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aliiiaaa-x · 2 months ago

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A Nightwing Rant because GAH!

Like I realised that the only reason Dick was able to let go of his Robin persona was because of the journey he took into making his Nightwing one.

Dick had followed in Bruce’s footsteps by creating Robin. Bruce was 25 when he returned to Gotham after vigorous training but he didn’t know how to stop the scourge that plagued Gotham and killed his parents. After an inner monologue of seeking advice from his parents, a bat appears and he chooses that as a mantle to honour them.

Same can be said for Robin. Robin consisted of a gymnastic styled costume with colours to honour the Flying Graysons and the name being based off of Robin Hood, but also the fact that his mother had coined it as a pet name for Dick.

But Nightwing? The name Nightwing came from Clark, when Dick took a trip to Metropolis on an identity search right after being fired. Clark was inspired to don the Superman cape because of a hero on his home world who fought for justice despite being an outcast and the name of said hero roughly translated to Nightwing.

The first suit? Based off of Johnny Grayson’s costume when he was a solo act. Dick had returned to Haly’s Circus and went back to performing trapeze but another performer had used the original colour so he settled for blue.

His weapons? The batarangs were of course welded based off of Batman’s original designs but the escrima sticks? Based off his Robin training, his escapade as an “assassin” in Robin: Year One and a juggler’s devil sticks.

His infamous Discowing suit? A gift from Alfred based off of the one he had made himself, but this time more snazzy, embellished and upgraded.

All pieces of people and places he loved. Nightwing is a collage of everything that means something to Dick - Haly’s Circus (home and his safe place), Bruce, his parents, Alfred, Clark.

And let’s not forget what he did after creating Nightwing - he went on a social call, making sure anyone who was anyone learnt his new name with Batgirl.

Then somewhere along the line, when he meets the new Robin, he realises that he wants the new Robin to have a better mentor than the one he had and somehow his brotherly instincts kick in. We’re talking protective behaviour, nicknames (“Little Wing” - a direct implication that Jason is acknowledged, but as another version of what Dick represents, not as Robin at that point. This was like the starting point, he was accepting Jason was his sidekick for the gauntlet. Then “Boy Wonder”. And finally he uses “Robin”, what Dick once considered “his name”, passing on the mantle), him answering Jason’s questions.

No hate to Batman, but by trying to trademark Robin and take an important piece of Dick’s identity (his childhood, his memorial for his parents) away from him was not cool, but it did play an important part in Dick discovering who he could be without Robin and Batman being a part of his identity.

#Batman #Nightwing #Robin #jason todd #dc #comics #clark kent #dick grayson #batgirl #alfred pennyworth

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hanahaki-disease · 3 months ago

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If I Can Hold Myself Together

Hell or High Water - Percy Jackson x DC crossover

Summary:

“Is…Is Percy…?” He didn’t want to speak the words aloud, frightened that the universe would put that plan into motion.

“He isn’t here, young master,” Alfred eyes couldn’t meet his. “He’s gone missing.”

That was worse than being dead, Dick thinks. At least if he was dead, then he’d be here. His name would be carved into stone beside Jason’s, his own flowers decorating the grave. But he wasn’t. He was gone. His little brother was somewhere in the world without them and he didn’t even know where, didn’t know when, didn’t know how it happened.

CW: child loss/mourning, visual hallucinations, auditory hallucinations

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The manor was quiet when he returned from his mission, and that was strange in and of itself. Two young brothers, both under the age of sixteen should have their voices echoing in down the halls. Their game system blaring sound effects or a movie flickering into the hall form the media room. And with Jason’s affinity for cooking, Dick should have been able to smell something good waft out from the kitchen at least.

“Jason? Percy?” Dick knocked on the doors to their rooms, empty and still. As if they hadn’t been home for a while. A again, weird. He knows Percy stayed with Tim next door during the summers sometimes, spending a few days over there before the two made their way to the manor.

The silence was nerve wracking. He had already spent so long traveling back in the silence of space, but that quiet and this quiet were different. Up there the silence was expected, sound didn’t travel if there was no air. When the shots of enemy ships headed their way, Dick couldn’t hear their canons go off, and only knew they got hit when the explosion shook their craft and the boom left him deaf. This silence was unnerving. Misplaced, haunted almost. As if something was clinging to the walls, to the grounds, suffocating him in an unease he didn’t have the answer to.

The cave had it’s usual sounds and noises, the chittering of the bats above head, water splashing against the rock below, the beeps and bops of the various machines Bruce used. But still no sound of his younger brothers. He half expected them to be down here, Jason taunting Percy on the mats, hearing a thud and an ‘ow’ right after. Or Percy would be organizing the medical supplies with Alfred in the med bay, asking him questions about what different instruments do while Jason helped Bruce with a case at the computer.

And yet, Bruce was the only one down here. Hands locked together in front of his mouth as he read a report, hunched over with dark circles under his eyes. He didn’t look too good. “Bruce? Where’s the kids?” He saw Bruce’s jaw tighten, a far away look in his eyes before he averted Dick’s questioning glare. “Bruce. Where are they?”

He was silent for a moment and Dick could see all the possible responses working through his head, evaluating the outcome of each one before settling on: “I think you should go.”

