#people act like not voting means nobody gets elected

[boneswizard]

I hate having to block people because they post anti-voting rhetoric :/

[azlia-iconoclast]

All that is confirmed will be modified:

the abortion ban that already exist to state level and killed teens on texas because they got denied even in a SA situationa will now be nationwide

ending any chance to integrate minorities and just letting the hate and discrimination run rampant again without institutions to keep watch

allowing states to ban diverse number of Healthcare treatments and medications which go from gender hormones to the morning after pills

tariffs are gonna have backlash and cause countertarrifs ending many of our trade deals and evaluating the dollars

the billionares that backed trump like the ultraconservative Timothy mellon, the heritage foundation with the hyper religious agaenda or elon musk that is obsessed with hating public transport and trans people are going to have free reign to do as they please.

the ending of several institution and more privatization which includes less education subsidies for poor families, help for disabled people, subsidies for Healthcare, the weather system and report, the department of education shrinking and allowing old religious policies, the watch for the compliance of the civil rights act is going to disappear , the department of health is also going to shirk, the watch for compliance for climate change is going to disappear the DEI, EPA, and the ACA will be erased with many more, just to name the ones that are going to affect directly the most

as consequence of the mentioned institutions disappearing hate speech will basically be legal again affecting the culture and the amount of religious propaganda, discrimination while hiring and helping disable people get a job will be legally impossible

completing the genocide in gaza and continuing funding Israel expansion into Lebanon not to mention he's dividing Ukraine in 2 with a neutral zone which will cause a second bigger war because nobody is going to be conformed with that.

the peace attempts that were happening with china over Taiwan and Hong kong are now going to be closed leaving war as only option for the long future

The SCOTUS will now have 5 of 9 Supreme Court LIFETIME seats filled by Trump and the damage will be generational given the justices are young for the lifelong position and all 5 are part of the Christian nationals. Any attempt to undo what trump is going to damage with his policies will be blocked by their majority specially the medical bans and the freedom corporations will now have, so not only our full generation will suffer trump legacy but your kids and their kids

when trump took the confidential documents boxes to mar a lago when he lost last election it made him look to NATO and the 5 eyes intelligence institution (fuck them both hypocrite imperialists) complain for the security risk which means the allies will not want to share intel with the us now that he's back forcing America to have the old interventionist spionage role to get it's own, which will increase world tensions.

whether people voted for trump to punish dems not fulfilling their promises or being part of such mentioned genocides, because they hate the lgbtq and DEI or they really want to go back to the dark ages culturally and socially with christian nationalism ideology, all of them just shot themselves and everyone kids future.

Adieu à jamais Amérique, je croyais que tu changeais mais ceci est ton cœur et ton vrai visage, je pensais vivre ici plus d'un siècle et t'aider à te transformer, mais il est clair que tu choisis la Cruauté. J'ai de toute façon un dernier coup à tirer, si cela se brise au moins je mourrai enfin avant que tu ne commences ton interventionnisme mondial comme dans les années 50 encore.

[akiizayoi4869]

Maybe Harris wouldn't like to hear this considering her pledge to be the president for all american people, but honestly a good chunk of Americans don't deserve her. They don't deserve better. Trump's presidency and all the shit it'll inevitably entail is what they deserve.

Normally I wouldn't like to hear this either because I'm just not that kind of person, but I really cannot bring myself to care at this point. I wholeheartedly agree with you, anon. I'll give them 2016, because nobody was really taking him seriously and we didn't know how bad things would get. I mean really, the man was even worse than BUSH, something that I never thought that I would say. I'll even give them 2020, because a lot of the shit that happened after that election obviously hadn't happened yet. But now? After seeing and hearing everything that's come out about him? The documents? Being convicted of 34 freaking felonies? January 6th? Some people are ignorant enough to belive that all of this are lies, but there's also a large portion of people who voted for him that know all of these things are true, that know that his claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him were false, who cannot stand him, who agree with the people who call him a fascist, a wannabe dictator, and America's Hitler. And yet they still voted for him. They know that his outlandish claims of transgender surgeries in prisons, his claims that Haitian immigrants were eating people's pets, and doctors doing after birth abortions were all false. They can't stand his rhetoric. And yet they still voted for him. Because they foolishly believe that he'll make the economy better, even though the economy is actually fine. Much better than what it was four years ago when Trump was still the president. But people don't feel that way because of the prices of groceries, gas, etc. Also because the misinformation from the right wing media has gotten so bad to the point where it's overtaken the truth. Because they foolishly believe that everything he said wouldn't happen to them. Clearly they believe it now since a lot of people have been searching "what are tarrifs?" and "can I change my vote?" since he won the election. At this point though, I really don't care about these people, because they choose to be willfully ignorant. What I do care about? Is that the rest of us have to suffer because of their stupidity.

