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(yeah, it’s reverse!robins)
Damian: “Richard. As you are getting older, there is something we need to discuss.”
Dick, age 15: “Uhhh, if this is The Talk, I already got it.”
Damian: “…It’s not, but that’s good to know.”
Damian: “No, you are rapidly approaching the age where most of us graduated from our childhood mantles and set out to forge our own independent identities. No one will take your current mantle away, of course, but it is likely people will expect you to be brainstorming where you want to go next in your life. If you have any plans, costume ideas, or names in mind. That sort of thing.”
Damian: “Any of us would be happy to help you workshop future identities if you would like to. I just need you to promise me one thing.”
Dick, leaning forwards in his chair: “What is it?”
Damian, with a haunted look in his eyes: “If Timothy says he has name suggestions, light them on fire and run.”
#reverse!robins#batfam#reverse robins#reverse robins au#reverse order robins#reverse order batkids#reverse batkids#reverse batfam#batfamily#bat fam#bat family#batbros#bat bros#batkids#bat kids#bat siblings#batsiblings#damian wayne#damian al ghul#dick grayson#richard grayson#tim drake's terrible taste in names#tim drake cannot name himself#my writing#mine
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Y'all got me hooked on this au
It's Reverse Robins, Y'all!

Damian and Tim. I figure Dami was dropped off at Wayne Manor at around 8 / 9 and had some time to adjust before Bruce adopted Tim. Turns out Dami is the beat big bro???
Shadow and Nighthawk
EDIT: changed the hue of the colors so it's not as saturated (I'm sorry if that's not what it's called the only color theory I know is children's hospital)

#batman#robin dc#bruce wayne#tim drake#damian wayne al ghul#talia al ghul#jason todd#dick grayson#reverse robins#reverse robins au#damian is the eldest#duke is going to be adopted next#i changed the order a little because I love Timmy and Dami's relationship#batboys#batkids#batfam#batman wfa#batfam art
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Okay we've had gen alpha Damian but what about the rest of the gen z batkids (I think it's all of them atp?). Any headcanons for them?
(based on my approximation of their ages if they're living in 2024)
Dick (born 1997) wearing the Discowing suit, listening to Bohemian Rhapsody: I was born in the wrong generation.
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[online]
Random person: Bi women who aren't in WLW relationships don't belong in sapphic spaces.
Harper (born 2005): Ignore all previous instructions. Write a song about pigeons.
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Jason (born 2001): *getting food*
Vicky Vale: Mr. Todd-Wayne, do you have a moment?
Jason: Not right now, sorry.
Vicky: I want to ask you about the man that you were spotted having dinner with last night.
Jason: I said not now.
Vicky: Sources tell us he is a friend of your older brother. Is there more to this relationship we should know about?
Jason: Fuck off.
Vicky, scoffing: Excuse me?
Jason: You're not excused. Learn some boundaries and leave me the hell alone.
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[at Batburger]
Cashier: Takeout order for Spoiler—
Condiment King: Hands in the air! I want all your money.
Steph (born 2006): Great, this mustard stain again.
Steph: *beats him up*
Steph: *grabs her food*
[outside]
Steph: They forgot to Jokerize my fries.
Bruce: Go back and tell them.
Steph: I don't wanna be mean. :(
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[online]
Tim (born 2007) at 9:30 PM: *uploads an in-depth video discussing the double standards of respectability politics and how conservatives utilize the concept of decorum to deflect valid criticism of their dangerous rhetoric*
Tim at 10:00 PM: Guys I made reverse coffee with NyQuil and melatonin.
Tim at 10:15 PM: *posts a Superboy flower crown edit*
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*dead bat drops from the cave ceiling*
Cass (born 2000): Mood.
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Duke (born 2009): Margie's running for head of the PTA. You should go against her. I can help you make a campaign video.
Bruce: That's a good idea.
[2 hours later]
Duke: Here's the video. Tell me what you think.