Dick’s eyebrows twitched in confusion but the man didn’t elaborate and he was too tired to argue. With a sigh, Dick turned away from the older man and made his way to the weapons rack. Might as well stock up whi—

He paused in front of the uniforms. Two different Batman suits on display, his own Robin uniform and an old Discowing right after, but the centered one. The one staring back at him with blood stains, dried tears, and missing pieces. Battered, broken, empty. Dick felt his heart drop in his chest the closer he got to the suit because why-why was it on display like this? Why was Jason’s suit tucked away in a case and not his locker like it should be, what happened to it?

It was by pure luck Dick looked down and saw the plaque. A Good Soldier. It read.

“Bruce, where’s Jason?” Dick stormed back to the man, pulling the chair back from the computer. “Where’s Percy, what happened.”

“It’s none of your concern,” Bruce countered. “You said as much before you left.”

“It is my concern when my little brothers are missing in their own home.” He said. “Where are they Bruce, I’m not playing your stupid mind games anymore!”

“If you were going to come in here and demand information like a petulant child, then you should have stayed up in space,” Bruce stood, eyebrows furrowed as he glared at his oldest. It was a strange sight to see Bruce in, one that reminded him of the early days after he took Dick in. When the five o’clock shadow grew a little bit too long and the purple beneath his eyes matched the bruises. And he was positive there was an empty glass of bourbon waiting by his bedside.

Bruce looked like he was grieving. Like his world was ending and he had no control over it.

Dick’s fists clenched beside him. “No! You’re going to fucking talk to me like an adult and tell me where my brothers are, because so help me god…” He inhaled, the sting of the intense cleaner Alfred uses and the stale air of the cave hit the back of his throat. “I will beat it out of you if I have to. Tell me. Where. They. Are.”

Dick knew the threat wouldn’t budge him. He knew that his worlds, his anger did absolutely nothing against the stubborn wall that was Bruce Wayne. But a small part of his hoped he would come to his senses, that he would break and tell Dick everything he’s missed and they’d figure out how to fix it. Salvage whatever was left, mend whats broken into something recognizable.

But Bruce’s glare just hardened on him, jaw tensing and his own hands curled at his sides. “I don’t have to tell you anything, nor do I have to answer to your insolence.” He said walking back to the computer, hands holding tight to the edge of the desk. “If you want answers, get them somewhere else.”

Rage simmered in his veins. Dick wanted to tug Bruce from the computer and reel his fist back, he wanted to feel the satisfying crunch of his nose snapping beneath his fist. To feel the muscle and adipose tissue bend and bruise with every punch, hit, kick, and jab. He wanted to lodge his escrima sticks into his brachial plexus, watch as Bruce crumpled to the ground. Would he tell him then, when he’s bloody and bruised on the floor? Probably not, it was easier to get answers from a brick than it was from Bruce.

It was useless to press further, years spent biting back his tongue because Dick knows that him lashing out wont solve anything. If anything it’ll feed Bruce’s own anger and it’ll end up in a big cycle of cold glares and strained, screaming voices.

“Fuck you, Bruce,” Dick spat and made his way back up to the library entrance. The ambiance of the cave fading into the unnatural silence of the manor.

It wouldn’t do him any good to stay down there any longer, have the tension flood the place till they were both drowning in it. Suffocating in their own hate and disgust. Dick sighed and ran his hands through his hair, tugging at the roots. Maybe he should go find Alfred. Have the butler who was more like a grandfather help him calm down and give him some kind of answers.

He paced the manor, finding all the rooms empty once again before walking the grounds. He found remnants of his brothers. Their cups in the drying rack on the counter in the kitchen, Percy’s shoes by the patio door with his skateboard propped against the wall, Jason’s blanket folded and his bookmark still sticking out his latest read in the library. Their place mats at the dinner table were in the same spots, their favorite snacks in the pantry, and their Nerf guns tucked in the game room corner and he wondered when the last time they had been moved. The last time they had been used.

There was a figure on the far side of the manor estate, dressed in black with their head hung low. It was hard to figure who it was at first but the closer Dick got he could tell it was Alfred. He stood in front of a grave, and at first glance Dick thought it was Martha or Thomas’s, seeing as how sometimes he would come and talk to them from time to time. But the grave before him was fresh, new, the dirt had just barely settled and the grass still hadn’t grown over it. Flowers sat either side of the headstone and the weight Dick had developed from seeing the suit in the cave dropped. It shot to the bottom of his stomach, stopping him mid step, mouth agape as he read the name engraved in stone.

“Alfred?” He called out, bile threatening to rise.

At the sound of his name, he turned around, eyes red from crying, handkerchief in hand. “Oh my dear boy, I wish you hadn’t found out this way.”

“What? No…N-No! He can’t—What—How? What happened?” Dick’s widened eyes searched Alfred’s hoping, pleading, for the answer.

“It was the Joker,” Alfred answered. Four words was all the Bruce had to say but the man couldn’t pull his own head out of his ass long enough to say it. “It was a ruse. Young master Jason had been deceived and, after an argument with master Bruce, he had left to pursue it. Master Bruce was too late, the bomb had detonated before he could save him.”

Dick sunk to his knees in front of the head stone, the dirt staining his jeans. He traced the letters with his fingers, smooth lines into pristine granite. The word ‘brother’ made his heart squeeze harder in his chest…“Percy,” He mumbled to himself. “What about Percy? Where is he?” A crestfallen look made panic rise in Dick’s chest. “No. No. No no no.”