My mother, for example, is on a bunch of medication because she had a brain aneurysm and a stroke back in 2006. Which then resulted in her having seizures, something that thankfully hasn't happened to her since 2010. You know how she's able to afford all of those medications? Because of health insurance. The affordable care act. And now Donald Trump and the Republicans are threatening to take that away, and they might just be able to succeed because they have control of the government now! And to make matters worse, the majority of the Republican party is now his cult following, so obviously they're not going to stop him and will go along with whatever he wants to do.

I'm also on seizure medication. I had one back in 2018, and unfortunately I had one again this year, back in April. I'm able to afford the medication that I need because we have health insurance. If that gets taken away? The cost of that medicine is going to go sky high, just like seeing a doctor or going to the hospital is going to cost an arm and a leg if health care AND social security gets taken away. All because these dumbfucks voted him back in for a second term. So yeah, I don't feel sorry for these people at all. Like you said, they are going to get exactly what they voted for and deserve the moment this man is sworn in once again.

[kiloueka]

Okay, I still have not heard one convincing argument that not voting does more good than voting for the lesser of two evils.

Like, I'm genuinely asking this and am not trying to be petty or smug or whatever.

I'm talking about the simple act of voting; not donating to campaign funds, not harassing people who are rightfully angry at genocide Joe/Kamala, not wasting time trying to get people to vote but not doing any other activism, not blaming nonvoters solely for xyz candidate losing when there's multiple factors that contributed to their loss.

I mean the simple act of spending a few hours every 2 years filling in some bubbles to try to slow our descent into fascism.

Like, I get that many libs think voting is the end-all-be-all of activism and that Kamala is our savior or something. I get the argument that dems aren't going to move left if people continue voting for them without question/pushing. I get how the dems are basically dangling our basic rights in front of us to get our votes. And I get that the dems are still fucking terrible and the end goal is to tear it all down and start over.

But I don't get how risking letting someone worse win to threaten/punish them is a valid strategy. Like, it seems too high-stakes to me.

I don't get how the argument is any different than, say, "protesting/rioting is shit because it's destructive and disrupts people' lives".

I don't get how it's better than just pushing people to do more on top of voting.

Like "here are the shitty things Kamala is doing and here's what to do about them". Or "Here's the few bubbles to fill to reduce the number of orphans going into the orphan crushing machine and here's the plan to destroy the machine after you turn in your ballot."

Being against voting all feels very "You claim to want things to improve yet you participate in society. I am very intelligent." I would very much not have to beg for my rights every election and instead burn the whole thing down and guillotine all the politicians but unfortunately my body is falling apart and my brain is shit so voting is one of the few things accessible to me.

I don't get how voting for a candidate that will protect (some of) your rights while trying to kill other groups is selfish when the only other option is trying to kill you AND them. How would the less at-risk groups help fight for the rights of the more at-risk groups if they're too busy also being killed if Trump wins? How would me risking my rights by not voting do any sort of material good for Palestinians facing genocide or kids in cages?

It seems like the arguments all seem to boil down to "pulling the trolley lever is icky because people will still die so I'll let someone else choose" or "there are two genders: voting or REAL activism (you can only pick one)" or "5000 bad things is exactly the same as 3000 bad things" or "if enough people don't vote then nobody will win the election"

I'm just trying to do what good I can do because I can't do much.

[qqueenofhades]

Do political parties have any better alternative to asking us to vote or donate than by constantly spamming our text messages with panic messages and doom and gloom? Because I feel like there’s a better way to do this instead of just annoying people for endless supplies of cash.

