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Loki: *turns blue*
Odin and Frigga who had totally forgotten Loki has a Jotun appearance after a thousand years of seeing him as normal: wait what
#nah we talk about thor reacting to loki's appearance and loki doing so but they didnt even have experience with the jotun#meanwhile odin and frigga who are much older and do but loki has been normal skin tone range for so long it's like. ????#loki while blue: why didnt you tell me#odin feeling lightheaded: right i forgot that was a physical thing#frigga: it isnt such a big deal sweetie--wait what happened to. where did your green eyes go#loki just bawling his eyes out while odin and frigga awkwardly stand around not going to comfort him when he is blue#they are in shock too
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I SAW SOMEONE SAY MOBIUS GIVES OFF ODIN VIBES WHEN TALKING ABOUT HIS DYNAMIC WITH LOKI.
Odin???? Odin the terrible father??? Odin "Your birthright was to die" Odin??? Odin who lied to Loki his whole life and his original plan for him was to be a political peace offering??? That Odin??? And you think Mobius, Loki's best friend Mobius, "Thanks for the spark!" Mobius, hugged Loki for so long its the longest hug in the MCU Mobius, was obsessed with Loki variants Mobius gives off the same vibes??
I can't do this, WHAT about their dynamic gives off father and son??? "But Don's sons are literally Loki and Thor! Look at their bikes!" God forbid a man have two sons 😭
Anyways I think it's important to share this again:
#lokius#loki series#loki laufeyson#loki odinson#loki#loki marvel#mobius m mobius#mobius marvel#mobius#i cant stand people who dislike a ship and do everything in their power to make the ppl who ship it weird#at least with sylki it actually IS weird because it's self-cest and somewhat incest#if sylvie was never taken by the tva#she would still be the adoptive daughter of odin and frigga and sister of thor#which is the same as loki so they would be siblings#so it is self cest AND incest#but all ant-lokius shippers have to say is that it was a father son dynamic when it really REALLY wasnt#mobius is OLD and loki is 1000 theyre both adults just because mobius looks older doesn't mean their relationship is weird#so dont go going around saying its father and son because thats creepy af#i suggest you get therapy if you think THATS what a father and son dynamic looks like#anyways i'll stop yapping#marvel#mcu
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#my two favorite boys just chilling#I have two other mini animations of them planned#at some point I would like to try to really animate my boy pk and do an action scene where he fight some evronian#but it would take so much time!!!!!#I already should be working on my graduation project instead of this haha#donald duck#odin eidolon#donodin#pkna#paperinik#duck avenger#duckverse#animation loop#kiwi's animation#🥝animation
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u know what though... i don't think this facepalming is for the witnesses in the room, but i also don't think it's an "oh no, thor's so stupid" facepalm, i think it's a "why the fuck did i do that?" one. i don't think loki especially wants to invade jotunheim, he just thought it'd be a laugh to get thor to do it, but then oh shit thor is actually going to do that so now he needs to sabotage it somehow (telling the guard) but also:
"shit, i've fucked this up, haven't i?" it seemed like such a good idea two minutes ago. couldn't help himself. wouldn't it be funny if? but now they have to go to fucking jotunheim and he could so easily have just not done that. oops! facepalm time!