Damp dirt soiled the palms of his hands as he stood up. Blue eyes searching the cemetery for another patch of dirt. Percy couldn’t, he just can’t. Jason shouldn’t have either. They were both kids, they were both so little. Jason was supposed to go to a basketball championship in May. Percy had a field trip to the Met right after the game. Dick was going to take them to Six Flags for their birthday, right before school started up again.

“Is…Is Percy…?” He didn’t want to speak the words aloud, frightened that the universe would put that plan into motion.

“He isn’t here, young master,” Alfred eyes couldn’t meet his. “He’s gone missing.”

“Damn, you suck at being a brother. But you already knew that, huh?”

Dick turned back to the headstone. Legs outstretched in front of him, back pressed against the stone, dressed in the suit from the cave, was the silvery image of Jason. His domino was destroyed, one half clinging to the bruised and bloody skin, the other separated by a gash that swiped clean through his left eyes. Blue-green, blackened and red stained, eyes stared at him with a smug smile on busted and bleeding lips.

“I probably would have gone to you for help, you know.” The image of Jason crossed one leg over the other. “But you were too busy brooding like B to spent time with your little brothers. Look how that turned out. Funny isn’t it?”

“He went on the trip to the Met with his class in May and he hasn’t returned,” Alfred said but Dick wasn’t paying much attention to him.

“You know they got into a big fight after I died? It was like you were home and picking a fight with the old man again.”

“Commissioner Gordon sent a search party to New York to aid them, and they found no leads on the young master.”

“Would you believe me if I told you that Bruce doesn’t really like Percy that much anymore? It’s probably because we look too much alike.”

“They were only able to find his bag in a restricted area of the museum. Mister Kent and some of the other available league members were sent as well to search undercover, but they were unable to locate the boy.”

“Do you think Percy would have gone to you if you were here? Probably. You were an ass but you still kinda cared. If you didn’t, then why do you see me now?”

“Master Richard are you alright?”

Dick could only look at Jason’s ghost, the wispy slightly see through version of his little brother. His mouth dry and the words he wants to say dying before they could even reach his mouth. What was there to say? How does one redeem themselves from this? Would this have happened had Dick had been there for them, if he put his disdain of Bruce to the side and not let it affect his view of his little brothers? Would Jason have followed the Joker to his death, would still Percy vanish into thin air? Or would they have trickled into the Titian’ tower, angry, tired, and sad after their own arguments with Bruce?

“Well, Dickface? Answer him. Don’t be rude.”

“I-I’m fine, Alfred,” Dick ran his hand through his hair, dirt be damned. “I…I gotta go.” His shoes sunk into the dirt with every step, soles leaving his tracks behind him but he couldn’t stay at the manor any longer than he had to. The silence was suffocating. It shouldn’t be suffocating. It shouldn’t even be as quiet as it is.

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What a character introduction if I do say so myself.

I will be honest, writing Dick is difficult for me so I don’t know if his character came off the correct way. Just something about him, idk.

Anyway, this is ya’lls second present since it’s Percy’s bday, hope you liked it!

Edit: I don’t know it wasn’t formatted correctly here and only realized it when I uploaded it on ao3🧍‍♀️ fixed it though

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#percy jackon and the olympians #dc comics #pjo x dc #percy jackson #dick grayson #bruce wayne #alfred pennyworth #batman fanfiction #batman #nightwing #angst #Dick is straight up not having a good time

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bluejay-the-geek · 7 months ago

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DC characters/moments as Tortured Poets Department songs/lyrics bc i have a light concussion and am very bored (in the album's chronological order)

(disclaimer before someone is triggered- some of the lyrics are taken out of context or interpreted differently than what they actually mean. this is just for fun don't come for me. also this gets pretty angsty towards the end so proceed with caution)

"I was supposed to be sent away, But they forgot to come and get me"- tim drake very obviously bc neglecting parents/boarding school

"I love you, it's ruining my life"- early harleen quinzel about joker

"My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys"- the whole song is just harley quinn idc (pre-harlivy of course)

"Now I'm down bad, cryin' at the gym"- nightwing def cried at the gym at some point

"I stopped tryna make him laugh, stopped tryna drill the safe"- dick grayson about bruce after moving out of wayne manor

"You swore that you loved me, but where were the clues? I died on the altar waitin' for the proof, You sacrificed us to the gods of your bluest days"- remember the whole selena leaving bruce at the alter thing? yeah

"I'd rather burn my whole life down, Than listen to one more second of all this bitchin' and moanin', I'll tell you something 'bout my good name, It's mine alone to disgrace"- I'm just getting red hood vibes from this no specific reason

"Now, pretty baby, I'm runnin' back home to you, Fresh out the slammer, I know who my first call will be to"- almost every gotham rouge to batman right after escaping arkham/prison. especially joker, catwoman and riddler lol

"At the park where we used to sit on children's swings, Wearing imaginary rings"- this one specific panel of tim and steph

"And this city reeks of driving myself crazy"- everyone who's ever been to gotham

"All my girls got their lace and their crimes, And your cheating husband disappeared, well, No one asks any questions here"- it's giving gotham city sirens