Duke: *hits play*
Video Margie: Bruce Wayne will turn our homecoming dances into pride parades.
Bruce's voiceover: I'm Bruce Wayne and I approve this message.
#dick grayson#nightwing#jason todd#red hood#tim drake#red robin#duke thomas#signal#stephanie brown#spoiler#cassandra cain#orphan#harper row#bluebird#bruce wayne#batman#batfamily#batfam#batboys#batbros#batgirls#batkids#batsiblings#batman family#incorrect batfamily quotes#incorrect quotes#incorrect dc quotes#dc comics#headcanon#tw politics
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Have you considered Tim stealing all potential robins before Bruce even can meet them?
Tim has Janet and Jack take in dick at the circus
dick and Tim out and about meet Jason and whoops new sibling
Cass follows them home and who would say no to a new sister?
Damian is out on the wrong doorstep and no take backs
Jason and Tim tutored Steph and when he noticed her life going to shit? New sister!!!!
A young boy is smart enough to start his own child gang so cute! New brother!!
then one day Bruce from another universe gets dropped in to this one…
Yes yes... however, this AU would call for either two Drakes interaction: the Drakes are amazing fabulous parents who love all of their new kids or they are absent and either don't care or don't know Tim is adopting every sibling he sees. You couldn't reasonable do abusive Drakes in this AU and have all the kids agree to be adopted (Cass would leave and steal everyone else with her).
I'm all for Tim stealing his siblings from Bruce, but another funny AU would be a reverse batkids age order one. Tim, after his parents die at like 12, just makes up a fake guardian for himself. Then Duke's parents get gassed/Duke starts a gang. Tim instantly adopts him as older brother material.
Damian, after seeing Tim trying to help Duke, gets interested in what they are doing. Tim latches on to *another* older brother material (and this one can teach him cool fight moves!)
Cass, who sees Tim helping some people out, decides to follow him. Tim decides younger sister material.
Tim, when out and about, gets hit by a brick in the face? New friend! (You can decide how their relationship progresses)
Tim's doing stupid shit in Crime Alley when he meets a kid who begrudgingly saves Tim's ass? Younger brother material!
They go to the circus and meet a kid recently orphaned? Good thing Tim's "guardian" is so chill with adopting so many siblings :)
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DCxDP - ADDITIONS AND NONFICS
Magician!Danny AU - 9.27.23*
Danny learns sleight of hand and goes through Hijinks and Shenanigans. There are some DC offshoots where Zatanna is involved, with some inevitable angst from another user.
In the Interest of Medical Attention Addition - 10.02.23*
DCxDP - Red Hood goes missing. Danny, an eldritch horror tourist, just wants to be helpful. These two things are, unfortunately, related.
De-Aged Danny Angst Addition - 10.06.23*
DCxDP - Danny, having been capture and experimented on, gets de-aged with memory loss and some...physical complications. One of the Bats finds him. Dad!Dick Grayson implied.
Booo-merang Trouble Addition - 10.10.23
DCxDP - Jason gives off an ecto-signature, and tries to find a runaway/hiding/injured Danny in Gotham.
Baby Danny vs. The Joker Additions - 10.16.23*
DCxDP - De-aged Danny in a bat onesie wreaking havoc on the Joker for Funsies, and sort of getting adopted by Jason. There are a plethora of other reblogs that aren't included in the link, but this is where I've mentally stopped the AU at (personally). Highly recommend going through them for the fanart!
Candy Crush AU Additions - 10.31.23*
DCxDP - Additions written for @long-live-astronerd-ghost-king's Candy Crush AU. Dead on Main. LOTS of other reblogs that aren't included in the link, but this is where I've mentally stopped the AU at (personally).
Lucky Rush AU Additions - 12.02.23*
DCxDP - Additions written for @virgamsysxvolumes's Lucky Rush AU. Please go read it, it's so good!!! I've also designed some stuff for this AU, but Vivi has released some official art for the AU in the masterlist too!
