#null!marinette

[nionom-art]

Sooo I ran across this cool concept art of an unused kwami design. And… well- I had to make some art.

It’s called Null, the kwami of nothingness, with an ambition to “Return the world back to nothingness”. I decided that the power it would have would be called “Void”, allowing its users to make any one thing disappear permanently. I figured Null would be the universe’s counterbalance to the kwami of reality, Gimmi.

I’ve seen some theories floating around that Null might be appearing in season 6, I feel like that could be pretty interesting, depending on how it’s handled.

Side note: making Marinette recognizable when you get rid of her bangs is harder than I thought it would be- hopefully y’all can tell it’s her, haha. The working name I have going for her is Lady Cipher

[flightlessribbons]

BRIDGETTE: SCARLET DANCER ERA

ML AU PT.3

When Bridgette was 16, she was given the ladybug miraculous from Sabine. Sabine told her she herself wasn't in the condition to wear it anymore, and that it was safer with Bri. Sabine didn't explicitly tell her daughter to take up the responsibilities of Ladybug, but began to be her mentor and train her when Bridgette expressed an interest to protect the city.

Deciding against keeping it a secret from Marinette, Bridgette confided in her little sister since they shared a room and Mari would get suspicious eventually. Tikki grew fond of both girls and stayed a member of the family- hanging out with the four at meals and other home family activities.

Felix was gifted the Black Cat miraculous from his mother Amelie, and kept it secret from everyone else in his extended family while she trained him.

Felix and Bridgette were partners, going by the names of "Tuxedo" and "Scarlet Dancer". No other miraculous holders joined them in their time, but the two helped out with crimes and helped everyday civilians out in this quiet peace.

Tuxedo was a more serious Chat Noir, and served as the reasonable and pragmatic one. He did have a sense of humor, and was often laughing when around the more joking and carefree Scarlet Dancer. The two had feelings for one another, Ladybug taking a liking to Chat first soon after meeting, and Chat beginning to grow fond of her after a while. They never told each other how they felt during this time.

Around a year and a half in of the current Ladybug and Chat Noir, Emilie's health declined, and she fell into a coma. This spurs Gabriel's reluctant transformation into Hawkmoth.

Hawkmoth sets an akuma in the beginning of the day to wander around itself in search of a vulnerable enough host, so he doesn't really know when an akuma attack will begin. (It's also his way of trying to lessen the guilt of subjecting innocents in this- but the guilt still hits hard).

Using the broken brooch alongside the overwhelming power from Null drains Gabriel very easily, causing him to grow gradually weaker the more he uses the miraculous.

As akuma attacks begin, Bridgette and Felix are in unfamiliar territory that even their mentors are unsure about.

Tikki teaches Bridgette how to purify akumas, and the more enemies they fight, the more Tikki notices similarities in their powers and mannerisms to that of old fae friends that she had known in eras past. Tikki concludes that these strange akumas are not just the work of the butterfly miraculous, but Null as well- and that he's the one fusing akumas with the powers and fae he's absorbed. Purifying the akuma causes the faerie's spirit to pass on.

There is no miraculous ladybug cure, but when a faerie's spirit passes on, its energy undos any physical damages the akuma itself caused to the city.

As the attacks seem to get more dangerous, Sabine pleads with her daughter to stop, but Bridgette refuses- knowing that she needs to save the city and be there for her partner.

This routine goes on for months, until an especially dangerous akuma comes into play. This battle lasts two days until Ladybug was able to purify the akuma- but not without a cost.

Felix's legs were badly hurt in the battle, and Bridgette hoped purifying the akuma would heal his wounds but it didn't. He asks her to take him to a specific alleyway, where Scarlet cries and apologizes and Tuxedo promises her they'll be okay. But he says that she has to go or else she'll see who he is, and convinces her to leave. When she's gone, he calls Amelie to pick him up and tells her what happens when she arrives.

When Bridgette comes home, she gives Tikki the earrings and tells the fae to find a more suitable holder. Tikki objects, but Bri is adamant that she has failed and let her partner get hurt. She refuses to take the earrings back, and only begins to cry again when Tikki has flown out the window with the earrings. Marinette comes home to her crying, and listens to what happened, and sits with Bri through the night.

Tikki, unsure of where to go and reluctant to leave the only family she's known for centuries, hides in the cluttered attic and ponders what to do.

Felix is hospitalized and is told that he is paralyzed in both of his legs from the injury. Realizing he can no longer be Chat Noir, Felix gives the ring to Adrien hours later when he comes to visit and asks him if he'd take on the responsibility- or at the very least return the ring back to Amelie at a later date if Adrien chooses not to. His young cousin talks with him and finally decides to keep the ring, introducing himself to Plagg and letting Felix and the faerie say a proper goodbye before he leaves.

When Gabriel learns of Felix's injury that is too close to Chat Noir's injury, he puts the two together and falls into a bad state. Refusing to send out more akumas because of what he's done to hurt his nephew, Gabriel calls off the deal with Null, telling him to release Nooroo and find another to do his bidding. But Null refuses.

From using the broken miraculous, Null's power, and emotional grief, Gabriel is extremely vulnerable. Using this as an opportunity, Null uses the powers of multiple faeries and takes control of Gabriel's body.

Null visits Felix in the hospital, looking out for the ring but sees nothing. Felix quickly suspects something is wrong with his uncle and calls Amelie when Null leaves.