"Am I allowed to cry?"- maybe it's just me but i thought about clark kent discovering he had different biological parents and grieving about them even though the parents that actually raised him are alive and well

"So I leap from the gallows and I levitate down your street, Crash the party like a record scratch as I scream, "Who's afraid of little old me?", You should be" red hood's debut

"The scandal was contained, The bullet had just grazed, At all costs, keep your good name, You don't get to tell me you feel bad"- jason todd about the whole making batman choose between him and joker at the end of under the red hood

"You wouldn't last an hour in the asylum where they raised me"- this is 100% Bane bc he was born and grew up in prison for a crime he didn't even do!! also cassandra cain and damian wayne

(^this is actually the lyric that inspired this entire post lol)

"You caged me and then you called me crazy, I am what I am 'cause you trained me, So who's afraid of me? Who's afraid of little old me?"- kind of a stretch but remember that time they put jason in arkham?

I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)- again the whole song is harley about joker

"Your arson's match, your somber eyes, And I'll still see it until I die, You're the loss of my life"- bruce about jason. out of all the robins that died, jason's death hit him the hardest. even now when bruce sees red hood, he still sees that happy little kid that he lost

"I can read your mind, "She's having the time of her life", There in her glittering prime, The lights refract sequin stars off her silhouette every night, I can show you lies"- bc we all know Nightwing is always dying on the inside, and it was very true in the discowing era bc it was right after he left the manor

"'Cause I'm a real tough kid, I can handle my shit"- jason pre-bruce

"I'm so obsessed with him, but he avoids me like the plague"- ok so we got joker about batman, cupid about green arrow, hush about bruce wayne... and a bunch of others but it's too many to write lol

"And you deserve prison, but you won't get time"- fucking tarantula that bitch

"The smallest man who ever lived"- the atom! not any of the messages in the song tho ofc he's just very small

"What if I told you I'm back? The hospital was a drag, Worst sleep that I ever had, I circled you on a map ,I haven't come around in so long, But I'm coming back so strong"- joker to batman after escaping arkham again

"I haven't come around in so long, But I'm making a comeback to where I belong"- jason coming back to protect crime alley after being away from gotham for years after his resurrection

"Even if it's handcuffed, I'm leavin' here with you"- batman and catwoman<3

I Hate It Here- imagine the whole song as homeless jason todd taking shelter in the library💔

"I built a legacy that you can't undo, But when I count the scars, there's a moment of truth, That there wouldn't be this if there hadn't been you"- bruce built a legacy as batman, and created a huge family he loves, and it hurts to think about but he wouldn't have any of it if joe chill hadn't murdered his parents

"Please, I've been on my knees, Change the prophecy, Don't want money, Just someone who wants my company"- kid bruce grew up all alone in a huge mansion, but he'd give all his billions away in a heartbeat if he could change his parent's fate

"So, they killed Cassandra first 'cause she feared the worst"- ok so you might think i chose cassandra cain for this only bc of the name, BUT- cass notices things others don't (like cassandra the prophet...), bc of her skills and abilities she is feared the most (Ik the song said "she feared" not "she is feared" but idc lol). like if someone knew so much about you just by looking you'd think she's some kind of a witch too

Peter- picture this: jason had a childhood friend back at crime alley. he left to live in wayne manor and become robin, and said goodbye to his old friend, promising they'd reunite again in the future. 3 years pass and his friend reads an article about jason's death. now listen to the song and try not to cry (if someone writes that fic send me the link IMMEDIATELY this has been haunting me) here's the link to the song with lyrics bc ik you're too lazy to look it up. also jason's middle name is peter:)

"Splendidly selfish, charmingly helpless, Excellent fun 'til you get to know her"- brucie wayne vs batman

"Started with a kiss, "Oh, we must stop meeting like this" But it always ends up with a town car speeding, Out the drive one evening"- catwoman and batman of course<3 the town car is the batmobile speeding out the batcave to catch catwoman (to arrest her or make out with her? probs both)

Robin- ofc we have to go robins for robin! imo that's bruce to dick and jason's robins, and dick to damian when he was his robin. dick and jason- despite the hard times they went through that led to them becoming robins, they were still mostly happy curious kids that run around covered in mud while bruce tried (unsuccessfully) to maintain the innocence they had left. as for damian- it's more of a stretch than the other 2 bc he had no childlike innocence before robin, but dick tried his hardest to extract the child that was hidden inside the ruthless assassin the league created, finally allowing him to experience normal kid things. idk

"He said, "I'm not a donor but, I'd give you my heart if you needed it", She rolled her eyes and said, "You're a professional""-to me this is clark kent completely in love and lois with her sass

"And at last, She knew what the agony had been for"- almost every hero. they suffer, they sacrifice, they fight, and sometimes they want to give up- but at the end of the day, they save lives, so it's all worth it

and that's it folks! feel free to add more/share your insights!!

sorry for any spelling/grammer mistakes, English isn't my first language plus like the title said i had a minor head injury a few days ago and I'm tired soI'm not proofreading this bc I'm going to sleep rn goodnight to all✌️

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chungle-nugget · 8 months ago

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saw your tags on that fanart and was confused - when was Jason ever with Mullet Nightwing? in the comics he died while Dick was still wearing the original Discowing costume, is there another media where there are Robin-Jay and Mulletwing adventures?