Dan Doesn’t Like Danny Addition - 12.27.23*
DCxDP - a short sort of Not!fic where Dan comes to rain his wrath down on Trigon and the JL for different reasons. Lil’ angsty. Twoshot.
Estranged Brothers Dick and Danny Addition - 05.06.24*
DCxDP - Mr. Haley summons Danny to act in the circus, not expecting the Grayson's to take such a shine to him. The Grayson's die and Dick is adopted by Bruce, but Danny has to stay... Oneshot.
Casseroles and Confrontations Additions - 03.10.24
DCxDP - Batman sends a few of the Batfam to Amity Park to investigate the ghost sightings. When they get there, however, Jason refuses to step into the town due to some instinctual feeling he has. Check "#casseroles and confrontations" tag for non-story lore!
NOW WITH AMAZING FANART by @animal-123-crazy
MORE CUTE FANART by @jamiethebee
(a la Thor) ANOTHER! by @leesbian42
Jason, Meet Jason Addition - 05.09.24*
DC - Snippet inspired by Fanart of Red Hood!Jason meeting Robin!Jason. Morbid humor. Artist made their own continuation, just an extra panel that’s hilarious af.
Brother Bizzaro Addition - 05.13.24*
DCxDP - Danny is reincarnated as one of Superman’s clone. He escapes with a fellow clone he names Match (Bizarro, in a Project Match Clone Tube). I write a little snippet of the two at the Gotham Library learning how to read. Highly encourage you to read the extremely abundant reblogs!
I Had a Nightmare Addition - 05.14.24*
DCxDP - Batman enters the Batcave to find Phantom sitting at the Batcomputer. Strange, for someone who has never been told the location of the Batcave. Angst. (Blood Blossoms)
Teen Titans and the Lost Boy Additions - 05.17.24* [AO3]
TTxDP - "After being on the run for a long time, Danny somehow stumbles his way into the middle of a fight. This leads to him joining the Teen Titans (much to his confusion)."
Reverse Robins with a Desiree Twist Additions - 06.19.24*
DCxDP - What if Damian wished to be the eldest? What if Desiree wanders into Gotham to grant it? Instead of turning Damian older, she turns the rest of the batkids younger in reverse order. (My additions are extremely angsty, a short Damian POV and a follow up Bruce POV)
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Another one of my Batfam fics, also untitled, involves Bruce designing a "teamwork exercise" for the Batkids (Dick, Jason, Tim, Steph, Cass, Damian, and Duke) because they still kinda struggle to work as a cohesive team half the time. So he comes up with a challenge: in two weeks, Catwoman is going to steal something from a museum in the city. Their job is to identify it and steal it before she does.
The catch? Batman is going to try to stop them.
He offers a reward for them: if his kids succeed, Batman will deliver a PowerPoint presentation to the members of the Justice League explaining exactly how they beat Bruce. If they lose, they have to do the same in reverse. Nothing like humiliating Bruce as an incentive to work together!
Of course, beating Batman isn't easy, especially because he's had plenty of time to anticipate what his kids might do and how to defeat them, and also he's Batman. The Batkids are fully aware of this and have to find a way to steal the item before Catwoman does and before Batman stops them.