This is why my number one rule is that I never give my phone number to any political campaign or candidate, ever, no matter how much I like them. For one thing, I promise that I don't need to be reminded either to vote or donate. I vote every time in every election, and on the rare occasions I have money to spare, will donate to presidential, Senate, House, and DSCC races, to Act Blue, or to Democratic candidates running against particularly loathsome Republicans elsewhere in the country. This means that I get a shit ton of emails from candidates I have never heard of before, and I WILL instantly unsubscribe. Watch me.

But for all that? Never give my phone number to any of these and never will. Or I will likewise get spammed by those exact INSTANT DOOM AND GLOOM text messages, because apparently Democratic campaign strategists all read the same book on how YOU SHOULD MAKE VOTERS VERY AFRAID ABOUT NEW POLL #34629583. Okay, I get it. Someone gets scared, they will indeed Rush a Donation Before Midnight. But Jesus Christ, a little teeny tiny variant in messaging and/or constant manufactured terror would be nice. We know about it already. Fucking trust us. Nobody can forget about the Horror. So yeah.

[nokingsonlyfooles]

“It’s my hope, Mr. President, that you listen to us, that you choose democracy over tyranny.” - Abdullah Hammoud, Dearborn Mayor and Voter

YES! I can't fuckin' believe the media accurately reported this as a protest and printed/publicized the words of the voters explaining why they did it. AND NOBODY HAD TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE! This is big and it could get even bigger! But it's a qualified bigness, because...

Walz, a major supporter of Biden’s reelection campaign, said Michigan’s “uncommitted” results were a healthy demonstration of democracy. “I think they feel passionate, as they should, about an issue we all care about,” Walz said, adding that he expected most protest voters would eventually return to Biden’s side in a likely November rematch with former President Donald Trump, who himself has struggled with college-educated voters and suburbanites in his ongoing Republican primary against former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. “I’m much more convinced there’s a chance bringing those folks home is much greater than bringing the ‘Never Trump’ folks back home,” Walz said.

Yeah. I know this song and dance. I've seen it happen in person, at protests, in reatime. They come out to "do voter outreach" and they're all smiles to start. "Yes! Please do continue to act upon your freedom of speech in a way I, an advocate for the status quo, find nonthreatening. Your feelings are valid, ha-ha! I expect nothing to change, and indeed I will act to change nothing, but good for you!" A few folks always believe the message has been received and quiet down, that's why they do it. But wait and see what happens to that smile when a few people start interrupting and yelling, "THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH!"

At least this guy's willing to suggest Biden would pick up more votes by moving left than moving right, although I doubt he actually expects anything radical. A few more forgiven student loans or somewhat cheaper drugs aren't much of a problem, and that's leftist too! So we don't really have to worry about the ongoing genocide.

The thing is, if/when this picks up momentum and the DNC starts to think they might have to change something or lose, it will become something other than a positive demonstration of free speech. It'll be childish tantrum-throwing, pointless, uncivil, attention-whoring, astroturfed, counterproductive foreign interference, and whatever else sounds bad. If any of you out there in internet-land already feel threatened by it, you're probably saying that right now. (Go ahead and comment, you'll boost this with other people who think like you, and I might change some minds.)

And, if you are comfortable with it and want voters to do it instead of threatening to withhold votes from Biden in the general, check your privilege. Not every state offers this. Unless something changes real fast (at least, I THINK it hasn't changed, it's hard to do a search when "uncommitted" brings up SO MANY news articles about Michigan 😁), mine won't. I can't do this. I can't vote in a third party primary either. It'd be all blue or nothing. And neither of those things will get me any press, so I gotta keep talking. Maybe I'll motivate someone who can vote uncommitted! Or scare a politician! I still think I'm doing more good by staying alive, and I'm a bit distant from any property I might meaningfully damage (although I am open to suggestions that won't get me arrested and silenced), so this is the only thing I got that won't injure a human being.

Tumblr, no matter how you actually intend to vote, if you're not up for living in a two-party system where both parties think they can do a little genocide and stay in power, you have ways of making yourself heard. There are options beyond falling in line behind the lesser evil. Don't let anyone tell you there aren't. And when you start hearing "stop!" or "you can't!" that means you have something they want. A cessation of hostilities! Well, now you might be in a position to negotiate terms! Don't give up!

