#or even really multi shipping

[pi-mawrth]

Honestly I need to put this out into the world:

I don't think a lot of people (mainly buddietwt at the moment) understand that shipping something doesn't need to be endgame. I can ship buddie and Tevan, because relationships don't have to last forever, they could still be friends after a break up too, but in my honest opinion right now Tevan is what buck needs and people are being way too harsh to Tommy for no reason. Is he perfect? No. Literally no one is.

I promise you it is perfectly normal to love people even if they aren't your forever person, in my opinion, this goes especially hard with queer people and relationships.

[hearteyespierce]

O time, thou must untangle this, not I. It is too hard a knot for me t'untie.

Twelfth Night (Viola, Act 2 Scene 2)

[crookedfivefingers]

3.13 | ᴛʜᴇ ʟᴀꜱᴛ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ʟᴏʀᴅꜱ

link to the post I accidentally wound up prattling endlessly about in the tags 💀

[titanbabyeams]

okay but how insane would I be if I admitted I was curious about the ship dynamic between The Ghoul & Norm?

The only issue I foresee is that, in my head, Norm is the younger brother and cannot possibly be over 22 years old… but boy, does that little worm in my brain bring up the ship every time I write.

Sometimes I just think it’d be so interesting? Norm has gained some backbone by the end of the series and I really think he wouldn’t be afraid to just… say what he thinks to The Ghoul’s face. He’d also have none of that ‘Vault Dweller Goodness’ that The Ghoul has associated with Lucy. There’d be a strange combination of respect and animosity… plus, I think he’d appreciated Norm’s dry humor.

Imagine: Lucy & The Ghoul are traveling together and Norm joins them at some point. Norm is keeping records of all the Wasteland creatures he comes across because he’s genuinely interested in how the surface has affected things and people…

…which leads him to asking rather probing questions to The Ghoul. Does he have genitalia? How long did the process take to become a ghoul? Are they experiencing radiation exposure just by traveling with him or do they have to be in closer proximity? Is he semen irradiated?

Purely scientific, of course, but The Ghoul would turn it right back on him and ask if he wants to experiment to learn these things.

Norm is disturbed, initially, cue crisis…

Who knows who knows.

[lover-of-mine]

Its funny isn't it. there's a side of the fandom that can only cope if they think of Eddie as some cardboard cutout that they can project onto. Its why I think they have latched onto T*mmy so quickly, because he is literally their dream beige version of Eddie and for so long Eddie being a character who has his own motivations has ruined their headcannons. Didn't someone work out that Buck this season has had way more scenes involving Eddie than Eddie has involving Buck? But Eddie is supposed to be the one twiddling his thumbs whilst Buck is out there living life etc.

No, but that's exactly it for a portion of the people on the fandom and that is definitely what made people jump straight into T's arms. Eddie is a main character. He has dept and development. He has 6 seasons worth of a personality that doesn't fit the ideal partner they see for the wobbified version of Buck they made up in their heads. And considering the way that canon established Tommy as Eddie two steps to the left that Buck is projecting feelings into, fanon went wild. Tommy has no established personality. He has the begin episodes that paint him in a not so great light. They have the few scenes that exist with Buck where he exists, okay? He's doing the bare minimum. Sometimes not even that. But that means he is a character they can project anything they want into. He's a blank canvas. That means the space can be filled with whatever they see fit. And that means they can take the personality they convinced themselves Eddie had and copy/paste into T and move on. I've seen some awful takes. AWFUL. Like, some people are legit attacking Eddie to make him look better in comparison because they can't deal with the way that Eddie is still Buck's partner in crime. Eddie is not allowed to exist outside of Buck and some people just wanted to see Oliver make out with a guy. T does that. In a blank canvas. The show is historical for handling Buck's love life poorly and people are putting too much weight on interviews. They lie all the time because they can't give things up. I wanna know what's gonna happen if this relationship isn't the smooth sailing people decided it will be. There is a chance it will be fine and end amicably. But there's also a chance that it will get messy. Right now it could tip either way and I don't think that part of the fandom is gonna be ready to deal with shit if it gets messy. If T does something that goes against the perfect pedestal they put him in. People are already ignoring actually canon stuff like the way he left Buck in a curb, failed to communicate why he was leaving until he was in the car, and then didn't come back. So like, it's crazy. And yeah, a lot of Buck's arc so far has involved Eddie somehow, but Buck is adjacent to Eddie's. But I guess that's making it worse, because they don't like Eddie unless he's providing Buck with something they see fit and they are getting that somewhere else. Some people are showing that they don't have critical thinking skills when it comes to queer couples and honestly, that's kind of alarming.

[munsons-mutiny]

I’m sorry critters I have a confession:

I just don’t like Fearne and Ashton together romantically. I don’t like it.

Personally I love wild child aromantic Fearne who beds who she wants, flirts with everything, and is basically a loose canon.

And I think Ashton needs someone whose soft with them. They still need to have a desire for adventure and getting into trouble, but I really think he’d do so well with someone a little more grounding!! Which is just not Fearne, who doesn’t always think of others when she’s making decisions (this isn’t a bad thing, I fucking love this about Fearne)!!!

And don’t think I don’t love their dynamic, their friendship is so cute!!! The stealing game, and even the forehead kiss was adorable and I love to see them together. But I just,,,,,,, don’t like it romantically.

