#npd abuse isn't real

[s1llybug-old]

been seeing some actual buffoons recently and im here to remind anyone who wholeheartedly believes in "narcissist abuse" and isn't willing to change — go fuck yourself! and shut the fuck up while you're at it! we don't want to hear your abuse stories if you use them to target cluster b people and demonize them! we don't want your intolerance wrapped in a foil of fake-ass positivity and wisdom! we don't want you to bring up your 'right' trauma if it means ours will be deemed evil! we don't want you to make a scapegoat out of us! go away and leave us alone!

[solitaryschizoid]

neurotypicals will be like "you can't self diagnose" and then diagnose everyone they dislike as a narcissist

[yippeeimmentallyill]

How narc abuse believers sound to me

[autopsyfreak]

how ‘mental health advocates’ look at me when i tell them my disorder makes me unable to care about other people’s feelings.

[carnage-cathedral]

>"cluster b demonization isn't real! you're just making that up because you're attention seeking and wanna be a victim!!!"

>open internet browser

>"how to defeat narcissists" article is on the front page in the health tab

[livingfictionsystem]

-Xanthe 🪶

[cupboard-of-npd]

Hi hello narcissists and friends, Ive just discovered june 1st is 'World narcissistic abuse awareness day' I propose we be horribly horribly annoying on this day and make it to spread awareness on how narcissistic abuse isnt real

I think we can ruin an ableists day if we try hard enough whos with me

[cruelbrutality]

I have no empathy, remorse, guilt or compassion.

That is how I experience things, as a result of my personality disorders.

If you are going to support personality disorders then you also must include people with these symptoms as well and not just the glorified version the media attempts to convey.

[chimeraaas]

“empaths” are THE stupidest fucks on the planet. not to mention the ableism lol

[traumagenic-positivity]

i love you systems :>

i love you npd systems

i love you bpd systems

i love you aspd systems

i love you ocd systems

i love you npd systems who participate in syscourse just for supply

i love you systems who don't interact with other systems at all

i love you symptom holders

i love you overworked hosts

i love you overwhelmed protectors

i love you systems who let themselves feel happy about being a system

i love you systems who think being a system is miserable

i love you systems

i love you systems

[nuttylittlefruitcake]

The Narcissistic Abuse Believer To New Age/Alt-Right Conspiracy Theorist Pipeline

Let’s say that you are an abuse survivor. Let’s say that you had an abusive parent and/or ex. Let’s say you’re looking for support for abuse survivors, and a lot of the things you’re finding reference the concept of narcissistic abuse. You read more on the topic and begin to identify with a lot of what narcissistic abuse is supposed to be. You think to yourself “yes! this is exactly what I went through!” You research more about narcissists, how to spot them, what makes them tick, all the ways in which they would use and abuse you. You may not even know that NPD is a real disorder. You may not realize that narcissists are, more often than not, survivors of abuse just like you. Maybe you’re just genuinely misinformed. Maybe you just don’t care. A lot of people are here on the pipeline. Granted, this is not a good place to be (nowhere on the pipeline is) as it’s still incredibly harmful to pwNPD, but this is only the beginning.

Enter the Empath. The empath is allegedly a figure who experiences great empathy and compassion and, in turn, seeks to help others. They are generally portrayed as a kind and loving figure. Likewise, the Narcissist is the opposite. They’re evil manipulative abusers who only seek out vulnerable people to hurt, while not caring about the needs or feelings of others. You’ve been doing research for a while, and so you obviously know about the Empath. Let’s say you’ve internalized this idea that the Empath and the Narcissist are juxtaposed figures. Now, let’s take it a step further and say you’ve begun to believe that they have supernatural powers and that they use these powers for good/evil depending on their alignment. Let’s even say that you believe there’s a war going on between the two, that the empaths have to stop the narcissists from enacting their evil onto the world.

Supernatural powers like:

One very important thing we need to understand is that in New Age belief, The Empath and The Narcissist are two very particular figures that play a role in the belief system. To them, it’s not a disorder, it’s something else entirely. You might have noticed that the way some people talk about narcissists is wrapped up in spiritual, new agey language. Many years ago, I came across a YouTube channel that, in hindsight, was very new agey and ableist. I go back to that channel and what is the second video I see?