Please, please, please don't give up. There is so much to be done.

[kckramer]

Some US political complaining- feel free to ignore

It’s like the more I become engaged with the US progressive/leftist movement, the more I see that so many people just don’t know how politics works.

Why hasn’t UN/US/EU stopped Israel? For the same reason they haven’t stopped Russia- short of an invasion and setting up a new government, they can’t. Nations don’t answer to any higher entity. UN is a conflict resolution organization between established nation-states. It’s “power” is entirely dependent on countries wanting to abide by it. The UN isn’t some international cop who can force countries to do what it wants- and certainly not countries with highly advanced economies and nuclear weapons. The most the UN can do is use economic sanctions and international aid as leverage- but those really don’t work on countries with self-sufficient economies. And nobody wants to invade a country with an ambiguously sized nuclear arsenal (like Israel’s) because it’s a terrible idea.

And the single-issue voter thing is every bit as concerning as the most radical anti-choice activists I grew up around. This is how the GOP has managed to generate and maintain such high support and turnout to help achieve their other goals and now the evangelicals are eating out of their hand. But in the progressive/leftist sphere, it’s being used to stop people from voting, or to vote third party.

And the third party thing is another wild thing to see. Like, do people genuinely think they can get 40+ million people to vote for Dr. Stein when the vast majority of America has never heard of her? The internet, especially Tumblr and anything with an algorithm, is an echo chamber, certainly, but do so many people in the progressive/leftist movement not realize they’re a tiny percentage of the national voter base?? Dr. Stein’s highest voter score was 20%- and that was a local election. She’s never gotten more than 1% in a national election. Self identified Liberals are only 25% of the voter base, and of those, progressives are an even smaller portion.

Like. Maybe 2 people in 10 are progressive. That’s it. As a political minority, we need to be realistic here. We need to know how the system works, what the rest of our allies think, and act accordingly. We’re not going to win an election by ourselves. Period. That’s not an if/maybe- that’s math. But we can definitely lose an election. And that’s what happened in 2016.

Democracy is about compromise and progress happens slowly and gradually. I don’t know why that’s so hard for people to comprehend- and being in a minority means having to make the compromises to get the majority onboard. Sure, it’s annoying, and frustrating, but that’s how things work. We can talk all we want about changing the system, but that’s going to take just as long to accomplish. And no, “the revolution” is not an option. But Bangladesh! Bangladesh has a parliament, not a bicameral congress and a separate presidency. It’s far easier to bring down a parliamentary government without destroying the entire political infrastructure.

[thessalian]

Thess vs Political Media Spin

Thinking about the French election (CONGRATULATIONS, FRANCE) and realising that it's probably finally time to discuss a thing about the UK elections that nobody in the media wants to talk about. Because they mostly want to talk about Reform's 4.1m votes and 5 Parliament seats. Which is ... okay, not entirely fair, but understandable given that an awful lot of news media is written for "engagement" and is thus generally ragebait. However, there are two things that those of us in the UK really, really need to keep in mind:

We had an atrociously low voter turn-out this year, probably because so many of us were depressed and beaten over how the two main parties are behaving right now.

The Greens came in second for votes in forty constituencies. One of them was mine. (That latter shouldn't surprise me because this whole borough has been a very safe Labour seat for awhile and isn't it funny how this place started leaning towards the Greens when that Tory-with-a-red-tie Starmer was leading the party? Almost as if all those "safe Labour votes" are just very lefty votes looking for a place to break out?)

Now, point 2 couldn't work in the US. You guys have a two-party system, just because of how your voting works. While you guys get Electoral College votes for That One Guy, we get actual seats - actual voices - in the House of Commons. And honestly, Labour would have still had its landslide even without the forty seats the Greens could have won if a few more people had actually come out. But even the Americans can take a message away from this, and the message is: "refusal to vote is very liable to cripple any chance things have of getting better".