Amelie, who is with Adrien at this time since he came right to her after his visit to Felix to see Amelie as his mentor, hangs up the call and asks her nephew if Gabriel has been acting differently recently. Adrien tells her about how he's been really tired, but he's always tried to spend time with him when he could like usual so he'd just been chalking it up to work.

Amelie knows there's more they don't know, but until they know exactly what- advises Adrien to be careful. Knowing well how to hide things from her own ex kingpin father growing up, she gives him pointers on how to hide Plagg and the ring well and sneak around. With promises to visit often and do his best, Adrien goes home, leaving Amelie worried for all members of her family.

Previous: SABINE: MINI MENACE ERA

Next: MARINETTE: LADY LUCK ERA

[taldigi]

Nullification.

In order to create Akuma, someone must be nullified- or, have their emotions and color completely drained from them. From there, the Akuma go and seek another host to infect and transform into a monster. Once the Akuma is defeated, the emotions return to the Nullified- which is deeply shocking and often painful as they are forced to feel everything all at once.

There is no purification ritual, and they simply need to be defeated. Not all Akuma must be defeated physically- some may be dispersed by solving a problem- often related to the emotion that corrupts the victim. The death of a nullified person will disperse the Akuma. This is an extreme scenario that the heroes never take, but the villains may use if the Akuma get too far out of hand. The posessed, however, is spared.

Nullified aren't completely emotionless, and are often left with just enough trace emotion to function at bare minimum- stick to routine, care for oneself. After all, emotions like shame and fear keep us together.

Null, the fae of Nothingness, is able to offer a contract that grants a user the ability. Adoni Duther is Null's current contract holder- who ends up using this ability to assist Richard Sphinx with his goal to free Null from it's imprisonment and end the world. She also makes use of this ability at his request, as he desires to stop feeling emotions as grief over his lost wife- and eventually escape guilt that had been built from his criminal activities

However, in a final bid for power, Adoni makes full use of the ability to truely strip Richard Sphinx of all emotion, resulting in an incredibly powerful Akuma that essentially leaves him brain dead- even after it's defeated.

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an exploration on how Adoni's powers could work and how they may be used in a meaningful way

[688199]

the transition into 3d and the current story made classic marinette lose her, marinette-ness.

she used to have this really charming “dorky girl next door” kinda vibe.

but marinette now is like, conventionally attractive to the max until it’s straight up bland. her personality does not show through her character design at all.

like for example, classic marinette has more hair strands sticking out (ditziness) and big round eyes (innocence). but canon marinette? idk she’s just the default character model settings.

so now even the 2d art of canon marinette doesn’t have life. if you know what i mean.

yet another reason why i dislike canon marinette.

[sallertiafabrica]

Google search: the fuck do you do when your kid’s questioning the nature of god???

[bitsandbobcats]

emotionless

[kuromori4]

I just want to talk about how absolutely emotionally DONE MariBug is.

Like, I'm not saying that she doesn't feel any emotions throughout the special. Clearly, she does.

But the way she handled the entire ordeal, calmly and with a level-head... I don't think it was just a show of being strong. I truly think that it was a breaking point for her. She could do nothing other than be calm, because something broke in her and she just became utterly numb. This girl has been THROUGH IT. (They both have)

But Marinette is done crying. She's done panicking. The worst possible outcome has already come to pass, so what's left but to pick up the pieces? And I don't think it's by choice. Sure, she's acting strong to get through it all. But at this point, I don't think she's truly capable of much else.

The weight on her shoulders has never been heavier. It was already too much for her, long before we got to this point. She's being completely crushed and it's like she's on auto-pilot just so she makes it out alive.

It's not until a true distraction comes her way that we see her come to life a little bit. The wish, Bunnyx, the whole time travel situation is exactly the distraction she needs to be able to snap out of that null, hollow, painful void. A task. A problem to solve. Something to take her mind off of the what she can't fix, and focus on something she can. Something she must fix.

I love her to bits and this girl just... deserves a break. a rest. A very long holiday. And she's so strong. SO STRONG. Like really, what 14/15 year old girl wouldn't completely dissolve under that kind of pressure?

(Okay and just for the added insult, I just wanna throw in here the old phrase "Pressure makes Diamonds" because I think that really parallels the whole 'Lila is a stone" thing.)

[kathrahender]

One of the things I dislike most about fandoms is the hypocrisy of their fans. And this is about ships again, yes (it's about characters too ngl).

Every anti-Bakudeku/Catradora fan says things like "How can you ship couples like these? It's so abusive! It's disgusting! Catra/Bakugo were so mean towards Adora/Izuku! Catradora/Bakudeku is so toxic and you shouldn't like it!" and then, when talking about Hiccstrid people always love them together. Even if Astrid was also a bully to Hiccup. Even if her development was null (don't say she had development, her "redemption" arc was shit and she needed more time in screen and more scenes between her and Hiccup to change from "I hate all the dragons" to "I was wrong about them". And one scene with an OST called "Romantic Flight" is not enough to make her redemption believable). Talking about development, do I really have to say that you hate Catradora/Bakudeku, but at least Catra and Bakugo apologized to Adora and Izuku? Astrid didn't say sorry to Hiccup for bullying him/hurting him. And you should be aware of that.

Bakugo and Catra didn't redeem in one day, they didn't get up one day and decided to be nicer. No, they had to work in their redemption and they also had to work in their relationship with the people they hurt (Izuku and Adora). Astrid didn't do that. All she needed to change was flying in a dragon with the person she used to hate.