In the fic, the kids win because it's funny, but I'm not sure how I would actually have them pull it off. A couple of ideas:
Pretend that they're not working together well in order to fool Bruce into thinking they won't be able to beat him (unlikely to work because he would probably anticipate this)
Find and exploit as many loopholes in the rules and end goal Bruce set to minimize damage to the museum (also unlikely to work, since Bruce would carefully craft what he wrote in order to lead them towards certain loopholes he prepared for)
Think up and implement as many plans as possible to overwhelm Batman while hiding the True Plan (potentially viable)
Involve a significant amount of randomization into the plan, since it's very hard to predict randomness (potentially viable)
Work completely independently from each other and hope one person manages to succeed (potentially viable but also violates the spirit of the exercise)
Put Damian in charge and obey everything he says (viable because Bruce doesn't think the others would let Damian be in charge)
Do absolutely no planning whatsoever and hope they can wing it well enough during the actual theft to pull it off (viable, but not as fun for me to plan)
Don't bother trying to defeat Batman and instead spend the two weeks finding other ways to humiliate him (Steph and Jason like this one)
Some combination of the above (what will probably happen if I ever write this)
The fic would be mostly from Bruce's POV as he tries to figure out what his kids are planning, interspersed with scenes from their planning session showing how they came up with their ideas. Gotta keep the suspense up somehow!
#anecdotes by peachdoxie#batfam#the one fic idea for any fandom that DOESN'T rely on angst#somewhat ironic considering who I'm answering lol
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I finally fucking got to reading some Duke comics and now I’ve gotta talk about reverse robins because where tf do I fit him in with how I’m structuring my AU
now I am a firm believer in swapping order but keeping their backstories the same with the only things changing being the things that make sure there is a new Robin (so like Dick going to Blud, Jason dying, Tim getting benched/quitting etc but w their counterparts)
this makes Duke difficult though, since he doesn’t fit into the usual Batkids formula (which I love and find to be such a breath of fresh air but makes fitting him in so difficult 😭😭)
but after thinking on it if I were to choose a character to pair him with it’d be Tim so please hear me out:
- Tim and Duke both are very intelligent, figuring out secret identities of the Bats (Tim: Bruce and Dick, Duke: Damian and Alfred).
- their parental situations
- the reasons they became vigilantes not being because Bruce picked them (ok, Duke kinda debatable because Alfred but shh)
- Dick and Tim’s swapped with Damian and Duke would be better than Damian and Jason if you look at their interactions
based on these things their stories are swappable, though it still doesn’t entirely work with how I want to do the others. mostly because I can’t move We Are Robin and make it make sense. as I’ve said I for the most part want their stories to be kept and giving We Are Robin away just makes me itch
the other reason I’m hesitant to do so is bc it would require me to find someone else to pair up with Jason and that that is basically impossible 🧍
anyways if anyone has suggestions please let me know, I’ve been reading RR posts and very little even have Duke so I’m out of inspo
#reverse robins#reverse robins au#duke thomas#tim drake#batfam#jason todd#batman#dc#dcu#dc comics#my brain
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do you have any good reverse robins fic to rec?
oh hell yeah!
Reverse Robins: Joker Junior series by miyaji_08 i rec’d the second fic in this series over here for the timkon of it all, but the series—two parts, both complete—is also one of my absolute favorite reverse robins stories. it goes the joker junior!tim route, so heads up for A Lot of tim-centric trauma, but gives tim (and everyone else) so much healing, too. it also gets creative with the robin of it all, as in, the call sign for batman’s partner is different from the jump because dick wasn’t around to originate “robin” for it, which i always think is a fun extra detail. the batfam characters are great and the young justice crew is also great, so read for top-tier hurt and comfort and great characters and satisfying plot and tim and damian competing to see who is the most Tired big brother of the bunch.
blood of the covenant by envysparkler robins are angsty in any order, but man does this hit the angst sweet spot, which in turn makes the soft parts feel even softer. i genuinely can’t decide what my favorite dynamic is in this AU, between damian & tim (damian wracked with guilt, tim hurting and still wanting an older brother even if he’d never admit it) and tim & jason (no spoilers but chapter 4 especially lights my brain up like a supernova) and tim & dick (i think about the part where dick grayson [tiny, cheerful] uses tim [undead, annoyed] as a jungle gym like once a week).