For the US - if you don't vote Democrat, and Trump gets in again, he's going to destroy your country. The question becomes who you'd rather have stacking the Supreme Court, and who you'd like to hand the loaded gun that is the current Supreme Court's decision to give Presidents immunity from prosecution in the course of "official acts", particularly when the full and detailed definition of "official acts" has yet to be determined. Do not assume he'll never win - my mother assumed that in 2016, because apparently she has not as yet plumbed the depths of human stupidity the way only those of us whose brains are trash and who live on the internet can. Do not assume that Biden will get enough votes without you protest-voting for a third party. If you want some examples of how that thinking works out, consider Brexit, and how many people who actually voted for it and then said, "Well, I mean, I didn't think we'd actually leave; I just wanted to protest it a little!" immediately afterwards.

For those of us in the UK, though? I know a lot of people didn't come out and vote and I understand why. But look what could have happened if you had. Imagine forty-four seats for the Greens, instead of just four, and those forty-four voices speaking and voting for us in the Commons. Imagine if the Greens had got the kind of votes Reform did. The media could not have ignored that the way they ignore the Greens' four seats.

Media spin basically crushed those of us who want better into not voting at all. I don't know if this country will get better under Labour, but I doubt it, and I mourn the chance we had. I am so thrilled that France has at least shown that left-wing politics aren't entirely dead. I can't save my own country beyond my one vote (the Greens this year, and I'm happy to have contributed to an actual left-wing party getting the second-most votes in my constituency, thanks), but I can give warnings. To the UK ... I know Starmer's a dickweed, but we can get a louder voice in Commons if we don't just give up on the entire electoral process. To the US ... I get that Biden is ... honestly, he is better than Starmer; it's just that "slow and steady wins the race" policies don't make headlines anymore. Just ... do you want God-Emperor Trump? Not voting in the US is how you get God-Emperor Trump.

[cryoverkiltmilk]

i sometimes hesitate to reblog, let alone thread-rez, my own posts, but I want people to understand that this was not just an issue that popped up and then got shouted down *checks timestamp* 1 year and 10 months ago.

F*ndom still has a terribly nebulous policy of control over content, and even though MGE found a new wiki home (MOVE YOUR WIKIS TO MIRAHEZE, PEOPLE), sexual content online still has the Sword of Conservative Damocles hanging over it. This goes double and even moreso for anything trans or queer-adjacent.

The Kids Online Safety Act is still steamrollering around the Senate and has not been derailed yet. The open-ended language in this bill threatens to label any inclusive content as 'grooming' and 'harassment'. It won't matter if accusations are true or not, it will matter that smaller sites won't have the resources to fight those accusations in the legislative process, and that larger sites will buckle because they don't want the bad publicity or their ad revenue threatened.

And that trainwreck absolutely PALES in comparison to the 2025 Project.

Remember the comedy of destructive errors that was the first year of the Tr*mp four year poison? When staff placements couldn't be filled, and others couldn't get confirmed, all because nobody actually doing the work expected the screaming spray-tan clot to make it into the halls of power?

Yeah, they've got their shit together if he wins again.

They are prepared to start dealing damage from Day 1 this time.

The goal is to avoid the pitfalls of Trump’s first years in office, when the Republican president’s team was ill-prepared, his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance — by lawmakers, government workers and even Trump’s own appointees who refused to bend or break protocol, or in some cases violate laws, to achieve his goals.

P25 is an organized and motivated effort by the far right to lock their power in even further, up to and including a shift of federal workers to AT WILL EMPLOYMENT wherever possible.

The clown car of fascists and racists leading the Republican primaries have, almost without exception, picked up the toxic ball that Trump brought in and ran with it. DeSantis is the most visible successor to this, even as he's at war with T*ump, but he's just one plague carrier among many.

Biden won in 2020, but not nearly by enough. The midterms were facing the usual gerrymandered hurdles, but at least continued to stop the bleeding and reduce harm. It is VITALLY IMPORTANT to contact your officials on issues like KOSA and to get out the vote again.

There is no point at which we get to 'take it easy' on an election. Anyone telling you voting doesn't matter is a class traitor at best, and a plant at worst.

They are well past coming for kinksters or monster-enjoyers, they are coming for everyone that is not them, and they very much mean to erase.

Don't laugh at this because "Oh those silly monster f*ckers." This is a giant freaking RED FLAG just like with Only Fans.