Having all of that in mind, tell me, which relationship would be more healthy, logical and believable? The ones where the bully had to work hard to make amends for their mistakes, to heal their scars to make it better for the MC? The ones where the bully apologized to their victim, to the people they hurt? Or the one where all it took to change from "I hate you so much" to "I like you" was one scene, and they didn't even apologize for being a bully/being a bad person? Think about that.

And think about another thing too. A girl hurting a boy is bad. "But she-" No. "But she's not being cruel and she-" Enough. Don't fucking justify female-on-male violence. Violence is violence. If you hate Bakugo/Catra so much for hurting Izuku/Adora, then treat Astrid the same way, because she was not an angel before changing. She's not innocent. She was a bully too. And if you despise Bakugo/Catra's past actions, despise Astrid's past actions too.

Where I also saw Double Standard in media is in shows where there's a female character stalking a male character. Two examples that come to my mind right now are Hinata Hyuga from Naruto and Marinette Dupain-Cheng from Miraculous Ladybug.

The thing about them is that a lot of people love them. A lot of people love a female character stalking a male character. Dear God, Marinette learned the daily schedule of Adrien, and she even traveled to another country for him. Because she couldn't bear thinking he was in another country where she couldn't see what was he doing. That's not freaking normal, you guys. "She was a girl" "She didn't know what was she doing" "She's just in love". Excuse me- What. the. hell. Okay. So you're saying you're okay with a girl being so jealous that everytime her "crush" talks to a girl she needs to be around. You're okay with a girl entering her crush's house without permission (Do you know that's a crime, right?). You're okay with a girl having her bedroom full of photos of her crush (and I'm not talking about a fictional character from a show she likes. I'm talking about a real person. Because in Miraculous Ladybug's world, Adrien is Marinette's classmate, not a character from a show). I'm sorry, but if you think that's okay, there's something wrong with you. People can like someone and have a crush, sure, but what she has is an obsession. What she's doing is not normal. (And she can do that in the show, after all she's a character, but don't act like she's a nice person and an innocent person because she isn't. And definitely don't see her actions as a normal thing).

People, please, don't think what she's doing is "iconic" or something like that. If you're watching this show, please, don't do the same as her with your crush because is awful and disgusting. She's not "cute" for doing this. She has a problem, I'm being serious.

If she had a better love story with Adrien, like she did in the movie, I would understand the Adrinette ship because in the new movie it's just beautiful and wholesome and it's actually healthy. But when it comes to the show, the Adrinette ship can't be nothing more than toxic. So stop acting like Marinette's actions towards Adrien are okay (Yes, Adrien's actions towards Ladybug weren't okay neither, but this post is about female characters).

What Hinata Hyuga did -in comparison with Marinette- is not that bad, but even then, following her crush (Naruto Uzumaki) everytime he's with his friends/classmates is not nice. It's not cute. It's not something people should do. And the Naruhina ship honestly makes no sense. Okay, I get it. It's the type of romance we all want to have. We all want our crush to fall in love with us. We all want to have a relationship with the person we used to have a crush on. But if you want to include that trope if your story, if you want them to end up together in a show/book/movie, give them development. The ship has to feel natural.

We have to feel/see the chemitry. And I saw (and still see) no chemistry between Naruto and Hinata. Sasunaru, on the other hand, has a lot of emotional moments together and moments when they bond (their chemistry is right there). And it's not for my own preference, but they would have made a better couple. Mostly because they shared more screen time with each other. Even though Shikanaru and Gaanaru are also good options for a canon ship. Because they also had chemistry. But Naruto's love for Hinata in my opinion didn't feel natural. It was forced.

After all of this, let me say something more. You probably don't care about a girl stalking a boy in fiction. You're probably like "She's not doing anything wrong" "She's a teenager" "Stop being judgmental, she's a good character" "She's a nice person". If what they do it's okay for you, let me ask you a question. What if their gender was reversed? Yeah. Imagine if Marinette and Hinata weren't girls. Imagine if they were boys. Imagine if a boy went to another country to control the actions of another girl. Imagine if a boy entered his crush's house without permission. Imagine if a boy stalked the girl he likes to see if she's talking to another boys. Imagine if a boy had pictures of the girl he likes in his bedroom. What would you think then? Oh- You would think it's disgusting? It would be disgusting for you, right? Why? Because it's a boy?

People, have this in mind:

👏👏👏 If a boy does something bad and a girl does the same thing they both need to be treated the same way 👏👏👏

A girl hitting a boy isn't funny. It shouldn't be played for fun. As well as a boy hitting a girl. Neither of them is funny. And neither of them can be justified.

A girl stalking a boy isn't funny. As well as a boy stalking a girl. Neither of them is funny. And neither of them can be justified.

That's why I ask you to stop being two-faced. If you despise someone's actions, you despise someone's actions, whether it is a boy or a girl. You want equality? Then fucking stop with the double standard.

A bad action is a bad action, no matter who makes it. Period.

[anxresi]

I Beg To Differ.

Okay, now just because I'm about to embark on an epic rant does NOT mean I think anything bad about you as a person, OP. It's just on this one teensie-weensie most minor of points, I happen to think you're 100% wrong. Just thought I'd clarify that, so no offense intended. Anyway, on with the show...

