anyone who hasn't heard Two (or any of his other enneagram songs, all of which are built with different tempos and melodies based on the personality types), I highly recommend giving it a listen cause it is totally a song for TRT's romance, and is one of my favorites for them.
Side note, some of his other songs I have on the TRT playlist:
One: a sorta sad song for Matt, since I headcanon his enneagram type is 1 or 2.
Two: obviously - this fits for both of them.
Six: a song for Jane, since I'll confirm this is her enneagram type.
Eight: this one's for both of them thanks to their backstories and the song's grown on me with time. It's so sharp and closed off at the beginning before becoming more vulnerable and gentle. Absolutely perfect for both of them.
Nine: a song for both of them; just fits I think.
Mercury: this one feels just so tragically, painfully about Matt.
Earth: a tragic Jane song, works sadly well for her backstory and her struggle with the boar.
Neptune: a song from Jane to Matt, works well for before she tells him about Los Angeles.
Pluto: a song from Jane to Matt as she learns to trust and eventually love him.
I'll Keep You Safe: A hopeful song from Matt to Jane about how he'll keep her safe as she discovers who she is.
You Are Enough: a song for both of them to the other as they build each other up.
(Bonus if you want to ugly cry, since it's not on my TRT playlist: Saturn, written from the perspective of Galileo's children after he passes, is what I hear for Jane to Ciro after he eventually passes away. You taught me the courage of stars before you left How light carries on endlessly even after death With shortness of breath you explained the infinite How rare and beautiful it is to even exist)
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chimairasden · 2 months ago
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100 questions for your OCs! (WIP)
I always wanted to do this! I prepared this list based on my way of building an OC and/or things I tought could be (more) original and funny. I would like to reach the number 100, so the post will be updated. ☀️ If you use them, I will be so happy and will glady read your answers even if we don't share the same fandoms. Just tag me!
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General information: (12)
Does their name have a special or a foreshadowing meaning?
Was their birthday chosen with intent or casually?
Do they have any distinctive feature? (e. g.: tattoos, scars, moles, a prothesis, a speech impediment...)
How would you describe their voice and manner of speaking?
Do they belong to a specific cultural background/heritage?
Are they associated with any political party or religious group?
Are they closer to their biological family or their choosen one(s)?
Have they figured out their gender and sexuality yet?
Are they satisfied with their current general situation? (e. g.: their looks, their love life, their job...)
List at least three things they like;
List at least three things they dislike;
Name an object they would never separate from.
Personality & Behavior: (12)
What's their zodiac sign?
What's their blood type? (see Ketsuekigata for reference)
Which traditional temperament describes them better?
Where would they be in the D&D alignment chart?
Are they a good communicator?
Are they good with kids, teenagers and older people?
How do they express affection for another person?
How do they apologize for a mistake?
How do they manage stressful situations?
What's their first reaction to a perceived threat?
Do they still grieve the past, live in the moment or are more future-oriented?
What's their worst habit?
❗ Some tests that could be useful ❗(6) ☀️ Attachment Style test ☀️ Big Five Personality test ☀️ Enneagram type test ☀️ MBTI test ☀️ Love Language test ☀️ Apology Language test
Symbolism: if they were... (12)
an alchemical phase;
an archetype;
a deadly sin;
an element;
a flower;
a gemstone;
a Major Arcana;
a moon phase;
a painting;
a song;
a virtue;
a weapon.
Key Visual: (7)
Let's give them a face! (You can draw them, use picrew or pinterest...)
Do they change often their hair colour or hairstyle? Show them!
What's their body-type? (Here you can find a useful chart)
Prepare a mood-board with at least four images for them;
Put together an everyday out-fit for them;
Put together a special out-fit for them! (You can choose what special means, from a job interwiev to their best friend's wedding)
What's in their bag? (I suggest this picrew but anything similar of your choice will be perfect)
Plot points: (8)
Every story is set in a time and in a space. Give us some informations on the world-building.
Every story has a start. What are your character conditions?
Every story knows, at least, one turning event. Which has influenced them the most?
Every story needs conflict. Do they face more internal or external one?
Every story brings you an emotion. Which one leads them?
Every story is like a recital: it needs a public. Who are their companions and who are their enemies?
Every story comes to an end. Is their tragic, ironic or peaceful?
Try to summarize the main plot or vibe in three words.