aw man, you know what, that's an amazing question. heck if I know literally anything about the legitimate timeline (if there is such a thing); I'm working with knowledge from BTAS mostly, since that was my gateway into the batfam. because the show creators mashed Jason and Tim into One New Robin™ (for somewhat decent reasons, I don't begrudge them that choice...much) (except that I sort of do and we were ROBBED but still the show is a treasure), the Robin in BTAS that would have been the second Robin, aka Jason (even though he's literally called Tim Drake, so he's not Jason, he just has his entire backstory ughhhh ROBBED I SAY), comes into the plotline concurrently with Mullet!Wing. so yeah it's technically not Jason, but it would have been, since it's the second Robin chronologically to enter the batfam storyline. but it's really just my mind playing wibbly wobbly with their timelines and I have no idea what I'm saying half the time, these characters are just rotating in my brain 24/7 surrounded by hearts

for your viewing pleasure: THEM

#my boys #id kill for them id die for them but hell if I understand anything about their timelines #nightwing #dick grayson #robin #jason todd #tim drake #batman the animated series #I guess in my mindscape hes Jasonesque #even though its literally timmy #i dont know. it's confusing in here #a hint of a hint of jason #now i cant stop thinking about it #its meant to be jason. it SHOULD be jason. but its not.. its tim #im all scrambly

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thatstheproblemwithnapkinman · 5 months ago

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SPOILERS FOR BATMAN/SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST #28

ignoring the elephant in the room, this comic has posed a very interesting question

was nite-mite originally a robin-mite or does robin-mite move with the robins and nite-mite was brand new?

for context...

bswf #28 showed us a load of 5th dimensional imps and one of them was robin

this little guy

very cute, very robin

BUT we know dick has nite-mite later on (in nightwing 2016 #98)

shout out to my boy dyxl i love him

if dyxl had no fans im dead i love him so much i want to just hold him

ANYWAY

we know he exists but was he a robin-mite or did he spawn in as nite-mite

moreover, if dick was there when all the mites came through with jimmy, does he not remember the robin-mite, and does batman not remember??

if he was the og robin-mite, dick didn't suddenly develop an imp as he always had one and did dyxl also go through suit changes? did he have a discowing phase???

bc it also poses, if he wasn't a robin-mite, did that robin-mite move robins? did he live through all the firings and deaths? did he have to see all his heroes die and go through horrific fates? did he see dick become batman and wonder if he would break the cycle?

or did each robin get their own imp, and what happened after if they don't progress to their next identity? was steph's spoiler-mite first or has she had many imps? did jason's robin-mite get beaten by joker-mite and then blown up? IS DAMIAN'S ROBIN-MITE BAT-MITES CHILD???

i know im looking way too hard at this BUT i want to know, i need to know...

#batman/superman worlds finest #batman/superman: world's finest #batman/superman #nite-mite #nite mite #nitemite #dyxl #dick grayson #nightwing #mr mxyzptlk #bat-mite

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paladin-of-nerd-fandom65 · 1 year ago

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Got some more questions

1: what made you name Jake’s hero name skybird?

2: how come Chris superhero name is Nightwing phantom instead of something else like super wing or maybe dark wing? Feels like a mouthful to me lol

3: what’s the most embarrassing thing that has happened to them? Either together or separate.

4: what horror movies have they tried to watch?

5: just like the supersons in canon (and maybe in some ppls fanons) have they ever do some slight teasing with each other? For example: calling each other dork, nerd, buttmunch, hit like a girl, etc…

6: what’s one cartoon/movie that they watch religiously? My headcanon for Chris that it’s SpongeBob.

Well my friend @gothicghost2000 , do I have some answers alright lol

1. Well what happened was that originally I gave Jake the code name of Bluebird since his main outfit was the Discowing colors on a Robin like suit. Only thing was, after some research, I rediscovered the character of Harper Row who went by Bluebird. Hence why I went with Skybird since I felt like it was different enough moniker name from Bluebird.

2. Well the idea was essentially to split the Nightwing mantle between Chris and Dick akin to how back at the marvelous competition, the X Men and Avengers gave a tendency for different teams that operate under a similar banner to bear a subtitle in order to help distinguish them. For example, the mainline X team can be X Men Gold while either a team of newly graduated members or even a time displaced version of the original team can be X Men Blue. Or there’s the main Avengers helmed by Captain America, Iron Man and Thor while another team lead by Hawkeye at San Francisco can be the aptly named West Coast Avengers.

So when differentiating Dick and Chris with the Nightwing mantle, since the former is more well known of the two (it’s a sad fact but true), I had to give Chris a way to let audiences know he too is a Nightwing albeit of a different sort than the one they’re most used to. I would’ve tried with a color based coding for them but I don’t know if Nightwing Orange would be as appealing sounding of a name since unlike Gold or Blue, it doesn’t sound a truly stand out color. So then I applied the fact Chris was born in the Phantom Zone and that his more distinctive powers are shadow based to the name process, hence Nightwing Phantom. Plus calling him simply Phantom by itself would be ripping off a golden age hero called the Phantom. So yeah…lol

3. For Chris, it would be the time Conner washed the laundry but he accidentally shrink Chris’ clothes so much but that morning he had to rush for school. The only thing that’ll fit him in the meantime was Lois’ wedding dress. You can imagine how red his face was when walking into class in said dress.

