#planet of the apes theory

[pink-writer-girl]

Is it me or this follower of Proximous looks like Rocket 🚀 X3

[bookishdaze]

I recently watched Rogue One, and the scenes of Jyn and Cassian spending their last moments with each other before their deaths made me think of Noa and Mae and now I'm an emotional mess.

Just imagine these scenes with Noa and Mae. They've done everything they could to save their people. They've given up their lives to bring the war between humans and apes to an end. As they gaze at each other, they know death is inevitable, and they see in each other's faces the life that could've been theirs, yet they hope their sacrifice for a brighter future will be enough, even if it's for a sunrise they know they'll never see.

AND HERE'S MORE PAIN.

[lvpislvzuli]

Blue—the color of harmony, wisdom, and new beginnings

[blueberry-tenya]

I think Nomae have zero self-awareness about their own crush on the other, like the idea of "Oh this feeling is love" doesn't even cross their minds. But they still act like angsty lovesick teens so everyone else around them is aware of them being down bad for the other, everyone except them suffers with the curse of this knowledge.

Noa: I wish Mae could have trusted me, I wanted her to stay with me even after all the bad things she did, I don't understand why but I want to be close to her...

Soona, Anaya, and the rest of the young apes who were trying to have a paceful dinner:

Mae: Is it normal to miss an ape that I've known for like a week? I feel so much guilt for what I did, Noa protected me and I enjoyed the time we spent together. I want to see him again.

The Tybalt and Paris bunker human characters that only asked her if she wanted to play UNO with them:

[emacitaas]

THEORY TIME!

It's been less than 24 hours since seeing movie and I have A THOUGHT.

Okay, so I love Mae's character, but she seems unlikable. And I'm not meaning to the audience, I'm talking with other characters. You see her interact with apes and a human and she seems so detached to both. Apes, we understand, but with the only human character she interacts with she still seems guarded. Sure, Trevathan did not align with her mission, but from the get go she doesn't seem to enthused that she is meeting him.

I have a theory that maybe Mae doesn't really fit in with humans. They don't let her into the bunker at the end of the movie. (Although that could be for safety reasons.) Maybe her completing this mission to help humanity is her trying to form a connection with them. Her mother is long gone and we don't really see her having any other human relationships. (Yet)

What if, in this trilogy, Mae learns she is more connected to apes than with humans? Noa and Raka are the first apes to be nice to her. Originally, she didn't want to put the Eagle Clan in danger. I truly believe she was going to help them, had the plan gone right. And she saved Soona, an ape she had just met. If she finds she cares for the apes genuinely and cares to help humans to get in their good graces, which do you think she would choose?

I hope that this story ends up being a tale if found family. Something that can answer the question if Apes and Humans can exist together.

[blogthebooklover]

Noa & Mae = Orpheus & Eurydice AND Romeo & Juliet

So, something occurred to me after rewatching Disney's Hercules for like the millionth time (weird stretch, I know, lol). I remembered this post talking about how Mae and Noa's personalities are similar to Hercules and Megara. And then I remembered these two posts from @bookishdaze:

The Woman in the Hazmat Suit

Noa & Mae as Romeo and Juliet

She pointed out how Korina (the woman) may be a leader of the underground bunker, and how her name is from Kore, and we all know what other name the former is also derived? Persephone; the Goddess of Spring and what else? Queen of the Underworld! It's interesting to think about, and I'm really curious about what Wes Ball and team are going to do with this character in the next movie, but I digress.

Which also got me to thinking about the possible story inspirations for the next two movies in Noa's trilogy: the second movie might be a loose retelling of Orpheus and Eurydice, and the third might be Romeo & Juliet (or it could be the other way around, too).

First, the myth/legend of Orpheus and Eurydice.

Orpheus was a demigod and a musician whose beautiful songs were loved by anyone who heard them, mostly by women. However, the only woman he loved was a human named Eurydice. Depending on which version it is, their wedding blessing wasn't entirely finished on the day of their marriage, which was to be ordained by Hymen, the god of marriage ceremonies. This is perceived as an omen of ill faith from the two lovers. Again, depending on which version it is, Eurydice is enjoying some time to herself, or with the Nymphs in a field; but a snake bites her ankle and she dies from its venom.