[gameshowtrainwreck]

I wish I could say I will be glad when the election is over. I mean, I feel that I am fucked seven ways to Sunday no matter who wins, as a lifetime of experience and paying attention to politics has left me feeling like nothing is going to change in my lifetime.

People are still going to get killed so some other people in New York can get cheap real estate in gaza (I hear there are some gated communities there with fewer than five child skeletons in the foundations). People will still act like they are running the genocide in a kinder fashion than trump would have, but I woulda thought the descendants of those who experienced it first hand would not use it as justification to little a some, as a treat.

Nobody is still going to be able to afford anything; Cops will still get more money to indiscriminately kill with impunity; everyone is expected to think this is fine despite power changing hands and the same results getting turned in; abortion will still only be accessable to the rich.

But hey, if us rural queers were smart we'd be born in a blue state amIrite?

I really don't give a fuck anymore. Back in May, I have told my county democratic party reps that if there wasn't a ceasefire by election day, I will stay home and allow the downticket to rot. What is happening is wrong and it remains wrong (a) when the specific promise was that voting for Biden would prevent the very thing his supporters are now saying is necessary to the function of any enlightened republic and (b) it still remains wrong especially when your side does it.

If I thought anybody there took my intent seriously, I wouldn't be posting semi-anonymously on a busted website in a sector crammed full of even worse cesspits. But the silence I have received since then has not been anything resembling a beacon of hope for someone who has struggled with mental health issues.

P.s. as a queer living in a red state, I have really appreciated blue state assholes dangling my rights over my head to avoid a very legitimate criticism of genocide. Stop demanding everybody else to do better when y'all can't even be fucked to follow your own goddamned advice.

[rauthschild]

It's true.  We probably don't hate Biden and Harris enough, but getting involved in the whole political sideshow and voting for Trump is not the answer, either.  Not voting and not caring is the answer.   

Both Trump and Biden supported and participated in the Pandemic.    Both pursued anti-American policies in the Mideast.  Neither one of these men have been honest about the history of this Mess, or even the facts about the phony political-party elections. 

We know that the Presidents of these corporations are actually elected by the unaccountable Electoral College.  We know that our votes don't count.  We know that "registering to vote" makes us presumed shareholders liable for the expenses of these bankrupt and corrupt foreign corporations that have been masquerading as our government.  

We know that no matter what flavor of crap we choose, it's still crap. 

We know.  So it's ridiculous for "Law Enforcement" or anyone else to think that our members are acting as "Sovereign Citizens" or that we give a rat's rump enough about these private corporation elections to bother to take a pot shot at any of the Talking Heads.   

Our Assembly members and everyone associated with the American State Assemblies knows that we are not allowed to vote in these elections, if we wish to maintain our separate identity and political status.  We shouldn't even send donations to favored candidates, because that muddies the water, and makes it look like we are illegally influencing a foreign election.  

Which goes back to the fact that we know the straight up skinny and we act accordingly. 

We know that Joe Biden isn't "our" President.  And we know that Donald Trump isn't "our" President, either.  We know that both these men have been working as the "Presidents" of two different for-profit foreign privately owned corporations in the business of providing essential government services.  

So what?  

We don't get bent out of shape or keep track of who is "President" of Walmart, do we?  

And Walmart means more to most of us than anything coming out of Washington, DC. 

Walmart provides us with more benefit than any part of the Federal Government, with the single possible exception of the Post Office. 

We can tell the Democrats and the Republicans ---- don't bother spending billions trying to get the Silent Majority roped up and entrapped and "registered" to pay debts owed by British Territorial U.S. Citizens or the Municipal citizens of the United States or both. 

That's not us.  We're not them.  Never were and still aren't. 

And the police can breathe easy and stand down, too.  All the Agencies can take a well-earned permanent vacation.  

Nobody here is subject to any of you, so we don't have any motive to spend our time or energy plotting any insurrections or violent attacks.  All we have to do is know the truth and keep on trekking. 

There is some evidence that Media Mumblefocks have tried to suggest that one of our American State Nationals was engaged in some kind of a planned attack and was going to shoot Trump or Harris, one of them.  

If so, it couldn't have been for any political reason.  We don't vote in those elections, because we know they are private elections pertaining to foreign corporations. And we aren't shareholders. 

Simple enough. 