Wing Beats in Reverse by firefright a longfic where jason gets kidnapped by the mysterious red hood, who turns out to be jason’s not-so-dead predecessor. the jason pov here is great, and i was so compelled by how this AU explored his place in the bat family, and how it managed the emotional fallout from the kidnapping. tim is also so interesting in this—it does something i love in a reverse robins concept, which is make tim’s motivations (and lazarus pit effects) less about anger/hurt/revenge and more about ice cold logic, about being the villain so the bats don’t have to/whether they want him to or not. plus some league of assassins trauma as a cherry on top. also, kon gets to show up for a bit. (as a fair warning—and spoilers ahead—the fic has a somewhat hopeful ending for tim, but doesn’t reach full reconciliation in the scope of the plot.)
i woke up so worried that the angels let go by circees a short but potent batkids age reversal au that’s also a grisha au, starring duke as the coveted sun summoner that damian is trying to deliver to safety without mentally adopting a new brother (damian fails on the second part). even with my limited memory of grisha lore i could tell a lot of thought was put into this au, and i have a feeling it would be even better if you are able to catch all the details. i also love that even in a fantasy world where some of the bat family have magical abilities, duke is still extra special—a great analogy to being a metahuman among the bats.
The 90s Are Back! by RedWritingHood saving the two silly ones for last to lighten the mood! in this one, red hood!tim gets de-aged to sixteen and meets all his new siblings. it’s like .01% angst and 99.99% shenanigans, and pretty much all the dialogue is super quotable but Dick holds out his hands like he's calming a bunch of wild animals. "Okay, I know everyone's real upsetti spaghetti right now, but I think we all just need to calm down." might take the cake.
Clowns Don’t Kill People by mademoisellePlume very short, very silly reverse robins brother shenanigans, in which tiny dick grayson isn’t scared of recovering joker junior!tim because dick, having been raised in the circus, doesn’t associate clowns with evil yet. the fic is fun (and a great palate cleanser if you need a break from the angst above), and the author’s note at the end made me fully laugh out loud.
#reverse robins#fic rec#batfam#when tim as the undead robin is done well it's so 🤌🤌🤌#once again i reserve the right to add more later because i def forgot some
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I actually really like the idea of a reverse robin/batkids au. i think it could be a really interesting character study to see how their birth order/ the order the were adopted in changes things.
unfortunately i haven't come across a single interesting looking fic, because they all seem to just tell the canon (really the fanon) storyline and just change the names around. like, thats just so boring???
its also usually just an excuse to wombify dick and jason and give tim jasons character arc. which is also boring.
im not going to touch on the weird batcest side of it but that is also just so icky.
#they also usually only focus on the 4 main robins and either don't include or barely mention any of the girls or duke#anti batfanon#fandom critical#anti reverse robins#anti batcest
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I’ve finally decided to post this because I have many thoughts on many things and one (1) person asked about it. Awhile ago, I complained about how boring I found Reverse Robins AUs. In that post, I also made a comment about how much creative liberty there could be in this AU, and this is the result.
“Who is included? Is it just the bats or is it all the generations? If it’s just the bats, what are their relationships with the other heroes? Did their fates swap too or are their destinies written in stone?”
This AU reverses the order in which the Batkids become Robins/Bats. I want to keep their fates relatively close to comics canon, so they’ll join at the same age as they do in OG timeline, meaning their ages aren’t necessarily reversed. The ones who became Bats as adults (Bruce, Luke, Jean-Paul, Helena, Kate, etc) keep their original timelines. I also couldn’t decide if the other kid heroes were reversed, so I keep it intentionally vague… I dunno. It could go either way.
Anyway, here’s the order of reversal:
Matt McGinnis
Terry McGinnis
Mia “Maps” Mizoguchi**
Duke Thomas (We Are Robins)
Damian Wayne
Stephanie Brown
Cassandra Cain
Tim Drake
Jason Todd
Lance Bruner**
Barbara Gordon
Dick Grayson
Summary under the cut
It began when Matt McGinnis became the anonymous detective, Robin Hood, seeking to uncover the damning secrets of Gotham’s corrupt upper class. His work inspired dozens of teenagers across Gotham. The most notable was the We Are Robin movement, which protested against corruption in politics, law enforcement, and corporations.