Meanwhile, there that one time Jake attempted singing a traditional Tamaranean folk song for a talent show. His louder wailing voice combined with the speakers needless to say certainly got not just tons of broken windows but a ribbon for sixth place

4. Mainly they stick to classic Universal Mosnters and if they feel especially brave, J-Horror movies starring Onryo, especially the Ringu and Grudge films. Though the first Ttime they tried watching Ringu, they were very very nervous around unlabeled video tapes

5. Chris and Jake probably do so especially at an earlier time when their little team was still barely coming together but far more lighthearted and less harsh in comparison to that other team. It’s more common for them to call each other teasing names during video game play throughs than out in their superhero jobs

6. For Jake, it’ll be both Powerpuff Girls Classic and of course Voltron Legendary Defender. For the latter case though, he completely ignores all the shipping that goes on in the fandom and just focuses on the show itself

Now as for the both of them being of them, two shows stand out being their go to ones: Avatar: The Last Airbender and Steven Universe

#chris kent #jake grayson #starburst duo #harper row #dick grayson #connor kent #j horror #universal monsters #powerpuff girls #voltron #avatar #steven universe

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problematiquearts · 2 years ago

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the Definitive strilonde robin preferences this is all objective opinion. ive got no narratives im pushing

Dirk: would fucking love Tim Drake. I dont think tim is his first robin at all, but tim would end up being his favorite in the end. tim is ride or die for his friends, a lil unhinged, and has that 'everything is my fault forever' kind of mentality that i think dirk would relate to too hard at first and then, ultimately on going to therapy and putting the work in, would look back on with a fond kind of exasperation. But in the end, he has a soft spot for Stephanie Brown that's a mile fucking wide. You look at that girl and tell me he wouldn't project Roxy onto her. When asked his favorite robin he will say Steph', but if you ask him who he relates to it's a Tim.

Hal: Damien. Next question.

Bro: lol his fave is Azrael Jason Todd, but only post resurrection Jason ala under the red hood 'the only way everything is good is if it's under my control' behavior. This is a man who would look at batjokes and call it relationship goals. Unhinged <3 He doesn't like any of the robins when they're robin, but Damien is the one he tolerates the most as robin, if only because he knows what it's like to be a hyper competent baby with a sword that everyone says he shouldnt have and he respects the murder. Prefers the injustice timeline where he kills Dick on accident and gets abandoned by the family for it because he's a jaded old fuck who assumes that the worst will always happen forever.

Roxy: Projects deeply onto Dick Grayson. Eldest Daughter Syndrome is a bitch when youre an only child and only she and dick grayson understand. real 'you are the only bitch here who gets me' hours. The silly goofs, the look at me all the time or I'll combust discowing suit mellowing out into the one with their shit together TM? the fact that their shit is still not together and the only thing in the fridge is dubious food and a wilted head of lettuce because they were going to eat a salad but kept putting it off is also in character. yeah Dick Grayson is her poor little meow meow (and she projects a lil onto the aforementioned Stephanie Brown for obvious reasons)

Mom: Ace the Bathound! She watched Kypto the superdog growing up and she counts him as a robin because what else would he be? (in truth shes doesnt have much of an opinion. but she does think it's funny how Bro would get pissy with her for saying it. she can be a little bit of a troll. for funsies) I think she'd like Lucius Fox for human batfam members. Alfred as well, she loves a charming man.

Rose: Her favorite batfam member is Barbara or Kate, but her favorite robin is probably Duke. I think his search for his family would probably just hit her too close to home not to immediately latch onto him. Plus he's really smart, like trained to take down the riddler smart? Like refused to be a robin and is only an ex-robin by technicality smart. (and rose would love arguing both that he does and doesn't count as a robin depending on who's asking because she would think it's funny)

Rosalind (alpha mom): Huntress, but the og Huntress would be a get for her. a little bit more modern and she's saying Kate as well. Jason is her favorite Robin, but only conceptually. She hates most comics he's in and has taken to writing her own version of him that using bits of canon she likes. as is the prerogative of all comic fans eventually. All blades Jason + magical pit rage as a metaphor for ptsd is her canon

Dave: Difficult one... I think, much like Rose, he's got a favorite batfam member but his favorite robin is harder for me to pin down. Cassandra's backstory gets to him. I think he'd have a soft spot for her and Harper Row? Terry McGinnis is his favorite though. No Doubt. hes the perfect age for animated series batman beyond to be his Go To batman that all other batmen must stack up to. Sorry, bruce wayne whomst? As for robins... hm. I think he might genuinely not care? I can't say one that sticks out to me as dave bait in particular. i dont know. I could see robin jason having his own appeal to Dave. A sweet kid that's put into terrible circumstances, becoming a symbol of protection and safety to people just like him would really appeal to him. I think Jason's death would fucking gut him though and I dont wanna subject dave to that :(

Davesprite: For Sure Jason now, but he says it's Tim. Tim being replaced as Robin probably fucks with him the first time he reads the "Bruce lost in the time stream" arc.

David (alpha bro): His fave is Selena Kyle (which is dubious on how in the batfam she is depending on the writer, but she is in his heart) I know this man still watches Saturday morning cartoons on the reg, so he also latches onto Terry as soon as he see him, but... (and this is sacrilege David, I could have you burned at the stake as a witch for this) ... he considers Terry a Robin.