#thor (2011)#whoever called this movie the story of an accidental coup is right.#but it's not that loki's entirely innocent it's just that he hasn't planned ahead. each initial fucked up thing was unconnected#and he just took advantage in the moment to do what he thought would stir the most shit.#let frost giants in because that would be a laugh. now you can get thor to make a stupid decision! do that too!#now dad's in a coma and you can just tell bro he can't ever come home because he killed dad and mum hates him! LOL!#now you're regent and you could be normal about it... OR you could deliberately provoke people you don't like#which makes them stage a counter-accidental-coup oops!#each step is unplanned and *could not* have been planned ahead of time he's just fucking with people repeatedly for shits and giggles#because loki appears to assume odin will wake up and there's no way thor will be stuck on earth forever once that happens#so it can't be something he thinks is going to stick. he's not *actually* able to exile thor forever on his own authority.#but IN THE MOMENT it was funny to fuck with him :)#and to just straight up fucking lie to him :)#and to pretend he's lost the throne to you :)#because loki does not consider the consequences of his actions even though on the evidence of this film it doesn't work out well for him.#therefore this is the facepalm of 'why did i do this to myself?'#fandom thinks loki's a good king due to Being Smart which a) nice obvious classism you have there but also b) he's also dumb as rocks.#he is capable of smart but he can and will fuck things up anyway because he is less capable of being sensible.#so while thor is indeed impulsive i think loki was equally impulsive in his own desire to use thor's impulsiveness against him.#because it'd be funny! right up until the moment it turns out thor really is going to do the thing you just convinced him to do D:#oops lol what am i like!#there'd be an instagram selfie oh him doing a thumbs up gesture captioned 'just told thor he can't come home LOL!'#'me on the throne ha ha bet none of you saw that coming! ps dad is in a coma pls send your thoughts and prayers 🙏 mum is sad :('#'turn your tv on guys i'm invading migard lmao'#'that's me on the news!!!! thor's here too wasn't expecting that might stab him when we meet up lol i love him he's my fave avenger💚'#anyway that's why loki is my problematic fave in this movie
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Look, I am quite critical of TR myself, but I saw a post calling Loki's depiction there "cowardly" reblogged by some blogs I follow because he had self-preservation, and like, isn't the whole point of why we like Loki that he doesn't fit into Asgard's stringent ideals of honor and glory? Isn't that his tragedy? What are we, Asgardians? Lol.
#also i fucking hate when self-preservation is framed as cowardice. are y'all gonna say he should have turned himself in after t:tdw next?#and 'might is right' as honor#i dislike TR for how it fails to take anything seriously + the stupid retcons + Thor being an asshole & getting framed as right by narrativ#but loki is just trying to survive?#even the betrayal can be interpreted as a means to protect thor bc thor had no fucking plan whatsoever#and thor just got lucky loki involved himself later by bringing the ship. otherwise asgardians would be extinct.#also; that post was blaming him for bringing hela to asgard bc he called for the bifrost to escape#and like; idk there's other people i'd blame first before that... notably odin; frigga; and hela bc she is doing the destroying...#mcu!loki#tr critical#im the sort of person that often finds “honor” stupid... so...#lots of dumb shit could be prevented without honor#i consider loki to be a very brave character. it's a consistent trait. in the end he always ends up sacrificing himself for others.#if anything that cowardice is loki showing a healthy amount of self-preservation for once
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Loki had no right to envy thor and praise the ground frigga walked on when odin was a shitty dad to all three of his kids
Alright! Time to talk about something that is not discussed enough: jealousy between siblings that grew up in parental abuse/neglectful situations.
As someone who grew up in an abusive/neglectful environment and has siblings, + knows many people who have the same set of parameters, jealousy between siblings is sort of natural byproduct because guess what!
Parents never, never, never abuse/neglect every kid in their family in exactly the same way.
My parents were awful to my siblings in ways they weren't to me, but I'm jealous of the good things they did to for them because they didn't do that with me (i.g. when I was looking for a job last year, i got yelled at every time I failed; when my sister was looking for a job, my parents were very present for her emotionally and assured her she was doing the best she could when she didn't get the job. Their patience was absurd to me) Stuff like that + bigger things. If we were neglected/abused in exactly the same way, my sister would have gotten yelled at, too, or I would have gotten support, but it didn't happen like that because parents don't DO that, even in healthy environments, parents are never the same parents to their kids.