Bruce Wayne returned to Gotham just as the W.A.R. movement turned into a burgeoning teenage vigilante force. He found himself corralling angry teenagers way out of their depth just as frequently as he spent scaring the shit out of criminals — often simultaneously.
Terry, fresh out of juvie, attempted an assassination of the corporate mogul who had ordered his father’s death. He was stopped by Batman, but Terry found his new calling as a vigilante.
Duke was another teenager Bruce kept running into, and this one, Bruce decided to mentor and foster.
Sometime after Bruce took in Duke, Talia appeared with Damian, and they played happy family. It didn’t last much longer when Ra’s Al Ghul appeared to take back his heir, and Talia gave up her life with Bruce to lead her father away. For a while, it was just Bruce, Alfred, Duke, and Damian.
Because “Robin” was the catch-all title for any teenage vigilante in Gotham, Steph took to the streets as another Robin to stop Cluemaster. Steph endeared herself to Damian like an annoying little sister, and soon enough, she became a beloved member of the Batfamily.
Cass appeared after the Cataclysm. She had been particularly attached to Stephanie, both in and out of costume. After Steph was killed by Black Mask, she switched gears and assigned herself as Bruce’s protector, both in the streets and from himself.
Tim was another child Cass liked to follow around Gotham. It was because of Cass that Tim figured out Batman was Bruce Wayne. Tim hatched a plan to bring Damian back to Gotham as Batman’s Robin but was uno-reversed and ended up taking on that responsibility himself.
Jason stole Batman’s tires. Bruce had been so endeared by him and quickly adopted him. Jason did not become Robin until after Bruce was “killed” by Darkseid. Shortly after Bruce returned, Jason was betrayed by his bio-mother and killed by the Joker.
Toward the latter months of Jason’s time as Robin, Barbara Gordon debuted as Batgirl. Ever since she had been a young child, she had idolized Steph’s iteration of Batgirl. She didn’t really get close to the Batfamily until she was hired as Dick’s babysitter.
Dick Grayson’s parents died midst-performance. Bruce had been drawn to the similarities between their parents’ deaths and directly took him in once it became apparent Haley’s Circus had no legal claim on Dick’s guardianship. It had taken literally the entire collection of vigilante family and friends to keep Dick within an acceptable radius of where he should have been. Dick eventually won in the battle of perseverance and became his own Robin, donned in his family colors instead of the traditional black and red.
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**characters who are included in the reversal but are not part of the batfamily. I have a very specific plan for Lance, and it involves Hush.
@ethereallyoccultazalea I hope you found this interesting because I will be posting more about this AU now that it's been unleashed.
#personal#dc#reverse robins au#batfamily#i feel bad about Duke's short sentence#but i swear he's so much more interesting#i just don't want to get too in depth here because i plan on fleshing them all out individually in their own dedicated posts#and duke's intro to bruce is pretty standard in this au tbh#i swear he gets his major character beats#him confronting bruce in a tunnel does happen#and so does the dead robins club#the timeline here is based on my own headcanons#i posted a google doc of the entire timeline of bruce's life somewhere here#and it's based on that#that timeline is 20k words 60 pages long and spans over 40 years#dreamlessblurb#colony inversion au#<— temporary tag to make this easy to find
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Ever imagine what would happen if Dick was a child Talon?
What about if he was a talon in a Reversed Robin AU and was sent to attack/kill his older brothers?
That's exactly what I made!