Nah, they did us SO dirty with Chloe. I hear your above argument a lot, and it WOULD be a fair point… if it wasn't for the fact that there are SO many clear signs this wasn't what was intended from the beginning that it makes your reasoning completely null and void. Chloe's 'arc' was the most blatant case of in-show character assassination I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing, and I'm about to explain why. Read on! (If you want to, that is.... no pressure).

They strung us along for at least three seasons with various hints about her 'traumatic past', her problems with her often absent mother (which Marinette didn't help by encouraging them to bond because 'they're both such awful people'), showed her genuinely apologizing to her victims, protecting Sabrina from akumatization and having times when she treated her as a real friend, sacrificing herself to save the day occasionally, hugging Miss Bustier in a moment of genuine emotion, telling Ladybug how 'useless' she felt in a teary rooftop encounter, saving lives both as a superhero and a civilian (check back if you don't believe me), giving Adrien a moving speech on his phone about how 'she'd always be there for him', sharing a really close bond with her father, telling her butler Jean it was time she started doing things for herself, loving Mr Cuddly, adoring Pollen… I could go on. Not the best person in the world, true.... but a promising start. Green shoots, and all that. Her name literally means that.

S4 simply forgot any of this happened, and literally pushed her burgeoning development off a cliff with Sisyphu's boulder tied to it's big toe. There was NO build-up, NO foreshadowing, NO precedent for Chloe suddenly becoming a one-dimensional total-sociopath irredeemable-monster AT ALL, they simply made her that way on a whim. They had her start acting like a complete psycho for the evilz, made her the most stupid person in the show BY FAR, severed ALL of her few close relationships, wrote AN ENTIRE FLASHBACK EPISODE in incrimate her newfound nastiness even more and 'punished' her by sending her off exiled on a plane in tears with her abusive mother to… what else? Get abused, of course. GREAT MESSAGE TO ALL THE VULNERABLE TEENAGE GIRLS OUT THERE. (I won't even get into how utterly useless and blandly boring her 'replacement' of a plot device Mary S... oops, I mean Zoe is).

And we're supposed to believe the former corrupt mayor Andre, the terrorist Gabriel Agreste and Thomas Astruc (you know him) are the GOOD guys here? Well, I'd like to tell you what I'd like to do to them… but for fear of censorship, I'd better withhold that particular information for now.

The upshot of it is… if Chloe had been bad from the beginning and terrible at the end, I'd have accepted it. Heck, if her so-called damnation arc was even halfway well written and gave us an accurate and compelling look at the moral descent a person who's capable of redemption could take to the light but ultimately chose to stay on the Dark Side, this would've been highly disappointing to me but fine from a storytelling perspective.

But they didn't give us anything like that, did they? It was just… 'pretend the last three seasons never happened, develop amnesia, hit yourself repeatedly on the head with a shovel… we don't care. Just accept this is the NEW Chloe without question despite past evidence, because you won't be getting any answers. Now let's go back to what we're REALLY here for… Marichat, Ladynoire, Adrinette and that other stupid ship name. SWOON!'

Thanks, but no thanks. Did I ever tell you how much I HATE this stupid show? Apologies if I didn't make that clear enough.

[princess-of-the-corner]

(Ask ran past the word count, plus tablet is having issues)

I think my favourite variety of “Marinette finally tells Adrien” fic, is. Like. I don’t remember the name, but after everything has gone down, Marinette has some time for introspection, the chance to reevaluate some things. Ya know, now that she isn’t dealing with *gestures to all of that*. After a bit of time (and a lot of guilt) she finally decides “Actually, no. Lying to Adrien about all this shit is wrong, it’s immoral, if I want to have ANY kind of relationship with him, I need to come clean.” So she tries to do that … and can’t, cause Gabe was not trusting, and also excels at fucking things up without even being present, so his Wish means when Marinette agreed to not tell Adrien any of this stuff, she basically signed a magic contract that PHYSICALLY PREVENTS HER from telling him. It also prevents her from telling him anything that could explicitly lead to Adrien figuring it out on his own, which means that, because the “terms” were so broad, & so much of Marinette’s shit has gotten tangled up in the whole … Thing, that she can’t even tell him a lot of adjacent stuff, like “Hey, I think I might have issues with feeling in control”, or, “so, this one time, before we started dating, I stole your phone cause I left an embarrassing voice mail about how hot I thought you were, and I decided stealing your phone and deleting the message was appropriate”.

And, like, she tries some other stuff! But this thing really has a strangle hold on her, so it’s basically no going until she has a total breakdown, and confesses most of this to Chat Noir - not the whole, cause she can’t, but the outline of what happened, cause as long as she isn’t trying to tell Adrien, she can sort of talk around it. Cause they STILL don’t know each other’s identities. And because Magic is finicky and trollish, the fact that “Ladybug” is talking about it with “Chat Noir” apparently doesn’t set it off. And she says just enough that Chat goes “wait, this sounds familiar”, and asks some questions. And the more questions he asks, the weirdly easier it is for Marinette to talk about, until finally Chat bursts out “MY DAD WAS FUCKING HAWK MOTH!?” and the magic contract thing breaks down entirely, cause once Adrien knows, the contract is null and void. 

There was a bit more after that, but that’s the only bit I remember.

-

See I really like that! Like

I’ve talked before on how I can initially see Marinette making that snap decision of ‘don’t tell him lie to protect him’.