Likewise in ways they were awful to my siblings, they were LESS awful to me, so my siblings are jealous of that. when you're raised in an environment where you have to fight for love and scraps of affection when your parents are in a parenting mood, you are always jealous when someone manages to get the scrap. Like yes, your siblings (often) become your closest friends and confidants in that situation because there's no one else who understands it like they do, but because the abuse/neglect is so different for everyone, it causes resentment.
So here's the thing: Thor, Hela, and Loki were not abused in the same way. Loki can have an amazing, healthy relationship with Frigga (he does not, but we can pretend for a moment) and Thor is fighting for scraps of love from her. (Parents and their parenting moods are weird) and Thor can resent Loki for that because he needs a mom too. Thor can get all the attention from Odin and have a healthier (it is not healthy) relationship with Odin, and Loki can resent him for that, even though he has a "good" relationship with Frigga, because he still needs a dad. Hela can have been banished and raised as Odin's sword and have NO good or even good-ish relationships with Frigga and Odin and she resents Thor and Loki for that because she needed parents.
But is all their trauma valid even though the WAY they were traumatized is different? Yes. Can we look at them and objectively choose the "worst" victim between the three of them? No. We can't. Because different things traumatize people differently. And why should we? it's not a competition. Even though parental abuse/neglect has a tendency to pit siblings against each other despite (usually) said siblings best efforts otherwise, it is NOT A COMPETITION.
Loki has every right to be angry with Odin over what he did to him even though Odin was terrible to all his children because IT! IS! NOT! A! COMPETETION! ABOUT WHO WAS ABUSED MORE! The most suffering victim doesn't "earn" the right to be traumatized. everyone was traumatized. Everyone gets therapy. They're just going to talk about different things in therapy and THEY ARE ALL STILL TRAUMATIZED.
I guarantee to you that if they were real people, Thor would absolutely be jealous of Loki and Hela. Loki would be jealous of Hela and Thor. Hela would be jealous of Thor and Loki, EVEN THOUGH all of them are being abused, it's just the fact they're not being abused in the same way.
And this is WHY I am always in awe of their relationship in canon because it is one of the best written sibling relationships under abuse I have ever seen because it is REAL. (The Umbrella Academy s1 did this spectacularly, also, btw) Sibling relationships under abuse are so so so messy because everyone is in survival mode and it causes SO MANY issues.
and guess what! Everyone IS jealous of each other
^ Thor's resentment that he wasn't taught anything by Frigga (listen to the way he says this, he is very jealous and bitter, i WISH they had poked this more)
^ hela jealous odin replaced her with Thor
^ loki jealous that Thor got more attention than he did from their parents + people in general (all this attention wasn't a good thing) (funnily enough, for someone who is said to be SUPER jealous, this is the only time in canon I can think of Loki actually admitting that he is)
so anyway, sibling resentment HAPPENS but everyone is still abused/neglected and it all sucks and EVERYONE deserves therapy. And hey, if Frigga decided to actually be a parent to one of her kids (she didn't) then I am HAPPY because at least SOMEONE got a parent, even though Thor deserved a mom just as much as Loki did.