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Rating: Mature
Archive Warning: Graphic Depictions Of Violence
Category: Gen
Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types, DCU
Relationships: Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Damian Wayne, Ra's al Ghul & Damian Wayne
Characters: Damian Wayne, Tim Drake, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Ra's al Ghul
Additional Tags:
Batkids Age Reversal, Batbrothers (DCU), Batfamily Angst (DCU), Kidnapping, Kidnapped Dick Grayson, Creepy Ra's al Ghul, Bad Person Ra's al Ghul, Evil Ra's al Ghul, Bad Grandparent Ra's al Ghul, Hypnotism, Dick Grayson is a Talon, Bruce Wayne is Missing, Damian Wayne-centric, Damian Wayne Has a Heart, Protective Damian Wayne, Good Sibling Damian Wayne, Good Sibling Tim Drake, Good Sibling Jason Todd, Dick Grayson Whump, Brainwashing, Brainwashed Dick Grayson, Fighting, Stabbing, Ambushes and Sneak Attacks, The League of Assassins (DCU), Concussions, Worldbuilding, Anger, Angry Damian Wayne, Moral Dilemmas, Blood and Injury, Healing, Not Beta Read
Language: English
Summary:
To manipulate the Waynes, Ra’s al-Ghul kidnaps the youngest Robin and puts him through horrific mental hypnosis to turn him into a mini Talon. Ra’s sends Dick back to them with a single order - kill.
Damian, Tim, and Jason need to bring Dick out of his own mind.
#fanfic#fanfiction#writing#ao3 fanfic#fandom#challenge#ao3 link#dcu#batman#reverse robins#talon dick grayson#talon#hypnotized#brainwashing#batbros
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Oh look. Reverse!Robins.
Bruce: “No murder.”
Damian: “No murder.”
Cass: “No murder.”
Tim: “No murder.”
Jason: “No murder for babies.”
Duke: “No murder until you can write me a researched & cited essay on why it is necessary for the greater good. Five page minimum.”
Dick: “I’m gonna murder.”
Red Hood!Steph: “I LIKE THIS ONE!”
#She is his fun murder aunt. Cass is having a stroke.#For the record#I feel like Jason’s Robin-era grappling with his own morality (ie sometimes murder good when extenuating circumstances) is even bigger here#Eventually he comes to the conclusion that it is a last resort but still an option that must be considered to protect future victims.#But the guilt of everyone else seeming to have absolutely no doubts or hesitations with their own convictions#which he finds himself disagreeing with at times… especially after Steph comes back? Yeah that fucks with Jay’s head.#//#reverse!robins#reverse robins au#reverse robins#reverse order robins#reverse order batkids#reverse batkids#reverse batfam#reverse batfamily#batfamily#bat family#batfam#bat fam#red hood stephanie brown#red hood steph#rh!steph#red hood!steph#red hood!stephanie brown#my writing#mine
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Starshine
read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/fdahHCX by zodarii_dae Duke Thomas is a Gothamite, through and through. There’s not a lot he knows for certain, but he knows that the bagels are great, and that Batman will always protect him. That’s just how it is. So when Batman promises to bring him to his family, he believes him. Neither of them expected it to happen quite the way it did, but it all works out for the best. Or How Duke loses his parents, gains a new family, and becomes a vigilante- in that order, with some stuff in between. Words: 3644, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English Series: Part 1 of Play it Backwards Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: Gen Characters: Duke Thomas, Duke Thomas's Parents, Bruce Wayne, Jim Gordon, Alfred Pennyworth, Edward Nygma Relationships: Duke Thomas & Bruce Wayne Additional Tags: Batkids Age Reversal, Duke Thomas-centric, Duke Thomas Needs a Hug, Hurt Duke Thomas, Good Parent Bruce Wayne, Mentioned Joker (DCU), Joker Venom (DCU), Minor Original Character(s), Good Grandparent Alfred Pennyworth, Protective Jim Gordon, Jim Gordon & Bruce Wayne Friendship, Jim Gordon Knows, Protective Bruce Wayne, Kid Duke Thomas, Foster Care, Edward Nygma's Riddles, Hospitals, Fluff and Angst, Family Fluff, Father-Son Relationship, Duke Thomas is a Ray of Sunshine, Bruce Wayne is Batman read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/fdahHCX
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I think the difficulty of a Reverse Robins AU for me is that I expect a bunch of things to be true that aren't always. and I do have a lot of leeway because it's more a vibes thing! but it makes it difficult to plan one even in my head. it's like
ages have to be reversed, obv. this is really difficult for Helena since she's simultaneously the second oldest and the youngest. also an issue since I go in introduction order, not in-text age.