But I don’t think she’d keep it going once she thinks about it too long and/or the guilt gets to her.

Having the Wish be an aspect to extend the drama is a fantastic way to do this in a way that doesn’t make Mari look like An Asshole™

[nionom-art]

Kwami Swap Master Post :)

I figured I would compile all my kwami swaps into one post so that they were easier to find for you guys. So- here are the ones I have so far!

Marinette: Fox, Rabbit, Horse, Snake, Snake + Cat, Cat, Horse+cat fusion, Null, Cat+Ladybug fusion, Peacock

Adrien: Peacock, Dog, Horse, Monkey, Tiger, Mouse, Turtle, Fox, Cat+Ladybug fusion, Snake

Alya: Dog, Horse, Bee, Bee+ Fox

Lila: Ladybug, Ruster, Cat, Butterfly, Bee, Cat + Ladybug, Null

Zoe: Pig, Ladybug

Chloe: Dragon

Kagami: Bull, Fox, Ram, Bee

Luka: Turtle

[imthepunchlord]

Did you watch Season 5 of Miraculous? What did you think of it?

I stopped watching Miraculous at s3, I didn't watch s4 or s5, but I've heard a bit about it. Technically can't really give an opinion but I can share what I think based on what I heard.

I heard Adrienette dating was not too bad, but should've been much sooner. I agree. Could've saved us a bunch of trouble and salt. I also heard that they had the most powerful kiss that adults literally could not tear them apart XD that was funny to hear.

I got to learn that melting Miraculous down doesn't count as destroying them so, who's going to tell Frodo the one ring actually isn't destroyed as apparently melting doesn't count as destroying. Who knew?

And I got to learn that Gabriel was able to make the wish, getting what he ultimately wanted terrorizing all of Paris for 5 seasons, is remembered as a hero, and Adrien never learns about it which is all a really big wth. From what I've seen, no one was happy about that.

Uuuuh... I heard Lila got exposed, but it was meh. I heard she now goes by Cerise? Which ok, let's just make this confusing character even more confusing. Also, how much you want to bet that Cerise/Lila will join them in high school, and there's a repeat of Marinette knowing that's Lila who is lying to them but no one believes her and thinks Cerise is someone entirely new.

Ummmmmmm... oh, I heard Feligami is now a thing? Very rushed and kinda creepy/weird? But I guess they did a decent job as I do see the occasional fanart for them. Personally, I'll just stick to Kagami with girls. That moment in Riptose stuck with me waaaay to much to really get behind her being more interested in boys. I will say, Adrigami did have some nice moments, and there's concepts there where I think they can work nicely off each other (Adrien needs to learn to grow a backbone while Kagami wants to rebel and make friends, they can help each other with that), so Adrien could be the only guy I could roll with for her, but still prefer her paired with girls more.

Also I guess Felix is now a hero despite stealing the yo-yo from Ladybug and handing off... 14 Miraculous to Gabriel. And presumably making him more dangerous/difficult, though he is an idiot so I don't know how much more challenging he got. As far as I know, it was pretty much like another Tuesday.

Oh and apparently there will now be 18 heroes in Paris as I got to learn through asks. I wonder how that's going to work, if at all. Place your bets on how often we'll even see those full time heroes, as they can't really take much attention away from Marinette and Adrien, but who knows. S6 is in that weird placement now that Thomas is no longer apart of the development of ML, so it's hard to say how different it'll go.

Oh. I don't like Tikki and Plagg's true forms. Kinda Digimon over complicated design, and biblical in aesthetic which I found weird when they're supposed to be tied to Taoism. I have yet to find anything similar to biblical angels in Toaism, so I feel like this design choice works off a Christian view more (which isn't surprising as Plagg works off the unlucky black cat, which is exclusively from Christian Europe roughly 400 years ago).

Additionally, Gimmi felt like more of a Nooroo true form, than a fusion of Plagg and Tikki. I think they should've brought the concept of Null back. I think they were a better thought of a fusion of Creation and Destruction as these two concepts brought together would just nullify each other.

So over all, based on what I've heard, it's a pretty negative view of s5.

[taldigi]

My biggest peeves were:

Literally the same story as the 3D show except it's Felix and/or the quantic kids. Nothing changes. Felix is a model. Gabriel is his dad. Marinette is Dupain Cheng. Alya is The lady blogger and not an intrepid school reporter. Nino Is here. And I'm not saying it's a reinterpretation, I'm saying it's a one-to-one story beat to story beat retelling.

Bonus points if they just shove gdv into the story and pretend that it's precanon Felix. They even leave Adrian as chat noir. I know you think you can get away with it because You're calling him culpa, but I know. I know better. Even if nobody else cares.

You know what the story needs? More Adrian. Not that much Adrian, just about 2 cubic tons. If I wanted to read a 20 chapter fic about Adrian's struggles I would just read a Canon fic. He is just so unnecessarily jammed into every little nook and cranny. Go away you little parasite.

Bridgette is the mind killer. It's less about the name change and more about the principles behind it. Every single felibri felinette story I have ever stumbled upon has just been anime tropes. I know the pv didn't have a lot of meat on it, but the art book was still out and there were translations and we had art of null and Richard and concept storyboards. It's not like it wasn't out there. And I know they knew about it because they add the quantic kids every single fucking time.

Ring curse. And you don't even give ladybug an earring curse to match. Fucking cowards.