Overwhelmed with grief by the death of his wife, Orpheus decides to venture to the Underworld to bring her soul back. Since Orpheus is a demigod, it's easy for him to travel down to the realm of Hades to search for his wife. His songs tame Cerberus, the three-headed guard dog of the Underworld, and the creatures hidden in the shadows. When he comes upon the thrones of the king and queen of the Underworld, Orpheus pleads his case of returning Eurydice's soul to her body by singing a song so moving; that it even warmed the hearts of the immortal rulers. Hades and Persephone agree to let him take Eurydice back to the world above, on the condition that Orpheus does not turn around to look at her until they are both in the sunlight.

Orpheus has second thoughts about the gods tricking him that Eurydice is not behind him as they walk. Just before they reach the entrance to the world above, he turns around and manages to see his wife before she is taken back into the shadows of the Underworld. Realizing his mistake, Orpheus begs to try again, but he cannot. Once again, depending on the version, no one enters the Underworld twice while still alive.

Now the ending for Orpheus's story varies, whether he dies of a broken heart or is killed by a creature; however, in one version the Muses take his lyre and send it into the heavens becoming one of the star constellations.

Second, William Shakespeare's play of Romeo & Juliet.

The play that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, had to read in their freshmen/1st year of high/secondary school. So, a quick recap: Two young teenagers from sparring houses in Verona, Italy, they meet up at an event hosted by the other's family, decide they are in love (after three days of knowing each other) and marry in secret. However, someone from both houses end up dead; Mercutio (Montague) and Tybalt (Capulet), the latter kills the former and Romeo kills Tybalt out of grief and revenge for his friend. Friar Lawrence advises Romeo to visit Juliet before he is sent into exile. After spending the night with her, Romeo leaves. Juliet is grief stricken by the fact that Romeo is in exile, and she has no choice but to marry the man who was chosen to marry her, Paris. Friar Lawrence, once again offers advice but to Juliet this time, to take a sleeping potion that makes her seem like she’s dead.

Once Juliet awakes from the sleeping draught, she finds that Romeo has poisoned himself due to misinformation about her death. Friar Lawrence urges Juliet to come with him to a convent to be safe. However, she does not, choosing instead to stay with Romeo and since her love drank all of the poison, she takes his dagger and stabs herself in the heart. By the influence of the Prince, the two grieving families put aside their differences in memory of their only respective children.

Third, Noa and Mae, and how the previously mentioned stories could work for them.

For the second film, while Noa isn't a musician per se, he does show the abilities of an engineer (fixing a fish rack, and the cattle prod). HOWEVER, he does have to sing to Eagle Sun to get the bird to come to him. My head canon is that maybe Noa works on various different inventions while he's training to be the next Master of Birds. If Mae returns to the Eagle Clan, and sees Noa's inventions for herself, she would probably have mixed emotions at the fact of seeing an evolved ape even creating something from the remains of human technology.

Remember: Noa's and overall evolved ape intelligence TERRIFY her.

However, I think the more she spends time with the Eagle Clan apes, the more she realizes apes and humans can probably co-exist with each other.

My head canon for Mae is that it was her entire family and friends as the team that was sent out on the mission in KOTPOTA, and after Proximus Caesar's apes killed everyone, she barely escaped with her life as she says to Noa. And she had to survive alone in the wilderness before coming across Noa and the Eagle Clan village. Like Noa, she is also just a scared little kid trying to understand everything that had happened in the 200-300 years of a post-apocalyptic world. And now, she literally had/has no where else to go, no home to return to (since we all agree on that one head canon she's one of the few humans immune to whatever remains of the Simian virus), until she spends more time with Eagle Clan.

For whatever reason, Mae has to go back to the underground bunker, or maybe she's kidnapped by another human group from a different bunker; but I'm going with the former for this take. Noa can't take the fact that she has to return to the humans, seeing how humans and apes can live together, and he sets out with Anaya and Soona to get Mae back. When the trio arrive at the human bunker (the one from the end of Kingdom), Noa must plead his case to Korina to get Mae to return to Eagle Clan. That her living amongst apes is proof that both species can co-exist. Maybe even offering one of his inventions and/or an eagle egg, to the human leader as a sign of peace and hope for a future.