#thor meta#loki meta#hela meta#hela#loki#thor#odin's a+ parenting#child abuse#we do not talk about sibling relationships and abuse enough#it would have helped me so much when I was younger if I knew any of this instead I just thought i was a monster#turns out i was just 13 and exhausted
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Long Haired Snotlout...For the soul
#Showed this to my brother (who is also into HTTYD) and he immediately asked why it looks like Snotlout has breasts#Brother it was ODIN that blessed him with those knockers. I am but the messenger#I have been thinking about the realities of a transman Viking though. Who's gonna do top surgeries? Gothi?? GOBBER???#I think Snotlout would probably be NoOp anyway. He knows he has the perfect physique already so why bother changing anything?#You don't mess with perfection. And Snotlout Jorgenson IS perfection.#httyd#httyd snotlout#httyd art#httyd fanart#httyd rtte#race to the edge#rtte#rtte snotlout#rtte fanart#snotlout fanart#how to train your dragon snotlout#snotlout jorgenson#snotlout snotlout oi oi oi#trans Snotlout#how to train your dragon#snotlout
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practicing a portrait. it's been a while since i painted
#my art#oc art#digital art#my oc#artists on tumblr#illustration#scarlet hollow#scarlet hollow mc#Odin Scarlet#<- not even sure if i have a tag for him or not. but ill make one i guess#i want to paint again its just that i have so little energy for coloring things in these days guhh#so ive been doing mainly sketches or flat colors#i am gripping my energy levels by the throat. RISE. RISE . WHERE IS YOUR RAGE RISEEE
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and when you must tear loose, follow you i shall
#logyn#loki#sigyn#vinces ocs#vince draws#lmao i need to relearn to shade this is taking the michael but i just do not have the wherewithal rn#odin bound her with the svefnthorn so he bound himself with her name to stick his fingers up because he thinks hes funny#he is soooooo disgustingly in love with her and has been since he met her#it took her a little longer to get the oh moment
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the winternight trilogy has me frothing at the mouth and i wanted to try and capture some of the characters
#winternight trilogy#morozko#the bear#medved#vasilisa petrovna#katherine arden#sketches#i cant even remember when i last made art based on a book#its so nice to not have to worry about likenesses of actors or realism for a change#and just try and capture the vibes of characters#morozko is a skeletal emo twink i think#medved is just odin by another name (you cant change my mind)#and vasilisa vasilisaaa i love her so much id die for her#i want to do more drawings of her presenting as masculine bc im insane about it#and of solovey#and of medved messing around with konstantin#but its time to sleep
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Finally checking Grimm's Teutonic Mythology, and got to the infamous Loki-Logi identification. I wasn't expecting this part to be as funny as it was.
No, I was not expecting him to go like "Also Odin is Kári, so I guess Hoenir is Aegir... Which I'm not sure how it works at all". It should be at that point he realizes something is faulty, but for some reason he's adamant in making Loki the figure Caesar identified with Vulcan (rather than I don't know, Völundr/Wayland?). And that's when things for sure take a turn:
Since he himself realizes it makes no sense he decides to go "Loki=Prometheus=Logi=Vulcan=Grendel=Saturn=Saturday (Lauderdag)=Satan". No, he's not able to make this work either, and in fact proceeds to debunk the Grendel part. He then partially debunks the Prometheus part by somehow using all the wrong sources, yet the conclusion he reaches is somehow actually right.
By that point one would have either gotten back on their tracks, something he's actually willing to do in the future for other figures if newer sources were to be found; or just fully embrace the bullshit. Once again within the same paragraph, Grimm is actually willing to consider alternative theories and is more than welcome to discuss other sources. For example, when talking about Phol, he's adamant in connecting him to Baldr; but he knows there's the possibility Phol is an independent figure, Freyr or even Ullr, and admits he might be wrong in his prior identification and the reader should also consider the other theories and expect further sources. This is a nice thing. This shows Grimm knows he's not infallible, and that critical thought should therefore prevail.
AND YET he can't come to wrap his head about the fact Loki and Logi may not be the same, and may not be related to any of the other figures he tries to connect them to make it work. He's way too deep into this bullshit and seems to hold this theory in such high regard (even though he wasn't even the one coming with it in the first place!), he just disregards any common sense and proceeds to discuss goddesses as soon as possible.
And here I was worried my hypothetical work of fiction could be way too derivative for huh (checking my own notes) using continental and western figures and myths or playing around with figures and family trees. The moral of the story is don't feel too pressed about (supposed) accuracy regarding your fiction, because Grimm himself didn't obviously care about it either.