If, now or ever, one of our people comes unglued as an individual and shoots at any foreign DC politician, you can be sure it's an individual meltdown, probably caused by the sheer irritation of having to listen to their campaign ads all day long for four months prior to private corporation elections that don't, actually, have anything direct to do with us. 

So, Talking Heads -- and everyone "managing" them, please take your own Tin Hats and Conspiracy Theories and Oxymorons (Sovereign Citizens, Secular Religions, and Military Intelligence, etc.) right on down the road.  Don't bother thinking we are "Left" or "Right".  

We don't have to take up arms, use bombs, or stage bought-and-paid for riots like some parties.  We don't do Good Cop - Bad Cop, use Buzz Aldrin Decoder Rings, or get all wound up anymore.

We are no longer living our lives in fear of our own employees.  

To paraphrase Elvis Costello, "We used to be disgusted, but now we try to be amused...."

We have our own peaceful and effective means to deal with run amok public employees.  We don't have to shoot DC politicians. We can fire them. Ask Joe Biden.  We don't have to foment any insurrection against foreign corporations.  We can bankrupt them all and do it all day long.  And if anyone thinks that we can't enforce our contracts, it's time for Bonzo to get a new pair of shoes and take a hike. 

We know. 

[bearded-snorlax]

Begging people to stop acting like not voting means nobody gets elected. Please grow up.

[specialagentartemis]

Almost always, when you see a fact that “X demographic didn’t get Y right until [shockingly late date!]” it means that it wasn’t codified into federal, nationwide law (in the US) until that date.

Married women got the federal protection to open a credit card/bank account in their own name in 1974. Before that, it was a patchwork of state laws and company policies whether a married women needed her husband’s signature or not to do so. In 1973 (in 1960, in 1950, in 1940, in 1900) some women had the ability to open bank accounts in their own name, and some didn’t, depending on circumstances. In 1974 it was ruled that there were no circumstances where they weren’t allowed to do so.

It’s like saying that abortion was only legal after 1973: well, yes and no, depending. It’s like saying gay marriage was only legalized in 2015: well, yes and no, depending. It’s not that nobody had these rights beforehand; it’s that these laws and these rulings made it so that these rights applied to everybody.

Even saying “women got the right to vote in 1920” is like this! Women had a patchwork of state and local rights to vote in some state and local elections depending on where they lived and what the local laws were for decades before 1920, but only in 1920 was the federal right enshrined for all women citizens* to vote in all elections regardless of where they live or what their status is.

*and for example, at this point, only certain Native Americans were considered citizens—so when you say (as I see on tumblr periodically) “Native Americans didn’t get the right to vote until 1924,” it’s the same thing. Native Americans could be US citizens before this if they gave up their tribal citizenship, until a federal law was passed in 1924 called the Indian Citizenship Act which recognized all Native Americans within US borders as US citizens. It’s not that before 1924, no Native Americans were allowed to vote or be US citizens; it’s that afterwards, all Native Americans got US citizenship rights. Which also doesn’t mean discriminatory state laws didn’t prevent Native Americans, Black people, immigrants, women, etc. from voting, which is why the Voting Rights Act had to be passed and the Civil Rights Movement and the American Indian Movement and the Feminist Movement all had to happen—but. It’s not like a switch gets flipped and beforehand, no one has rights anywhere, and after, everyone has rights. That’s not how it’s ever worked.

[the-firebird69]

Getting ready to start attacking this stupid **** **** **** we don't like what he's saying and do it and we're going to go after him. Doesn't have a right to do what he is doing and we're gonna make sure he understands it he's breaking so many laws he thinks nobody will arrest him when people are starting to arrest him and his people for every infraction to try and get money and stuff and he is a complete disastrous fool we're going to go after him very hard today to express a point we're going to take out tons of his people it is gonna be a hellacious day for him and it's gonna start very soon. We do have some announcements.