[starwarsmum]

And it's Wednesday, so heres chapter 16 of Introducing: Mousinette 🫶 Jason and Damian Talk

Marinette sat on the edge of her building’s rooftop, swinging her feet. Her feelings were all over the place, part of her thrilled to see one of her closest friends, another devastated that he had come because her relationship with Damian was imploding.

She stilled when she heard the soft sound of feet behind her, turning as they got closer. She was hopeful until she saw the flash of golden hair and Adrien's slightly crooked smile. She gave him a tired smile in return, accepting the cup he offered her.

“So, do you sit up here often? I've gotta say, the view is not as nice as I'm used to,” Adrien said, and she could hear the smirk in his voice. She whacked him, and he feigned injury before continuing. “I guess not everywhere can be the city of love, but I'm sure this used to be way more romantic.”

“I’m pretty sure it's who you're with that makes it more romantic,” she sassed, eyes rolling. She sighed, relaxing against his side as his arm settled over her shoulders again. “Why can't I ever get this right? Luka and I broke up because I wasn't honest enough, you and I had too much going on and apparently I was too honest this time. Not to mention all those half-assed attempts to date with guys who weren't my type.”

“Maybe the timing was just never right, Bug.” His voice was gentle and Marinette felt safe next to him. She always had, it was why it had been so easy to fall in love with him so young. She sighed again, tucking her feet up beside her. “You'll get your happy ending, Mari, even if I have to marry you myself to make it happen.”

“Oh please, as if I could deprive poor Lila of her Adri-boo,” she teased, making him groan. He huffed in annoyance, tweaking her side. “I can't believe Alya and Nino still think you're secretly into her.”

“Don't remind me, she's been a literal nightmare. Every time I think I've managed to shake her clear, Alya invites her for a double date that I was told was a casual hang. I've told her, straight up, that I have no interest in Lila, but she insists on doing it.”

“Yeah well, I tried. I've told Alya over and over that Lila's a liar but all I get back is that I must still be jealous,” she said with disdain. “As if it wasn't a mutual break up! She thinks that's why I can't make a relationship last beyond two dates, some kind of self sabotage.”

“Hey, maybe she's on to something,” Adrien joked, ducking out of the way of her next swat. “Now now, that's dangerous, M'lady. You wouldn't want your backup husband to plummet prematurely to his death.”

“Oh my God, you're impossible! We made that promise before we even dated, I'm pretty sure that makes it null and void. Besides,” she said, squinting at him. “Some girl is going to sweep you off your feet, I just know it. You're a very eligible bachelor, even with the family history.”

“You sound like Chloe,” he said sourly. “Maybe I don't want somebody new to sweep me off my feet. Besides, we're not here to talk about my love life, we're here to help you get over yours. Chloe said you were really excited about this guy, so I was really surprised when you messaged me out of nowhere about ruining everything.”

“Well, full disclosure, that text was meant to go to Chloe, but I was treating myself to a little mental breakdown, so I must have clicked your name instead. And, like I said when we spoke on the phone, I accidentally stumbled onto a big secret, that I know he wouldn't want me to know yet, if ever, so it's my fault. I guess I just didn't expect him to ghost me.”

The silence that followed was broken by the heavy thud of feet behind them. Adrien immediately jumped up, on the defensive and placing himself between Marinette and the apparent danger. He was crouched, nearly hissing at the tall man behind them, who sported a shiny helmet and a leather jacket.

“Whoa, hold on both of you! Adrien, stand down, this is one of Gotham's vigilantes! J- Red Hood, what brings you by?” She cursed herself for almost slipping, but ignored it. Adrien slowly straightened out of his crouch, glaring at the taller man. 

“Uh, you know you two are out on the rooftops in the dead of night, in Gotham? I'm stopping by to make sure everything's okay over here,” Red Hood said. His voice was distorted slightly by the mask, and what Marinette thought must be a voice modulator, but she could hear Jason in it. “There are safer places to get cuddly.”

“There are also less safe places,” Marinette retorted, unamused. She was offended at what he was insinuating, especially now that she knew who he was. He knew that she was - something - with his brother, did he really think so little of her? “Adrien is here comforting me because of boy troubles, and we like high places. Perhaps you should mind your own business and go find actual crime to fight.”

“Forget it, Nette, let's head on in for the night. I think there's a tub of ice cream in your freezer, and I can get a movie on.” Adrien led her past Red Hood and back down the fire escape, into her room. She gave Red Hood a wounded look as she passed, sure that he would know what she knew, as he had shown up specifically to interrupt them. “Still have no sense of self-preservation, huh m’lady?”

“That's not- he's- I'm going through something, Kitty, can't you give me a break?” She whined, slumping onto the sofa as he chuckled. “Besides, he was being rude, insinuating more than what he saw. You know I hate that.”

“He only said cuddly, Mari, and we were cuddling. I get it, you're sensitive because your boyfriend is being a jerk, but please don't get yourself shot by a vigilante because you're annoyed.”

Marinette couldn't say anything to that, so only pouted and changed the subject. Now that her anger was fading, her heart ached and she wondered what Jason would say to Damian. She hated feeling defensive about what was happening - they hadn't declared themselves boyfriend or girlfriend, hell, Damian had straight up ignored her texts since Thursday - but she didn't want him to think that her feelings were swaying. She was angry, but only because she missed him, and wanted to set things straight.

So she quieted down, allowing Adrien to fuss around her before they settled down to watch a film together.