#norse mythology#if Grimm can make such an incredible thing then so can I do weirder#in fact I should do weirder#people reading Teutonic Mythology is an experience because you have a paragraph being like “these plants were called Fornjót's hand and#given the prevalence of a narrative in which a supernatural being and a giant usually at that has their hand sliced#it could be possible Fornjót himself might have been involved in a similar tradition“#very well structures very well presented#and then he hits you with “oh yeah Loki is Logi and Odin is Kári and Hoenir is Aegir even though I don't know how that could be possible”#it's amazing
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brodinsons AU where they are both acting the entire time the plot occurs. They both know both sides of what is happening at all times.
#brodinsons trying to plan a way to preserve both of them and it just keeps getting more and more difficult#like Loki tells Thor his arm went blue in the fight and Thor is like. oh. we SHOULD leave. and Loki is like yea u distract i'll get everyon#Thor hand Loki having a mind link of some sort idk like Loki falls and that genuinely wasn't meant to happen but then the link doesn't die#Thor knows Loki is being tortured with Thanos and Loki knows Thor is stuck on Asgard#Loki tells Thor to be Odin's favourite until the man dies and Thor convinces Loki to 'just attack Earth then'#they act out the 2012 movie#Loki goes to prison and is like ugh just leave me here \(´O`)/#and Thor is like okay fine but only until father dies. BUT THEN THE ELVES ATTACK#they get out and pretend to be at odds#Loki dies#Loki wakes and is like hey im alive im going after Odin and Thor is like i'm a LITTLE BUSY FIGHTING FOR THE UNIVERSE!!!#and Loki is like mmmmmmm doing it now#Thor finally wins and is like whew im so exhausted........... loki? you there?#and Loki is like. well yes. im here. in Asgard. you should come back! Odin is gone btw#Thor: where did he... go...#Loki: aged care home#Thor: ........................................... *cackling*#Loki: :D#Thor: got em good
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eyeshield 21 is so peak i wish american football was a real sport 💔
#eyeshield 21 is so good because it’s as ridiculous a manga as american football is a sport#yes i did learn about american football from reading the manga no i refuse to learn anything more about it#choosing to believe you really can spontaneously turn into a ghost if you play amefuto and are also very fast#those mfs will pull out plays with names like 'Odin Parade' or 'Ares Javelin' and all they do is take one step to the left.#this is a callout tag for Devil Bat Fourth Dimension.#i have gripes with the final match but overall? banger + one of the best sports manga i've read yet#hiruma is genuinely one of those characters i can say are certified crazy love that guy#sena’s 5 foot 1 ass is out here running for his life from guys tall enough to audition as skyscrapers#akaba is just so funny to me. he has everything needed to be the coolest mf alive and he actively chooses to be a loser. legend.#anyway eyeshield 21 is peak and the art is gorgeous yusuke murata is my GOAT#eyeshield 21#sena kobayakawa#kobayakawa sena#akaba hayato#hayato akaba#my art#fanart#art#digital art#doodle dump#doodle#sketch#don't repost or hiruma will hunt you down to make you join the amefuto team#that last sketch is a wip btw so watch out for that post when I finish it in 1-2 business years#i was gonna add a '(character's) a real one' tag to the end but I realised half the cast is viable for that position#the real draw of eyeshield 21 is how good the characters are#fuck agon though hate that guy#he's well written i just hate him as a person
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nothing sexier than a skilled, effortlessly lethal man