After Korina hears Noa's case, she agrees to let Mae return to Eagle Clan; now I imagine that instead of the sadder ending of Orpheus and Eurydice, it's the ending of the Hades and Persephone myth instead, the human leader offers only one condition to Noa: that Mae returns to the bunker when the last leaf falls and the first snows begin. Unlike apes, humans cannot survive the harsh winter weather. Both Noa and Mae agree to this term, and they continue living in the Eagle Clan village until the fall/winter. On the other hand though, I do see this working the other way around: that Noa is the one who is captured, and Mae is the one to plead her case to Korina.

And finally, the third movie. The story line we all want to see!

When Mae returns for the winter, let's assume it's been a couple of years or so by now, there is tension amongst the humans in the underground bunker. Half of them don't like this arrangement of a human living amongst the apes in the above world. The Tybalt & Paris equivalents (gonna call them Bunker!Tybalt & Bunker!Paris) in the third movie are feeling reservations about the arrangement, confessing their concerns to Korina when Mae returns. Korina (also being The Prince equilavent for the third movie) tries reassuring them that Mae staying with Noa and the apes is a test to see if the two species can live and work together. But Bunker!Tybalt and Bunker!Paris are not having it, and they arrange for a duel with Noa until Anaya (since we all agree that he's the Mercutio equivalent, poor thing) steps in for his childhood best friend.

Aaaaaaand we all know what happens next! However, let's imagine Bunker!Paris somehow leaves the scene.

Noa, enraged with grief for his best friend, kills Bunker!Tybalt but soon realizes he made a huge mistake and he decides to step down as leader and exile himself from the Eagle Clan. Because a good leader doesn't kill in revenge, no matter the reason. Meanwhile, when Mae hears the news of Bunker!Tybalt, she blames herself for the whole outcome. Korina makes the decision for Mae to stay in the bunker, for a possible upcoming war with the apes and to keep her safe. Mae doesn't want any more bloodshed, and she confides her concerns with the Nurse equivalent (again, gonna call them Bunker!Nurse; or maybe it'll be Dar as the Nurse Equivalent as well, but I digress). Bunker!Nurse feels empathy for Mae, but agrees with Korina about staying in the bunker. That Mae's skills and intelligence are needed for an upcoming war.

Mae doesn't want a war though, she soon realizes that the apes and Noa are her family as well. She sneaks out of the bunker in the cover of night and tries to find Noa.

Not entirely the same, but I do imagine a scene similar to The Lion King 2 (again, another Romeo & Juliet retelling; although, it would be hilarious if Noa & Mae broke out into song, but that's my crazy take heeheehee); when Mae and Noa reunite, away from everything and everyone trying to keep the two species apart.

Noa tries to convince Mae to run away with him, and explore the remains of this post-apocalyptic world, hoping to find more apes and humans similar to the unlikely duo. And create a new village where the two species can co-exist. Mae doesn't buy it though, she confides in Noa about returning together to prevent an upcoming war between apes and humans.

Once they return, they see it has already happened, once again taking some inspiration from The Lion King 2 here.

Bloodshed and dead bodies from both sides of the battle field. The human girl and the male ape are horrified by the war.

They both enter the sidelines of the battlefield, the apes and humans pause briefly when the ape and human are in sight. Mae and Noa each take turns pleading their case, that humans and apes can live in peace and harmony if they work together. There cannot be anymore bloodshed between them. The test of Mae (and maybe a few other humans) living amongst the Eagle Clan works, and there can be a solution between the two species.

But wait, you dear reader ask, doesn't the Shakespeare play end tragically?

Yes, the OG play is a tragedy. However, like the aforementioned Lion King 2, there are other R&J retellings with a happier ending:

Gnomeo and Juliet

Warm Bodies

Interesting how the second one is also set in a post-apocalyptic world, albeit in the zombie horror subgenre xD.

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[artzyleen]

Taken from IMDB's trivia section, really makes me think how much material they cut off from the finalised movie and how this connects with the latest post by Freya, @xplore-the-unknwn not sure if you seen this 👀

[goddamnitlopori]

ALZ-113 immunity in the world of KotPotA, a ramble

If some humans are immune to the ALZ-113, then it would stand to reason that some apes would be too. Plus, normal/speaking humans born to feral humans and feral humans born to normal humans.

After so many generations and speaking apes forgetting their roots, a regular ape as we know them might be assumed to be learning disabled. "This is our son James, he's a little slow, only knows very basic signs" *perfectly normal gorilla who irl humans today would revere as impressively intelligent*

This hypothetical gorilla has nothing wrong with him, he only stands out because everyone around him has humanlike intellect. Throw him into a typical gorilla group and he would thrive.