And if we go down a little further?

Spiritual language. Comparing us to demons, claiming we’re here to sabotage people on their (likely spiritual) paths. That is what a narcissist is in New Age belief. Empaths are here to do good and narcissists are here to do evil.

Now here’s where we get to the good part. If you reject the inherent truth that anyone has the capability of choosing to be a good or bad person, and instead believe that there’s a group of people sent here to do good and a group of people sent here to do evil, then I honestly don’t believe you’re too far off from believing in Starseeds vs Reptillians.

Starseeds are a concept founded in fascism, antisemitism, and white supremacy. It is believed that there is an ongoing spiritual war between the starseeds and the Reptillians, a group said to have been secretly running various organizations on Earth for thousands of years (sound familiar?) The starseeds want to help the Earth ascend to a new age, 5D, the Age of Aquarius, whatever you want to call it, while the Reptillians essentially want to keep that from happening. Honestly, just replace empaths with starseeds and narcissists with Reptillians and it’s pretty much the exact same thing. To New Agers, there’s practically no difference. And once you’ve made it to New Age territory, you might as well be knocking on the alt-right’s door.

There’s so much more about starseeds and Reptillians, and honestly New Age in general, that I just can’t fit into this post, but if you want to learn more, creature-wizard is a good blog with a lot of resources on the subject. I understand that it’s fun to joke about the ridiculous things people say about us (demons and such) but it’s also important to recognize how deeply dangerous narcissistic abuse rhetoric is, and that it leads to nowhere good for anyone. New Age ideology has always been ableist and eugenicist, and it’s been talked about how “starseed signs” are just autistic/ADHD traits, but I feel like the anti narc ableism also needs to be acknowledged. I’ll leave off with this:

If you genuinely believe in narcissistic abuse, then you are on this pipeline. Think long and hard about whether or not this is really where you want to be

[narcfyodor]

The struggle of giving real compliments as pwNPD and ASPD traits is so real. I don't give honest compliments often but when I do they sound so condescending and people misunderstand. Or it sounds really simple for a person without npd/aspd.

We really need to talk about how pwNPD and pwASPD express affection and care. It can seem so simple and not recognizing/not thanking them properly can genuinely destroy the relationship.

To you it may only be a simple "Yes you can stay with me even tho I'm slow on social battery" or "Yes you can give me advice on how to do something" but to narcissists and sociopaths is something SO big. It's literally going against the defense mechanisms the brain has set up to prevent re-traumatization. It's opening up to someone, something both people with ASPD and NPD are incredibly scared to do.

[autopsyfreak]

tired of people on tiktok acting like BPD and HPD are the ‘good cluster b disorders’ or the ‘victim cluster b’s’ meanwhile NPD and ASPD are the ‘evil mean abusive cluster b’s’

stfu.

we’re in the same cluster for a reason, you can’t support some whilst demonising the others.

[beetlepilled]

tbh, as a narcissistic i actually think it's really funny those "narc abuse" posts, like:

• tools and tactics to destroy a narcissistic's ego!

• what you need to know about narcissists!

• how to survive a narcissistic abuse!

it sounds like im a kind of nonhuman superior creature, like wym you think im sooo scary that you need to learn tools of how to destroy me? *twirls my hair and giggles and blushes and kick my feet*

[aura-bug]

barely even had to scroll down for this one lol

anyways daily reminder that pleasing a narcissist is NOT thankless. it is very very very much appreciated and basically needed for us to survive, so if you have friends with NPD make sure to tell them they’re doing a good job <33

[robotenthused]

People trying to act like NPD and BPD are mutually exclusive or opposites or whatever are so odd because you realize how much overlap they have right??? They’re in the same cluster. They are extremely similar and often comorbid. One is not good while the other is bad they are both completely morally neutral. Like I’m NPD with BPD traits. Stop acting like BPD and NPD are sworn enemies or whatever. It’s fucking weird.