#ffxvi#barnabas tharmr#POSTING IT HERE TOO BC !!!!!!!!!!!!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYYYYY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD#I DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS SHAKING REWATCHING THIS UNTIL IT WAS OVER#THE FACT THAT CLIVE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD SECONDS IN????? IF BARNABAS HAD BEEN FIGHTING HIM SERIOUSLY???? WIHT ONE HAND ?????#SWORDSMEN I LOVE U SO#WALOEDER SWORDSMEN I LOVE U EVEN MORE#benedikta girl u were so real i would have also fucked both him and cid if given the chance#his little fucking chuckles and smirks during...........sir i am on my knees#the one specifically where he realizes that clive is protecting jill and joshua......and then immediately picks up a RANDOM SWORD#AND TUCKS HIS ARM BEHIND HIS BACK#ok its slepnir's sword so not completely random bUT ITS NOT ODINS#i would die for u i would end it all right here and now jsut say the word#i am NOT !!!!!!!! DOING WEL L!!!#I NEED HIM#his fucking thigh garters???????? the expensive ass shirt ????????///#WHO GOES INTO BATTLE LIKE THAT BARNABAS#GODDDDDDDDDDDD#I NEED HIM TO STEP ON ME RIGHT TF NOW#IS HE A LITTLE INSANE ????? YEAH BUT THATS FINE I CANT FIX HIM BUT I CAN FUCK HIM#i woul d die for him i would so fast#my king wants me to become an akashic??? say less !!! goodbye free will !!!!!!!!!!!!#barnabas tharmr my favorite cult leader <3#ok im done i htink#GRRRRRRRRRRRR BARK BARK BARK GRRRRR BAR K BARK#ok now im done
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If your Tyr isn’t bisexual or gay and also not best bros with Freyr then that is not my Tyr I’m sorry
#Tyr is so unbelievably gay for that stupid elf boy#ratatag#Tyr#Freytyr#Hes like Freyr is the best man in the Æsir meanwhile Thor Odin Baldr and Heimdallr are in the room#Out of everyone you chose the man that cries because he cant talk to a woman#do you like pathetic men or do you like him for some other reason that I am not aware of#On this topic does anyone have any freytyr headcanons id love to hear them#sere.txt
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Loki as the assassin poisoner prince who does the evil "feminine" type of murder would fix a lot of ambiguity in the Thor movies. They would both be murderers, but one would do so legally and "honorably" and the other "dishonorably" while doing Odin's dirty work under the table.
1. Why do they prefer the prince that nearly started a war over name-calling when they have no evidence of the other's involvement in plots against Asgard? Because Thor is the one that does things in the Odin-honoring way, to their knowledge!
2. Why do they trust an enemy king more than one of the princes? Because the prince is dishonorable and kills in the evil gay way and thus ranks even lower in their eyes.
3. Why is one prince so distrusted and challenged despite his position? Sif was ready to attack him as he sat in the throne. People gloss over that. It wasn't just "Loki got mad they looked at him wrong." Because they can't have someone like that corrupting the throne, so they can revile him.
4. It adds some extra fucked up context to Loki being so proud of his attempt to annihilate Jotunheim via means that don't involve Asgardian troops. He proudly proclaims it to Odin. I think this hints he has done stuff like this before but on a smaller scale at Odin's behest. How many political enemies has Loki assassinated?
5. It speaks to Loki's self-sacrificial nature in a very sinister and villainous way. Loki is being self-sacrificial but for evil! Loki is willing to be the scapegoat for the realm! Willing to stain his hands and reputation for the sake of Asgard, even if he is reviled in turn. Odin and Thor can remain being honorable as long as Loki does the dirty work. When Loki learns that it's not what Odin wanted. That he failed to be of use, he attempts suicide.
#i will make this a fandom HC#watch me#mcu!loki#thor movies#the evil gay murder v. the odin-honoring murder#mcu!odin#mcu!thor#mcu!asgard#this could also be explained by transmasc loki reads#thor and loki were odin's henchmen. they both show signs of child soldierism.#loki was used to protect thor; odin; and asgard's reputation#so odin could have a perfectly honorable warrior of a heir while advancing asgard's interests in the “dishonorable” ways#odin led loki on with the belief that in the end odin would appreciate his sacrifices and take that into account when picking the heir#loki has never had the privilege of being honorable and “honest” for a variety of reasons including this.#the god of lies was forged by odin.#i do find it bizarre how humanity has managed to gender approaches to murder and how prevalent it is#loki the poisoner assassin prince
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