- There are several things that are wrong with how John Remaard is treated by the people here in the government they are ignoring criminal acts in his committee and it is in essence condoning the behavior and they think that we're having a hard time with it and they're deciding today we heard in a meeting that they're stupid and they're the ones having a hard time and they found his son backpedaling on things he was saying in meetings because he was telling people to go screw out loud is saying we don't need you and we don't need you and they are not his people but they are people that they've worked together with for a long time on a lot of projects right now they're getting ready to kick them out of the government of Florida and Charlotte County especially with this general election coming up in the month of August most positions in the county are coming up in August believe it or not and it helps pave the way for the presidential election instead of it hitting all at once the person who is popular starts to take over before election process is complete and that means that the presidential election comes second after a lot of positions are filled by the party that is taking over and that's been going on for years as John Remallard is exiting and also BJA is leaving and they leave behind a legacy of evil they are not known as nice people they are known as destructive miscreants who are terrorizing the populist wherever they are and whichever populace is there they're not discriminating and that is going on right now this month and it has started in Charlotte County with several positions that are going to become a vacant daily I don't know and that means that the people who are in there now are going to be vacating their job and they say that they will see how the vote goes and that they are threatening not to allow anybody to do the work and you don't really know how that works if they're not in the office and yeah that's their idea so we have that coming up and truthfully they have been making arrests already based on preliminary information about this type of activity and it is an illegal practice and it is frowned upon and they are getting arrested already and they have a tendency to hide it and it's probably wrong right now there are several individuals who are being arrested and apprehended for this particular behavior very soon they will be asked to leave this county and not return and John Remallard is on the list it's one of his aliases and it is beginning already because it is August there are three positions that they are vacating today there is a procedure where a new person takes over and they will probably not do it that way what they're going to do is have temporary people fill in and John Reman Lard said it already about Charlotte County with his temporary part time teacher and it's not gonna go well for these people

Thor Freya

Olympus

we are so sick of you stupid people here you dont knw

macs

adn we are too

mac daddy

us too

michael tew

little babies dont know any mwath and lose tons of stuff an nukes and territory, isnt that enough, nope. so they lose positions here anso what they say

Zues Hera

we come in look at them h ere

mac daddy

good us too we do

macs

us too we shall

thor Freya

Olympus all of us

[rjalker]

why do y’all US americans act like not voting means nobody will get elected?? are you stupid?? i understand the concern for palestine, but there is no political party that is willing to help stop that. so instead of voting democrat and maybe protecting the rights of poc, abortion rights, and the rights of lgbtq people, you’re happy to not vote and let a fucking republican who’s also happy watching palestine be destroyed but very much wants to destroy the rights of people in the US as well. can’t believe you’ve got the privilege of living in a democracy but you’re too fucking stupid to vote for your leader anyway.

Lol

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[taiwantalk]

I boldly predict that biden will win the re-election just like William lai who won his first presidential election.

The reason is very simple and not at all debatable.

Biden is an incumbent who has been attacked in the worst ways possible on his records and his look, his age, his mannerism by both sides and even his usual left wing moderate supporters who genuinely believe in foxnews propaganda are casting criticism about biden’s weak debate.

Lol, seriously. When have any of you ever seen such a weak supporter stomach? Like they echo precisely the bs from the right without refuting much but sounding agreeable.

But we know they won’t vote for trump. Biden’s supporters just gotta quit taking age and mannerism as real grownup reason to refute with the right.

It’s pure juvenile tease and the left wings are falling for it. It’s really no different than say mean things like vote for trump because biden is ugly and acts stupid.

The right wing did the same thing to William lai in Taiwan. The media in Taiwan did nothing but attacking William lai and played up how popular his opponents are. And in the end, his opponents were not even close.

Left wings need to remember that trump is a sore loser who went around demanding people to believe his biggest inauguration turnout.

Trump is a sore loser whose only argument is that he is 3 years younger than biden and can repeatly taunt faster and will not get tired sounding like a petulant child and is universally recognized as great election debate technique.

Really. Trump’s debate boils down to “you suck. Na na na na na you suck.”

Btw, there can only be one reason for trump to never relent on age attacks on biden - it’s to play up the fear that Kamala Harris will likely be a potus in the next 4 years.

That’s all. There’s potus and there’s vpotus. We have no reason worry about potus age.

Ask Roosevelt, ask Kennedy, ask Nixon, ask Reagan, ask trump. When trump caught covid19 was anyone really worried that he could die like so many others? No! Nobody gave a shit about how sick trump might be and whether he was strong enough because people are dying in the country while trump got the best care.