These genetic anomalies, human or ape, are normal for what they are, but the environment would be working against them. An immune human born to ferals would go through a tarzan situation, not really given the means to live up to their potential. And if they don't find speaking humans, they would be better off raised by speaking apes! A feral human born to normal humans would get on fine with other ferals, they're just another type of person.

Would regular apes end up forming their own groups elsewhere? Or, maybe, in the immediate years following the virus' initial spread, lack of knowledge about life in the wild would've killed them off and so they would be selected against in future generations. UNLESS: they are cared for by the speaking apes, as a vulnerable class. Given easier jobs that sort of thing. Maybe much less likely to reproduce with speaking apes, they wouldn't be as attractive. But with eachother? Maybe.

I assume some remote wild populations had never caught the virus in the first place. Making first contact with a speaking ape, a few centuries in would be a life changing experience for both of them. Especially if the speaking ape assumed that immune apes had a condition, outside the norm. But here are a whole healthy population of them, going about life as normal! Having children! Who likely just as freaked out by the speakers.

That's it that's my ramble.

[aphrmoosun]

What can we expect from the upcoming apes movies??

The success of the new Planet of the Apes movie is obvious, it far exceeds what was expected at the box office and the critics are very positive. The only thing missing is the official confirmation of the fifth installment of the saga but seeing the numbers it has done, we should trust that we are going to have apes for a while.

So we can create our own ideas of what we think will come in the future of the saga.

Noa's first film in the saga opens up endless possibilities, we can also follow the clues given during the Caesar triology. And it is obvious that the new saga is not only inspired by the original saga from the 70s but also presents stories and ideas that were made known to us in those films. It was Cornelius himself who told us the story about Caesar who at that time called Aldo. So it is unreasonable for us to expect that, as happened in the Caesar films, the main ideas that were implemented in the films of the 70s will continue.

In the films of the 2010s we were already introduced to the idea of astronauts and although I think that the second film would be too hasty to present them, I do think that they could appear at the end of this film or in a kind of post-credits for the third film of Noah. Travels in the time? World's End? Humans destroying the planet? These are arguments that I still see as feasible in the movies. If the casting team is looking for an actor to be human in the next film, it gives me to understand that he could be the villain of the second film. And not Mae as many theorize.

It is true that she was the first human that is introduced to us in the new story and that her ideals direct her to be an antagonist. I don't doubt that that could be the case, but that Mae is a gray character is clear from the final scene of the movie. At one point Mae is going to lose her way and will surely find herself against Noa, but she is a character who screams to redeem herself. Noa and Mae are going to work together in the future, as an ape and a human.

Noa and Mae are clearly the same. They follow the same path: Noa does not know what the Echos are until Raka tells him about them. And Mae? She probably hasn't met an ape before either. Ignorance is mostly what separates us from ideals. And they both take the same path of getting to know each other. But just because they understood that, doesn't mean that everyone does. We already saw Proximus Caesar in the first film, who represents an ideal contrary to what Caesar represented. And very likely in the next movie we will see the humans in the bunkers who can take two arguments. The war against the apes or the search for a cure or becoming immune to the ape virus.

That's why we can theorize about the second movie. It has already been made clear to us that Noa and Mae are the protagonists of this story, and so far we have seen a lot of Noa and very little of Mae. If we come to any conclusion with the end of the movie, it is that Noa wants to follow Caesar's ideal and the one that Raka taught him when he hands the necklace to Mae. Because Raka gives him the necklace so that Noa remembers in the worst moments what was important. And now it's time for Mae to understand it too. I know that the next movie will be difficult for her and that she will also have to make difficult decisions, and that is the reason why Noa gives her the necklace.

I would especially like to mention Tim Burton's film from the 2000s. It is the film with the worst reviews in the saga and yet I see a lot of similarity between that film and the new one from 2024. I don't think they dare as much as in that film or that have some creative freedom to do some of the things they did in that one. And I'm talking about the romance within the movie. In the 2024 movie it is not very important and presents us with relationships that go beyond that interest but the relationship between Ari and Leo in that movie has been highly criticized by the general public and that could affect any attempt at a human/ape relationship that they would like to experience. So I don't see intermediate points, either they give us a story of enemies to lovers between Noa and Mae or I don't think it is very important for the story, because if they end up putting Noa and Soona together (which I doubt) it will not be important in the plot.