#inane blatherings #thats the post thank u gn 😴 💤 💓

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ao3feed-brucewayne · 1 year ago

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Haunted

by Ava_Oracle

Born with a target on her back Timothy Drake had spent her whole life pretending to be someone else, pretending to be *something* else. Lie to the Batman? Easy, her whole life has been a lie. Tim Drake is a boy, Tim Drake is human, Tim Drake only thinks of Dick Grayson as a brother. At twenty-two the lies we’re a part of who she was, they were second nature to her, easy as breathing, that is until her draconian nature manifested and she realized two very important things; 1. It’s a hell of a lot easier to hide your draconian heritage from a family of hyper-observant, paranoid detectives who have zero concept of boundaries, when you’re virtually indistinguishable from a normal human. 2. Hiding your decidedly un-brotherly (or even sisterly) feelings for someone is near impossible when they’re validated by an ancient, unbreakable, incredibly powerful soul bond.

Tim doesn’t need to be the world’s second greatest detective to know that he’s totally fucked.

Words: 829, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Series: Part 2 of DickTim Week 2023

Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types, Nightwing (Comics), DCU, DCU (Comics), Red Robin (Comics), Young Justice - All Media Types

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: F/M

Characters: Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne, Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown, Damian Wayne, Alfred Pennyworth, John Constantine, Duke Thomas, Kon-El | Conner Kent, Cassie Sandsmark, Bart Allen

Relationships: Tim Drake/Dick Grayson

Additional Tags: Dragon Tim Drake, Alternate Universe - Fantasy, DickTim Week (DCU), DickTim Week 2023, Soulmates, Shifter AU, Genderbending, Female Tim Drake, Self-Indulgent, just so self-indulgent, Angst with a Happy Ending, dick questions his sexuality, Not like it hasn’t been a question at least since his discowing days, Identity Porn, Tim Drake is a Dragon

source https://archiveofourown.org/works/48693331

#IFTTT #bruce wayne #batman #the dark knight #the cape crusader #gotham #dc universe #ao3 #ao3feed

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dick-nightwing-grayson · 3 years ago

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Dick Grayson (affectionate) has no regrets because he has never done anything wrong in his life.

I will not be taking "examples" or criticism. That is all 😌💙💅

Dick being perfect in ALL forms and never having done anything wrong throughout the years. Art by Phil Cho

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littledead-ridinghood · 2 years ago

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wait when did tom taylor make jason a cop?

So this is such a basic simple question which is why the response is going to be a nice 1.5k word long post like a normal reasonable person would do!

So Tom Taylor wrote the 2021 Nightwing Annual with Dick and Jason being all brother-y. Overall, it's pretty cute and I could totally nitpick* if I so desired but also bby robin jay and Discowing Dick as well as Adult Dick and Jason getting along, absolutely precious. Anyway, Tom Taylor didn't make Jason a cop but he still has Jason endorsing the Justice system.

He wrote Jason saying to Dick: "You were right. Sometimes seeing them get justice, Seeing their power and freedom get taken away, is better than dealing out violence." This is in relation to Jason sending one of his mom's main drug dealers to be tried.

In the context of looping, the statement isn’t 100% bad. It's supposed to loop back to Jason as a child, in the flashback scene of the annual, saying "you want to hit a kid? Hit me." in relation to a kidnapper and how dick says Jason went too far when dealing with the man.

The problem isn't Jason saying "[violence isn't always the answer]" but it's him trusting the system. Jason's foundations, even when his backstory was him as a blond circus boy, has him questioning the police and their actual motives. Jason staunchly believes that the system doesn't work. So him saying it's better seeing justice in a situation where he doesn't actually know if justice will be served properly is OOC. Jason knows that the rich can get off much easier due to money and the connections they may have. (circa lost days: that child sex trafficker that Jason murked because he found out bringing him to the authorities wouldn't do any good as the man had connections within the police that would keep him free). Jason is the kind of person who knows that vigilantes (in comics) only exist because the system does not work. One of his most major driving motivations is the fact that he understands intimately that most people do not care for victims. He gets deeply invested in cases because he knows what's it's like to be on the bottom and for the powerful above him to get of easier just because they have more power.

Jason calling Arkham a revolving door highlights his belief that no one is actually doing anything to help stop the violence in Gotham, but instead perpetuating a cycle. Fuck, in BftC, Jason criticizes Bruce for always teaming up with Jim Gordan and the police in B's search for "validation".