Miscellaneous: (5)
Between saving the world and saving a loved one, what would they choose?
Do they hold alcohol well?
Which Just Dance choreography would suit them better?
What username they would use on social media?
Who would be their emergency contact?
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Any suggestion and interaction will be appreciated!
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rainytypology · 1 year ago
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ATEEZ Mingi MBTI Analysis
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An in-depth analysis of an idol's MBTI type. Based on my opinion and observations, may change later. Not an expert.
Also happy birthday to this lovely man :)
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ESFP (Se - Fi - Te - Ni)
Dom: Se (Extroverted Sensing)
A perceiving function that uses our 5 senses to process the external world.
Snippet from his September Singles interview:
I debuted to show people my dance and vocals. But it is true that I hadn’t thought too deeply about how celebrities are expected to be more responsible and lead flawless lifestyles. I’ve always wanted to live as free as a bird, so these expectations felt like a huge burden at one point. But now I think they’re good for me. Having to live up to so many expectations means I have so much room for improvement at all times.
As Se is a present minded function, it seems like Mingi usually makes decisions on a whim - he didn't fully think about the problems of celebrity life as he was only focused on being a performer. He just jumped into it. Se can be prone to being impulsive as it's often a "just do it" mindset.
When writing songs, Mingi takes inspiration from his current surroundings. He talks about it in their little interview with Jonathan, how he gets inspired from what he sees on the streets.
Mingi, who explains his process of cataloguing his many thoughts to later draw from. “I write down a lot of them as memos on my phone, so I always go back to them to see if they match what we’re going through (as a group); that’s how I write my lyrics,” he says. “Sometimes I’ll think of it as writing a script, to really get into that persona." - i-D vice interview
Aux: Fi (Introverted Feeling)
A judging function that uses one's own values and belief to compare and make choices
Similar to Fi dom San, Mingi has a focus on being genuine as well. He wants a certain image for himself and puts in effort to build that image (fashion, the way he writes music). He only cares about his own perception of himself and wishes for others to have the mindset as well.
Mingi's always been a free spirit, but his longing for authentic self expression clashed with having to conform to idol standards. This likely caused an internal self conflict within Mingi. During his hiatus, he mentioned taking the time to have deep reflection on himself and wanting to be himself more, wanting to be better. High Fi users often want to work on expressing themselves authentically, wanting to be their most honest and best selves.
Tert: Te (Extroverted Thinking)
A judging function that uses established facts and systems to make objective, working decisions.
Mingi has stated he likes to gain new experiences as they can serve as some sort of life lesson. A bit of a mix of Se - Te statement though; Se likes experiences and he is able to put these lessons to use (Te).
Inf: Ni (Introverted Intuition)
A perceiving function that uses one's own personal insights and ideas
He seems to have some decent use of Ni - he has been planning his career and goals since he was a teenager and has successfully reached those goals. Still it is inferior as most of his choices have mainly been spontaneous. However, he's still glad of the way things turned out for him in the end.
I would also like to think Ni helped Mingi with his self reflection during his hiatus. Se doms can use their inferior Ni to search inside themselves to see what they truly want in life.
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Why he's not an ENTP (Ne - Ti - Fe - Si)
I do not see Ne dominance in Mingi or any Ne usage in him in general. Comparing him to actual Ne users Yeosang (INTP) and Yunho (I'm currently unsure if he's an ENTP or ESFJ. That Ne - Fe is strong in him tho), even to inferior Ne types like Hwa (ISFJ) and Jongho (ISTJ)... I do not see it strong enough in Mingi for him to be typed as an ENTP or any Ne type.
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Other analysis:
Enneagram | Birth chart
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chimi-cheese-fries · 3 months ago
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Match Up! w/ @tigreblvnc
After reading your info, the person I thought of immediately was...
Yukimiya Kenyu || 雪宮 剣優
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ᯓ Based on how you describe yourself, you seem self-assured and confident with who you are. I feel like you'd like someone who's also confident in their own abilities and themselves as a person—that someone is Yuki.
ᯓ You probably found it admirable how he stood up for himself after being benched because he is aware of his own capabilities and dislikes being downplayed like that. In other words, you respect his fighting spirit.
ᯓ The same could be said vice versa, of course.