I don't want to make it longer so at another time I will develop it because I think they have thrown the stone into the river of a possible relationship between Noa and Mae hoping to see the public's reaction and because I think it would be a good idea to continue developing it.

To summarize, I think that the next movie will introduce us to a human villain and it will be the first time that Noa has to face one.

Human culture and how they have been living until now is also important and the reason why Mae lives isolated and away from humans. If she is immune but can still infect humans, no one will want to get close to her unless she is immune too. How does Noa and Mae's story continue to develop? Noa's clan taking a more leading role and getting to know Anaya and Soona more deeply. etc

I'm excited to see how it continues.

[bobcat-pie]

i have finally seen Every Single Godzilla movie ever made. ask me anything

[pink-writer-girl]

Mae theories?

I've been hearing a lot of theories about Mae lately in the upcoming Kingdom of the planet of the Apes, most people agree that she doesn't seem to be a regular primitive human that's for sure. The most I've seen so far though she might either be the new Taylor so basically an astronaut, some people say she might be the first descendant of mutants. Others believe she might be one of the survivors of the human race who didn't fall victim to the mutated Simain flu, either living far far away from civilization or they might have been living in an underground bunker like in fallout. Honestly it's all very interesting especially considering the photos we saw of me wearing present day clothing, it did seem that like May did wander into Noa's village though, and no doubt Proximus Caesar did attack his village it makes me wonder if he was looking for me that's why or maybe for another reason I don't know maybe he just being a dictator, but one thing it looks like both Noa and Mae want answers. So they could be helping each other like how Taylor, Zira, and Cornelius helped each other back then, though I'm not so sure what you guys think?

[bookishdaze]

Noa and Mae as Romeo and Juliet in the Next Planet of the Apes Movie?

Here's why a potential "love story" between Mae and Noa, whether explicit or simply implied, may not be such a terrible idea.

Why? Because Shakespeare told me so, that's why.

"When in doubt, it's from Shakespeare....or the Bible." At least according to a book I had to read for high school, lol.

The biblical references in Caesar's trilogy have been pointed out multiple times already, and these movies have also been described as Shakespearean tragedies. So I thought, 'ok, what kind of Shakespearean tragedy will we have this time around?'

I'm first gonna start off with Hamlet in the Caesar trilogy. I'm also gonna mention other popular movies that are based on Shakespeare's plays. Not necessarily because it's concrete proof that this is what will happen in future POTA movies. This is me simply picking up certain storytelling beats and patterns I've noticed in some of my favorite movies.

It's not 100% the same, but there are some similarities. Also, this isn't anything new. Many have pointed this out before, but I love talking about this stuff!

The Lion King, Black Panther, and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes are loosely based on Hamlet. A king or rightful heir is killed. Usually by an evil uncle, cousin, or family member. For some reason this always results in them falling off a very high cliff.

Everyone thinks they're dead, the evil relative takes power, and everything kinda sucks. There is not enough food in the Pride Lands under Scar's rule. Killmonger burns the heart-shaped herbs. Koba leads the apes to war against the humans.

The rightful ruler spends time in exile, recovering from their wounds and trauma. They might even get a visit or have a recollection of their dead father.

Then the rightful ruler comes back from the dead, challenges the usurper, and regains their rightful place upon the throne.

Now lets take a look at their sequels.

The Lion King 2 and Wakanda Forever share some similarities. They both follow another one of Shakespeare's popular plays, Romeo and Juliet.

Like the Montagues and Capulets, we have two rival kingdoms in both movies. We got the Pridelanders and the Outsiders. We also got the Wakandans and Talokanils.

The two heirs/rulers from both kingdoms meet. They hate and don't trust each other at first, but then they start to have compassion for the other. In Kiara and Kovu's case, they fall in love. Namor and Shuri don't fall in love, but after Namor shows her his underwater kingdom and what he has to protect, she softens and begins to understand him more. (They even got the whole Hades and Persephone thing going on, who are a couple in Greek mythology, by the way).

There are losses on both sides. Kovu's brother was killed while going after Simba. One of Namor's people was killed when Shuri was rescued by Nakia, and Shuri's mother, Queen Ramonda, died after Namor's attack on Wakanda. (Starts nervously eyeing Anaya here...)

