#psychiatry bad

[naamahdarling]

So I'm reading The Body Keeps the Score and it's...mildly illuminating. I'm only part way through and have hope that it might be somewhat helpful to me personally or have even more good observations, because there really are some, and I think that once I get over my disgust and anger, I might even be able to appreciate them.

But what struck me is how this fuckin guy, who is clearly just really into helping people and wants to try to change things and has good intentions and a lot of meaningful experience, and has valuable observations, this guy who really fucking cares, still describes watching actual crimes occur in front of him without intervening, and participating in them sometimes, without acknowledging them directly as crimes or expressing more than some regret. And these crimes were committed upon patients who were already severely traumatized and were in a traumatizing setting, hence their fractious or nonresponsive behavior. Like, he's about as good and well-meaning a guy as you can find, and I see why he has been so important in his field, and still.

He did/does remarkable work, I won't lie, but it just drives home how even though most of these horrible people who taught him may be dead (good) and even though a whole lot of his peers are out of the game by now, STILL their poison lingers, because they absolutely trained a shitfuckassload of the people currently practicing, and trained most of the older people currently still in charge. Two professional generations back and they're using textbooks that are like "ehhh, incest isn't harmful to women, and might actually have psychological benefits." BITCH WHAT? Of COURSE it's fucking awful. That's like common fucking sense. To not be able to see that would require you being mindfucked into believing literally the opposite of what the most basic empathy would tell you is true. These people got their brains washed and then bathed in shit. And now we have the system we do, built by them.

No wonder psych wards are trauma farms and staff utterly ungoverned. They don't see a damn thing wrong with treating their inmates like animals. It's how it's always been done. I mean, I knew that, but still. I keep learning things that make me hate them even more than I did. At every turn they have chosen to perpetuate pain because all they can understand is the need to control these people into behaving "normally".

[weareweirdpeople]

Maybe its just me but I think its really fucked up that the only way teachers can "help" a child is with cps and the fucking police. I think its really fucked up that they're constantly talking about "tell a trusted adult" when sometimes you just don't fucking have one. Because all of them were bad options. I think its fucked up that my, and many many many children's only fucking options have been tell someone and put everything in danger or do nothing and continue on in silence. I think its fucked up that even without saying it I had to start understanding that no matter how kinda a teacher, or counselor, or school staff member was to me at times, that they would never put me over them being held liable or their job. I would never be that important. They get to pat themselves on the back while I get put in handcuffs and put treated like an example of what not to do as if im not even there. I think its really fucked up that at a certain point it will never matter how nice a teacher is, no matter how many "I know it sucks...." or "I'm sorry but it's my job..."s or "I don't want to have to do this..."s you get, because its always the same fucking thing. Your a liability, and no adult is going to risk their job with a child that they could easily just hand to someone else more 'qualified' to handle.

[thescreamcorner]

Sometimes it's really really concerning how much anti-psychiatry and anti-recovery rhetoric exists-- and for once I'm not just talking about endos, but even within the OSDDID internetsphere, especially in actively pro self dx circles. It's not to say that you can't or shouldn't work on things away from a healthcare team, but with chronic and intensely debilitating disorders it is rare, if not impossible to fully be "fine" without help.

Like. If you're experiencing dissociative amnesia or memory/identity issues in general (even when caused by things as innocuously treated online like ADHD if it's at a debilitating level), you NEED someone who isn't affected by those things in order to have a sense of grounding and heal. And it's vital for that to be someone who has a baseline understanding of how dissociative disorders work.

My caseworker calls are sometimes the only thing giving me any sense of the passage of time, and she remembers things during calls that I completely forget or dissociate through. Not even my partner can consistently provide this because of her time blindness, vs the professional who reaches out, doesn't have a disorder affecting her memory, and takes notes during our calls.

My therapy visits, as infrequent as they've been lately, are some of the only reason why we've made progress toward one of our alters no longer making contact with our abusers when she fronts, and that fight isn't over yet. My partner can't stop her from doing it-- she'll wait until they're asleep. They also don't have the resources or bandwidth to address with her why doing this is bad, and if they intervene incorrectly it increases the chance that one day I wake up in another state.

I get from firsthand experience that healthcare, especially in the US, is notoriously inaccessible, and in some places the facilities available are full of inexperienced, incompassionate tools who don't care about their patients. But instead of using that as an excuse to stop trying, instead of pushing others into not seeking care and not trusting doctors, that needs to get channeled into finding and providing resources.