_ _ _

Damian was lying on Todd's sofa for the third time in just over a week, staring blankly at the ceiling. He hadn't planned to be there, but after he had spotted Marinette and her…friend…sitting closely in their spot, he had run. He hadn't gotten close enough to hear their conversation, but they had looked comfortable together.

He was beginning to feel cowardly, running away from her all the time, but he didn't know what to say to her. He had assumed she would be alone tonight, but Agreste had invaded her home. And she had let him, which hurt Damian more than he cared to admit. Was she now secluded in her apartment with him, engaging in ‘other activities’? Or were they cuddled on the sofa, which somehow seemed worse to him.

He was still lying there when Todd re-entered his home. He heard him sigh, before approaching. “Buddy, you've gotta talk to her. She's hurting, and people who are hurting tend to make dumb choices, and she would be well within her rights to make them. You said you hadn't defined the relationship, right? Which means she's a free agent, and you're gonna miss your shot.”

“You cannot tell me she is not already making a choice,” Damian said, slightly unevenly. “I saw her with him, they are together now, I would wager. It appears as though I have already missed it.”

“Aw, don't be like that, D, she's not that kind of girl. She's plenty mad at you, and maybe knows my identity and is mad at me too, but she wouldn't hook up with her ex just because he turned up. Give her a chance.”

“Todd, I…do not know how to do this. I am worried that she will view me differently, and I am not prepared for it. As you said before, they have a shared history and he is clearly in love with her. It is probable that she returns those feelings, therefore I should step away.”

“Except you need to make sure she isn't running around telling everyone our business,” Todd snapped, losing his patience. He grabbed the front of Damian's suit, yanking him upright. “I didn't think you were a coward, Demon Spawn. You have a shot at being actually happy, and that scares you. So what you need to do is get a grip and talk to her. What exactly is holding you back?”

“She will not accept my past, Todd!” Damian was shouting, anger blazing through him. “She is a wonderful, thoughtful, incredible woman, there is nothing I can offer her that mitigates my previous life. Even if she was a hero, even if she was happy with my secret life, she would not accept the blood on my hands. I researched the Parisian team, they were virtuous and ensured that the city was saved. I am nothing compared to that.”

“Jesus, is that what this is about?” Todd lowered him back onto the sofa with a thump. Todd groaned and dropped down next to him, rubbing a hand across his face. “Damian, you don't know that she won't accept you. Shit, Adrien's the son of a supervillain, if she dated him, you have every chance of her caring about you, regardless. Just, please, talk to her. Figure this out.”

Damian sat, dumbfounded, as Todd left to get some sleep. It was 2am, Damian was not going to get enough sleep regardless…perhaps he could swing by Marinette's again on his way back to the batcave. Before he could change his mind, he pulled his mask and hood back on, launching out of the window.

He dropped onto her rooftop, allowing his feet to scuff the tarmac. He waited and then heard the telltale sound of a window easing open. Gentle feet on the fire escape. And then she was clambering onto the rooftop, stopping when she spotted him. His eyes were riveted to her face, searching for a sign that she was angry, that he was too late to salvage their relationship.

Marinette had been awake, sketching in her room when she had heard feet touch down on her roof. She hadn't hesitated, practically scrambling through the window and launching herself onto the roof. She immediately saw him, and she stopped, unsure whether she was allowed to get closer to him.

They stood there, staring uncertainly at each other. A sudden wind made her shiver slightly, wrapping her arms around her waist. Instantly, Damian had closed the gap between them, his hands cupping her elbows, shielding her from the wind.

“Why are you here?” She whispered, longing to remove his mask so that she could look into his eyes. Her hands rested lightly on his biceps, not daring to move any further. “I thought…weren't you angry with me? I swear, I didn't mean to work it out, I just- we've spent so much time together up here and- you look the same, I'm sorry, I want-”

“Shhhh, breathe, Marinette,” Damian said, and she could hear his low voice, the one that made her wind tight, and relax all at once. She stopped talking immediately, eyes wide, but unwavering. His grip on her tightened briefly, before he pulled her against him. She buried herself in his arms and tears spilled over, her sobs shaking her small frame. “I am sorry, I did not mean to hurt you. I did not know what to do, and I was…scared. Please, forgive me.”

Marinette merely sobbed harder, pressing tight against him. He kissed the top of her head, rubbing her arms. They stayed like that for several minutes, until her tears subsided. “I’m sorry, I shouldn't have freaked out like that. I haven't been sleeping very well.”

“You should go inside, Marinette. I wanted to make sure you were alright and apologise, but it is cold and you are tired. I promise, we can talk more tomorrow, and we- is that my shirt?”

“Um, yes?” She blushed, pulling at the hem of it. She had been wearing it every night, and when she had left Adrien snoring on the sofa, she had immediately crawled back into it. “I'll get it cleaned and back to you, it's just, you left it here and I-”

“Tt, it is fine. It looks…good on you,” he said, his voice dropping low as he leaned down towards her. She shivered again, although not from the cold this time. She felt a familiar heat burn deep within her belly, and she turned her lips towards his. He groaned and closed the remaining distance, making her knees buckle. 

It ended too soon, Marinette breathing hard and Damian sounding slightly unsteady. He was murmuring into her hair now, hands firmly on her waist. She swallowed, eyes closing in relief. “Will you come inside? Just- just for a few minutes?”