Jason has been heavily implied to be a victim of police brutality as a child. He has seen them do fuck things which readers can infer by Jason's first street rat appearance and how he doesn't trust cops. Furthermore, he believes the police and vigilantes should not mix because they are directly in opposition to each other. If the cops were "good" they would be trying to stop the bats because the bats are literal criminals taking action into their own hands, violently. So, even if we all understand that, for example, Gordan being on the side of the bats is morally good as he understands the system is broken and that the bats do good work, he is going against the legal system he is supposed to uphold to keep the collective safe. The legal system should not be your compass for morality as the legal system was created and always changing to, most usually, keep the powerful in power and the marginalized, marginalized. Alas, Jim still needs to uphold the law so he doesn't jeopardize having other officers following their personal morals over the law leading to what would probably lead to higher rates of police brutality. If the police partner with Batman and see Bruce being so violent towards perpetrators, and he's on their side, endorsing what they, as cops, do, that opens up the doorway to make it okay for cops to be as equally violent as the Bat towards people they take into custody. Jason is one of the vigilantes who understand this exemplified in his staunch avoidance of Cops

Future State on the other hand (which, for transparency, I never finished bc A. I'm terrible at finishing runs, whether they're ongoing (which is even harder for me then) or not, and B. It just wasn't really my cup of tea), DC had Jason undercover in the magistrate (i.e.the authoritarian police state enforcers) for Bruce....? (i heard some people say it wasn't actually Bruce but Clayface? idk. he was undercover for who he thought was Bruce) which was pretty obv he was undercover, yet, in the end, I'm pretty sure, Jason stays willingly in the magistrate to bring it down further? I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but that's where they made Jason a cop and, even if he was undercover, I couldn't bare to read it.

Literally one of my least favorite tropes: where the kid from the messy background who distrusted the system for good reason grows up and ends up joining the system. The only time I could except cop!Jason is that one fanfic where after B slits his throat so Jason joins the force and makes the bats obsolete by being the cop Park Rowians trusted while also still backgrounding as RH therefore he can be untouchable when he finally kills the Joker. I'll link it:

Best Served Cold 3k oneshot by Balrog_Roike

*This is where I'm going to nitpick for my own sense of peace. All in all, the annual isn't bad, personally, I liked it. It’s only if you think about it too much and dwell over it all. But the subtleties are where the biases are able to sneak in so this is like way to much for like 6 panels total....

Jason being mad at the kidnapper isn't bad nor do I think Jason getting so violent with someone for hitting children is OOC(actually Jason getting in between beatings for others is a very common theme of Jason's. Not just defusing, but legit just taking the beatings so someone else doesn't have to). It actually falls in line with OG Jason slamming that pimp for hitting a woman in broad daylight and him saying "How do you like being on the receiving end, for a change?!" compared to "Hit me. Go on. Hit me!" Both situations are Jason pissed the hell off that people think they can just push around others weaker than them. I just really want a modern story with a happy Jason. Like, we get it. In situations like this, Jason gets super emotionally invested, but I think DC has ingrained in the audience enough that Jason is angry over the concept of injustice. I see enough "Jason was the angry robin" takes. I just want my baby to be sweet for me!!! If every story we get of Robin Jason is him being angry, whether he's in the "right" or "not", it's just further pushing the idea that he was angry over everything all the time if that's all we see, and he wasn't.

As with most every story with Jason and the other bats, there's always that underlying theme of Jason "giving up" for the other bats and him being rewarded with being allowed to be family with the rest of them because he finally fell into Bruce and their's wishes. It's super subtle but with the "Bruce and I are proud of you for putting down the guns" and the "you were right..." Idk. it's just can be read as a ‘you're doing stuff how we want you to rather than how you want to’ superiority complex thing. It's 'i understand everything I did and thought was actually wrong, but now I see the light.' But the 'i'm proud you're doing what I want" pothole is kinda inescapable when writing Jason with the other bats

The crowbar joke goes without saying. Again, Jason never gets to properly address his murder but everyone gets to poke fun at him for it. I just wish one bat cared enough to ask Jason if he's okay rather than also beating him down about it. It comes across tackless.

When other bats call adult Jason “robin”, it rubs me wrong. Like in WFA, Jason's tracker symbol is apparently his robin symbol. It just seems like a lack of acceptance that Jason is alive again and now is the red hood. In the annual, if it’s supposed to be Dick having a minor flashback to when Jason was robin, I think that’s fair (for example: if Bruce saw Jason hurt and called him “robin” bc he was reminded of dead!Jay I wouldn’t fault him either, PTSD and memories and all that). On the flip side, if Dick is trying to get Jason to stop, the effect comes across as disrespectful to Jason's actual existence now by constantly relaying him back to what he used to be. Living in the past and all that with no ounce of respect present Jason. Some people think it's cute, all the power to them, it just rubs me wrong. I just mention this cause to me it seems like just Dick trying to get Jason to stop, but it’s unclear by Jason’s body language if he’s shocked out of the moment(it doesn’t look like he was).

Again: Those four things are pretty nitpicky in, overall, a story I liked. Especially compared to my main issue, the justice system thing. T.Taylor’s has a habit of being super performative in his social commentary(think how people think that can write a character as a man or white person and then just switch the pronouns or descriptions like that doesn't completely change the character’s outlook on life). 99% of the time he has super shallow takes that are incredibly harmful and tries to use characters as mouthpieces rather than following through on already established beliefs(i.e. Jason not trusting nor liking cops).

The annual's art is so goddamn pretty. I can't stress enough how much I love the composition and inking. We get pretty Dick and pretty Jason, we get flippy Jason, we get shirtless Jason. We get both bby and discowing as well as adult Dick and Jason getting along, have fun, smiling and laughing and cracking jokes. We get Dick trusting Jason. Their relationship doesn’t come across as fan-servicing which T.T also has a problem with so I’ve heard in the current run of Nightwing.

Ya, anyway...Big brother Dick grayson and Baby brother Jason Todd soothed my soul at least

#comictary #jason todd #jason todd meta

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