Many states have government funded healthcare available for those below the poverty line. Many facilities offer payment scaling plans even without insurance. A fair amount of insurance companies that "don't cover this" will make exceptions if you go through other channels and get professional referrals. It's not easy, it's not always free, and it's not fast. For those underage, it may be awhile before you can legally access it.

But for the love of all that is sacred on this burning planet, do NOT discourage trauma survivors from trying to get psychiatric help over the potential of a bad experience or a bad doctor. You are not helping people heal and learn to love themselves. You are creating paranoia and enforcing a regressive mentality that can prevent someone from reaching out before its too late.

[verademialove]

“The greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents.”

Carl Jung (1875 - 1961)

[angelnumber27]

I dont think some people understand how truly awful and hellish withdrawals from some psych medications are.

[slowdrippingnoise]

(love this detail so much. thank you early "we're not sure what to do with New Frank yet" charles writing for the delicious treat. what did he mean by that)

thinking again about this in the context of Charles Autism Headcanon. if he's supposed to be in his early 30s during mash then he would've been 8-9 around the late 1920s. so (from some vague wiki-walking, I'm just getting into it) he could very well have been described as "autistic", more to mean "introverted/internally obsessed", depending on how you imagine he was as a kid (seems like research was just starting to come together at the time, was more common as a general descriptive term still) but "childhood schizophrenia" (still new-ish and a bit all-over-the-place) and "schizoid" would very much be on the table too.

I don't have much of a conclusion here. I like to lore-meld the circumstances into "parents who mean well but take a very hands-off approach to their kids' emotional needs pass charles off to psychiatrists for grief counseling after his little brother's death, then have to keep sending them away and getting new ones when they try to diagnose him with Disorders, because obviously their son and heir is no mental deficient! >:(" this is basically me gathering background info to play more with that scenario in my head.

[giritina]

Is it a hot take to say hard line anti-psychiatry is definitely reactionary and anti-science and bad

[communistkenobi]

idk it’s just really disheartening sometimes seeing liberals and progressives champion trans rights but justify their support by citing psychiatric and medical institutions

[geronimostiltonofficial]

god bless my history of medicine seminar bc when i took ap psych in high school it was so whig-ish in its appraisal of psychiatric history lol. very “back in the day we didnt have good ethics but now its fine :)” like NO acknowledgement about how those power structures are inherently oppressive or how historical abuses can live on in psychiatric care today.

anyways i think that psych majors should be forced to do at least a few courses on the history of psych and modern ethics bc the amount of people ive met at my hellhole of a university who uncritically parrot shit about mental illnesses that have complex histories intertwined w abuse and racism and misogyny is worrying.

[electrosquash]

god forbid people who know about their empathy issues tackle it in a methodic way instead of just flipping the switch on duhhh

[irrealisms]

samaritans won't call the cops on you if i remember correctly and i'm in the uk (source i was researching it about a month ago and on their website they said if they can determine you're an adult and aware of what you're doing they have to let you do it) (BUT take that with a grain of salt because "aware of what you're doing" is technically subjective) (but i wonder if you don't give identifying info if they would be able to call anyone on you?) (AND i didn't end up calling them so i can't vouch for if they're any good. you know. at helping. but sometimes you need to just let it out)

Thank you! Hopefully this is helpful to my UK followers

[stellarbay]

it's almost 5 am and i am contemplating applying for a regional vp of marketing position for cedar fair

[brittlebutch]

forgive any incomprehensibility but the notion that the world can be cleanly split between the two immutable categories of 'the neurotypical' and 'the neurodiverse' ignores the reality that any person can at any point for any reason be arbitrarily 'diagnosed' by a 'professional' and shuttled between categories with no regard for the notions of 'accurate traits' or 'specific symptoms'. nice dichotomy what lies outside of it? you understand me?

[oldtvandcomics]

I think I have identified one of the best things ever

Historic horror. The monsters are fictional, but the true horror is in the society. All the atrocities described really happened, the horror elements just heighten it. Queer protagonists with intersecting marginalized identities, also chosen to highlight the horror.

I want more. I need more. Does anyone know more books like these two?

[friendlessclown]

god i hate being a person with thoughts. fucking terrible

[femmefaggot]

hi

block/unfollow us if you care about "syscourse" we dont think anyones level of trauma is anyone elses business and are too blurred to know our origins for all you know and for all we are willing to share, we are an endogenic system for the love of everything and anything read the carrd. it says this.