ᯓ Both of you like to tease people and have some good fun. The witty banter between the two of you would be endless. Despite the playfulness in your personalities, it's mellowed down by the fact that both of you are laid-back people.
ᯓ The humor isn't too over the top nor is it too dry. It's just the right amount of enthusiasm and you match each other's energy.
ᯓ I know the opposites attract trope is popular, but I'm more of a believer that people that are cut from the same cloth go better together (or whatever that Billie Eilish song says).
ᯓ With that said, I find that you and Yuki are quite similar, especially when we talk about your independent nature and goal oriented mindset.
ᯓ You both seem like hardworking people and that then earns respect from each other. I don't think that either of you would be with someone with little to no ambition in life.
ᯓ Your relationship is built mostly on your support for each other.
ᯓ Both of you value your alone time just as much as your time together. You know that you are your own person and both of you have your own responsibilities and goals to achieve. So you understand if the other needs time to figure things out by themselves or if they simply need some "me" time.
ᯓ The fact that you don't like people who disregard your efforts/qualities caught my attention because this reminds me of Yuki. Since both of you dislike this kind of treatment, I don't think you would treat each other like that even if things go rough.
ᯓ You know how much it hurts or how annoying it is, so you wouldn't use that against each other.
ᯓ Yuki seems like an incredibly well-mannered person who is also well-cultured. You two are basically like peas in a pod.
ᯓ It's thought that Yuki actually understands German. Perhaps he has an interest in European culture as well—similar to you.
ᯓ Yuki's an analytic person who takes the best course of action for himself. He aims to understand the reasons behind the decisions of other people as well. In this aspect, again, I think the two of you would get along nicely.
ᯓ Your discussions would be interesting. Lengthy, but interesting.
ᯓ You can expect a lot of constructive debates and insight from each other.
ᯓ Your relationship's like a well-oiled machine—you know when it's time for fun and when it's time to be serious with each other. I just think both of you would be very mature and understanding of each other.
ᯓ I imagine a lot of dates at the cafe or trips to other countries.
ᯓ It takes both of you a while to get used to physical touch, but since you match each other's pace, there wasn't a need to feel pressured to please the other person right away.
ᯓ Yuki's quite a down to earth person. He loves his parents, he's not materialistic, and just a simple guy overall. I think you'd like that about him.
ᯓ Judging your fashion style, you two would complement each other. You go for a more practical style while Yuki always dresses a bit more than what the occasion intended.
ᯓ It's interesting to see how, over time, your styles will influence each other's. Sometimes you talk about fashion too.
(I'm sorry. I don't know shit about enneagrams and stuff.)
ᯓ You're an ENTJ while Yuki's an ENFJ. Only one letter off. Although, I think this is very complementary.
ᯓ You offer the more practical/systematic side of things, while Yuki gives you a perspective that involves emotions. It balances out, basically. Sort of like covering up for each other's weakness or something along those lines.
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lingy910y · 1 year ago
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Weekly Tag Wednesday
thanks @deedala for the fun game! (even tho i do not trust those two bitches 🤨)
name: ling
zodiac sign: virgo ♍️
personality type in enneagram, myers-briggs, or both: 5w6 (edit: i'm actually a 5w4 i forgor), INTP
before we hit the road, what snack are you gonna bring for our trip? classic croissant 🥐
navigator gets to pick the music so what song are you turning on? move like u stole it by zz ward paul oakenfold remix obviously (it’s my most played song on spotify of all time)
what is a universe from a fantasy tv show you would like to visit? pokémon, low stakes and you have fun
and what about a fantasy movie? spirited away
okay, what about a scifi tv show? voltron: legendary defender?
and a scifi movie universe? idk much sci-fi movies, let alone safe ones 😭 i’m good with whatever you guys want
any other tv show or movie you’d like to swing by before we move on? no, i feel like i’ll drop dead the second i land in any of my fav medias 😭
okay hold on to your butts we’re switching gears to fanfic universes. tell me which fanfic universe we’re visiting first? naur i don’t read much AUs either 😭 the one AU i rly like is based off a historical event that killed hundreds of ppl
cool, do you have one more you’d like to stop at before we head home? okay genshin’s universe!!! the scenery and cultures are gorgeous, even if once in a while we will experience a catastrophe…?
alright, on our way out of fanfic land you get to snag some tropes to bring home and apply to your own life, think fast!