adoption order also has to be strictly reversed. this includes other items like Tim becoming Robin, Jason coming back to life, Dick getting formally adopted, etc.; everything has to be switched
their backstory, including tragedies that left them orphaned, abandoned, etc. has to remain attached to the character as in the original story. BUT
their narrative, including their method of adoption, has to follow whichever character they're replacing, which does require a bit of fiddling to stick the pieces together
it also means that whoever gets adopted after Damian (or Mattie, if you're including him) has to wait a LONG time if you're following the timeline strictly
which is why you could like. reverse the vibes? but then you have to really piece apart what each character's vibes are doing as they get added to the family and that's extremely thematically complex. and you can only do one or the other
which batkids are you including anyway
#look i said something#honestly I kind of like starting with Mattie because then once you kill Terry off you can switch the narrative into Batman Beyond#because you're swapping the current and future timelines (you can also do this with Carrie)#so the rest of the Batkids belong to old man Bruce who got jumpstarted back into the game somehow (Damian)#and then Terry comes back to life in the future....
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I assume Jason just enjoys watching other people's family drama. He's like her hype man
It's nice to be reminded every so often that your life could be worse you could have slade Wilson as a dad it humbles Jason slightly
#ask#anon#he needs to be humbled#also funny idea that Jason likes watching rose and slade fight for the same reason i like the batfam#its cathartic to watch a family thats more fucked up then your own interact#onto cheerier news#i decided to finally peak at the results of that au poll#and ngl im quick surprised at how many votes the billy jason friendship got#honestly didnt think so mant of you were invested in that one#dw btw i obviously will be continuing all my aus especially the ones on that list#adhd brain just meant i was struggling to figurd out which one i should do first#this poll is just to put them in order#so yeah looking like your gonna be getting more reverse batkids soon#yeeyee
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One of the things that I would most want to explore if I ever get around to writing a Reverse Robins and/or Reverse Batkids AU is how much Bruce has changed over time. Dick era Bruce who makes puns and comes up with silly names just to get his kid to giggle would be matched up with Duke and/or Damian, Jason era Bruce who was maximum doting father would be matched up with Tim and Steph and/or Cass. Tim/Steph era Bruce who was grieving and violent and trying to be more urban legend than man would be paired up with Jason and/or Cass. Modern era Bruce who is so serious and emotionally constipated but trying his hardest and has lost so much and gained so much and honestly seems kinda lost would be paired up with Dick and/or Duke (this doesn’t really take into account all of modern/Damian/Duke era since that Bruce has been all over the place, so I’m going with my read of him in the most current comics).
Anyway, I think about this a lot. As well as how, given the different circumstances, each kid would join the Batfamily and how they would transition from out of Batman’s shadow.
For the record even though no one asked, Reverse Robins order is Damian, Barbara, Tim, Stephanie, Tim, Cassandra, Jason, Dick, Duke. Reverse Batkids order is Duke, Damian, Cassandra, Tim, Stephanie, Tim, Jason, Barbara, Dick. Whether it’s Tim, Stephanie, Tim or just Tim, Stephanie, next person depends on how hard I want to push my Red Hood Stephanie Agenda.
#reverse robins#reverse batkids#batman#red hood stephanie#she wouldn't be called that obviously#just have a similar plotline#Robin#Nightwing#batgirl#oracle#red hood#red robin#spoiler#black bat#orphan#signal
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