[mcyt-rarepair-tournament]

seeing what people will do to get people to vote their ship is so funny to me. i’m willing to bet this entire tournament has gotten at least one person out of their writers/artists block

Shipping is serious business, lol. I hope this helped people with their creative blocks, that'd be really funny.

[im-not-a-l0ser]

I will lose my fucking goddamn mind if I come across another fake dating fic where the endgame isn't tagged.

Like, if you start a fic with an endgame in mind, and then that changes while writing the story, that's fine! Just Change the tags! That easy! Some people don't multi-ship, and it's fine that you do, but maybe make it clear how it's gonna end because me and a lot of other people don't like certain ships and that's fucking okay.

[gerandor]

It’s not necessarily that the wwdits fandom is edgy, it’s that this usually happens in fandoms all the time. Many people eventually get bored of the one ship after a while and crave new dynamics. It’s not a bad thing in and of itself, the problem comes when they don’t understand what they’re feeling and start trying to find reasons to justify it, hence starting toxicity claims and over-analyzing the first ship to a fault. But yeah to answer your question, it’s just a normal thing that I’ve seen happen in probably every single fandom I’ve been in.

Oh thank you so much for taking the time to explain this! 💕

I admit im not part of a lot of fandoms, and most of them are nearly dead. What you said actually makes a lot of sense.

And I think the whole toxicity discourse is just so illogical bc these are fictional characters in a silly fictional world and whatever they decide to do has no bearing on the real life n real ppl. Its just for fun. Its ok not to like a character or a ship but when they try to justify it by saying its 'problematic' and 'toxic' i can't help but to roll my eyes. Believe me we're not taking relationship advice from a silly vampire show.

And i also think its funny (n kinda frustrating tbh) that nandermo isn't even canon yet and some ppl are already treating it like it happened and its now gone, so lets move on to a new ship (which never includes my blorbo nandor) 😅

[inawickedlittletown]

After catching up on fandom things today I just gotta say that I am fascinated by the way that someone can turn something around to feed their perspective. And it's like, guys, I was here for TJLC...nothing can get as wild as that, I think, but ship wars do nothing but get aggravating and they make people that don't want to get involved so annoyed they pick a side.

There is such a thing as multi-shipping and also just being decent and staying in your own lane and enjoying your ship and the fanworks being produced. Curate what you see and who you interact with and it just makes your life so much easier.

[mishtershpock]

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[winteryserpent]

...I am not happy about the return of the "Vincent Valentine is really Sephiroth's father's" truthers.

(Not that they ever really went away, I just hadn't interacted with any in a long time and unfortunately an artist whose art I enjoy for other fandoms is into the Vincent is Sephiroth's dad theory.)

(Also I want a PS5 so damn badly so I can play the game instead of being teased by other people's posts and having to self-exile myself from the fandom for like a year as to not get spoiled too much.)

[torgawl]

unpopular opinion but a ship being queer coded doesn't make it compelling

[multiversal-pudding]

Ngl kinda happy that the N + V week didn’t happen on halloween like the name halfway suggested tbh

I will admit a liiitle bit of it’s because I’m not personally a fan of N + V but like also-

Like, don’t get me wrong I don’t think doing some cute ship art for halloween would be a bad thing/a week for one ship doesn’t necessarily preclude other people doing their own stuff/multiple existing at one time but like- I kinda think it’d just be a really good time for some general prompts focusing more on the horror parts of the series/maybe some fluff that can be romantic or can apply to everyone in the whole cast?

(also even if I think the idea of it being a “ship war” in general beyond mild jabs/memes is kinda dumb vs just having your own preferences and opinions based on your analysis- if we are going on ship war terms, I don’t like the idea of either side trying to claim it and that goes for “my side” too :( )

[danielnelsen]

im reading all my old hwu fanfics oh god.. like i was a decent writer but some of the stuff i wrote smh......... and like.. the ships. or one in particular. had to write for the most popular ship if i wanted anyone to read anything i wrote but please know that i HATED it

[fairsweetlonging]

yes!! it's very interesting to me that the fandom is so different from tgcf, despite overlapping quite a bit.

i think it's a little bit of a combination between different factors, like:

the audience seems generally older (tgcf, i've noticed, has a large teen audience, maybe because of the rating? svsss has a couple explicit scenes), and usually, in my experience, an older audience won't be engaged in drama as much

it's a deliberate parody novel that doesn't take itself too seriously (which i looove about it), so its readers don't take it too seriously either

and the novel itself, in my opinion, openly invites you to look beyond the main pairing (like with the extra where liu qingge seems convinced he's shen qingqiu's soulmate, but also yue qingyuan and shen qingqiu/jiu sharing a red string, and shen yuan having great chemistry with most characters)

also, despite it being translated into english by seven seas in 2021, it doesn't have any recently added material that pushes it onto people's radar (like with the tgcf donghua and revised version), thus leaving it to people that seek it out themselves (if that makes sense). svsss is, sad as it sounds, "outdated" in comparison, which could be the cause of it's open and easy going fandom!

The lack of shipping wars in the Scum Villian fandom is really fucking funny because we all ship different people with the main character Shen Qingqiu, and instead of fighting about it, we collectively decided that he deserves to have a harem consisting of every single guy in the book.