soulmates or enemies to lovers // coffee shop or flower shop // fake relationship or slow burn // amnesia or time loop // body swap or miscommunication // love triangle or arranged marriage // sharing a bed or drunken confession
wow okay, hope those tropes work out for you!! our adventure has finally come to an end, where in the world am i dropping you off? japan thanks :D
tagging fellow passengers! @michellemisfit, @juliakayyy, @lupeloto, @jademickian, @energievie, @krystallouwho, @sleepyfacetoughguy, @mmmichyyy, @vintagelacerosette, @iansw0rld, @depressedstressedlemonzest, @ardent-fox, @softmick, @heymrspatel & @tanktopgallavich 🚑💨
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wallpaper-inside-my-heart · 11 months ago
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stellaaaa as i ruminate on mine tell me: who are your top 3 favourite bands/musicians? - katie
take your time @jovenshires😹💕
This is a super easy question for me tbh. And everyone who ever talked to me about music will know nr.1 and 2 for sure 😅 And most mutuals on tumblr could prob guess at least one of the two, since my url is based on the first; and I've made several posts about the 2nd 😹 (Spommy tv, my beloved)
The Amazing Devil ❤️
-> hands down, the best band of all time imo; I just love all of their stuff so much, both in terms of lyrics, voices and just the musical composition of their songs in general. And I would literally sell my first born child or whatever just to see them live one day 💚
2. Taylor Swift 💖
-> I will be fully honest and admit that it's only been a few years ago, that I fully started listening to her music. But I fell in love with it more and more and so far have accumulated literally over 600h of listening to her music on spotify, just this year 😅
3. Sleeping At Last 💙
I've loved this guy's music for years now! Especially his atlas 1 and enneagram albums! But this year I also listened to the podcast where he talks about the creation process behind a lot of his songs. and it's just so fascinating to hear about all the thought that goes into every little detail of his work!
Some honorable mentions, that I also listen to a lot:
Ed Sheeran (especially his albums this year, like dude's really going through it), Florence + the machine, Passenger, Bo Burnham
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ambiguouscheese · 9 months ago
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matchup information:
status: closed (:
fandoms i'm comfortable writing: genshin impact, honkai star rail, mystic prince, six of crows, nevermore, marionetta, voltron, atla
fandoms i've been in before (know it less tho): harry potter, marauders, stranger things
if there's a fandom you don't see on here, feel free to request it and if it's a fandom i've been in or encountered before, i'll write the matchup for you! if it isn't tho, please do have a backup fandom for me to write for :)
1 matchup per fandom
max fandom request: 2 (except for elaborate aesthetic personality matchups)
types of matchups available: appearance matchups, basic personality matchups, elaborate aesthetic personality matchups
anons allowed!
please read below for more details
note: while each matchup has an estimated amount of time it'll take to finish, how long i actually end up taking will depend on how busy i am at the moment, please be patient! thank you
appearance matchup description
*it is preferred if you aren't anon for this matchup because if you give me your pics and would like them to be private as an anon, i can't really reply to your ask directly!
pic of yourself
specify preferred gender for matched up character
specify characters you specifically do not want
specify if you want a minor or not
i will get back to you in 1-2 days as this is the simplest kind of match-up
i will include the character(s) i have chosen for you based on which ones i think aesthetically fit how you look
this is the most basic kind of match-up, i basically just match you up with someone who i think you would look good with based on appearance and so all i need is your picture!
basic personality matchup description
description of your personality (mbti, enneagram, zodiac, whatever you want! just tell me about yourself)
likes, dislikes, and hobbies
specify preferred gender for matched up character
specify characters you specifically do not want
specify if you want a minor or not
i will get back to you in 1-6 days
i will include sfw headcanons and a description about you and the character i have chosen for you
this is your usual matchup where i read the info you've given me and match you up with a character that i think suits you best! only sfw headcanons and descriptions, and feel free to add any extra little details about yourself!
elaborate aesthetic personality matchup description
*you can only request from ONE fandom for this matchup
description of your personality (mbti, enneagram, zodiac, whatever you want! tell me about yourself)
likes, dislikes, and hobbies
aesthetic (eg: you're more cottagecore or you're more grunge, search up different kinds of aesthetics if you don't know!)