These losses make things worse, by the way.

In the end, both pairs are able to bring the fighting between their people to a stop. The Outsiders are welcomed into Simba's pride. The Wakandans and Talokanils stop fighting after seeing their leaders return together.

In the end, they realize that they're the same. That they can't let hate and fear of the other side cloud their judgement.

Kiara tells her father, "A wise king once told me we are one....Look at them. They are us. What differences do you see?"

Shuri tells Namor while she spares his life, "Vengeance has consumed us. We cannot let it consume our people."

And I think this goes well with one of the core themes of these POTA movies. The apes are a mirror to humanity. We the audience are seeing us through them, and the characters in the movies themselves must come to the realization that they're the same.

Like when Caesar tells his son, "I always think ape better than human. I see now how much like them we are."

Maybe something similar like this will happen with Noa and Mae and whatever fight will happen between apes and humans. While I'm all for a good romance, it may end up being more like Namor and Shuri's case. There's something there. The tropes are present, but they don't fall in love. (At least not yet. Please Ryan Coogler, give me Nashuri endgame in Black Panther 3, hehe).

This is just a theory, by the way. This doesn't have to happen, but I just think it'd be neat. There would be differences though. What those differences would be, idk, but whatever happens in the next one, I can't wait!

"But but.... aren't you forgetting something?"

What's that?

"Don't they...ya know...both die at the end?"

Besides, they don't have to die. Things can be a little more hopeful for our two heroes 🙈

[captainimfangirling]

Many forget the humans will eventually be put in cages and be treated like slaves (I guess they think it would be ok since humans had slaves too). My theory is that Mae sees what's coming in the future for humans and that's what she's trying to stop (what's wrong with that?!). Caesar realized that too. In the 2nd movie he basically said apes are no better than humans. Did many forget that?! The drug that started it all was created by humans but had good intentions but sadly there were greedy humans. Would you blame the humans who had good intentions and say they brought it on themselves so they deserve it?! Like Will?

I just feel like in all movies these days it's always us vs them. Like people are not intelligent enough to see both sides in movies/tv shows and try to understand. They just pick one side and to hell with the others. Even though Proximus Caesar was a horrible ape leader I can see why he did the things he did. He's just scared apes who doesn't want apes back in cages and go back to their original ape instinct (basically what the humans are now).

I also noticed that many are questioning how Noa's clan doesn't know about Caesar. I have a theory when he died the apes in charge changed his teachings and ideas. So the apes who weren't born when Caesar was around decided to leave thinking Caeser was a horrible ape and created their own clan where they never spoke of Caeser ever again. The ones who like Raka left earlier than Noa's clan because they knew the ones in charge did change Caesar's teachings and tried to keep it alive. Yes orangutans are naturally solitary animals but in this series ALL apes are not the same they once were obviously.

Sorry for the rant but I had a conversation with someone who said humans deserve to be slaves, they started the virus so they deserve it, etc and I know it's a movie but still that's just disgusting to me.

[blueberry-tenya]

When the next movie comes out and Mae gets a crew of immune humans that talk like the characters from smiling friends/They come across the eagle clan and one of them starts acting aggressive around Noa

[emacitaas]

Oh...

Wouldn't it be so messed up if Mae's mom was one of the primitive humans and the humans she's helping tried to produce more children who could talk? So they try to cross breed the smart humans with the primitive humans and Mae is born. And thats why she says her mother taught her silence and why she had such a visceral reaction to seeing the hord of primitive humans. Wouldn't that be messed up?

[blogthebooklover]

*putting on my tinfoil hat for a sec*

Okay, so this has been on my mind for a while. Since the reboot Planet of the Apes trilogy has, arguably the best version, of Caesar

Who is loosely based on the OG franchise's version, and a bit of Julius Caesar.

And reboot Caesar eventually has a son named Cornelius

Who's named not only after his mother, but both characters are named after one of the OG franchise's favorite apes from the 1968 film.

If the sequel to Kingdom jumps ahead a few years like Dawn, Noa and Soona might have children.

Aaaand if they have a daughter, I think I have an idea of who she will be named after from the OG franchise!!!!

ZIRA!!!

AND IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE! Because of Noa's newfound interest in science (fixing the cattle prod) and space (the observatory).

I know Zira in the OG films is an animal psychologist, I think it'll be kind of neat if reboot Zira had an interest in space!