He nodded, following her to the fire escape and down to her window. She tugged the blind closed behind them, pulling his mask off as soon as he sat down on her bed. She stayed close to him, staring into his eyes. He stripped the kevlar reinforced suit top off, leaving only a thin T-shirt underneath.

Crawling into his lap, she laid her head on his chest, comforting herself with the sound of his heartbeat. He murmured to her in that language she didn't recognise, but thought might be Arabic, and she felt calmer. His arms tightened and she looked up at him, their noses brushing before she kissed him. 

They sat like that for an indeterminable amount of time, taking comfort in each other. When she thought she would explode from the sheer amount of feeling coursing through her, he maneuvered her onto the bed, kissing her harder. Her hands slid under his thin shirt, tracing his muscles and scars.

“Marinette,” he said, practically sighing her name as she explored. They broke apart eventually and she looked up at him, lips swollen and bruised. He looked down at her and she saw him swallow, before rolling carefully sideways to lie next to her. “I am sorry for running away from you. I feel so much for you, I do not want to lose you, and when you told me that- that you knew, I was terrified that I would. And so I distanced myself, pretending that I was being cautious. I hurt you, and that is unforgivable but I hope you will anyway.”

“Damian, I know you don't believe me but I do understand. I should have approached it differently, but I was so worried about you thinking I was keeping secrets that I rushed. I feel so much for you too, I want this to work and that means I'm going to make mistakes. Just- please don't shut me out. Tell me you need space, tell me you want to think about things but, please, don't just leave me to wonder.”

“I promise.” He said it like a vow, his hand resting on her hip. “Go to sleep, Marinette, I will stay until you do. And perhaps we can have lunch together tomorrow?” He began to hum tunelessly, stroking down her side as her eyes fluttered closed. 

When he was sure she was asleep, he slipped back into his suit. He kissed her gently on the forehead and stepped lightly out of her window. She stirred briefly, but he closed the window quietly, watching her for a few minutes before leaving.

[generalluxun]

Ya know, something that I think makes the Bee Miraculous situation feel kind of extra messy is that even after resolving not to use Chloe, Marinette still would if she deemed it necessary.

That is to say, she'd not only long since resolved not to let Chloe be Queen Bee again in Miraculer, but had that very episode committed to telling her that fact.

Yet when push came to shove she was still fine shoving a Miraculous in her hand, or having Chat do it, and sending her after Mayura, but then telling her she can't be Queen Bee.

This is also right after its been made clear that even after seemingly a couple of months of no use, Chloe was still being watched and actively targeted.

I'm not blaming Marinette for screwing up, but it very much does play into how unfair the situation feels I think.

Oh yeah l the narrative was a mess. It's part of the whole 'episodic' nature, but also their reaction to it.

Many episodic shows commit to the bit but also pay attention to the overarching narrative while writing the episodes. So rewatches or binges can still get a healthy story unfolding.

ML doesn't really respect the narrative on an episodic basis. It will twist whatever for an episode, and we're just supposed to parse the latest version as 'correct'. All previous moments are null unless specifically addressed and only in the episode they are addressed.

It's.... A choice

[flightlessribbons]

BEFORE CANON:

ML INHERITANCE AU: PT.1

In this AU, I really wanted to go for the world and vibes that were built in season 1-2, the concept art, and the ladybug PV, as well as the setting being changed to the early 2000s. Having Marinette’s life seem like a happy fashion game of the 2000s with a superhero secret was just such a fun concept to explore!

And all references for the concept art is from the artbook wiki*, so big thank you to all that have contributed to that archive!

Miraculous are handed down from the holder to a trusted next instead of a guardian. Kwamis are called faeries, and were created as the embodiments of emotions and ideals that have worked alongside humans for ages. Fae in the past have never been bound to a certain accessory to transform. If the humans had bonded with a faerie, they would just utilize any jewelry on their holder as a miraculous.

There’s different kinds of fae that have existed in the world, but the ones in the story are listed below.

The Ladybug fae represent luck and creation

The Black Cat fae represent destruction and rebirth

The Bee fae represent justice

The Fox fae represent truth

The Turtle fae represent wisdom

The Butterfly fae represent communication

There are multiple fae of a kind (so multiple ladybugs and black cats have existed in the past in different regions, and it is entirely possible for past ladybugs to have existed in the same time in different places for this reason) and used to be plentiful, but the number of fae have decreased dramatically because of the faerie Null.

There is only one faerie of Null, and he was an anomaly amongst the fae. He had no powers himself, but he had the ability to absorb other faeries and steal their energy and powers, becoming stronger himself this way. He seeks to destroy the rest of the fae; wishing to see humans lose sight of the ideals and emotions they stand for- ultimately losing themselves and becoming their own undoing and leading to their demise. Their destruction would lead to Null’s ideal empty world.

Over the centuries, Null had instigated problems to prompt out fae and their holders. After drawing them out and defeating them, he would steal their powers. Null also has the ability to share these powers he’s accumulated but has lacked control with this skill; causing him to scarcely use it in the past.

In a battle centuries ago, Tikki, Plagg, Trixx, Wayzz, Pollen, and Nooroo had faced Null. Null’s final attack had bound the six to the jewelry they were in, forcing them to stay close to the miraculous and limiting the amount of power their holders had access to.

Null was nowhere to be found after his final attack, and the now confined faeries entrusted their new miraculous to the holders while they slept inside of them to regain their strength.

Next: SABINE: MINI MENACE ERA