color you think represents you
favorite music artist or song or album
optional: choose multiple things that you think represent you (eg: hyacinth flowers, lip stained wine glasses, vanilla candles, etc)
specify what kind of tropes that you do NOT like
specify preferred gender for matched up character
specify characters you specifically do NOT want
specify if you want a minor or not
i will get back to you in 7-14 days, depending on how busy i am
i will include sfw headcanons, a description about you and the character i have chosen for you including dates i think the two of you would go on or songs i think the two of you would like, a trope or two that i will assign to you and the character's dynamic, a mood board for you and the character you've been matched with based on the descriptions you've given
the more detailed you are, the more elaborate i am able to be!
this is the most elaborate of all the matchups where i'll give you a mood board for the relationship between you and the character you've been matched up with! as well as this, you will receive a trope or two, songs you might listen to together, and potential dates you'd go on. again, as this is the most elaborate, these will take me the longest so please do be patient!
request through the asks!
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milkmaidovich · 1 year ago
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Milkmaidovich Plays Catch-up
I am BEHIND pals
Had a long week and a half of Book Stuff to finalize (who knew cover design would take up so much of my brain [it's me, I knew]) but it's all finished so it's time to CATCH UP!
(This post will be a Tag Game Tuesday post, with everything else getting its own)
Jul 18 Tag Game Tuesday
Thanks to @howlinchickhowl @auds-and-evens @mickeyheartian @scurvgirl , @tanktopgallavich , @metalheadmickey , and @vintagelacerosette for the tags!
name: kat
pronouns: she/her
where do you call home? A state I don't particularly like in the southeastern US (it’s very red which is hard for this queer anti-capitalist socialist) but it was a career-related move so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
favorite animal: hiphopopopotamus
cereal of choice: love me a strawberry & yogurt Joe’s-O from Trader Joe’s, or the churro Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and also a Honey Nut Cheerio if I can’t get the other two
are you a visual, auditory, or kinesthetic learner? Kinesthetic is the main one, the writing/doing is helpful for my ADHD, especially if I mix and match with visual/auditory
first pet? Carnival Goldfish that we had living in a crystal punch bowl
favorite scent? Tuberose, amber, oud, leather (I love a darkspicy scent)
do you believe in astrology? Eh? Kind of? I see some undeniable traits of the signs in myself and those around me but also I see a lot of incorrect stuff so it's more for fun than for basing life choices on
how many playlists do you have on spotify/apple music? Literal hundreds, I'm not going to count
sharpies or highlighters? Sharpies FOREVER
a song that makes you cry: uhhhhh most recent one is Unknown/Nth by Hozier
a song that makes you happy: SO MANY! Most recently: The Hellcat Spangled Shalalala (Suck It and See is always in heavy rotation in the summer)
and finally, do you write/draw/create? if so, use this as an opportunity to shamelessly (😉) promote yourself! I write sometimes! Hopefully more now that I've got some more time! Find me on AO3
July 25 Tag Game
Thanks to @celestialmickey, @transmickey, @lupeloto, @harrowhark-a-vagrant, and @scurvgirl for the tags!
name: kat
age: 33
pronouns: she/her
your sun sign, MBTI type, and enneagram type (google them if you’re not sure!): cancer 🦀, ENTP-T, 9w1/8 (I don't really understand the MBTI/enneagram stuff if someone feels like explaining)
how tall are you? 5'3.5" (1.6m, 161cm)
what color are your eyes? Greeeeeeen
the last time you saw a movie in theaters (bonus: what was it?): UH the super Mario movie with my kid? I think? A couple months ago
favorite dessert: peach pie/cobbler ALWAYS
outer space or the ocean? The ocean, why the fuck do we need to keep going to space when the ocean is RIGHT THERE
you’re in a McDonald’s drive thru, what are you ordering? 10pc chicken nugget, fries, sprite
are you good with plants? Maybe?????? Genuinely unsure
would your current self and high school self get along? Lmao maybe?????? Honestly it's 50/50
a food you can’t stand: FUCK BEETS
something you’d do if money were no object: TRAVEL AND CONCERTS AND TRAVELING TO CONCERTS
the last app you opened on your phone (tumblr doesn’t count!): DayForce
and finally, compliment yourself! You are better at learned skills than you give yourself credit for!!
Since these are so behind I won't tag anyone but if you didn't get tagged and want to play, consider this your tag!
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